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IC-705 and PAT


 

Greetings all
It's been a very slow process for me, but I'm slowly starting to play with BAP. I've opted to use a Rpi 3b+ as my machine for a few reasons....and my rig is my IC-705. Things seem to be mostly working well, tho I appear to have to manually set the GPS to /dev/ttyACM1? in /etc/default/gpsd.?

Anyway, I'm able to put it in hotspot mode, get heartbeats from JS8, (and I assume make contacts but haven't stayed on long enough yet), make contacts on FT8, and I **think FLDIGI is also A-ok... all of which tells me that FLRIG is happy. BTW, even tho we're starting to see more support for the 705's native hex address, I still keep mine at 94h and tell FLRIG it's a 7300.

What I'm **not sure about is PAT...and in particular how to make adjustments so as to keep my ALC where it should be, etc.
Just curious if there's anyone out there who's got the BAP/PAT stuff working well with an IC-705 (or 7300, for that matter)???

Thanks!

T.M.


 

I¡¯m also in the process of trying to configure my IC-705 to use Pat-Winlink. ?Anything you discover, please share. ?I¡¯ve managed to get FLRig controlling the IC-705, I can use Winlink with Telnet, but I think my challenge is getting the ARDOP settings along with any settings with the 705 to work together. ?I get the spectrum and the ARDOP GUI shows it is trying to transmit, but the radio is not transmitting. ?Maybe, I need to change the CI-V to 94h and tell FLRIG it¡¯s a 7300 as well.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Jim


 

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Did you set PTT=True?

Pat Menu > Manage Pat > Set Ardop PTT

Thanks,
Terry K4HNT




---- On Mon, 09 Aug 2021 15:12:09 -0400 Jim-K?JNR via groups.io <jnrhodes@...> wrote ----

I¡¯m also in the process of trying to configure my IC-705 to use Pat-Winlink. ?Anything you discover, please share. ?I¡¯ve managed to get FLRig controlling the IC-705, I can use Winlink with Telnet, but I think my challenge is getting the ARDOP settings along with any settings with the 705 to work together. ?I get the spectrum and the ARDOP GUI shows it is trying to transmit, but the radio is not transmitting. ?Maybe, I need to change the CI-V to 94h and tell FLRIG it¡¯s a 7300 as well.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Jim






 

If flrig is controlling ok then set pat to use flrig (rig #4) instead of hamlib. Don't forget to turn on PTT in Pat Menu.


On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 16:17 Jim-K?JNR via <jnrhodes=[email protected]> wrote:
I¡¯m also in the process of trying to configure my IC-705 to use Pat-Winlink.? Anything you discover, please share.? I¡¯ve managed to get FLRig controlling the IC-705, I can use Winlink with Telnet, but I think my challenge is getting the ARDOP settings along with any settings with the 705 to work together.? I get the spectrum and the ARDOP GUI shows it is trying to transmit, but the radio is not transmitting.? Maybe, I need to change the CI-V to 94h and tell FLRIG it¡¯s a 7300 as well.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Jim


 

Hi Jim. This operator OH8STN has great info on Winlink and IC-705. Lots of other great vids for setting up in the field. Check him out.

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or search for his call on youtube and search his channel for winlink.

73 Chris VE3XKZ


 

Yes, I set the PTT=True and I still can¡¯t get ARDOP to control the transmit on the radio. ?I¡¯m wondering if I have the PTT settings in FLRIG and radio correct. ?However, if push the PTT button on FLRIG it does trigger a transmit on the radio.


 

Are you referring to the Rig Control Command under pat settings? ?It reads /user/local/bin/rightly -m 4


 

I thought you said you had FLrig working correctly? Try js8call or wsjtx with flrig controlling. Once you verify it's working, then set Pat to use it.


On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 17:23 Jim-K?JNR via <jnrhodes=[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, I set the PTT=True and I still can¡¯t get ARDOP to control the transmit on the radio.? I¡¯m wondering if I have the PTT settings in FLRIG and radio correct.? However, if push the PTT button on FLRIG it does trigger a transmit on the radio.


 

Yes, I¡¯ve watched many of his informative videos. ?Since I¡¯m setting up BAP and using ARDOP, I just haven¡¯t found the right settings to get this working.?

Thanks for advice.

Jim


 

Okay, on Pat Mailbox status screen, I¡¯m getting an Unable to set PTT rig ¡®¡¯; not defined or loaded. ?Any idea where I should go to update this value? ? Flrig controls the radio, so unless there is a another setting or place for me go I¡¯m not sure what the next step should be to resolve.

Jim


 

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Jim,

There is two different files / controls in play here.? FLRIG and ARDOP.?

It sounds like you have chosen a path many of us have in which FL Rig is your interface to the radio for applications.? That is a good option.? It only means that inside your applications instead of setting up your radio over and over, you will use rig 4.


For PAT, ARDOP is the underlying piece that connects the pretty GUI web page to FLRIG.? It does this via its own config file , which Jason has created a nice interface for through pat menu > Settings / Config.

Here are mine

Notice rig control command is set to -m 4, that flrig and Rig Control is set to yes.?

Now, there are a few other commands not exposed in this screen, they are set from the Pat Menu > Manage Pat screen, even though they are still modifying items in the same ARDOP config file


Notice the Set Ardop PTT, that item needs to be set to True.? Using this interface, it is easy to backup the ADROP config file, as well as reset it and start over.?

You can directly edit the ARDOP config by opening a terminal and typing pat configure

It is not uncommon for all of us to struggle a bit here with ARDOP, even from build to build.

I hope that helps,

Thanks,
Terry K4HNT




---- On Mon, 09 Aug 2021 17:55:08 -0400 Jim-K?JNR via groups.io <jnrhodes@...> wrote ----

Okay, on Pat Mailbox status screen, I¡¯m getting an Unable to set PTT rig ¡®¡¯; not defined or loaded. ?Any idea where I should go to update this value? ? Flrig controls the radio, so unless there is a another setting or place for me go I¡¯m not sure what the next step should be to resolve.

Jim






 

I think I'm getting closer to unraveling the mystery.? From inside of the Pat Mailbox when trying to connect to a gateway, it puts a line through the frequency and says "Rig Control is not configured for the selected transport.? set the frequency manually."? Then when I look at the logs it indicates that Hamlib is not set to Rig 4.? I think Rig 4 is not getting set properly in the config to allow ARDOP to control Flrig.? Does this help in trying figure what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks in advance for all the help.

73 de Jim-K0JNR


 

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Since latest bap i found same issue. If i close pat and restart then it works. Icom7100.?

Greetings from the Namib

Pieter Jacobs
V51pj

On 10 Aug 2021, at 4:01 AM, Jim-K?JNR via groups.io <jnrhodes@...> wrote:

?I think I'm getting closer to unraveling the mystery.? From inside of the Pat Mailbox when trying to connect to a gateway, it puts a line through the frequency and says "Rig Control is not configured for the selected transport.? set the frequency manually."? Then when I look at the logs it indicates that Hamlib is not set to Rig 4.? I think Rig 4 is not getting set properly in the config to allow ARDOP to control Flrig.? Does this help in trying figure what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks in advance for all the help.

73 de Jim-K0JNR


 

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Jim
Can you post a copy of your config? ? Be sure to blank out your winlink password which is near the top of the file.?

Terry

On Aug 9, 2021, at 10:01 PM, Jim-K?JNR via groups.io <jnrhodes@...> wrote:

?I think I'm getting closer to unraveling the mystery.? From inside of the Pat Mailbox when trying to connect to a gateway, it puts a line through the frequency and says "Rig Control is not configured for the selected transport.? set the frequency manually."? Then when I look at the logs it indicates that Hamlib is not set to Rig 4.? I think Rig 4 is not getting set properly in the config to allow ARDOP to control Flrig.? Does this help in trying figure what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks in advance for all the help.

73 de Jim-K0JNR


 

Here is my config.json.? ?Also my quick stats are ARDOP Speed = 500, I have set this to 2000 with same results, ARDOP PTT is True, Listen Modes is ardop, Rig Control is yes, Pat Port is 5000.

{
? "mycall": "K0JNR",
? "secure_login_password": "PWD",
? "auxiliary_addresses": [],
? "locator": "EM48ON",
? "service_codes": [
? ? "PUBLIC"
? ],
? "http_addr": "0.0.0.0:5000",
? "motd": [
? ? "Open source Winlink client - getpat.io"
? ],
? "connect_aliases": {
? ? "telnet": "telnet://{mycall}:CMSTelnet@...:8772/wl2k",
? ? "KF4LXS-20M-14107.4": "ardop:///KF4LXS"
? },
? "listen": [],
? "hamlib_rigs": {},
? "ax25": {
? ? "port": "wl2k",
? ? "beacon": {
? ? ? "every": 3600,
? ? ? "message": "Winlink P2P",
? ? ? "destination": "IDENT"
? ? },
? ? "rig": ""
? },
? "serial-tnc": {
? ? "path": "/dev/ttyUSB0",
? ? "baudrate": 9600,
? ? "type": "Kenwood"
? },
? "winmor": {
? ? "addr": "localhost:8500",
? ? "inbound_bandwidth": 1600,
? ? "drive_level": 0,
? ? "rig": "",
? ? "ptt_ctrl": false
? },
? "ardop": {
? ? "addr": "localhost:8515",
? ? "arq_bandwidth": {
? ? ? "Forced": false,
? ? ? ? ?"Max": 500
? ? },
? ? "rig": "",
? ? "ptt_ctrl": true,
? ? "beacon_interval": 0,
? ? "cwid_enabled": true
? },
? "pactor": {
? ? "path": "/dev/ttyUSB0",
? ? "baudrate": 57600,
? ? "rig": "",
? ? "custom_init_script": ""
? },
? "telnet": {
? ? "listen_addr": ":8774",
? ? "password": ""
? },
? "gpsd": {
? ? "enable_http": false,
? ? "use_server_time": false,
? ? "addr": "localhost:2947"
? },
? "schedule": {},
? "version_reporting_disabled": false
}


 

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I believe you have a couple places that need inspection, mainly it looks like there is no rig definition.? ? From an Ardop speed perspective, Ardop is like an old dial up internet modem.? The Forced keyword right above the speed allows it to send a connection and then negotiate a speed acceptable to both radios given the band / connection conditions.? The dirtier the connection, the lower the speed.? So 500 is good to get things ironed out then i would recommend going to 2000 and let the radios decide on an ultimate speed.

I have edited your file to show a couple differences with mine *BOLD*.? I use an ICOM 7100 so my config may be a bit different than you need but this may help you.


{
? "mycall": "K0JNR",
? "secure_login_password": "PWD",
? "auxiliary_addresses": [],
? "locator": "EM48ON",
? "service_codes": [
? ? "PUBLIC"
? ],
? "http_addr": "0.0.0.0:5000",
? "motd": [
? ? "Open source Winlink client - getpat.io"
? ],
? "connect_aliases": {
? ? "telnet": "telnet://{mycall}:CMSTelnet@...:8772/wl2k",
? ? "KF4LXS-20M-14107.4": "ardop:///KF4LXS"? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DELETE THIS
? },
? "listen": [],
? "hamlib_rigs": {
? ? ? "my-rig": {
? ? ?"address": "127.0.0.1:4532",
????? "network": "tcp"
? ? ?}
},
? "ax25": {
? ? "port": "wl2k",
? ? "beacon": {
? ? ? "every": 3600,
? ? ? "message": "Winlink P2P",
? ? ? "destination": "IDENT"
? ? },
? ? "rig":?"my-rig"
? },
? "serial-tnc": {
? ? "path": "/dev/ttyUSB0",
? ? "baudrate": 9600,
? ? "type": "Kenwood"
? },
? "winmor": {
? ? "addr": "localhost:8500",
? ? "inbound_bandwidth": 1600,
? ? "drive_level": 0,
? ? "rig": "",
? ? "ptt_ctrl": false
? },
? "ardop": {
? ? "addr": "localhost:8515",
? ? "arq_bandwidth": {
? ? ? "Forced": false,
? ? ? ? ?"Max": 500
? ? },
? ? "rig": "my-rig",
? ? "ptt_ctrl": true,
? ? "beacon_interval": 0,
? ? "cwid_enabled": true
? },
? "pactor": {
? ? "path": "/dev/ttyUSB0",
? ? "baudrate": 57600,
? ? "rig": "",
? ? "custom_init_script": ""
? },
? "telnet": {
? ? "listen_addr": ":8774",
? ? "password": ""
? },
? "gpsd": {
? ? "enable_http": false,
? ? "use_server_time": false,
? ? "addr": "localhost:2947"
? },
? "schedule": {},
? "version_reporting_disabled": false
}

Thanks,
Terry Hunt




---- On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 06:27:12 -0400 Jim-K?JNR via groups.io <jnrhodes@...> wrote ----

Here is my config.json.? ?Also my quick stats are ARDOP Speed = 500, I have set this to 2000 with same results, ARDOP PTT is True, Listen Modes is ardop, Rig Control is yes, Pat Port is 5000.

{
? "mycall": "K0JNR",
? "secure_login_password": "PWD",
? "auxiliary_addresses": [],
? "locator": "EM48ON",
? "service_codes": [
? ? "PUBLIC"
? ],
? "http_addr": "0.0.0.0:5000",
? "motd": [
? ? "Open source Winlink client - getpat.io"
? ],
? "connect_aliases": {
? ? "telnet": "telnet://{mycall}:CMSTelnet@...:8772/wl2k",
? ? "KF4LXS-20M-14107.4": "ardop:///KF4LXS"
? },
? "listen": [],
? "hamlib_rigs": {},
? "ax25": {
? ? "port": "wl2k",
? ? "beacon": {
? ? ? "every": 3600,
? ? ? "message": "Winlink P2P",
? ? ? "destination": "IDENT"
? ? },
? ? "rig": ""
? },
? "serial-tnc": {
? ? "path": "/dev/ttyUSB0",
? ? "baudrate": 9600,
? ? "type": "Kenwood"
? },
? "winmor": {
? ? "addr": "localhost:8500",
? ? "inbound_bandwidth": 1600,
? ? "drive_level": 0,
? ? "rig": "",
? ? "ptt_ctrl": false
? },
? "ardop": {
? ? "addr": "localhost:8515",
? ? "arq_bandwidth": {
? ? ? "Forced": false,
? ? ? ? ?"Max": 500
? ? },
? ? "rig": "",
? ? "ptt_ctrl": true,
? ? "beacon_interval": 0,
? ? "cwid_enabled": true
? },
? "pactor": {
? ? "path": "/dev/ttyUSB0",
? ? "baudrate": 57600,
? ? "rig": "",
? ? "custom_init_script": ""
? },
? "telnet": {
? ? "listen_addr": ":8774",
? ? "password": ""
? },
? "gpsd": {
? ? "enable_http": false,
? ? "use_server_time": false,
? ? "addr": "localhost:2947"
? },
? "schedule": {},
? "version_reporting_disabled": false
}






 

I **really appreciate everyone's help here.
Looks like there is/was a couple of us IC-705 (7300ish) guys with similar questions at the same time.
I wanted to report that I have now **successfully** completed my FIRST PAT WINLINK connection, so thanks everyone.

Here's the only remaining question I have...
My ALC was really high.
Pi newb here, so not sure where to go to adjust this on the pi???

Thanks!

T.M.
KD9LAI


 

I feel like I'm getting close.? I made the edits you recommended.? But I get a refused to connect error in Chromium when Pat-Mailbox launches.? Should the address under Hamlib match the ulr for Pat-Mailbox, which for me is 127.0.0.1:5000 or should it match the TCPIP in flrig which is 127.0.0.1:4001?

Either way, Pat-Mailbox refused to connect with any of these options.? Below is the latest config with edits.? Thanks in Advance for all the help.

73, de Jim-K0JNR

{
? "mycall": "K0JNR",
? "secure_login_password": "PWD",
? "auxiliary_addresses": [],
? "locator": "EM48ON",
? "service_codes": [
? ? "PUBLIC"
? ],
? "http_addr": "0.0.0.0:5000",
? "motd": [
? ? "Open source Winlink client - getpat.io"
? ],
? "connect_aliases": {
? ? "telnet": "telnet://{mycall}:CMSTelnet@...:8772/wl2k"
? },
? "listen": [],
? "hamlib_rigs": {
? ? "my-rig":{
? ? ?"address":"127.0.0.1:4001",
? ? ?"network": "tcp"
? ? ?}
},
? "ax25": {
? ? "port": "wl2k",
? ? "beacon": {
? ? ? "every": 3600,
? ? ? "message": "Winlink P2P",
? ? ? "destination": "IDENT"
? ? },
? ? "rig": ""my-rig"
? },
? "serial-tnc": {
? ? "path": "/dev/ttyUSB0",
? ? "baudrate": 9600,
? ? "type": "Kenwood"
? },
? "winmor": {
? ? "addr": "localhost:8500",
? ? "inbound_bandwidth": 1600,
? ? "drive_level": 0,
? ? "rig": "",
? ? "ptt_ctrl": false
? },
? "ardop": {
? ? "addr": "localhost:8515",
? ? "arq_bandwidth": {
? ? ? "Forced": false,
? ? ? ? ?"Max": 500
? ? },
? ? "rig": "my-rig",
? ? "ptt_ctrl": true,
? ? "beacon_interval": 0,
? ? "cwid_enabled": true
? },
? "pactor": {
? ? "path": "/dev/ttyUSB0",
? ? "baudrate": 57600,
? ? "rig": "",
? ? "custom_init_script": ""
? },
? "telnet": {
? ? "listen_addr": ":8774",
? ? "password": ""
? },
? "gpsd": {
? ? "enable_http": false,
? ? "use_server_time": false,
? ? "addr": "localhost:2947"
? },
? "schedule": {},
? "version_reporting_disabled": false
}
?


 

Okay, you can ignore the previous post.? I had an extra " that was causing my error.? Also, the port 4532 on the address is allowing ARDOP to control transmitting to flrig.

While I did not successfully connect yet, it appears I'm moving in the correct direction.

Thanks for all the guidance!

73 de Jim-K0JNR


 

Terry, I would like to give you a big Thank You!? After your help, I was successful in transmitting and receiving my first Winlink E-mail.

73 de Jim-K0JNR