Hello Peter

Where are you in UK?

You will find what you need to and you will learn more because that has

the one thing which drives any of us, to find out about ourselves and this
we do by finding out and understanding about outr parents and

Since I have hd the honoour and privilege to belong to this group I have

times been ashamed at my behaviour towards my parents and their generation
in the past, but i am so lucky that I now understand them more and feel so
humbled that and so grateful that they are my parents. I am so lucky too
that I can still have time with them and take advantage of my new
understanding of them and maybe redress and compesate them for any hurt i
might have caused them through my own ignorance and behaviour.
The one thing you will find we all have in common too is the reluctance on
the part of our parents or grandparents to discuss these things. There

many theories why this is so.

Good luck
Never lose faith




Bye 4 now Hela.

From: "Peter Grabowski" <peter@...>
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
To: <Kresy-Siberia@...>
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Introduction
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:08:54 +0100

Hi everyone.

My father never talked about the war or even his family or his child

As far his new family was concerned he was a Pole who fought against the
Germans who invaded his homeland and who ended up in England to start a

life. The impression we got from my father was that the past was too
painfull for him to talk about.

It wasn't until just before he died in 1997 at the age of 77 that I

to get him to talk a little about his past and he didn't tell me that

His parents were Polish - Bernard & Maria (nee Brzusinska) Grabowski they
lived in Odessa. His father was a shoe maker and he had two younger
brothers - Piotr and Leonard. He wrote down an address in Odessa where he
lived and I believe that this address still exists.

When he died I had to sort out his affairs and I found a black box
(apparently he stole this from a German - it has a swastika imprinted on
it) in the box I found about 30 photographs mainly connected to his

through the war years. One is a photograph of the Polish army unit I
believe that he fought in - Destazowana Kompani Saperow. I have obtained
his army records from the 24th August 1942 when he served with the Polish
forces under British Command. In these records it states; " Together with
the Polish Army he crossed the Soviety-Iranian frontier, was evacuated to
Iran, thereby came under British Command with effect from 15th August
1942". Via Iraq was transferred to Palestine. and then on to Italy

He fought at Monte Cassino and I am proud to have in my possession his
"Cross for Monte Cassino".

On the 8th November my Polish friend Marian Rabczak has agreed to go with
me to Odessa to start my quest to try and find out anything I can about

father and his family. I am going to start by simply knocking on the door
of the address my father gave me - I have to start somewhere!

I did not know anything about the Kresy-Siberia group and its reason for
being in existence but I am pretty sure that I am about to learn a lot
more.

Peter Grabowski

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Dear Peter, I wish you good luck in your searches, I only found out my

story from astranged family after he died so I empathise with your need to
find out the past. Apparently a brief story of my father leaving poland

in find a fortune the tv programme some years ago, as his last wish was

his family home to be found, a lot of information was gleaned from

on a door in a last ditch effort by the researchers and the gentleman that
answered apparently worked for my grandfather and was able to pin point

land for them. They were also introduced to chilhood friends who were not
deported (for whatever reason). I hope that you too find the right
door/people and the information you seek. Good luck in your travels.

From: "Peter Grabowski" <peter@...>
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
To: <Kresy-Siberia@...>
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Introduction
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:08:54 +0100

Hi everyone.

My father never talked about the war or even his family or his child

As far his new family was concerned he was a Pole who fought against the
Germans who invaded his homeland and who ended up in England to start a

life. The impression we got from my father was that the past was too
painfull for him to talk about.

It wasn't until just before he died in 1997 at the age of 77 that I

to get him to talk a little about his past and he didn't tell me that

His parents were Polish - Bernard & Maria (nee Brzusinska) Grabowski they
lived in Odessa. His father was a shoe maker and he had two younger
brothers - Piotr and Leonard. He wrote down an address in Odessa where he
lived and I believe that this address still exists.

When he died I had to sort out his affairs and I found a black box
(apparently he stole this from a German - it has a swastika imprinted on
it) in the box I found about 30 photographs mainly connected to his

through the war years. One is a photograph of the Polish army unit I
believe that he fought in - Destazowana Kompani Saperow. I have obtained
his army records from the 24th August 1942 when he served with the Polish
forces under British Command. In these records it states; " Together with
the Polish Army he crossed the Soviety-Iranian frontier, was evacuated to
Iran, thereby came under British Command with effect from 15th August
1942". Via Iraq was transferred to Palestine. and then on to Italy

He fought at Monte Cassino and I am proud to have in my possession his
"Cross for Monte Cassino".

On the 8th November my Polish friend Marian Rabczak has agreed to go with
me to Odessa to start my quest to try and find out anything I can about

father and his family. I am going to start by simply knocking on the door
of the address my father gave me - I have to start somewhere!

I did not know anything about the Kresy-Siberia group and its reason for
being in existence but I am pretty sure that I am about to learn a lot
more.

Peter Grabowski

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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Grabowski [mailto:peter@...]
Sent: 25 October 2004 22:31
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Introduction

Helena,

Thanks for the message - I will let you have details of any progress I make.

I live in Nottingham

Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Helena Danielczuk"
To:
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Kresy-Siberia] Introduction


>
> Hello Peter
>
> Where are you in UK?
>
> You will find what you need to and you will learn more because that has
been
> the one thing which drives any of us, to find out about ourselves and this
> we do by finding out and understanding about outr parents and
grandparents.
>
> Since I have hd the honoour and privilege to belong to this group I have
at
> times been ashamed at my behaviour towards my parents and their generation
> in the past, but i am so lucky that I now understand them more and feel so
> humbled that and so grateful that they are my parents. I am so lucky too
> that I can still have time with them and take advantage of my new
> understanding of them and maybe redress and compesate them for any hurt i
> might have caused them through my own ignorance and behaviour.
> The one thing you will find we all have in common too is the reluctance on
> the part of our parents or grandparents to discuss these things.? There
are
> many theories why this is so.
>
> Good luck
> Never lose faith
>
>
>
>
> Bye 4 now Hela.
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Peter Grabowski" <peter@...>
> >Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
> >To:
> >Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Introduction
> >Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:08:54 +0100
> >
> >Hi everyone.
> >
> >My father never talked about the war or even his family or his child
hood.
> >As far his new family was concerned he was a Pole who fought against the
> >Germans who invaded his homeland and who ended up in England to start a
new
> >life. The impression we got from my father was that the past was too
> >painfull for him to talk about.
> >
> >It wasn't until just before he died in 1997 at the age of 77 that I
managed
> >to get him to talk a little about his past and he didn't tell me that
much.
> >
> >His parents were Polish - Bernard & Maria (nee Brzusinska) Grabowski they
> >lived in Odessa. His father was a shoe maker and he had two younger
> >brothers - Piotr and Leonard. He wrote down an address in Odessa where he
> >lived and I believe that this address still exists.
> >
> >When he died I had to sort out his affairs and I found a black box
> >(apparently he stole this from a German - it has a swastika imprinted on
> >it) in the box I found about 30 photographs mainly connected to his
travels
> >through the war years. One is a photograph of the Polish army unit I
> >believe that he fought in - Destazowana Kompani Saperow. I have obtained
> >his army records from the 24th August 1942 when he served with the Polish
> >forces under British Command. In these records it states; " Together with
> >the Polish Army he crossed the Soviety-Iranian frontier, was evacuated to
> >Iran, thereby came under British Command with effect from 15th August
> >1942". Via Iraq was transferred to Palestine. and then on to Italy
> >
> >He fought at Monte Cassino and I am proud to have in my possession his
> >"Cross for Monte Cassino".
> >
> >On the 8th November my Polish friend Marian Rabczak has agreed to go with
> >me to Odessa to start my quest to try and find out anything I can about
my
> >father and his family. I am going to start by simply knocking on the door
> >of the address my father gave me - I have to start somewhere!
> >
> >I did not know anything about the Kresy-Siberia group and its reason for
> >being in existence but I am pretty sure that I am about to learn a lot
> >more.
> >
> >Peter Grabowski
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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>? "Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish
citizens
>? deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two."
>
*
>? Discussion site :
>? Gallery (photos, documents) :
>? Film and info :
>
*
>? To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail
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----- Original Message -----

From: Linder Carole Ladbrooke

To: Kresy-Siberia@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:27 PM

Subject: RE: [Kresy-Siberia] Introduction

Helo Peter,

?

I'm Linder and I live in Long Eaton, Nottingham. The group get's closer. Good luck in your searches

Linder

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Grabowski [mailto:peter@...]
Sent: 25 October 2004 22:31
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Introduction

Helena,

Thanks for the message - I will let you have details of any progress I make.

I live in Nottingham

Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Helena Danielczuk"
To:
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Kresy-Siberia] Introduction


>
> Hello Peter
>
> Where are you in UK?
>
> You will find what you need to and you will learn more because that has
been
> the one thing which drives any of us, to find out about ourselves and this
> we do by finding out and understanding about outr parents and
grandparents.
>
> Since I have hd the honoour and privilege to belong to this group I have
at
> times been ashamed at my behaviour towards my parents and their generation
> in the past, but i am so lucky that I now understand them more and feel so
> humbled that and so grateful that they are my parents. I am so lucky too
> that I can still have time with them and take advantage of my new
> understanding of them and maybe redress and compesate them for any hurt i
> might have caused them through my own ignorance and behaviour.
> The one thing you will find we all have in common too is the reluctance on
> the part of our parents or grandparents to discuss these things.? There
are
> many theories why this is so.
>
> Good luck
> Never lose faith
>
>
>
>
> Bye 4 now Hela.
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Peter Grabowski"
> >Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
> >To:
> >Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Introduction
> >Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:08:54 +0100
> >
> >Hi everyone.
> >
> >My father never talked about the war or even his family or his child
hood.
> >As far his new family was concerned he was a Pole who fought against the
> >Germans who invaded his homeland and who ended up in England to start a
new
> >life. The impression we got from my father was that the past was too
> >painfull for him to talk about.
> >
> >It wasn't until just before he died in 1997 at the age of 77 that I
managed
> >to get him to talk a little about his past and he didn't tell me that
much.
> >
> >His parents were Polish - Bernard & Maria (nee Brzusinska) Grabowski they
> >lived in Odessa. His father was a shoe maker and he had two younger
> >brothers - Piotr and Leonard. He wrote down an address in Odessa where he
> >lived and I believe that this address still exists.
> >
> >When he died I had to sort out his affairs and I found a black box
> >(apparently he stole this from a German - it has a swastika imprinted on
> >it) in the box I found about 30 photographs mainly connected to his
travels
> >through the war years. One is a photograph of the Polish army unit I
> >believe that he fought in - Destazowana Kompani Saperow. I have obtained
> >his army records from the 24th August 1942 when he served with the Polish
> >forces under British Command. In these records it states; " Together with
> >the Polish Army he crossed the Soviety-Iranian frontier, was evacuated to
> >Iran, thereby came under British Command with effect from 15th August
> >1942". Via Iraq was transferred to Palestine. and then on to Italy
> >
> >He fought at Monte Cassino and I am proud to have in my possession his
> >"Cross for Monte Cassino".
> >
> >On the 8th November my Polish friend Marian Rabczak has agreed to go with
> >me to Odessa to start my quest to try and find out anything I can about
my
> >father and his family. I am going to start by simply knocking on the door
> >of the address my father gave me - I have to start somewhere!
> >
> >I did not know anything about the Kresy-Siberia group and its reason for
> >being in existence but I am pretty sure that I am about to learn a lot
> >more.
> >
> >Peter Grabowski
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>? "Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish
citizens
>? deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two."
>
*
>? Discussion site :
>? Gallery (photos, documents) :
>? Film and info :
>
*
>? To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail
>? saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to:
>? Kresy-Siberia-owner@...
>
*
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Peter,

I wish you the best of luck in your quest to find some of your
ancestry. You are being noble. My dad was also in Polish Army. I
will try to find what division. Regards, Tereska

Hi everyone.

My father never talked about the war or even his family or his

child hood. As far his new family was concerned he was a Pole who
fought against the Germans who invaded his homeland and who ended up
in England to start a new life. The impression we got from my father
was that the past was too painfull for him to talk about.

It wasn't until just before he died in 1997 at the age of 77 that

I managed to get him to talk a little about his past and he didn't
tell me that much.

His parents were Polish - Bernard & Maria (nee Brzusinska)

Grabowski they lived in Odessa. His father was a shoe maker and he
had two younger brothers - Piotr and Leonard. He wrote down an
address in Odessa where he lived and I believe that this address
still exists.

When he died I had to sort out his affairs and I found a black box

(apparently he stole this from a German - it has a swastika
imprinted on it) in the box I found about 30 photographs mainly
connected to his travels through the war years. One is a photograph
of the Polish army unit I believe that he fought in - Destazowana
Kompani Saperow. I have obtained his army records from the 24th
August 1942 when he served with the Polish forces under British
Command. In these records it states; " Together with the Polish Army
he crossed the Soviety-Iranian frontier, was evacuated to Iran,
thereby came under British Command with effect from 15th August
1942". Via Iraq was transferred to Palestine. and then on to Italy

He fought at Monte Cassino and I am proud to have in my possession

his "Cross for Monte Cassino".

On the 8th November my Polish friend Marian Rabczak has agreed to

go with me to Odessa to start my quest to try and find out anything
I can about my father and his family. I am going to start by simply
knocking on the door of the address my father gave me - I have to
start somewhere!

I did not know anything about the Kresy-Siberia group and its

reason for being in existence but I am pretty sure that I am about
to learn a lot more.

Peter Grabowski

KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION
"Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish

deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two."

Discussion site :
Gallery (photos, documents) :
Film and info :

To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail
saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to:
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