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Film......................slightly off topic


 

Last night ITV2 showed the SS in Britain, about the 14th SS "Galizien"
division
I'm still amazed that in spite of all the evidence presented the author M.
Melnyk
and the "others" are still denying and disputing the facts.
There were German documents that showed the divisions whereabouts and they
are adamant that
those documents are wrong. I suggest that if others can watch it they do as
it shows the Ukrainian Nationalist's
mentality to insist that they are innocent of the crimes, they've even
managed to persuade their
children that they were the victims

I have posed this question to M. Melnyk, If you state that you're
Ukrainians fighting for a free Ukraine
and despise the Poles and all that they stand for. Also you have never
acknowledged the territory
being Polish, why then upon your surrender to the British did you all pass
yourselves as Polish citizens.

I'm awaiting his reply.



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I
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Paul,?
Some of my relatives suffered at the hands of the Ukranians, so
I too would be interested in hearing Mr. Melnyk's reply, please keep
us posted. (if and when you hear from him).

Elizabeth,
Have a question for you as well, How did your mom end up in Germany?
My folks were from the Kresy region and were taken by the Nazis,
am interested in hearing from others who have a similar story....
thanks janie :-)


Elizabeth
 

Plus ca change Paul.
Early 80's met a 30-year-old German on a Greek
island. I sat for several hours listening to his version
of WW2 (i.e. the 6 million odd people who perished in
the gas chambers was a figment of everyone's imagination..)
At the end of the monologue I quietly
explained I didn't agree with him, nor did many
historians..... The only thing that shut him up was when
I told him my own mother had been in Dachau.

Did you by any chance record the documentary?
I can't get ITV over here.
Elizabeth

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To: <kresy-siberia@...>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:16 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Film......................slightly off topic


Last night ITV2 showed the SS in Britain, about the 14th SS "Galizien"
division
I'm still amazed that in spite of all the evidence presented the author M.
Melnyk
and the "others" are still denying and disputing the facts.
There were German documents that showed the divisions whereabouts and they
are adamant that
those documents are wrong. I suggest that if others can watch it they do
as
it shows the Ukrainian Nationalist's
mentality to insist that they are innocent of the crimes, they've even
managed to persuade their
children that they were the victims

I have posed this question to M. Melnyk, If you state that you're
Ukrainians fighting for a free Ukraine
and despise the Poles and all that they stand for. Also you have never
acknowledged the territory
being Polish, why then upon your surrender to the British did you all pass
yourselves as Polish citizens.

I'm awaiting his reply.



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Hi I woulkd like to pass on information about Stowarzyszenie Wspolnota Polska
active in Poland under patronage of the Senat. They can answer all sorts of
questions even about Dom Dziecka. Their address is:
. Their e mail:
wspolnota@.... Ltes ask them about Dom Dziecka in
Pilawa Gorna.
Wanda.


 

Elizabeth

Unfortunately when I pressed the record button I found out that my video isn't tuned into Sky Tv
but I'm in the process of obtaining a copy, when I do I'll let you know and if you would like a copy
I'll make you one

Paul

At 14:00 12/10/2001 +0100, you wrote:
Plus ca change Paul.
Early 80's met a 30-year-old German on a Greek
island.? I sat for several hours listening to his version
of WW2 (i.e. the 6 million odd people who perished in
the gas chambers was a figment of everyone's imagination..)
At the end of the monologue I quietly
explained I didn't agree with him, nor did many
historians.....? The only thing that shut him up was when
I told him my own mother had been in Dachau.

Did you by any chance record the documentary?
I can't get ITV over here.
Elizabeth
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Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Film......................slightly off topic


> Last night ITV2 showed the SS in Britain, about the 14th SS "Galizien"
> division
> I'm still amazed that in spite of all the evidence presented the author M.
> Melnyk
> and the "others" are still denying and disputing the facts.
> There were German documents that showed the divisions whereabouts and they
> are adamant that
> those documents are wrong. I suggest that if others can watch it they do
as
> it shows the Ukrainian Nationalist's
> mentality to insist that they are innocent of the crimes, they've even
> managed to persuade their
> children that they were the victims
>
> I have posed this question to M. Melnyk, If you state that you're
> Ukrainians fighting for a free Ukraine
> and despise the Poles and all that they stand for. Also you have never
> acknowledged the territory
> being Polish, why then upon your surrender to the British did you all pass
> yourselves as Polish citizens.
>
> I'm awaiting his reply.
>
>
>
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Janie

When the film was originally shown over here I posed some questions to M.
Melnyk via the journalist
who assured me that they were passed on. That was about 3-4 months ago.
Those questions had
been specific and they did include my email address. To this day I haven't
had a reply from M. Melnyk
so when the film was re shown I re submitted my questions with a few
additions. Looking back on the
"reply" history I somehow doubt that I will receive one, but if by a
miracle I do I'll keep you posted

I have however received some other emails from Canada informing me that
it's all lies
and it never happened, and telling me to leave it alone

Gets you thinking why?

Paul




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I.

Paul,
Some of my relatives suffered at the hands of the Ukranians, so
I too would be interested in hearing Mr. Melnyk's reply, please keep
us posted. (if and when you hear from him).

Elizabeth,
Have a question for you as well, How did your mom end up in Germany?
My folks were from the Kresy region and were taken by the Nazis,
am interested in hearing from others who have a similar story....
thanks janie :-)


Elizabeth
 

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Paul :
Would love to have a copy.? I'll reimburse you for the
costs.? Just let me know when, where to send
cheque and how much.
Elizabeth

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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Film......................slightly off topic

Elizabeth

Unfortunately when I pressed the record button I found out that my video isn't tuned into Sky Tv
but I'm in the process of obtaining a copy, when I do I'll let you know and if you would like a copy
I'll make you one

Paul

At 14:00 12/10/2001 +0100, you wrote:
Plus ca change Paul.
Early 80's met a 30-year-old German on a Greek
island.? I sat for several hours listening to his version
of WW2 (i.e. the 6 million odd people who perished in
the gas chambers was a figment of everyone's imagination..)
At the end of the monologue I quietly
explained I didn't agree with him, nor did many
historians.....? The only thing that shut him up was when
I told him my own mother had been in Dachau.

Did you by any chance record the documentary?
I can't get ITV over here.
Elizabeth
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:16 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Film......................slightly off topic


> Last night ITV2 showed the SS in Britain, about the 14th SS "Galizien"
> division
> I'm still amazed that in spite of all the evidence presented the author M.
> Melnyk
> and the "others" are still denying and disputing the facts.
> There were German documents that showed the divisions whereabouts and they
> are adamant that
> those documents are wrong. I suggest that if others can watch it they do
as
> it shows the Ukrainian Nationalist's
> mentality to insist that they are innocent of the crimes, they've even
> managed to persuade their
> children that they were the victims
>
> I have posed this question to M. Melnyk, If you state that you're
> Ukrainians fighting for a free Ukraine
> and despise the Poles and all that they stand for. Also you have never
> acknowledged the territory
> being Polish, why then upon your surrender to the British did you all pass
> yourselves as Polish citizens.
>
> I'm awaiting his reply.
>
>
>
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