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Error installing webchat on Pi4 / bookworm

 

Hello,

Trying to install webchat, located at github.com/km4ack/webchat. I get the following error:

Hit:1 bookworm InRelease
Hit:2 bookworm-security InRelease
Hit:3 bookworm-updates InRelease
Hit:4 bookworm InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
19 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
installing aprsd
error: externally-managed-environment

?? This environment is externally managed
??°??€> To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install
python3-xyz, where xyz is the package you are trying to
install.

If you wish to install a non-Debian-packaged Python package,
create a virtual environment using python3 -m venv path/to/venv.
Then use path/to/venv/bin/python and path/to/venv/bin/pip. Make
sure you have python3-full installed.

For more information visit

note: If you believe this is a mistake, please contact your Python installation or OS distribution provider. You can override this, at the risk of breaking your Python installation or OS, by passing --break-system-packages.
hint: See PEP 668 for the detailed specification.
mv: cannot overwrite non-directory '/home/pi/bin/webchat/webchat' with directory '/home/pi/bin/webchat'
sed: can't read /home/pi/bin/webchat/webchat.desktop: No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat '/home/pi/bin/webchat/webchat.desktop': No such file or directory

Please note, I do have python3-full installed. Thanks in advance.
 

This was written when Bullseye was the latest OS. Bookworm changed the way Python code is installed. Bookworm now requires it to be in a virtual environment.
See -
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 7:43?AM km4ack via <jason.oleham=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
This was written when Bullseye was the latest OS. Bookworm changed the way Python code is installed. Bookworm now requires it to be in a virtual environment.
See -
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Edited

Not quite true, as there are several solutions to " Bookworm now requires it to be in a virtual environment. "
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1) it's not a Bookworm issue, it's a Python 3 issue.

2) The easiest break-fix is to add " --break-system-packages" to the end of the install line.
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3) Next 'easiest' break-fix is to add "break-system-packages = true"
????????? to ~/.config/pip/pip.conf (preferred) or globally in /etc/pip.conf
? ? ?you could do
?????????
? ? ? ?? mkdir -p ~/.config/pip
???????? echo "break-system-packages = true" | sudo tee -a ~/.config/pip/pip.conf
or
? ? ? ?? echo "break-system-packages = true" | sudo tee -a /etc/pip.conf
or

4) go through the 'learn python virtual environments' lessons fount in YouTubes...
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I have added the first solution under #3 to my setup new images
scripts for myself. It presets and pre-installs a number of things,
including sendemail, Python Get Gridsquare, openssl, pam
authentication, dos2unix, samba, ntfs-3g, gcc make, git, neofetch (now
removed from debian trixie repos) net-tools, conky, curl and more...
it presets some config files like above, copies other config files
over from a samba share, and otherwise makes my life easier.
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[edited to fix #3...]
 

Thanks for the correction Kevin. I thought I recalled this popping up when Bookworm was released so I always associated it with Bookworm.
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I was familiar with #2 but not #3. Thanks :-)
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Hey thanks for this.
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-- Mike WB8ERJ

Packet BBS email:
WB8ERJ@WB8ERJ.#NEOH.OH.USA.NOAM

Geeze! What is he up to now?




On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 7:14?AM km4ack via <jason.oleham=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks for the correction Kevin. I thought I recalled this popping up when Bookworm was released so I always associated it with Bookworm.
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I was familiar with #2 but not #3. Thanks :-)
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73, de KM4ACK
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Kevin,

I wanted to update you on my progress with the Webchat / python3 issue. Again thank you for your input. I was able to install Webchat successfully.

However on my install, there was no?~/.conf/pip-.pip.conf file. Specifically no .conf folder but rather a .config folder. In the .config folder there was no pip.conf file, so I opted for the global solution you suggested - add "break-system-packages = true" in the /etc/pip.conf file. This was the fix for me.

Thank you Kevin, I greatly appreciate your input.
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-- Mike WB8ERJ

Packet BBS email:
WB8ERJ@WB8ERJ.#NEOH.OH.USA.NOAM

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On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 8:31?AM Mike Thompson via <wb8erj=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey thanks for this.
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-- Mike WB8ERJ

Packet BBS email:
WB8ERJ@WB8ERJ.#NEOH.OH.USA.NOAM

Geeze! What is he up to now?




On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 7:14?AM km4ack via <jason.oleham=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks for the correction Kevin. I thought I recalled this popping up when Bookworm was released so I always associated it with Bookworm.
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I was familiar with #2 but not #3. Thanks :-)
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73, de KM4ACK
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There seems to be a translate error when I copy/pasted, it should have been:

3) Next 'easiest' break-fix is to add "break-system-packages = true"
????????? to ~/.config/pip/pip.conf (preferred) or globally in /etc/pip.conf
? ? ?you could do
? ? ? ?? mkdir -p ~/.config/pip
???????? echo "break-system-packages = true" | sudo tee -a ~/.config/pip/pip.conf
or
? ? ? ?? echo "break-system-packages = true" | sudo tee -a /etc/pip.conf
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I really don't like the lack of a preview here... Oh well...
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Glad you got it working...
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