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Re: BP500 Questions

 

Here's the latest regarding my June order from the Florida store manager.

"Good Morning Dennis,

We do not have an estimate on when they will ship.? I apologize for the delay.?

Henry G. | WD4OHM
Manager Ham Radio Outlet Florida"

It looks like HRO is continuing a lopsided and unfair fulfilment process here.

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Re: Firmware update using Linux (Ubuntu

 

Dominic,

Wonderful response. Thanks for the hints to further my education.?

After posting this query, I installed WSJT-X and that process included an OS restart.? Followed that up with actually enabling the 'Activate' button in the flrig transceiver setup. Then I heard relay clicking in the TX500 and I was online with CAT control.?? I did notice that the modem group was temporary so i shall practice the user settings as suggested.

End result: once I found and selected the correct sound adapter for WSJT-X, there were stations being decoded and I was able to call CQ.? Got one to respond and we logged the exchange.? Success!? Next step is to find the audio level adjustments in the sound adapter to get the audio a bit stronger so the radio is sending a few more watts.? It's very QRP right now.
--
Grace & peace,
Tim AF6TF


Re: Firmware update using Linux (Ubuntu

G7TOK
 

I love this. It's every Linux thread ever :D


Re: Firmware update using Linux (Ubuntu

 

Tim Fairbairn <af6tf.tim@...> wrote:

Searched for help with flrig in Linux and found this thread. I found other
help that recommended to use udev (what's that mean?) to list changes when a
USB device is added with
sudo udevadm monitor -u

This produced the following when I plugged in a DigiRig interface which has
both sound and serial built in:

[...snipped...]
UDEV [47419.512528] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2
(usb)
UDEV [47419.515288] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/
1-1.2:1.0 (usb)
UDEV [47419.518040] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/
1-1.2:1.0/gpio/gpiochip824 (gpio)
UDEV [47419.518197] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/
1-1.2:1.0/gpiochip1 (gpio)
UDEV [47419.519902] bind /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/
1-1.2:1.0/gpiochip1 (gpio)
UDEV [47419.523843] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/
1-1.2:1.0/ttyUSB0 (usb-serial)
UDEV [47419.551451] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/
1-1.2:1.0/ttyUSB0/tty/ttyUSB0 (tty)

Based on this, I gathered that ttyUSB0 is the serial port. But linking this
port in flrig to the lab599 TXR doesn't yield a connection. So I tested the
commands shown by VA3SYS with these results
tim@af6tf-ubuntu:~$ ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 188, 0 Feb 7 15:47 /dev/ttyUSB0
tim@af6tf-ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod 777 /dev/ttyUSB0
tim@af6tf-ubuntu:~$ ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0
crwxrwxrwx 1 root dialout 188, 0 Feb 7 15:47 /dev/ttyUSB0
As chmod 777 is probably fine *for the moment* - this is not a permanent
solution because udev will re-assign the rules on the next re-connection
of that device. I suggest adding the user to the dialout group that has
per default write permissions on that device.

`sudo usermod -aG dialout $USER`

Will add you to that group. No chmod will then be needed again, this is
also true for other devices that result beeing in that dialout group.
If you want to know more about groups and permissions you may want to
read some manpages within your terminal, `man chmod` and ` man udev`
could be a good start.

If you find something that mentions *verbose* or *debug* enable it and
try to get a logfile so we can see what flrig is actually doing.

You could try launching flrig from within a console which sometimes
already gives useful information about the program and what it actaully
tries to accomplish (and where it failed).

-dominic


I don't yet know what a dial-out group is but I can see the file permissions
have all be granted. After completing these steps, flrig still doesn't connect
the lab599 TRX when I've selected '/dev/ttyUSB0' as the port.

Looking for help to get this going. Ubuntu can be such a good OS and I have a
lot of learning to get there.

--
Grace & peace,
Tim AF6TF
--
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority,
it is time to reform (or pause and reflect).
- Mark Twain


Re: Firmware update using Linux (Ubuntu

 

Check port speed and format. Should be 9600 8N1 no flow control.
Also I would try some terminal app, minicom for instance in order to connect and send some commands to trx directly by hand and check what happens.


Re: Firmware update using Linux (Ubuntu

 
Edited

If i understand correctly, you are trying to control the vfo on tx-500 with flrig ?
Are you getting any errors on flrig when using the /dev/ttyUSB0 ?
Also keep in mind that every time you unplug/plug back in you will have to run chmod 777 /dev/ttyUSB0 unless if you add your linux user to group named "dialout".


Re: Firmware update using Linux (Ubuntu

 

Searched for help with flrig in Linux and found this thread.? I found other help that recommended to use udev (what's that mean?) to list changes when a USB device is added with
sudo udevadm monitor -u

This produced the following when I plugged in a DigiRig interface which has both sound and serial built in:

UDEV? [47418.867835] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1 (usb)
UDEV? [47418.870668] change?? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1 (usb)
UDEV? [47418.873202] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0 (usb)
UDEV? [47418.874987] bind???? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0 (usb)
UDEV? [47418.877095] bind???? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.312860] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.315781] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.317213] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.2 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.317510] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.1 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.317721] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.3 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.319556] bind???? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.1 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.321208] bind???? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.2 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.321730] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0/sound/card1 (sound)
UDEV? [47419.322322] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.3/0003:0D8C:013C.0012 (hid)
UDEV? [47419.324923] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0/sound/card1/pcmC1D0p (sound)
UDEV? [47419.326561] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.3/0003:0D8C:013C.0012/input/input66 (input)
UDEV? [47419.327621] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0/sound/card1/pcmC1D0c (sound)
UDEV? [47419.333277] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.3/0003:0D8C:013C.0012/hidraw/hidraw2 (hidraw)
UDEV? [47419.354216] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0/sound/card1/controlC1 (sound)
UDEV? [47419.356620] bind???? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.379321] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.3/0003:0D8C:013C.0012/input/input66/event21 (input)
UDEV? [47419.381297] bind???? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.3/0003:0D8C:013C.0012 (hid)
UDEV? [47419.383386] bind???? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.3 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.390802] bind???? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.395253] change?? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0/sound/card1 (sound)
UDEV? [47419.512528] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.515288] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0 (usb)
UDEV? [47419.518040] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0/gpio/gpiochip824 (gpio)
UDEV? [47419.518197] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0/gpiochip1 (gpio)
UDEV? [47419.519902] bind???? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0/gpiochip1 (gpio)
UDEV? [47419.523843] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0/ttyUSB0 (usb-serial)
UDEV? [47419.551451] add????? /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0/ttyUSB0/tty/ttyUSB0 (tty)

Based on this, I gathered that ttyUSB0 is the serial port.? But linking this port in flrig to the lab599 TXR doesn't yield a connection. So I tested the commands shown by VA3SYS with these results
tim@af6tf-ubuntu:~$ ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 188, 0 Feb? 7 15:47 /dev/ttyUSB0
tim@af6tf-ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod 777 /dev/ttyUSB0
tim@af6tf-ubuntu:~$ ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0
crwxrwxrwx 1 root dialout 188, 0 Feb? 7 15:47 /dev/ttyUSB0

I don't yet know what a dial-out group is but I can see the file permissions have all be granted.? After completing these steps, flrig still doesn't connect the lab599 TRX when I've selected '/dev/ttyUSB0' as the port.

Looking for help to get this going.? Ubuntu can be such a good OS and I have a lot of learning to get there.

--
Grace & peace,
Tim AF6TF


Re: service

 

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Turn around for my tx-500 was about 15 days to and from the Middle East (I think). I picked up a ¡°you-never-know¡± spare so I wasn¡¯t counting days.?

73,

Bill Watkins
K0WHW
kf7yxs@...
YouTube: @Bill-HRT





On Feb 4, 2024, at 08:48, VA3SYS <i0x915@...> wrote:

?Did anyone have any updates on service turnaround ?

thanks


Re: service

 

Did anyone have any updates on service turnaround ?

thanks


Lower Power on 10m

 

Hey all,

When running FT8 on 10m, I'm only getting out on 8w instead of 10. My power is set to 100 on the radio and both my sound output & pwr meter in WSJT-X are set to 100%. My SWR is 1.7 on 10m.

I would attribute it to SWR but on 15m, I'm able to get out on 10w with the same SWR reading.

Has anyone run into this type of problem before? Thanks!


Re: IF DSP explanation

G7TOK
 

At least the DIF function is there, I had the Xiegu X6100 briefly, that was a horror story of loud, un-moveable birdies.


Re: IF DSP explanation

 

I don't see any change in performance with the DIF option on or off apart from the expected shift in the birdies.?

The radio does have quite a few birdies, some of which are in annoying locations. From memory, there's one around 7032kHz which is a common frequency for low power and SOTA ops. Another strong one at 14063 kHz, again a common QRP area. These can be shifted using the DIF function which makes me wonder why the designer couldn't just map them all out and have the radio automatically IF shift to make them invisible to the user....


Re: IF DSP explanation

 

I think the performance difference mentioned in the manual just refers to IF DSP being enabled or not. Which would make sense that if all DSP functionality being disabled, then the performance of the receiver would be lower.








-------- Original Message --------
On Jan 29, 2024, 14:11, Pete Millis < pete.millis@...> wrote:

As far as I'm aware, DIF on or off does not affect receiver performance. It just changes the virtual IF.
Pete M3KXZ

On Mon, 29 Jan 2024, 13:54 Larry Naumann, <n0sa@...> wrote:

Tim
?Thanks for the info.

I understand the IF shift part but I have seen no explaination in the manual that states receiver performance is reduced If DIF is OFF.
Larry
n0sa



Re: IF DSP explanation

 

As far as I'm aware, DIF on or off does not affect receiver performance. It just changes the virtual IF.
Pete M3KXZ

On Mon, 29 Jan 2024, 13:54 Larry Naumann, <n0sa@...> wrote:

Tim
?Thanks for the info.

I understand the IF shift part but I have seen no explaination in the manual that states receiver performance is reduced If DIF is OFF.
Larry
n0sa



Re: IF DSP explanation

 

Tim
?Thanks for the info.

I understand the IF shift part but I have seen no explaination in the manual that states receiver performance is reduced If DIF is OFF.
Larry
n0sa



Re: IF DSP explanation

 

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Hi Larry,
If you tune around 20m (band i know the best) connected to a dummy load youll find a spike of noise i think about 336 (well i think thats where it is on mine). This spike is from the radio its self and if you want to work someone under the spike you're going to have a hard time. The DIF shifts the IF so this spike moves up or down the band (forget which). The general idea as i understand?it is you tune till you find the noise, hit DIF to move it, tune some more until you find the noise again and hit DIF to move it back so you dont have to hear it.
Not sure if that answers your question.
73
tim w3qp


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Larry Naumann via groups.io <n0sa@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2024 11:26 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Lab599] IF DSP explanation
?
Yes, the bandpass filter was the solution. I just wasn¡¯t sure what the problem was yesterday.
Usually the offending signal is on a lower frequency, this was the other way around and not harmonically related.
This was an all qrp activity but the antennas were all rather close.
I am sure my bandpass filter will take care of this issue.
I still don¡¯t know what difference DIF makes to the receiver other than moving the IF.
Although it does state in the manual that with it OFF performance is slightly degraded but no explaination is given.
Larry
n0sa


Re: IF DSP explanation

 

Yes, the bandpass filter was the solution. I just wasn¡¯t sure what the problem was yesterday.
Usually the offending signal is on a lower frequency, this was the other way around and not harmonically related.
This was an all qrp activity but the antennas were all rather close.
I am sure my bandpass filter will take care of this issue.
I still don¡¯t know what difference DIF makes to the receiver other than moving the IF.
Although it does state in the manual that with it OFF performance is slightly degraded but no explaination is given.
Larry
n0sa


Re: IF DSP explanation

 
Edited

It wouldn¡¯t hurt to use them. ?On Field Day with a lot of different radios so close to each other, it¡¯s a good idea to isolate the band your on to avoid spill over. ?

David
KO4DKN


Re: IF DSP explanation

 

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Larry,

Would Band Pass Filter be the best thing to use with radio being so close to together regardless of them being on different bands?

Ammed Ismail?
KN6STX

On Jan 28, 2024, at 4:05?AM, Larry Naumann <n0sa@...> wrote:

?

Just a bit of a follow up. I did a bit more testing.
It seems the overload from strong out of band signals on 10m causes the spurious signals to appear.
This is an overload condition with the preamp on. If I turn off the preamp the issue goes away.
If I leave the preamp on and add a 15m bandpass filter in front of the radio the issue goes away.
Ths DIF function moves the spurs but does not eliminate them.?
I guess my question now is, does the radio perform better with DIF engaged or disengaged and what is the difference in performance?

Larry
n0sa


Re: IF DSP explanation

 

Just a bit of a follow up. I did a bit more testing.
It seems the overload from strong out of band signals on 10m causes the spurious signals to appear.
This is an overload condition with the preamp on. If I turn off the preamp the issue goes away.
If I leave the preamp on and add a 15m bandpass filter in front of the radio the issue goes away.
Ths DIF function moves the spurs but does not eliminate them.?
I guess my question now is, does the radio perform better with DIF engaged or disengaged and what is the difference in performance?

Larry
n0sa