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Re: G11 survival kit

 

Deric,

If you're going to be travelling to remote sites and are worried about damage to your mount, I would carry one or two spare motors, one or two spare gear boxes, and a few of the #6-32 x 3/4" (or 1") set screws which secure the gear boxes to the mount's "frame".? Those are the only parts I've ever had get damaged on my Losmandy mounts.? Damage occurred either because I stupidly carried the mount on the back seat of my car rather than the floor (didn't do that twice), or I bumped into my mount at some point.

As others have said, a good set of Allen wrenches is almost the only tool you need to repair the mount in the field.


Re: Guiding - Even Derek can Do It

 

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Yes, my mount is out in the front yard and I live 5 miles outside of town on a dead end dirt road so I don¡¯t see people unless they are lost.. It¡¯s very simple to power up, grab multiple videos of multiple planets, and cover it back up in an hour.. This is why I want to try and ¡°do more¡±, because it should be equally easy to finish with the planets for the night and move the scope to a DSO and gather subs for an hour or six.. I have been trying to learn and do what little testing I can in the rare bits of nice weather so I will be more readier for the fine California weather in the middle of the year..

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I can¡¯t (yet) imagine how much ¡°Fun!¡± it would be to haul everything somewhere and image.. I will find out someday though..

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Now I am trying to figure out a ¡°simpleish¡± way to determine camera settings for an object that don¡¯t take forever.. These were easy to figure out when imaging at 100 frames per second.. They are rather time consuming at even 1 minute exposures.. But I have a few months, at least, before I will be able to be productive almost daily.. I need to find someone who images with a Sony 178 chip, and few do..

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HOWEVER.. The SAME DAY I had round stars in 5 minutes, we learned someone is interested in buying the property we live on and wants to pave our dirt road, which would put a strip of asphalt 20 feet to the west of my scope and completely ruin all my Astronomy.. We will have to move.. Talk about a crushing blow.. Hasn¡¯t happened yet, but it is likely to..

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Such is my life, though things always work out for me in the long run..

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Derek

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Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Guiding - Even Derek can Do It

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That's great Derek!
You're on your way to more and more amazing Astronomy now.
It's all baby steps.
When I was at your point, I found a spot where I could keep my mount set up. That way it stayed polar aligned (better anyway), and made start up much easier.

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Re: Losmandy G11G and Gemini2 with SGP

 

So I just recently got this working with SGP and while not entirely sure how, I will tell you what I know. My issue was due to SGP and the way the limits were set up in the ASCOM / Gemini 2. Specifically the way the western goto limit affects when Gemini thinks it should switch sides of the pier and when you have SGP setup to switch. Basically what I did because I couldn't seem to wrap my head around what all was going on was, I adjusted the western goto limit to offset the western position safety limit so that Gemini, ASCOM, and SGP all thought the flip should happen AT THE MERIDIAN (not 7.5 degrees past the meridian or whatever your western safety limit is minus the goto limit). This simplified things so all pieces of software were talking the same time. I think this catches a lot of people because SGP is trying to do a flip at the meridian, but Gemini knows it can go further and so it won't go to the other side of the pier until it needs to. I'm probably not explaining this correctly but read this link and pay attention to the "Western GoTo Limit" section as this is affecting when Gemini does a flip.?
Also make sure the ASCOM driver is ticked to report what side of the pier it is on (Report pier Side) as others have stated in other threads.??

Les


Re: Losmandy G11G and Gemini2 with SGP

 

There is definitely a lot of weirdness that happens in there. I wish i could offer more precise feedback, but it may be in the category?of "if it doesn't work after doing X, then don't do X" kind of advice


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 5:27 PM Fritz <fritzlaun1@...> wrote:

I should also add that after unparking the telescope the ¡°time to pier flip¡± in SGP switched to NA. Before it was accurate.?


If I was to do a cold start on the mount and not make a model on the HC the ¡°time to pier flip¡± would should the right time but the mount won¡¯t perform a meridian flip.?



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Re: Losmandy G11G and Gemini2 with SGP

 

Hi Fritz

instead of pasting the log, can you please attach both the SGP and the ascom log, and if you can roughly indicate at what time these events occurred?that would?be great.

I will forewarn?you that the meridian flip is still something of a mystery to me, and i'm pretty sure everyone else.?

It partly depends on your mount settings for limits, as well as your western goto limit. and then of course there is the SGP settings for how far past the meridian you want it to go before executing a flip. The ascom and sgp logs should tell more of the story there

and it depends on how you are trying?to flip: manually vs. tracking to a certain point past the meridian

Brian

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 5:08 PM Fritz <fritzlaun1@...> wrote:

Hey Brian,

See below for a complete log I just created. This log consists of having already done a cold start on the mount, doing a model through the hand controller with one star on East and west (but not actually centered).

At that point SGP is connected to the telescope and I slew the telescope so it requires a meridian flip. I run meridian flip and it performs just fine. I then park the telescope and it parks just fine. I then unpark the telescope and put it in the same position as before so that it requires a meridian flip. The telescope does not slew, times out, and I finally abort the process. I think I¡¯m about to lose my mind ?

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[01/07/20 18:33:12.019][DEBUG][Main Thread][NONE] **** END SEQUENCE DUMP ****

[01/07/20 18:33:32.043][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] Telescope Dispatch loop: Received SGM_TELESCOPE_CONNECT...

[01/07/20 18:33:32.106][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] Telescope can slewing supported...

[01/07/20 18:33:32.160][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] Telescope: Implements MoveAxis...

[01/07/20 18:33:32.178][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] RA Move Rate Range: Min->3.34245969783283 Max->3.34245969783283

[01/07/20 18:33:32.179][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] RA Move Rate Range: Min->0.0835614924458207 Max->0.0835614924458207

[01/07/20 18:33:32.180][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] RA Move Rate Range: Min->0.00208903731114552 Max->0.00208903731114552

[01/07/20 18:33:32.184][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] DEC Move Rate Range: Min->3.34245969783283 Max->3.34245969783283

[01/07/20 18:33:32.185][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] DEC Move Rate Range: Min->0.0835614924458207 Max->0.0835614924458207

[01/07/20 18:33:32.186][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] DEC Move Rate Range: Min->0.00208903731114552 Max->0.00208903731114552

[01/07/20 18:33:32.196][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] Telescope: CanSetSideOfPier returned True

[01/07/20 18:33:32.197][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] Telescope: CanPark returned True

[01/07/20 18:33:32.201][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] Telescope equatorial system is JNOW...

[01/07/20 18:33:32.202][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] SGM_TELESCOPE_CONNECT complete...

[01/07/20 18:33:32.202][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] Telescope thread is IDLE...

[01/07/20 18:33:32.272][INFO][Main Thread][NONE] Telescope: Setting sync behavior to: Sync

[01/07/20 18:34:38.519][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Starting Meridian Flip Procedure

[01/07/20 18:34:38.523][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Skipping Solve

[01/07/20 18:34:38.525][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Stopping the Auto Guider

[01/07/20 18:34:38.527][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Sending Telescope command to execute meridian flip

[01/07/20 18:34:38.550][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: Pier side is West

[01/07/20 18:34:38.550][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: attempting pier flip using sideOfPier

[01/07/20 18:34:38.634][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] Setting Pier East

[01/07/20 18:34:48.269][DEBUG][Main Thread][MF;] PopulateDataModel: ?Transferring view to the data model...

[01/07/20 18:34:48.314][DEBUG][MF Update Thread][MF;] Performing serialize...

[01/07/20 18:35:42.079][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: Waiting until pier side changes...

[01/07/20 18:35:43.085][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: Side of pier changed, waiting for scope to report it's done slewing...

[01/07/20 18:35:43.197][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: Scope to reports it's done slewing...

[01/07/20 18:35:43.197][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: Settling scope 30 seconds...

[01/07/20 18:36:13.204][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: Pier side is East

[01/07/20 18:36:16.713][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] Telescope thread is IDLE...

[01/07/20 18:36:16.742][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Telescope command to meridian flip has completed

[01/07/20 18:36:16.750][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Telescope has performed meridian flip

[01/07/20 18:36:16.750][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Flipping Auto Guider calibration data

[01/07/20 18:36:16.754][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2 Not connected!? Attempting to reconnect.

[01/07/20 18:36:16.761][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Connecting to PHD2...

[01/07/20 18:36:16.763][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Waiting for socket connection to PHD2...

[01/07/20 18:36:16.776][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][MF;] Attempting to connect to PHD2...

[01/07/20 18:36:17.764][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Successfully connected to PHD2...

[01/07/20 18:36:17.766][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:36:17.766][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:36:17.867][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:36:17.878][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2: PHD2 is already open...

[01/07/20 18:36:17.878][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_profiles", "id": 1009}

?

[01/07/20 18:36:18.379][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "flip_calibration", "id": 1005}

?

[01/07/20 18:36:18.480][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][MF;] Error received from RPC: could not flip calibration

[01/07/20 18:37:18.498][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][MF;] PHD2 - No messages received from PHD2 for 1 minute, checking socket with status...

[01/07/20 18:37:18.499][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][MF;] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:37:18.499][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][MF;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:37:18.499][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][MF;] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:37:18.499][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][MF;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:37:19.418][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Autoguider (PHD2) failed to flip calibration data!

[01/07/20 18:37:19.423][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Skipping auto center

[01/07/20 18:37:19.425][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Auto guider resuming

[01/07/20 18:37:19.429][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2: Auto Resume

[01/07/20 18:37:19.438][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2: PHD2 is already open...

[01/07/20 18:37:19.439][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Sending to PHD2:

{"method":"get_connected","id":1011}

?

[01/07/20 18:37:19.545][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2: PHD2 is already open...

[01/07/20 18:37:19.545][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2: Failed to connect equipment, invalid profile!

[01/07/20 18:37:19.548][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2: PHD2 is already open...

[01/07/20 18:37:19.549][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Sending to PHD2:

{"method":"get_connected","id":1011}

?

[01/07/20 18:37:19.650][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2: Cannot start guiding, PHD2 says equipment is not connected...

[01/07/20 18:37:19.650][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Auto guider resuming has completed

[01/07/20 18:37:27.749][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][NONE] Meridian Flip: Procedure complete

[01/07/20 18:37:42.949][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] SGM_TELESCOPE_PARK message received...

[01/07/20 18:37:42.950][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][PK;] ASCOM Telescope: Park message received.

[01/07/20 18:37:42.965][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][PK;] ASCOM Telescope: Sending park...

[01/07/20 18:38:19.645][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][PK;] PHD2 - No messages received from PHD2 for 1 minute, checking socket with status...

[01/07/20 18:38:19.645][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][PK;] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:38:19.645][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][PK;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:38:19.645][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][PK;] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:38:19.645][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][PK;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:38:21.871][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][PK;] ASCOM Telescope: Parked

[01/07/20 18:38:21.872][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][PK;] Attempting to stop PHD2 guiding...

[01/07/20 18:38:21.872][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][PK;] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:38:21.872][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][PK;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:38:21.872][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][PK;] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:38:21.974][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][PK;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:38:21.974][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][PK;] PHD2 Guider is already stopped.

[01/07/20 18:38:21.974][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][PK;] Autoguider (PHD2) stopped Successfully

[01/07/20 18:38:21.974][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] SGM_TELESCOPE_PARK message complete...

[01/07/20 18:38:21.974][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] Telescope thread is IDLE...

[01/07/20 18:38:32.168][DEBUG][Main Thread][NONE] ASCOM Telescope: Unpark message received.

[01/07/20 18:38:32.183][DEBUG][Main Thread][NONE] ASCOM Telescope: Start tracking

[01/07/20 18:39:21.950][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 - No messages received from PHD2 for 1 minute, checking socket with status...

[01/07/20 18:39:21.950][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:39:21.950][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:39:21.950][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:39:21.950][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:39:22.615][DEBUG][Main Thread][NONE] PopulateDataModel: ?Transferring view to the data model...

[01/07/20 18:39:22.675][DEBUG][MF Update Thread][NONE] Performing serialize...

[01/07/20 18:39:23.393][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Starting Meridian Flip Procedure

[01/07/20 18:39:23.394][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Skipping Solve

[01/07/20 18:39:23.399][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Stopping the Auto Guider

[01/07/20 18:39:23.399][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Attempting to stop PHD2 guiding...

[01/07/20 18:39:23.399][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:39:23.399][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:39:23.399][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:39:23.500][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:39:23.500][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2 Guider is already stopped.

[01/07/20 18:39:23.503][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Sending Telescope command to execute meridian flip

[01/07/20 18:39:23.530][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: Pier side is East

[01/07/20 18:39:23.530][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: attempting pier flip using sideOfPier

[01/07/20 18:39:23.593][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] Setting Pier West

[01/07/20 18:39:23.594][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: Waiting until pier side changes...

[01/07/20 18:39:48.862][DEBUG][Main Thread][MF;] Meridian flip was user aborted...

[01/07/20 18:39:49.157][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][NONE] Meridian Flip: Procedure complete

[01/07/20 18:40:23.511][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 - No messages received from PHD2 for 1 minute, checking socket with status...

[01/07/20 18:40:23.511][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:40:23.511][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:40:23.511][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:40:23.511][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:41:23.640][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 - No messages received from PHD2 for 1 minute, checking socket with status...

[01/07/20 18:41:23.640][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:41:23.640][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:41:23.640][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:41:23.640][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:42:23.790][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 - No messages received from PHD2 for 1 minute, checking socket with status...

[01/07/20 18:42:23.790][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:42:23.790][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:42:23.790][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:42:23.790][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:43:23.938][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 - No messages received from PHD2 for 1 minute, checking socket with status...

[01/07/20 18:43:23.938][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:43:23.938][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:43:23.938][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:43:23.938][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:44:24.011][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] ASCOM Telescope: Side of pier timeout!

[01/07/20 18:44:24.024][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] ASCOM Telescope: Pier side is East

[01/07/20 18:44:24.089][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 - No messages received from PHD2 for 1 minute, checking socket with status...

[01/07/20 18:44:24.089][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:44:24.089][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:44:24.089][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:44:24.089][DEBUG][PHD2 Listener Thread][NONE] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:44:24.534][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] ASCOM Telescope: Failed to flip because starting pier side and ending pier side are the same!

[01/07/20 18:44:27.536][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][NONE] Telescope thread is IDLE...

[01/07/20 18:44:50.854][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Starting Meridian Flip Procedure

[01/07/20 18:44:50.854][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Skipping Solve

[01/07/20 18:44:50.856][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Stopping the Auto Guider

[01/07/20 18:44:50.856][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Attempting to stop PHD2 guiding...

[01/07/20 18:44:50.856][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Checking PHD2 state...

[01/07/20 18:44:50.856][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped

[01/07/20 18:44:50.856][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Sending to PHD2:

{"method": "get_app_state", "id": 1001}

?

[01/07/20 18:44:50.957][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped

[01/07/20 18:44:50.957][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] PHD2 Guider is already stopped.

[01/07/20 18:44:50.959][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][MF;] Meridian Flip: Sending Telescope command to execute meridian flip

[01/07/20 18:44:50.987][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: Pier side is East

[01/07/20 18:44:50.987][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: attempting pier flip using sideOfPier

[01/07/20 18:44:51.050][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] Setting Pier West

[01/07/20 18:44:51.051][DEBUG][Telescope Thread][MF;] ASCOM Telescope: Waiting until pier side changes...

[01/07/20 18:45:50.829][DEBUG][Main Thread][MF;] Meridian flip was user aborted...

[01/07/20 18:45:50.891][DEBUG][Pier Flip Thread][NONE] Meridian Flip: Procedure complete



--
Brian?



Brian Valente
portfolio


Re: Screen calibration.

 

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Welcome to the Club, Try this. Go to YouTube Google " Resetting Gemini 2 back to factory specs."The video is short and to the point.



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-------- Original message --------
From: colonyroad1955@...
Date: 1/7/20 8:19 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Losmandy_users_io] Screen calibration.

Hello, just recieved a gm811g, Gemini 2 was working well, but I think I screwed up the screen calibration. When I power up, the screen goes directly to polar align assist, I tap Back, nothing happened, I tap Polar Algn Assist and the language changes to German. Can I simply get back to factory settings? I may be a chemist. But I am no geek. Thanx in advance, Dan


Re: Screen calibration.

 

You could watch this and see if it gets you there.
https://youtu.be/j8DVEvnlBYI


Screen calibration.

 

Hello, just recieved a gm811g, Gemini 2 was working well, but I think I screwed up the screen calibration. When I power up, the screen goes directly to polar align assist, I tap Back, nothing happened, I tap Polar Algn Assist and the language changes to German. Can I simply get back to factory settings? I may be a chemist. But I am no geek. Thanx in advance, Dan


Re: Losmandy G11G and Gemini2 with SGP

 

I should also add that after unparking the telescope the ¡°time to pier flip¡± in SGP switched to NA. Before it was accurate.?


If I was to do a cold start on the mount and not make a model on the HC the ¡°time to pier flip¡± would should the right time but the mount won¡¯t perform a meridian flip.?


Re: Thread pitch..

 

All right! Enjoy!


Re: Losmandy G11G and Gemini2 with SGP

 
Edited

Hey Brian,

See below for a complete log I just created. This log consists of having already done a cold start on the mount, doing a model through the hand controller with one star on East and west (but not actually centered).

At that point SGP is connected to the telescope and I slew the telescope so it requires a meridian flip. I run meridian flip and it performs just fine. I then park the telescope and it parks just fine. I then unpark the telescope and put it in the same position as before so that it requires a meridian flip. The telescope does not slew, times out, and I finally abort the process. I think I¡¯m about to lose my mind ?


Re: Guiding - Even Derek can Do It

 

That's great Derek!
You're on your way to more and more amazing Astronomy now.
It's all baby steps.
When I was at your point, I found a spot where I could keep my mount set up. That way it stayed polar aligned (better anyway), and made start up much easier.


Re: Guiding - Even Derek can Do It

 

Derek,

Great. There is nothing like a little success to keep you going.

Best Wishes,

Mark C.


Re: Guiding - Even Derek can Do It

 

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Derek, You are on to something good. Hope you can get to sleep tonight. The last time things were going good for me, before I knew it the Eastern sky was turning purple LOL...



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-------- Original message --------
From: Derek C Breit <breit_ideas@...>
Date: 1/6/20 9:31 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Losmandy_users_io] Guiding - Even Derek can Do It

Works Perfectly!

Stars are good in a FIVE MINUTE exposure..

Total RMS was 1.3 arcseconds..

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YEAH!..

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Derek


Guiding - Even Derek can Do It

 

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Works Perfectly!

Stars are good in a FIVE MINUTE exposure..

Total RMS was 1.3 arcseconds..

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YEAH!..

?

Derek


Re: Thread pitch..

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Derek, ENJOY, This is what is all about my friend.?



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-------- Original message --------
From: Derek C Breit <breit_ideas@...>
Date: 1/6/20 7:08 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Thread pitch..

It¡¯s perfect here for tonight, as the wind has died.. It¡¯ll be near freezing in the AM, but I will be asleep long before that..

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Scope is cooling as we speak.. We shall see how it goes.. :-))

?

Derek

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Deric Caselli
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 12:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Thread pitch..

?

Derek, you will get it all together, I have been following these threads because I know that my nights of trials and tribulations? will be here soon enough. I am going to start with a small fast APO and a modded DSLR Canon camera everyone says this is the best of routes to go and when you go bigger aperture the 80mm can move over to a guide scope. but one thing My backup plan is I can spend the night just viewing if al else fails. I've been Lucky down here in Florida, I've been able to get out five nights sense New Years eve.the last two nights have been crystal clear.? Clear Skies and no wind to you.

?

?

?

Sent from my Galaxy Tab A

?

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-------- Original message --------

From: Derek C Breit <breit_ideas@...>

Date: 1/6/20 11:47 AM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Thread pitch..

?

Hello Mark..

?

I have pretty much come to that conclusion, that it shouldn¡¯t be that hard.. One thing I am fearful of is that I am wrong and that all the people ¨C who actually have done guiding ¨C are right that the way I want to do it wont work..

??? Yeah, forget I ever mentioned barlowing the guidescope, I wont be doing that..

Many people use an ST80 as a guidescope, and I could use the one I have, but the NightHawk is vastly superior mechanically (much better focuser and can be locked), all connection toward the camera are either threaded or compression ring w/ multiple thumbscrews, and of course two rings hold the scope, and one ring is near the camera.. If any setup is adequately rigid, this one is.. If it is still not good enough, but I am confident it will be, I can go with the ST80 or with the little and very light 60mm f/4 guidescope I already have..

??? The real fear is that I have to switch to an OAG ¨C because I would have to replace the filter wheel and filters too, but I am trying to push that thought out of my head with exactly what you said.. ¡°It ain¡¯t that hard¡±.. If I ignore my (currently) excessive Dec Backlash / ignore guiding in Dec at all or just one direction, then it *will* be easy, as my RA guides easily and very well..

??? The bigger problem is the $%@^&*&# Weather.. Perfectly clear last night, but 30mph winds.. I swear the weather is messing with me now..

?

Derek


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Christensen
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 10:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Thread pitch..

?

Derek,

?

Your recent post suggested you have a fear of autoguiding. You shouldn¡¯t be afraid of it. Some try to image without guiding and almost make a fetish of it. I don¡¯t recommend you do that other than with short focal length imaging optics.

?

With a modest focal length like 1000 mm or less guiding is easy and doesn¡¯t require anything like a Barlow on the guider as you suggested you would need to do.

In fact, at 1000mm focal length for the imaging scope, a 300mm or less guider will be fine.

?

And the shorter guide scope focal length will make it easier to find guide stars.

?

Why can you get away with a guider with 1/3 to ? of the focal length of the imaging scope? Because autoguider cameras and software can detect errors of the order of 1/10th to ? pixel routinely.

?

Another very common mistake is to guide with an expensive, heavy, APO refractors, when a lighter weight (but still rigid) and shorter focal length instrument will work ¨C heavy expensive guidescopes are a waste of money and mass budget. But if it is what you have, and you can live with the weight, go ahead and use it. But you don¡¯t need to Barlow it.

?

People often assume that everything has to be absolutely optimal and perfect in this business. That¡¯s OK if you want to set yourself up for unhappiness, esp. since 2 arc second ?long term seeing is very common (which is why planetary imaging now uses video streams and software to pluck out the best frames). I have friends who remotely image from mountains and they cry if they don¡¯t get 1 arc second or better over 10s of minutes. We who live under the air-ocean rarely get to see that.

?

I got into this hobby when guiding meant the lucky astronomer had to glue their eyeball to a guide scope eyepiece and push buttons on a hand controller. And individual (film) exposures could be ? hour or more long. Try doing that on a cold winters night ¨C my jeans once froze to the ground while guiding near the zenith. Autoguiding makes that trivial and easy. And cheap compared to everything else.

?

My bottom line is that there is no reason not to guide for long exposures given the availability of guide cameras and free software. And it doesn¡¯t require a high-end computer to do it. In fact, the cheaper the better since laptops are generally not built to resist dew and frost ¨C taking a high-end MAC or PC into the field is not necessary or desirable. Put the laptop in a tub and put a silicon keyboard skin on it.

?

So don¡¯t be afraid of autoguiding. And like anything else, practice makes perfect.

?

Regards,

?

Mark Christensen

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Virus-free.


Re: Thread pitch..

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

It¡¯s perfect here for tonight, as the wind has died.. It¡¯ll be near freezing in the AM, but I will be asleep long before that..

?

Scope is cooling as we speak.. We shall see how it goes.. :-))

?

Derek

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Deric Caselli
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 12:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Thread pitch..

?

Derek, you will get it all together, I have been following these threads because I know that my nights of trials and tribulations? will be here soon enough. I am going to start with a small fast APO and a modded DSLR Canon camera everyone says this is the best of routes to go and when you go bigger aperture the 80mm can move over to a guide scope. but one thing My backup plan is I can spend the night just viewing if al else fails. I've been Lucky down here in Florida, I've been able to get out five nights sense New Years eve.the last two nights have been crystal clear.? Clear Skies and no wind to you.

?

?

?

Sent from my Galaxy Tab A

?

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Derek C Breit <breit_ideas@...>

Date: 1/6/20 11:47 AM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Thread pitch..

?

Hello Mark..

?

I have pretty much come to that conclusion, that it shouldn¡¯t be that hard.. One thing I am fearful of is that I am wrong and that all the people ¨C who actually have done guiding ¨C are right that the way I want to do it wont work..

??? Yeah, forget I ever mentioned barlowing the guidescope, I wont be doing that..

Many people use an ST80 as a guidescope, and I could use the one I have, but the NightHawk is vastly superior mechanically (much better focuser and can be locked), all connection toward the camera are either threaded or compression ring w/ multiple thumbscrews, and of course two rings hold the scope, and one ring is near the camera.. If any setup is adequately rigid, this one is.. If it is still not good enough, but I am confident it will be, I can go with the ST80 or with the little and very light 60mm f/4 guidescope I already have..

??? The real fear is that I have to switch to an OAG ¨C because I would have to replace the filter wheel and filters too, but I am trying to push that thought out of my head with exactly what you said.. ¡°It ain¡¯t that hard¡±.. If I ignore my (currently) excessive Dec Backlash / ignore guiding in Dec at all or just one direction, then it *will* be easy, as my RA guides easily and very well..

??? The bigger problem is the $%@^&*&# Weather.. Perfectly clear last night, but 30mph winds.. I swear the weather is messing with me now..

?

Derek


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Christensen
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 10:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Thread pitch..

?

Derek,

?

Your recent post suggested you have a fear of autoguiding. You shouldn¡¯t be afraid of it. Some try to image without guiding and almost make a fetish of it. I don¡¯t recommend you do that other than with short focal length imaging optics.

?

With a modest focal length like 1000 mm or less guiding is easy and doesn¡¯t require anything like a Barlow on the guider as you suggested you would need to do.

In fact, at 1000mm focal length for the imaging scope, a 300mm or less guider will be fine.

?

And the shorter guide scope focal length will make it easier to find guide stars.

?

Why can you get away with a guider with 1/3 to ? of the focal length of the imaging scope? Because autoguider cameras and software can detect errors of the order of 1/10th to ? pixel routinely.

?

Another very common mistake is to guide with an expensive, heavy, APO refractors, when a lighter weight (but still rigid) and shorter focal length instrument will work ¨C heavy expensive guidescopes are a waste of money and mass budget. But if it is what you have, and you can live with the weight, go ahead and use it. But you don¡¯t need to Barlow it.

?

People often assume that everything has to be absolutely optimal and perfect in this business. That¡¯s OK if you want to set yourself up for unhappiness, esp. since 2 arc second ?long term seeing is very common (which is why planetary imaging now uses video streams and software to pluck out the best frames). I have friends who remotely image from mountains and they cry if they don¡¯t get 1 arc second or better over 10s of minutes. We who live under the air-ocean rarely get to see that.

?

I got into this hobby when guiding meant the lucky astronomer had to glue their eyeball to a guide scope eyepiece and push buttons on a hand controller. And individual (film) exposures could be ? hour or more long. Try doing that on a cold winters night ¨C my jeans once froze to the ground while guiding near the zenith. Autoguiding makes that trivial and easy. And cheap compared to everything else.

?

My bottom line is that there is no reason not to guide for long exposures given the availability of guide cameras and free software. And it doesn¡¯t require a high-end computer to do it. In fact, the cheaper the better since laptops are generally not built to resist dew and frost ¨C taking a high-end MAC or PC into the field is not necessary or desirable. Put the laptop in a tub and put a silicon keyboard skin on it.

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So don¡¯t be afraid of autoguiding. And like anything else, practice makes perfect.

?

Regards,

?

Mark Christensen

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Virus-free.


Re: Thread pitch..

 

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Derek, you will get it all together, I have been following these threads because I know that my nights of trials and tribulations? will be here soon enough. I am going to start with a small fast APO and a modded DSLR Canon camera everyone says this is the best of routes to go and when you go bigger aperture the 80mm can move over to a guide scope. but one thing My backup plan is I can spend the night just viewing if al else fails. I've been Lucky down here in Florida, I've been able to get out five nights sense New Years eve.the last two nights have been crystal clear.? Clear Skies and no wind to you.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Derek C Breit <breit_ideas@...>
Date: 1/6/20 11:47 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Thread pitch..

Hello Mark..

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I have pretty much come to that conclusion, that it shouldn¡¯t be that hard.. One thing I am fearful of is that I am wrong and that all the people ¨C who actually have done guiding ¨C are right that the way I want to do it wont work..

??? Yeah, forget I ever mentioned barlowing the guidescope, I wont be doing that..

Many people use an ST80 as a guidescope, and I could use the one I have, but the NightHawk is vastly superior mechanically (much better focuser and can be locked), all connection toward the camera are either threaded or compression ring w/ multiple thumbscrews, and of course two rings hold the scope, and one ring is near the camera.. If any setup is adequately rigid, this one is.. If it is still not good enough, but I am confident it will be, I can go with the ST80 or with the little and very light 60mm f/4 guidescope I already have..

??? The real fear is that I have to switch to an OAG ¨C because I would have to replace the filter wheel and filters too, but I am trying to push that thought out of my head with exactly what you said.. ¡°It ain¡¯t that hard¡±.. If I ignore my (currently) excessive Dec Backlash / ignore guiding in Dec at all or just one direction, then it *will* be easy, as my RA guides easily and very well..

??? The bigger problem is the $%@^&*&# Weather.. Perfectly clear last night, but 30mph winds.. I swear the weather is messing with me now..

?

Derek


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Christensen
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 10:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Thread pitch..

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Derek,

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Your recent post suggested you have a fear of autoguiding. You shouldn¡¯t be afraid of it. Some try to image without guiding and almost make a fetish of it. I don¡¯t recommend you do that other than with short focal length imaging optics.

?

With a modest focal length like 1000 mm or less guiding is easy and doesn¡¯t require anything like a Barlow on the guider as you suggested you would need to do.

In fact, at 1000mm focal length for the imaging scope, a 300mm or less guider will be fine.

?

And the shorter guide scope focal length will make it easier to find guide stars.

?

Why can you get away with a guider with 1/3 to ? of the focal length of the imaging scope? Because autoguider cameras and software can detect errors of the order of 1/10th to ? pixel routinely.

?

Another very common mistake is to guide with an expensive, heavy, APO refractors, when a lighter weight (but still rigid) and shorter focal length instrument will work ¨C heavy expensive guidescopes are a waste of money and mass budget. But if it is what you have, and you can live with the weight, go ahead and use it. But you don¡¯t need to Barlow it.

?

People often assume that everything has to be absolutely optimal and perfect in this business. That¡¯s OK if you want to set yourself up for unhappiness, esp. since 2 arc second ?long term seeing is very common (which is why planetary imaging now uses video streams and software to pluck out the best frames). I have friends who remotely image from mountains and they cry if they don¡¯t get 1 arc second or better over 10s of minutes. We who live under the air-ocean rarely get to see that.

?

I got into this hobby when guiding meant the lucky astronomer had to glue their eyeball to a guide scope eyepiece and push buttons on a hand controller. And individual (film) exposures could be ? hour or more long. Try doing that on a cold winters night ¨C my jeans once froze to the ground while guiding near the zenith. Autoguiding makes that trivial and easy. And cheap compared to everything else.

?

My bottom line is that there is no reason not to guide for long exposures given the availability of guide cameras and free software. And it doesn¡¯t require a high-end computer to do it. In fact, the cheaper the better since laptops are generally not built to resist dew and frost ¨C taking a high-end MAC or PC into the field is not necessary or desirable. Put the laptop in a tub and put a silicon keyboard skin on it.

?

So don¡¯t be afraid of autoguiding. And like anything else, practice makes perfect.

?

Regards,

?

Mark Christensen

?

Virus-free.


Re: Thread pitch..

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Hello Mark..

?

I have pretty much come to that conclusion, that it shouldn¡¯t be that hard.. One thing I am fearful of is that I am wrong and that all the people ¨C who actually have done guiding ¨C are right that the way I want to do it wont work..

??? Yeah, forget I ever mentioned barlowing the guidescope, I wont be doing that..

Many people use an ST80 as a guidescope, and I could use the one I have, but the NightHawk is vastly superior mechanically (much better focuser and can be locked), all connection toward the camera are either threaded or compression ring w/ multiple thumbscrews, and of course two rings hold the scope, and one ring is near the camera.. If any setup is adequately rigid, this one is.. If it is still not good enough, but I am confident it will be, I can go with the ST80 or with the little and very light 60mm f/4 guidescope I already have..

??? The real fear is that I have to switch to an OAG ¨C because I would have to replace the filter wheel and filters too, but I am trying to push that thought out of my head with exactly what you said.. ¡°It ain¡¯t that hard¡±.. If I ignore my (currently) excessive Dec Backlash / ignore guiding in Dec at all or just one direction, then it *will* be easy, as my RA guides easily and very well..

??? The bigger problem is the $%@^&*&# Weather.. Perfectly clear last night, but 30mph winds.. I swear the weather is messing with me now..

?

Derek


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Christensen
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 10:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Thread pitch..

?

Derek,

?

Your recent post suggested you have a fear of autoguiding. You shouldn¡¯t be afraid of it. Some try to image without guiding and almost make a fetish of it. I don¡¯t recommend you do that other than with short focal length imaging optics.

?

With a modest focal length like 1000 mm or less guiding is easy and doesn¡¯t require anything like a Barlow on the guider as you suggested you would need to do.

In fact, at 1000mm focal length for the imaging scope, a 300mm or less guider will be fine.

?

And the shorter guide scope focal length will make it easier to find guide stars.

?

Why can you get away with a guider with 1/3 to ? of the focal length of the imaging scope? Because autoguider cameras and software can detect errors of the order of 1/10th to ? pixel routinely.

?

Another very common mistake is to guide with an expensive, heavy, APO refractors, when a lighter weight (but still rigid) and shorter focal length instrument will work ¨C heavy expensive guidescopes are a waste of money and mass budget. But if it is what you have, and you can live with the weight, go ahead and use it. But you don¡¯t need to Barlow it.

?

People often assume that everything has to be absolutely optimal and perfect in this business. That¡¯s OK if you want to set yourself up for unhappiness, esp. since 2 arc second ?long term seeing is very common (which is why planetary imaging now uses video streams and software to pluck out the best frames). I have friends who remotely image from mountains and they cry if they don¡¯t get 1 arc second or better over 10s of minutes. We who live under the air-ocean rarely get to see that.

?

I got into this hobby when guiding meant the lucky astronomer had to glue their eyeball to a guide scope eyepiece and push buttons on a hand controller. And individual (film) exposures could be ? hour or more long. Try doing that on a cold winters night ¨C my jeans once froze to the ground while guiding near the zenith. Autoguiding makes that trivial and easy. And cheap compared to everything else.

?

My bottom line is that there is no reason not to guide for long exposures given the availability of guide cameras and free software. And it doesn¡¯t require a high-end computer to do it. In fact, the cheaper the better since laptops are generally not built to resist dew and frost ¨C taking a high-end MAC or PC into the field is not necessary or desirable. Put the laptop in a tub and put a silicon keyboard skin on it.

?

So don¡¯t be afraid of autoguiding. And like anything else, practice makes perfect.

?

Regards,

?

Mark Christensen

?

Virus-free.


Re: G-11/Gemini2 Hand Controller Acting Weird

 

Thanks.? That makes sense.? It's always weird when things all work fine for a while and then suddenly, they don't.? But I suppose anything electrical is subject to spurious glitches from time-to-time.?

Jim?

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:31 AM Derek C Breit <breit_ideas@...> wrote:

Take a look at your model parameters with the hand controller and look for large numbers..

And / or if you just want it fixed, put it back in the park position, cycle the power and do a cold boot..

You will have to build a new model, but it will be ¡°fixed¡±..

My mount did similar last time I used it and it was that the model got messed up, maybe by glitch, maybe by a bad entry by me, but either way, a cold boot fixed it..

?

Derek

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Ribble
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 7:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] G-11/Gemini2 Hand Controller Acting Weird

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Probably a dumb question but:? Unsure what/how to do that.

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Jim

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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 10:55 PM crocco1250 via Groups.Io <crocco1250=[email protected]> wrote:

Brian and Jim

Is it possible the list stored in memory has been corrupted?? On the web server, check the status of the stored files.

Chuck


On Sunday, January 5, 2020 Jim Ribble <[email protected]> wrote:

The night got cold and I packed?it in, but I'll double check to see if somehow maybe a "-" sign got deleted.? Why that would change from my last session, I don't know....but? I suppose anything's possible.

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And I'll continue to sweet-talk it.??

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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 10:35 PM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:

Is it possible your location is off?

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Or maybe you didn¡¯t talk nicely enough to it J

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Brian

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Ribble
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 7:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Losmandy_users_io] G-11/Gemini2 Hand Controller Acting Weird

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Hi guys,?
I've been using my G-11/Gemini2 for a couple of years now, and all of a sudden, the hand controller (or more specifically the Go To function) is acting oddly.? If I tell it to go to a specific target, it will slew to some seemingly random location in the sky.? Furthermore, if I go to my "solar system" list, each planet, the moon, etc. are blacked out (even though the moon was high in the sky at the time), thus it won't slew to any of them.? Whatever is going on has confounded SGPro, so I can't get SGPro to work either.

The internal battery is fresh (4 months old), the date/time/offset etc. are all set, the cable seems intact because all the manual controls work fine....and I've even talked nicely to it.? No joy.? The only obvious variable that has changed is the year "2020."

Anyone have any thoughts?? All input greatly appreciated.?

Jim R.??

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Virus-free.