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I have never known where my parents were sent to in Russia and this
week low and behold I was looking at old pictures and found a little
one of my Mom ..flipped it over and on the back was written ...
Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where
that is or was in Russia..I would love to be able to pin point it on
a map. Thanks


 

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Thank you Stefan .....yes those certificates would be my father's and mom's cousin but what do I have to do to obtain them ???
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Were your parents deported to the same place? ?Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact ?translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? ?With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? ?It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). ?Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "zembocin"
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.


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Krystyna

If you go to http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm and plug in KOLBISZOWA and select Russia you get over 20 potential candidates. ?However, these 2 seem more likely given the spelling and pronounciation:

KOLBYCHEVO ???54.24 N. 127.11 E. ?Russia ????3286.2 miles NE of Moscow
KOLBYSHEVO ? ???56.27 N. 74.40 ?E. ?Russia ????1411.5 miles ENE of Moscow

and maybe CHALBYSHEVO ???58.04 N. 91.54 E ????Russia ????1998.1 miles ENE of Moscow

Did your family have any documents from the British or Polish forces that might narrow down the region?

On the other hand, by July 1942 she would have already been released under the 1941 Sikorski-Majsky ?agreement and this could well have been a place in transit. ?For clues on the original holding place, it is worth looking for other clues. ?

Were your parents deported to the same place? ?Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact ?translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? ?With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? ?It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). ?Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski


From: "zembocin"
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.


 

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Hi Stefan!
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I'd already referred Krystyna to the ShtetlSeeker, but I read your response to her and was interested in the comments you made about the Hoover Institution holding Amnesty Certificates. Do they have these for most families/individuals who were deported to, and released from, Siberia? I've no idea where my father's family were sent to. Perhaps these could tell me and how can?copies be obtained.
?
Regards, Ken Fedzin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Wisniowski [mailto:swisniowski@...]
Sent: 01 November 2003 11:02
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Looking for...

Krystyna

If you go to http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm and plug in KOLBISZOWA and select Russia you get over 20 potential candidates. ?However, these 2 seem more likely given the spelling and pronounciation:

KOLBYCHEVO ???54.24 N. 127.11 E. ?Russia ????3286.2 miles NE of Moscow
KOLBYSHEVO ? ???56.27 N. 74.40 ?E. ?Russia ????1411.5 miles ENE of Moscow

and maybe CHALBYSHEVO ???58.04 N. 91.54 E ????Russia ????1998.1 miles ENE of Moscow

Did your family have any documents from the British or Polish forces that might narrow down the region?

On the other hand, by July 1942 she would have already been released under the 1941 Sikorski-Majsky ?agreement and this could well have been a place in transit. ?For clues on the original holding place, it is worth looking for other clues. ?

Were your parents deported to the same place? ?Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact ?translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? ?With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? ?It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). ?Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "zembocin"
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.


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deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two."
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Stefan Wisniowski
 

Hi Ken,
Good news: ?full info available at http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/mainref.html#r3
Bad news: Only 13,500 certificates and 12,000 written testimonies (some overlapping). ?I do not believe they have any on "Fedzin"

Stefan WIsniowski


From: "Ken Fedzin"
[...] interested in the comments you made about the Hoover Institution holding Amnesty Certificates. Do they have these for most families/individuals who were deported to, and released from, Siberia? I've no idea where my father's family were sent to. Perhaps these could tell me and how can copies be obtained.
Regards, Ken Fedzin.


 

What is an amnesty certificate? My father goes under the name Danielczuk but I believe the name might be Danilczyk



Bye 4 now Hela.





From: "Krystyna Freiburger" <krystynafreiburger@...>
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
To: <Kresy-Siberia@...>
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Looking for...
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:47:45 -0500

Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Looking for...Thank you Stefan .....yes those certificates would be my father's and mom's cousin but what do I have to do to obtain them ???




Were your parents deported to the same place? Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski


From: "zembocin" <krystynafreiburger@...>
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.


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