Re: PEC training
Autoguiding was worse.
There are so many variables with autoguiding that it's hard to tell what is going wrong, at least to me. So last night I was primarily interested in capturing SII data to
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Jamie Amendolagine
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#69202
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Re: [Losmandy_usekrs_io] PEC training
Hi Aubrey
based on that information here's some details for you:
your image scale for your guidescope is 4.00"/pix or 4 arcseconds per
pixel.
your image scale for your imaging setup is 0.47"/pix or
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Brian Valente
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#69201
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Re: [Losmandy_usekrs_io] PEC training
OK here we go.
Guider: SX Super star guider on 60mm guiding telescope F/4
Pixel 4.65x4.65 1392x1004 V
Main camera: SX Trius Pro 814
3.7 x 3.7 3388 x 2712
Telescope AT 10¡± RC
2000 mm FL
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Aubrey Brickhouse
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#69200
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Re: PEC training
Hi Jamie,
By "worse", what do mean?
1. Autoguiding appeared worse with PEC enabled?
2. Or the measured periodic error with PEC enabled was greater than disabled?
3. Something else?
-Ray
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Ray Gralak
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#69199
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Re: PEC training
I followed the recommended PemPro PEC programming method, and so far have found it to make things worse. I'm assuming that it's operator error, me being the operator. I expect that it will improve
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Jamie Amendolagine
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#69198
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Re: PEC training
Hi Arun
yes, you and I are on the same page.
Having done a lot of PHD support over the years, there are many people who
only relate to what they see in PHD graphs and statistics, without knowing
how
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Brian Valente
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#69197
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Re: PEC training
Hi Brian,
I was referring to the main image scale, not the guiding image scale. Yes, that is why I pay attention to the arc second number in PHD2, since it the more meaningful number in translating
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Arun Hegde <arun.k.hegde@...>
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#69196
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Re: PEC training
whether one is greater than the other would not matter; you'd get round
stars because your pixels would be too large to resolve the difference.
yes i generally agree, but i often see things at or
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Brian Valente
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#69195
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Re: PEC training
Hi Aubrey
Aurun pretty much nailed the answer.
the relationship depends on the image scale from your guiding setup and the
image scale on your imaging setup
if you can supply this info i can give
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Brian Valente
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#69194
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Re: PEC training
Very good Arun, I have never heard that before. So if you move from an STT 8300 with the Kodak Chip 5.6 Pixels to a Starlight Express 814 with 3.6 pixels, on an 2000 mm f/9 scope what effect would you
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Aubrey Brickhouse
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#69193
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Re: PEC training
RMS stands for Root Mean Square. It is a measure of, on average, how large the deviations are from the baseline. An RMS value of zero means a perfectly flat graph.
In the context of autoguiding, we
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Arun Hegde <arun.k.hegde@...>
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#69192
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Re: PEC training
Hi I am interested in this discussion. Can someone explain the statements that the closer RA and Dec are in RMS the more round the star. What is the underlying explanation.
Thanks.
Aubrey
Sent from
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Aubrey Brickhouse
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#69191
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Re: PEC training
"Eccentricity (star roundness) really depends on how close RA and DEC RMS are, not necessarily how high is your RMS
low RMS = small stars
RA and DEC RMS close in value = round stars"
True - but I'd
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Arun Hegde <arun.k.hegde@...>
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#69190
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Re: ASI120mini question
As others have suggested, take the guide camera out of the guider (but first use a parafocal ring on it so you don't loose focus)? and insert an eyepiece. Place a bright obvious star in the center of
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Mark Christensen
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#69189
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Re: ASI120mini question
course of a night on one target, the guide scope will stay on a star, but
your image frames will start to travel around it in a small circle.
you won't get cone error from misalignment of your
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Brian Valente
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#69188
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Re: ASI120mini question
If you want to line both scopes up, point your main scope at a bright star and center it up in your camera. Take the auto guider camera out of your guide scope and stick an eyepiece in the guide
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Ralph Encarnacion
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#69187
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Re: PEC training
Guys,
After a night of reflection I realized that since the orientation of my oval stars was not coincident with RA or DEC, it is likely it was not caused by a guiding issue. So this morning I had a
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Paul Goelz
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#69186
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Re: multi-star PHD2!
I was out again tonight and I've come to the conclusion that multistar is a big improvement to guiding. I was getting solid sustained 0.6 rms range of guiding tonight. Previously I was getting around
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Jamie Amendolagine
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#69185
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Re: PEC training
OK, I have uploaded the log from this session.
https://openphdguiding.org/logs/dl/PHD2_logs_xDGZ.zip
You should see a couple short guiding runs as I played around with it before starting an imaging
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Paul Goelz
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#69184
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Re: ASI120mini question
Tony,
Like everyone has said, the imaging and guide scopes do not have to be perfectly aligned, but they should be pretty close. I use the crosshairs in both PHD2 and Sequence Generator to get as
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John Kmetz
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#69183
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