[Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Finding our loved family and friends
Hi Julian I agree totally with you - I've spent so much time looking for my mother's sister Zofia Hendel - racing against time to unearth the truth for my mother is 90. I wrote to Anna Maria Anders about my search with no response - I do think she could help with this. Hope this idea gets somewhere Kind regards Anna Dimakopoulou
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Finding our loved family and friends
There are approximately 20 million Polish people residing worldwide outside of Poland. There are approximately 38 million Polish people residing in Poland. There are thousands of Polish people trying to find their relatives and friends for the last 77 years that were scattered through the world because of WW2. There has been little if any help from the Polish government, all Polish private and public agencies and all countries and data storage organization throughout the world in this effort. As I mentioned before this would be a simple task to accomplish especially at this stage of technology. The question is ※why has the Polish community been silent on this matter§ and not demanded action to help these suffering family members searching through scraps of information daily for family members? I suggest that all of us contact all Polish Embassy through the world, all foreign government that we know gave refugee to the Polish refugees and all libraries of nations involved in the WW2 effort and request their entire database regarding the Polish refugees and current Polish population databases. Yes I also think that Stefan and his Kresy-Siberia Organization should take the lead to organize this effort. 229 POLISH EMBASSIES AND CONSULATES http://embassy.goabroad.com/embassies-of/poland I am asking that all of us add to this list all libraries that we know have databases throughout the world that might have information that would be important to this effort. I ask that we share OCR programs that transfer jpeg pages into a word documents and excel type that then can be sorted for easier searches. I ask that we transfer all PDF pages into regular word documents for the same reason. I have English based OCR program but I do not have a Polish OCR program does anyone have one that can used for that purpose? Can everyone list all important polish government officials in this document and their e-mail addresses so all of us can contact them to help in this effort or ask why they refuse to help in this effort. Once we have standard word type pages each of us can have the pages translated in Google for free. That program does not give us a perfect translation but it is excellent tool to find our families and some basic history about them. Our hearts bleed for information about our relative. Poland and all of us should do everything possible to help our people. Julian Plowy
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[Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Family Searches
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I am very happy for you and your family, Karen. None of us find a happy story and I see your mixed feelings, but some people still havent found anything. Great perseverence by you, congratualtions Mark T. Canada
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Family Searches
Dear Members Thank you to all those who have replied to my recent posting. Your words of encouragement have really been much appreciated. Lenarda, what a fantastic story! Reunited with family after all these long years. Your story really touched me. Thank you for sharing. Kind Regards Karen Geffroy (n谷e Nikiel) This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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[Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Family Searches
Dearest Karen, this is so tragically sad, all the years lost, all the years of anguish, but you never gave up, they are together now in Heaven and you have a thread. This is heartbreaking news for you, yet wonderful at the same time, thank you for sharing. Yesterday randomly going through my Heritage Site, found another Jarkiewicz with the same grandparents as me, which I only discovered their names after the death of my brother last year 2015 and my father*s Death Certificate from 1984, that my brother was holding of my dad, was passed over to me by his widow, who is now no longer wanting to be connected with the Polish side. I found the person in charge of that family tree, wrote to them, saying you have the same grandparents as me, are you related? Not only did I get a reply but it was in English from Poland and Yes, I have now connected first time in my 65 years of age, with my father*s side of the family and told that they knew there was a cousin in Australia, but because my parents divorced, communication was non-existent and as a child I could do nothing, until now, after my mother*s death in January, 2016. Yesterday I had my children with me for my Birthday and was connected for the first time, with my cousins, on my father*s side in Poland. The Granddaughter of my father*s brother, called me Aunty, this felt so strange. Regards Lenarda, Sydney, Australia
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[Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Family Searches
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Thank you Vincent for sharing this ,I've had no luck in 30 + yrs searching for my fathers family as he to was the only survivor of the Wysocki family that we know of and I do lose hope every now and again ,every-ancestry site I enter comes up with nothing and I've just submitted a new request with family tracing Thank you for a little more HOPE . Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
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Family Searches
Dear Members This week has been a bit of a rollercoaster for my siblings and I. For years I have been trying to find information on my late father's family, more specifically my grandparents Tadeusz & Helena NIKIEL. Given the fact that my father was an only survivor from his family, I have tried in vain to find out to which Siberian camp my grandmother was deported in 1939, where she died and on what date. In July last year I contacted the International Tracing Service in Germany to see if they could find any information on my grandparents. When I opened my Emails this week, after returning from holiday, there was a reply from the ITS. I was expecting the usual reply that they were unable to find any information, but was excited when I learned that they had found information regarding my grandmother. My excitement very quickly turned to horror & pain. Far from being informed of a date & place of death, I was told that my grandmother had survived the war & in 1960 had made attempts to find my father & his younger brother, Tadeusz. She was residing in Prague at the time. In 1960 we were living in England & had absolutely no idea that my father had any family that had survived the war, let alone a grandmother that was trying to find her sons! It is wonderful to know that Helena NIKIEL did not perish in Siberia, but so very sad to think what could have been had she been reunited with my father and us. We would have had a grandmother & possibly extended family......who knows. The ITS is going to investigate further to see if they can find more information concerning my grandmother & whether she was ever reunited with her youngest son, Tadeusz. If he survived the war, I may have relations still alive. Tragically it is too little too late for Helena!!! I am informing K-S members of my experiences this week in order that it may bring hope to others who for years or maybe their whole life, like me, believed that they had no family that survived the horrors of WWII. Never give up hope! Never give up the search! There are answers out there! Regards Karen Geffroy (n谷e Nikiel) This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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Statistics of Poles Deported to USSR
Actually no, I was talking about a report you posted in 2007. I attach it below. Any Ideas? Best regards, Mark. To ALL Report M.E.R.R.A. c/o British Embassy Tehran May 6, 1944 Classified Secret Written By Colonel A Ross Distributed to: Polish Minister of State, Cairo Polish Legation, Tehran Polish Civil Delegation Polish Red Cross Tehran British Embassy Tehran One section of this report that I have chosen to send today is on the deportation and Statistics of Poles Deported to USSR The report reads as follows "There is no information in the possession of any other authority than the Soviet Government as to the number of Poles deported in each flight but it is known that the deportation of the 25th ? 30th June 1940 was the largest." Dates of deportation: a. 10th February 1940 b. 13th April 1940 c. 25th ?30th June 1940 d. June 1941 Statistics of Poles Deported to USSR a. In Russia till 1942 evacuated to Persia ( military & Civilians) 114,000 b. Assistance from Polish Embassy as of April 1943 271,000 c. Beyond Embassy's reach or help in Northern Regions 51,000 d. Conscripted in 1940 into the Red Army 100,000 e. Conscripted into labour battalions throughout USSR 75,000 f. Remaining in gulags & concentration camps not covered by amnesty 125,000 g. Persihed during whole period of deportations 221,000 h. Escaped from German occupied territories to USSR 25,000 Total 982,000 There are therefore in the USSR at the present time the following: 982,000 Less died since 1940 -221,000 Less evacuated from USSR -114,000 Total Polish population still in USSR 647,000 The 271,000 above that were receiving assistance from the Polish Embassy were as follow; Men Women Children Total 93,114 96,241 76146 266,501 Plus additional 5,824 who we do not know their domicile. 272,325 The 266,501 is divided as follows: Christian Poles Jewish Poles Other Nationalities 132,183 or 50% 104,602 or 40% 28,716 or 10% Of the 114,00 that were evacuated the breakout is as follows: 1st Evacuation Pahlevi Civilians 12,408 Military 31,189 Total 43,597 2nd Evacuation Civilians 26,094 Military 43,746 Total 69,840 Meshed 2,694 Grand Total 116,131 Julek
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[Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Re: Statistics of Poles Deported to USSR
Are you talking about the 31 page report that I just posted in the Maria M Coyne album. If so what you saw was what I received from Maria. It only contained 2 pages. I have no other information regarding that report. But I googled it and here is what came up. About 399,000 results (0.91 seconds) Search Results Spis uchod?c車w polskich na terenie Meksyku wg stanu w dn ... dlibra.karta.org.pl/dlibra/publication/37082?tab=1 Translate this pageDigital Library of The KARTA Center, Spis uchod?c車w polskich na terenie Meksyku wg stanu w dn. 01.11.1944. Spis Uchod?c車w Polskich Na Terenie Indii. Wed?ug stanu w ... fbc.pionier.net.pl/id/oai:dlibra.karta.org.pl:30908 Translate this pageSpis Uchod?c車w Polskich Na Terenie Indii. ... Is part of: IV/W Spisy i wykazy obywateli polskich represjonowanych przez organa w?adzy sowieckiej w latach ... Lubelskie Korzenie :: Zobacz temat - Spis uchod?c車w polskich lubgens.eu/viewtopic.php?p=7126 Translate this page Jul 1, 2014 - 4 posts - ?3 authorsWitam. Czy kto? z forumowicz車w wie, gdzie mo?na znale?? "Spis uchod?c車w polskich przebywaj?cych na terenie Afryki Wschodniej i Rodezji"? Spis uchod?c車w polskich na terenie Meksyku wg stanu w dn ... www.europeana.eu/.../id_oai_dlibra_karta_org_pl_30... Translate this pageProvenance: Biblioteka Cyfrowa O?rodka KARTA; IV/W/322. Publisher: Delegatura Ministerstwa Pracy i Opieki Spo?ecznej w Meksyku. Identifier:. Polscy uchod?cy na W?grzech w latach 1939-1945 ... https://pl.wikipedia.org/.../Polscy_uc... Translate this page Polish WikipediaPolscy uchod?cy na W?grzech w latach 1939-1945[edytuj] ... Tablica w S車st車f邦rd? po?wi?cona pami?ci oboz車w dla uchod?c車w polskich ... Spis tre?ci. [ukryj]. wypowiedziom ministr車w RP w sprawie uchod?c車w ... - Polska polska.newsweek.pl/list-otwarty-srod... Translate this page Newsweek PolskaNov 18, 2015 - List otwarty ?rodowisk tw車rczych przeciwko wypowiedziom ministr車w rz?du Rzeczpospolitej Polskiej w sprawie uchod?c車w. D?uga lista problem車w ?yj?cych w Polsce uchod?c車w wroclaw.wyborcza.pl/.../1,35771,7367828,Dluga_lista... - Translate this pageD?uga lista problem車w ?yj?cych w Polsce uchod?c車w. Rozmawia?a Magda Piekarska. 15.12.2009 19:55. A A A. Negocjacje ze zbuntowanymi uchod?cami na ... [PDF]Janusz Wr車bel, Uchod?cy polscy ze Zwi?zku Sowieckiego ... pamiec.pl/download/49/34746/UchodzcyPolscyzZSRS.pdf SPIS TRE?CI .... W kilkuletniej epopei polskich uchod?c車w niezwyk﹊e jest i to, ?e cho- ... Zagadnieniu polskich uchod?c車w ze Zwi?zku Sowieckiego po?wi?-. Wybrane zosta?y polskie o?rodki, do kt車rych trafi? uchod?cy ... www.wprost.pl/.../Wybrane-zostaly-polskie-osr... Translate this page WprostOct 2, 2015 - Cudzoziemcy z Syrii i Erytrei b?d? trafia? na badania do o?rodk車w recepcyjnych w Podkowie Le?nej i Bia?ej Podlaskiej. Mowa o siedmiu ... Polska przyjmie uchod?c車w. Ile to b?dzie kosztowa?o? | Z ... tvn24bis.pl/.../polska-przyjmie-uchodzcow-ile-to-bedz... Translate this pageMay 31, 2015 - Polska przyjmie uchod?c車w uciekaj?cych z Syrii. Na pomoc czekaj? kolejne osoby z Afryki, ale Polacy nie chc? ich nad Wis??, bo boj? si?, ?e ... 12345678910Next
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Statistics of Poles Deported to USSR
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To ALL Report M.E.R.R.A. c/o British Embassy Tehran May 6, 1944 Classified Secret Written By Colonel A Ross Distributed to: Polish Minister of State, Cairo Polish Legation, Tehran Polish Civil Delegation Polish Red Cross Tehran British Embassy Tehran One section of this report that I have chosen to send today is on the deportation and Statistics of Poles Deported to USSR The report reads as follows "There is no information in the possession of any other authority than the Soviet Government as to the number of Poles deported in each flight but it is known that the deportation of the 25th 每 30th June 1940 was the largest." Dates of deportation: a. 10th February 1940 b. 13th April 1940 c. 25th 每30th June 1940 d. June 1941 Statistics of Poles Deported to USSR a. In Russia till 1942 evacuated to Persia ( military & Civilians) 114,000 b. Assistance from Polish Embassy as of April 1943 271,000 c. Beyond Embassy's reach or help in Northern Regions 51,000 d. Conscripted in 1940 into the Red Army 100,000 e. Conscripted into labour battalions throughout USSR 75,000 f. Remaining in gulags & concentration camps not covered by amnesty 125,000 g. Persihed during whole period of deportations 221,000 h. Escaped from German occupied territories to USSR 25,000 Total 982,000 There are therefore in the USSR at the present time the following: 982,000 Less died since 1940 -221,000 Less evacuated from USSR -114,000 Total Polish population still in USSR 647,000 The 271,000 above that were receiving assistance from the Polish Embassy were as follow; Men Women Children Total 93,114 96,241 76146 266,501 Plus additional 5,824 who we do not know their domicile. 272,325 The 266,501 is divided as follows: Christian Poles Jewish Poles Other Nationalities 132,183 or 50% 104,602 or 40% 28,716 or 10% Of the 114,00 that were evacuated the breakout is as follows: 1st Evacuation Pahlevi Civilians 12,408 Military 31,189 Total 43,597 2nd Evacuation Civilians 26,094 Military 43,746 Total 69,840 Meshed 2,694 Grand Total 116,131 Julek
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[Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] easter / wielkanoc
Vladek, Ronny, thank you for your wishes and wishing everyone, Blessed Easter 2016, Lenarda, Sydney, Australia
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easter / wielkanoc
Dear Friends / Drodzy Przyjaciele, Happy Easter. Radosnych Swiat Wielkanocnych. The time of renewal is here. Nastal czas odnowy. Peace & love, Vladek & Ronny http://www.polishfilmla.org/
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Research---Starzak
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Krys, it is an absolute coincidence! I looked at a site about your posiolek and on the Russian site someone just posted a reference --I mean posted today regarding this particular place. It is at a site ref below. http://uznal.org/book_of_memory.php?bukva=14&name=17&surname=124&repression=1 this refers to someone who was there and was rehabilitated. There are several Polish names in the Memory Book for this oblast. I am not sure if your Mom remembers any other names in that locality, but it is Verkhnyaya Klyuchanka , Dobryansky rayon, Permskaya oblast;and there is a very good map of a forest place of Klyuchy --posiolek. One has to be certain of this location and this can only be so if your Mom might have mentioned another village nearby. antoni530 antoni530
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[Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Re: Eddie:- a needle in a haystack
Eve-Marie, I don't know if it could be good idea, but you can try this one name also. I was thinking about very popular Polish family name - W?odarczyk, which could be change later by your father, but I've found only one Edward W?odarczyk in the list published on Kresy-Siberia portal http://kresy-siberia.org/hom/element/evacuation-from-ussr-to-persiairan-in-1942/polska-walczaca/english-poles-evacuated-from-russia-to-persia-in-1942/?lang=pl and there are at least two things that don't match - this Edward was born in 1934 so he wouldn't be a 'brother' for your father who was born in 1927 and, he was evacuated to Africa so he didn't die. Best Regards Pawel Kossowski W dniu .03.2016 o 23:28 stefan.wisniowski@... [Kresy-Siberia] pisze: -- U?ywam klienta poczty Opera Mail: http://www.opera.com/mail/
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Chamot
they're here http://pism.co.uk/Docs/SpisRodzin.pdf they were stuck in Kazakhstan in 1944 Tim Bucknall Congleton
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tracing Marcin Chamot / Chamut
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Hello again! This time I'm trying to establish the fate of my grandfather, Marcin Chamot / Chamut who apparently disappeared before the family got to south Kazahhstan (via Vorkuta / Archnagelsk). I have 4 records now which first show him as an osadnik in Wolyn with the rank of "bombardier", then a deportation record for early March of 1940 which show him, his wife Anna, and his 3 sons:- Bolek, Jozef, and Henry and destined for northeast Archangelsk oblast (although apparently they actually went to Vorkuta instead) followed by another record which shows the family in southern Kazakhstan but now Marcin and Anna are missing and replaced by Maria, and finally another record, apparently based on information Bolek gave when enlisting in Ander's Army which shows Anna, Maria, Jozef, and Henryk with Bolek in the army and Marcin still missing. It appears that grandfather Marcin either was diverted along the way or simply died somewhere along the way but how I can find more information about his exact fate? One possibility is that he was arrested and sent instead to Katyn since after the initial invasion they did arrest some retired Polish officers and sergeants although I'm not sure if Marcin would qualify. It depends on what a "bombardier" was:- apparently this was a title for an artillery sergeant who would have directed a small artillery crew and been responsible for the nitty-gritty of moving them, positioning them, finding supplies for them, and firing the guns at the targets designated by an officer but it also might simply be a name assigned to any ordinary soldier who formed part of an artillery crew (ie what we would call a "gunner"). How can I establish if grandfather was sent to Katyn? Another possibility was that he was diverted to the Far East to Magadan or to Kolyma and is there a way to check on that? If he was not diverted to those places then it's most likely he died somewhere along the way between Kowel, Vorkuta / Archangelsk, south Kazakhstan, Tadzhikistan, and Ashgabat / Krasnovodsk:- are there any additional records which could offer more information about that possibility? Thank you.
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[Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] tracing Marcin Chamot / Chamut
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Hello Eve, I suppose you can find everything about your grandpa here http://www.sybiracy.wckp.lodz.pl/jdzyra.html She writes about her neighbour Marcin Chamut of Wiktor車wka, what suits to the data I don't know if you know Polish, but in short this is the story described by J車zefa Dzyra for her grandchildren. It looks like she new your grandpa (just put Ctrl+F and enter Marcin Chamut). She writes that your grandpa is buried at the cemetery in Khanaqin. Currently this is the city in Iraq, where the war cemetery was (is?) You can find some pics of the cemetery in Internet because some time ago Polish Embassy from Baghdad was taking care about the place. Best Regards Pawel Kossowski W dniu .03.2016 o 19:05 eve.marie123@... [Kresy-Siberia] pisze: -- U?ywam klienta poczty Opera Mail: http://www.opera.com/mail/
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Eddie:- a needle in a haystack
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Hello again and again and once again! This time I want to trace "Eddie" and this one is a real mystery. Eddie was my father's best-friend-forever whom he met somewhere after leaving his family in north Tadzhikstan and they became essentially adopted brothers. I know he was Polish and his last name apparently was either "W?車dczyk" or "?車dczyk" or possibly "W車dczyk" (although that variation looks a little bit strange even to a Pole) and Eddie was apparently also a deported kresowiak and possibly also an osadnik child. They apparently did attend a Polish military school together in the Middle East, and possibly joined the Polish army together but at some point Eddie accidentally connected with or met an explosive device (either a grenade or a landmine) and was killed when it suddenly and unexpectedly exploded or possibly he simply took a direct hit from an incoming German shell somewhere. I also know that Polish boys in military schools did sometimes steal munitions and play with them and sometimes did get hurt or killed when these things suddenly exploded so perhaps this was an unfortunate instance of such an event. This actually happened within sight of my father and he was very distraught (to put it mildly) and kept talking about Eddie long after the event and he actually named my younger brother after him and continued to have nightmares about him well into the 1950s. I actually did not learn about Eddie until about 2001 shortly before my mother's death when she casually told me about Eddie one night while we were watching the evening news on television:- my mother would routinely simply start talking about things like this that happened long ago without any prompting from me when we were alone, I was her "sounding board" and "psychotherapist" from early childhood in this way. After my father died in 1974 she was the only one who knew anything about Eddie until she told me in 2001 and now I'm the only one who knows anything about him (even my brother does not know how he got his own name) and I think this was my mother's gentle way of ensuring that Eddie did not disappear completely by being totally forgotten:- "Nie umieraj? czy kt車rych nie zapominamy." and I think she just wanted to keep him alive in memory by passing this information to me although she was a bit hazy on details and could not answer more detailed questions since this was all second-hand information she had gotten from my father ~50 years before. So, how do I find documentary information about Eddie to verify and demonstrate that he actually existed and perhaps to trace his family as well. Eddie was young and did not live long and obviously could not accomplish much in his young life and although many Polish refugee children have disappeared into oblivion Eddie is my special responsibility and his life was worth as much as anyone else's and I would like to do what I can to reclaim his memory and keep him from also disappearing into oblivion. I did try to contact the Polish Red Cross and their tracing service a few years ago about Eddie but apparently since I live in Canada I must first go through the Canadian Red Cross and they are totally unsympathetic and refused to help me:- it was no good trying to explain to them that this was a "Polish" thing, they could care less. Perhaps someone here can help me trace Eddie even though he is very much at this point a small "needle" in a very large "haystack" and I have so little factual information about him but I am absolutely certain he did exist so who was he, where did he come from, and what were the exact circumstances of his untimely death? Thank you.
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Ander's Army organization in USSR
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I'm trying to get a copy of "Trail of Hope" from the local library (it's apparently quite popular!) to learn a bit about how the Ander's Army was organized in the USSR so I can trace my family's movements a bit better but perhaps someone here could help me. Where were the enlistment stations and where were the crossing points from the USSR to Persia and how did people get to those places? I read about Krasnovodsk as a departure point with many people boarding ships to go to Persia and that seems to be the main point of departure. However another crossing point was Ashkhabad (Ashgabat) which is about 50 km north of the Persian border on the Trans-Caspian Railway with people being trucked south to the border. However there is also a another point about 200 km east of Ashgabat where the railway comes within a few kilometres of the border and people could have walked over after they left the train (and keeping in mind that in those days of steam locomotives the trains would need to stop frequently to pick water and coal and also they would be travelling quite slowly even when moving so it might be practical to just jump off. How did people get to Krasnovodsk?:- apparently the only practical way to get there for large numbers of people is by the Trans-Caspian line which is really a round-about route from western Russia and northern Kazakhstan and in that case why would they not simply cross at Ashgabat (since they need to go through that town anyway) or even just get off the train to the east and walk a few kilometres south across the border? My uncle Bolek's family was at that point located in northern Tajikistan and he apparently went to enlist and left the family behind until he was enlisted and then could send for them to join him but apparently the door suddenly shut and he got out just in time but his family got left behind. I know also that he suffered a spell of dysentery along the way to the enlistment station and barely survived but it really disoriented him and left him with only hazy memories of what happened before. Where would have been the most likely place for him to enlist if he traveled on the TC line west to either Ashgabat or Krasnovodsk? When he got there according to the records kept by the Polish military attache in Moscow he was the only one enlisting and he recorded his kinfolk left behind in Tadzhikistan who were Anna (his mother apparently), Maria (possibly a sister of Anna or a cousin of Marcin), and his younger brothers Jozef and Henryk (my father) but his father Marcin by then was no longer showing in the records so he must have been diverted or died along the way before then. After he left to enlist apparently little Henryk then decided to simply leave for Persia on his own and apparently without papers or permission or whatever so he would have been "riding the rails" and stealing rides on the TC line when no one was looking. Many single Polish children were doing this and apparently many crossed at Krasnovodsk but did any cross elsewhere such as Ashgabat or simply get off the train east of there and walk across the border on their own? I know my father went through Samarkand, etc and apparently on the TC line because he told me so himself when I was in my early teens (although I just could not make sense out of his story at that point) and he also told my mother (before I was born) that he had reached Persia before his brother so that would seem to indicate that he crossed at Ashgabat or perhaps even just jumped off the train further east and simply walked across and sneaked through the border area (which would have been lightly guarded in that region anyway). Could anyone offer any observations on where my uncle and father probably crossed the border into Persia? Thank you.
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[Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Marcin Chamot
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Dear Eve-Marie, welcome home, we have all been there and are struggling with information and research to understand and bring forth the truth to the World about the hidden history of &THE LOST TRIBE*. My own parents, father from Warsaw Calvary captured by Germans 1939 and my mother from a family of Nobility, trapped and brutalized by Soviets on other side of Riga Treaty Line 1921, came to Australia in 1949 as Indentured Workers, Displaced Persons, under a two (2) year work Contract to repay their travel expenses, as Australia was part of the British Commonwealth and three (3) years later, took Oath of Citizenship to Australia as New Australians, allowing them to be employed and their children find jobs as Naturalized Australians. They never forgot about Poland, but knew they could never go back while Poland was under Communism, creating a LITTLE POLAND here in Australia, which we as children hated because the customs and way of life of the locals was so much different and we were ostracized if we were WOGS. They had to learn the language, take what jobs were given to them, laughed at by the locals as WOGS, no Polish Mass, no Polish Community, only the once a month Polish Dance in a run down hall, so the locals in a backward Bush Town, could get together and teach their children something of the Polish culture, food, music and St. Nicholas. Outside this we had to fend for ourselves, going to Aussie schools, some went to Polish Saturday School, if the parents could afford it, but you were outsider to the Australian Community if you did go, with many denying their Polish Heritage, even changing their names, just to get employment. My parents never spoke of the horrors to us children, protecting us from the nightmares, which we had anyway, because our parents, mainly DAD watched War Films and mother avoided them, but she herself would have nightmares every night. We grew up not belonging to our own kind and not belonging to the Community of Australia. Truly I was lost and searching, not knowing what my Heritage was, who my Ancestors were, felt like an orphan on this Planet, until I started research, found Kresy-Siberia, a people the same as myself and finally felt at home. Now for the first time in my life, I am comfortable with myself and proud of my Heritage and have been open with my children, who found this to be a huge strength and comfort, explaining all the hurts and craziness in the family and giving them courage to face the hardships and excel in all they do, as I have noticed all other children of Exiles, whose parents, explained and communicated honestly with their children have also excelled in Education and quality of life. They have a bravery, motivation, courage, unique to Kresy Survivors and not understood by the local community. We are proud of who we are and have no need to hide anymore. In this Kresy-Siberia Group, you will find the warmest and most helpful people, assisting you with everything that is possible and actually caring, because we have all been there and I am personally thankful for the Group, when they held my hand, during my first steps of painful discovery. Warmest regards Lenarda, Sydney, Australia Sent: Sunday, 14 February 2016 8:36 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Marcin Chamot Feb 12/16 from:- Eve-Marie Galka <mailto:eve.marie123@...> eve.marie123@... to:- Kresy-Siberia Group <mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...> Kresy-Siberia@... re:- Marcin Chamot Hello again, sorry I've been away for a few days. First, thank you to everyone for all the help, I know a lot more about my family's history this week than I did last week! Second, I really dislike Yahoo (both mail and groups), it is so difficult and temperamental to use, plus there seems to be a cold-war between Yahoo and Google which does not help! (However if you use the Firefox platform and then select Yahoo as your browser it helps a lot.) Third, please do not post any more in my Introduction thread, I've decided to split my research into a separate thread for my grandfather, Marcin, and my father, Henryk. Also for now I wo
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