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Hi Chris. We will be relocating to the UK in about 2 to 3 months. I am really hoping that my husband finds work in London or Hampshire, in which case, I would also be more than happy to assist. It would not be on a full time basis, as I am hoping to find a half day job there, and then be with my kids in the afternoon. However, I am a night owl, so if it is an option, I can help in the evenings and on weekends

HI Chris I would be more than happy to get involved however I work full time and the archives at the Sikorski Institute are only open during the week. If the project will continue next year I can take few days off. If anything could be done at home or over the weekends, count me in. From my personal experience, searching for any information about my grandfather, I have noticed that their index of names is very limited. My grandfather's name wasn't there yet when I searched the history of the units he served in His name was mentioned a few times. If by any chance you will get a chance to work there please bear this in mind so if you come across names please check if they are listed in the index. If not please add them to the list with the reference of the files or if the names are already listed please check if the reference of that document is included. It will help relatives of researchers to have a full information about these people. I have only scratched a surface of my grandfather's whereabouts because it took me almost a day to locate his name. It's an exciting project. I spent a full day with no food or water as I didn't want to loose any minute:)))) Best regards. Izabela "Chris W wroblew705@... [Kresy-Siberia]" wrote: Thanks Michael! The hope is that if we get enough people together a group could then spend several days cataloging (or whatever amount of time individuals can manage). This would of course be dependent on what PISM will allow. For those from out of town perhaps arrangements could be made with local members to put them up for a few days or more as London is pricy. Chris.....

Thanks Terry appreciate your thoughts. To be clear we have not approached PISM yet. As mentioned in my original post we want to first get an idea of how many people would be interested before any offer is made. Chris.....

Thanks Michael! The hope is that if we get enough people together a group could then spend several days cataloging (or whatever amount of time individuals can manage). This would of course be dependent on what PISM will allow. For those from out of town perhaps arrangements could be made with local members to put them up for a few days or more as London is pricy. Chris.....

Living in Canada, even though I'd certainly be interested in helping, it isn't really an option. Still I'd like to offer a comment. The fact that the Institute is willing to let volunteers take up the task is huge. Cataloging and documenting as of yet unknown material? I know an individual who approached the Hoover Institute several years ago with a solid plan about organizing and digitizing material from the Anders' collection, starting with the testimonies and pictures. The constraints they placed to do that made the project undoable and so there everything sits just as it was. I hope the PISM project is a success. Terry Polewski Windsor, Canada Hallerowo/Sorokanda

Dear Stefan, I received your message through Greg's computer. I will contact Anita. Thank you, Eva Dryanska Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Gregory Dryanski <gdryanski@...> wrote:

i visit london a couple of times a year and might be interested in volunteering a few days to this project but i am not a polish speaker al;tho i can understand some speech and read a few words with assistance of a dictionary. could i be of some use? michael sydney

Hi, thank you for posting this interesting story, it's good to know they actually remember us and I know they are trying to be nice to us but I found Pan Duda's speech a bit bombastic but then I grew up totally surrounded by the survivors of Monte Cassino who tended to have a more subdued and sad recollection of the event plus all the friends and colleagues they left behind in the cemeteries and naturally I tend to share their attitude for that reason so this speech would seem a bit bombastic for us who grew up so close to this event. Actually you don't really need to "imagine" the scenes described in Pan Duda's speech, just look at the pictures in the "family album" of the Polish Second Corps, "Trail of Hope", for graphic illustrations but then again I, like other "children of this regiment", have the benefit of all the remembered narrations of our fathers (and for some, their mothers) about these pictures:- I just wish this book had been published 50 years ago! It's also good to know that Pani Anders was also there, how nice of her, a general's daughter, to occasionally remember the front-line troops, the children of whom we are! Perhaps also, in the midst of using this event to do a bit of political posturing in Poland's dealings with the EU leadership Pan Duda, Pani Anders, and of course Pan Kaczynski and Pani Szyd?o et al might also remember that the Polish soldiers of Monte Cassino are survived by a lot of adult children who really would like some help to trace our missing kinfolk left behind in the USSR in 1942 and elsewhere and to re-establish our Polish citizenship without having to spend a "bundle" doing it, and it would also be so helpful if they could educate the mainland Polish public about us and discourage visiting Polish bumpkins from denying that we are actually Polish but only merely foreigners of distant Polish ancestry, which can be so very obnoxious to someone who has so many soldiers of the Second Republic in her ancestry. Cheers on this balmy and lazy Sunday afternoon in Toronto, Canada!

This is why the Polish government decided to make the Gdansk museum a museum focused on Polish history. Poland’s history is the least known of all the major countries in the West. Every other country’s historical narrative has been publicized as their first priority. Poland has been denied this opportunity and now some of these same countries criticize Poland for trying to make its history known, in so many cases to its own citizens, as you correctly observe. Sadly, people who controlled Polish government until last October tried to suppress popularizing the nation’s history as strenuously as did the occupiers in the past.

I also do not intend to get involved in this debate further than my comment here, which I trust might be illuminating for the person initially posing this question. From what I can tell, this is a battle about control over the content of the new museum, not whether it will open or not. Timothy Snyder and Norman Davies are certainly appearing to be anti-PiS party (so, it is them being political, not me), and are prematurely (over-) reacting to what they think might happen, when the actual changes in content have not yet been announced. So, their protestations do not appear to be based on fact, just innuendo, and are yet another attempt to seek to discredit the current Polish government. However, one key Fact is revealed by a statement by Snyder in his attack on the current government's actions regarding the proposed combining of the two museums: "Snyder, a signatory of that statement and author of “Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin,” said the world has other World War II museums but they all take an exclusively national view. " So, WHY, I ask Mr Snyder, should POLAND's WW2 museum be the first one to NOT take a nationalistic view ?! If a nationalist view was good enough for Germany, France, Britain, the USA etc, then Why Not for Poland?? All the other countries that interacted with Poland during WW2 (for better or worse!) would obviously be included in all the historical information, for reasons of context and timeline. From what I have read, the initial concept of this new museum was to take a "unique" multi-faceted, global view of WW2, but it was also, from what I have read, designed to take an "EU"-political view of WW2. So, before anyone starts casting stones at Poland's current government for not being as EU-loving as the previous government, please take a look at all the many other EU member states (Germany, France, UK, Austria, etc) and see how many others are not as EU-loving as they used to be. Poland was just ahead of the curve on many EU-related matters - and the rest of Europe is just catching up now. My personal view is that Poland, like all the other major European countries who have a WW2 museum based on their own perspective, deserves to have a modern museum based on its own POLISH perspective. I also am very confident that they will have significant content coverage of the Kresy history, as these areas were part of Poland on 1 September 1939. More than any other Polish government since 1989, as the one that finally was democratically elected as a single-majority-party government, I trust the current Polish government to deliver this Polish perspective - no matter how many foreign-born historians get their nose out of joint about it. Dan Zamoyski Bakewell, Derbyshire, England From: Kresy-Siberia@... To: Kresy-Siberia@... Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 20:45:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] PiS takeover of Gdansk war museum I don’t intend to get into this debate; the question had been asked, I answered it. Each of us is capable of looking back into recent history and find out the extent to which my answer is correct or not. PS. Grant policies have nothing to with the intent of the question.

Panie Stefan--well said. We are on the edge of a "slippery slope". Pozdrawiam z Seattle, Antek

Not quite the same thing, but I had an experience of lost memory last month, in Florence. The clerk at our hotel was a pretty girl with striking blue eyes and handsome cheeks. I asked her if she were Swedish. No, she was Polish. Where from? "Oh, a place you have never heard of--Lublin." I insisted it was quite famous, and begin to talk about the "London Poles" and the "Lublin Poles" in 1945 and all that they portended for the future of Poland, not to mention Europe and indeed the world. Her eyes glazed over. "Well, you know more about it than I do," she said. To the young, everything that went before is ancient history. -- Dan Ford USA

Yes I agree and accept the rules. Chaim

*Dear members / Drodzy cz?onkowie* I am concerned that some of our new (and not so new) members have lately been transgressing the basic guidelines for the Kresy-Siberia Group. For everyone's convenience, I reproduce them here: We are dedicated to research, recognize and remember Poland’s citizens fighting for freedom and survival in eastern Poland and in forced exile during WW2. Group membership is by approval only, open to all persons who introduce themselves, explain their interest, confidentially register their contact details and respect group rules. Discussions are moderated and messages are kept private to members. *The basic rules are to keep comments on topic and to respect group values.* We all strive to avoid disparaging or offending other group members - this is a friendly and supportive group with common goals rather than a debating society. We are all trying to learn from each other, not score points. *We avoid commenting on current politics that could cause dissension in the group*. *Prejudicial remarks of a religious or racial nature are not tolerated.* Group Moderators reserve the right to warn, suspend or remove anyone who is unable to respect these rules. We ask your support in sharing information and photos, recording Survivor interviews and volunteering on the Virtual Museum www.KRESY-SIBERIA.org ( http://www.KRESY-SIBERIA.org ) , events or charity administration. To fund all of these activities, we also ask all members to make a voluntary Subscriber donation of US$40 per year or more at: www.kresy-siberia.org/museum/donate ( http://www.kresy-siberia.org/museum/donate ). Obawiam si?, ?e niektórzy z naszych nowszych – i nie tak nowych – cz?onków ostatnio przekraczaj? podstawowe wytyczne Grupy Kresy-Syberia. Dla ka?dego wygody przytaczam je ni?ej: Kresy-Syberia jet po?wi?cona do badania, upami?tnienia i uznania obywateli Polski, walcz?cych o ?ycie i wolno?? w okresie II wojny ?wiatowej, w Kresach wschodnich i na uchod?stwie. Cz?onkostwo grupy dyskusyjnej jest jedynie przez zatwierdzenie, dla wszystkich osób, którzy przedstawiaj? si?, wyja?niaj? swoje zainteresowanie, poufnie zarejestruj? swoje dane kontaktowe i szanuj? zasady grupy. Dyskusje s? moderowane i wiadomo?ci s? prywatne dla uczestników. *Podstawowe zasady grupy zawieraj? ograniczenie dyskusji do tematu i poszanowanie warto?ci grupy.* Jeste?my przyjazn? i wzajemnie wspieraj?c? grup? ludzi, którzy d??? uczy? si? razem a nie ko?em debat gdzie zaliczamy punkty. Unikamy lekcewa?enia lub obra?ania innych cz?onków grupy. *Unikamy komentowanie bie??cej polityki, aby nie spowodowa? niezgod? w grupie.* *Uwagi szkodliwe o charakterze religijnym lub rasowym nie s? tolerowane.* Moderatorzy zastrzegaj? sobie prawo do ostrzegania, zawieszenia lub usuni?cia ka?dego, kto nie przestrzega tych zasad. Prosimy równie? o wsparcie, podzieleniem si? informacj? i zdj?ciami, nagrywaniem wywiadów z weteranami i Sybirakami, lub zg?oszeniem si? jako wolontariusz nad Wirtualne Muzeum www.KRESY-SYBERIA.org ( http://www.KRESY-SYBERIA.org ) , imprezach lub administracji charytatywnej. Na finansowanie kosztów wszystkich tych dzia?ań, prosimy wszystkich cz?onków, aby dobrowolnie podarowali co najmniej na poziomie abonenta USD40 rocznie b?d? wi?cej, poprzez stron?: www.kresy-siberia.org/museum/pl/donate ( http://www.kresy-siberia.org/museum/pl/donate ) Best regards, Pozdrawiam, ______________________________________________________________________________ Stefan Wi?niowski Kresy-Siberia Foundation President Prezes Fundacji Kresy-Syberia Virtual Museum/Wirtualne Muzeum: www.Kresy-Siberia.org ( http://www.Kresy-Siberia.org ) Discussion group/Grupa dyskusyjna: www.facebook.com/groups/KresySiberiaGroup/ ( http://www.facebook.com/groups/KresySiberiaGroup/ ) <

Norbert, jeste? jak najbardziej mile widziane, mój polski nie jest dobre, wi?c u?ywam Google Translate, ale mie? pewno??, ?e Kresy-Siberia Group specjalizuje si? w pomaganiu ludziom znale?? ich historii, rodzin?, robi wszystko, co mo?liwe, aby pomóc. To dlatego, Grupa rozpocz??a i istnieje. Nie wiem, syna Ewy Krygowski, bo Sydney jest bardzo du?e miasto, ale jestem zaskoczony, ?e szukasz Majewski historii, bo ja dopiero niedawno odkryto, ?e moja babcia by?a Balbina Anna Majewska po?lubi?a W?adys?awa Jarkiewicz, ?yj?cy w Grodzisc Mazowiecki, Warszawa. Nie mog? osobi?cie pomóc, bo moja matka pochodzi z Zhitomirski Kaliningradzkim., Jest to dzi?, Ukraina i matka zosta?a przewieziona do Niemiec jako niewolniczej pracy w 1942 roku, gdzie pozna?a mojego ojca, sta?a ?onaty, zanim wyemigrowa? do Australii. Jestem pewien, innych cz?onków, polski mówi?c, ch?tnie pomagaj?, którzy osobi?cie byli w drodze albo mia? krewnych przeby? drog? swojej rodziny. Lenarda, Sydney Australia FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT READ OR WRITE POLISH (MUCH) LIKE ME, HERE IS THE ENGLISH VERSION. Norbert, you are most welcome, my Polish is not good, so I am using Google Translate, but rest assured that Kresy-Siberia Group specializes in assisting people find their history, their family, doing everything that is possible to help you. This is why, the Group was started and exists. I do not know of son of Eve Krygowski, because Sydney is a very big City, but I am surprised that you are looking for Majewski History, because, I just recently, discovered that my Grandmother was Balbina Anna Majewska married to Wladyslaw Jarkiewicz, living in Grodzisc Mazowiecki, Warsaw. I cannot personally, assist you, because my mother comes from Zhitomirski Oblast., this is today, Ukraine and mother was taken to Germany as slave labour in 1942, where she met my father, she became married, before she immigrated to Australia. I am certain other members, Polish speaking, will be happy to assist, who have personally been on the journey or had relatives travel the road of your family. Lenarda, Sydney Australia

Ja mam strony otwarte dla publiczno?ci na ancestry.com i ganowie.org - poza ?yj?cymi. Ta druga wzorowana na kielakowie.pl. To podej?cie u?atwia nawi?zanie kontaktu z wyszukuj?cymi w google. Google indeksuje pojedyńcze strony. Dane ?yj?cych s? blokowane dla u?ytkowników bez uprawnień. Przed hakerami nic nas nie uchroni, co wida? po w?amaniach do pot??nych rz?dowych i komercyjnych sieci. Dla nich to by?oby nieop?acalne. Rz?dy i tak bez skrupu?ów kopiuj? wszystkie transmisje danych. Tak jak Google, portale socjalne i microsoft. Wyci?gaj? informacje nawet ze zdj?? u?ytkowników. Zastanawia?em si? sk?d nagle ta reklama, a potem skojarzy?em, umie?ci?em fotk? z tego miejsca na google+. Orwellowski ?wiat. 2016-05-29 11:55 GMT+02:00 Norbert Kr?meke wit.k@... [Kresy-Siberia] <Kresy-Siberia@...>:

Witaj w grupie Norbert, Bardzo cz?sto przez przypadek zdarza si? znale?? koneksje. ?ycz? by ci si? uda?o. Czy to jest twoja strona http://krygowscy.com/ ? Pozdrawiam Jan Gan 2016-05-28 8:34 GMT+02:00 'Stefan WISNIOWSKI' stefan.wisniowski@... [Kresy-Siberia] <Kresy-Siberia@...>:

FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT READ OR WRITE POLISH, HERE IS THE ENGLISH VERSION (short google translation). I warmly welcome, I am looking information: Stefania Krygowska born 13.8.1868. List of emigrants who sailed on 30/05/1948, on board the "RMS ARUNDEL CASTLE "to Southampton: Item 460: Krygowska Stefania, 79 years. http://www.polishresettlementcampsintheuk.co.uk/passengerlist/shipsindex.htm I found the data in the collection of genealogical Association of House Krygowskich: Wedding took place in Lwow 15.06.1895 in the church of St. Anthony. Husband: Henry Tadeusz Stanislaw Krygowski born 9.3.1860 and 18.2.1915 died in Lwow at the age of only 55 years. Doctor. Wife: Stefania Philippina Maciulska born. 13.08.1868, Joseph Maciulski father, mother Stefania Czacka. What do you still do not know is the history of the deportation Stefani KRYGOWSKI and its further fate after arriving in England in 1948. If they released some new data to lighten her fate in this time, I would be very grateful for your help. Best wishes

Witam serdecznie, w trakcie wymiany listów z pani? Anet? Hoffmann, która próbowa?a nam w 2011 roku poszukiwaniach pomóc, wyp?yn??a historia ze Stefani? Krygowsk? ur. 13.8.1868, gdzie obie strony nie wiedzia?y czy ta osoba by?a z rodzin? Wojtka Majewskiego (syn Ewy Krygowskiej zes?anej do Semipa?atyńska ) zwi?zana. I dopiero teraz po wielu latach ciszy, natkn??em si? w wykazie listy emigrantów, którzy przyp?yn?li w 30.05.1948 roku na pok?adzie "RMS ARUNDEL CASTLE" do Southampton, ?lad Stefani Krygowskiej. Pod pozycj? 460 : KRYGOWSKA Stefania w wieku 79 lat. http://www.polishresettlementcampsintheuk.co.uk/passengerlist/shipsindex.htm Wtedy sprawdzi?em w zbiorach genealogicznych naszego Stowarzyszenia Rodu Krygowskich, ?e owszem mamy takow? wymienian? jako ?on? lekarza lwowskiego Tadeusza Stanis?awa Henryka Krygowskiego ur. 03.09.1860 i zm. 18.02.1915 we Lwowie w wieku zaledwie 55 lat. Ich ?lub mia? miejsce 15.06.1895 we Lwowie w ko?ciele ?w. Antoniego, on mieszka? wtedy przy ul. Trzeciego Maja 2, a przysz?a ?ona Stefania Philippina Maciulska ur. oko?o 1868 , zamieszka?a przy ul. Grottgera 2, rodzice jej to Józef Maciulski i Stefania Czacka. Czego jednak nadal nie wiemy, to historia samej deportacji Stefani Krygowskiej i jej dalszych losów po przybyciu do Anglii w 1948 roku. Gdyby ukaza?y si? jakie? nowe dane pozwalaj?ce rozja?ni? jej losy w tym czasie, by?bym bardzo wdzi?czny za pomoc. Pozdrawiam serdecznie Witold Norbert Kroemeke

Tim, this sounds like Australia, back in the 1950 – 1970 and after this a trickle of Poles started coming out from England, remnants of Market Garden and Africa, but they never spoke and no one listened or knew about the Kresy. I heard the Fairy Tales of War and hardship, but could not relate, until I joined Kresy-Siberia in 2010. Lenarda, Sydney, Australia