Thanks, I¡¯m looking forward to next year?
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On Jul 11, 2022, at 20:24, Mike Aimone via groups.io <Aimonema@...> wrote:
? Kudos to the newer Hams who ?joined our group this year .... ? Mike WA8AHZ ? ? Attached is a summary for K2B - 2022.
Lots of hard work in that week.? I will do certificates as I can.
As last year, I am sending $25 gift cards to the five top scorers ... last year Dunkin Donuts.? This year ... gas cards!
I will circulate results from other states when I have them.
I'm pretty sure KO4ENU 217 birds is a K2B and a 13 Colonies record.
KN2K 5 EME's is certainly a K2B record, maybe 13 Colonies too.
I think my 2,633 was a K2B record.
AA4SS, I never heard of an SSTV contact in 13 Colonies!
And finally, KO4ENU was chatting ... with an astronaut on the ISS.
Pretty cool bunch of hams!
Vy 73,
David K2WPM
(No, I won't nag you any more).
David, K2WPM
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Kudos to the newer Hams who ?joined our group this year .... ? Mike WA8AHZ ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of David Wright Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 1:23 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] K2B Summary 2022 ? Attached is a summary for K2B - 2022.
Lots of hard work in that week.? I will do certificates as I can.
As last year, I am sending $25 gift cards to the five top scorers ... last year Dunkin Donuts.? This year ... gas cards!
I will circulate results from other states when I have them.
I'm pretty sure KO4ENU 217 birds is a K2B and a 13 Colonies record.
KN2K 5 EME's is certainly a K2B record, maybe 13 Colonies too.
I think my 2,633 was a K2B record.
AA4SS, I never heard of an SSTV contact in 13 Colonies!
And finally, KO4ENU was chatting ... with an astronaut on the ISS.
Pretty cool bunch of hams!
Vy 73,
David K2WPM
(No, I won't nag you any more).
David, K2WPM
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Attached is a summary for K2B - 2022.
Lots of hard work in that week.? I will do certificates as I can.
As last year, I am sending $25 gift cards to the five top scorers ... last year Dunkin Donuts.? This year ... gas cards!
I will circulate results from other states when I have them.
I'm pretty sure KO4ENU 217 birds is a K2B and a 13 Colonies record.
KN2K 5 EME's is certainly a K2B record, maybe 13 Colonies too.
I think my 2,633 was a K2B record.
AA4SS, I never heard of an SSTV contact in 13 Colonies!
And finally, KO4ENU was chatting ... with an astronaut on the ISS.
Pretty cool bunch of hams!
Vy 73,
David K2WPM
(No, I won't nag you any more).
David, K2WPM
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Several people have emailed me for a K2B summary.
I still need a couple logs.
All indications indicate we will do slightly better than last year.
Details forthcoming.
David, K2WPM
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Preliminary Report from Ken
From the boss
Hi Managers:
?
Well another one bit the dust :) 2022 is history. I know it was BIG! How Big? I will know after Y'all send me.? Also nominate who you think had large enough scores to merit an award. Don't forget to tell me what category too!? Only you can do this so we don't want someone to lose out who is deserving.
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THE Bonus stations: GB13COL had some problems. The 40m antenna atop of the Cherry picker failed! Their absence on 40m was felt. Also on 40m the GB13 stations can not go above 7.200 mhz. Band plans are different in EU countries. AND they are limited to 400 watts output! Hard to hear in bad prop. But they did quite good considering-6,234 total Q's. Now WM3PEN! What can I say!? Bob and His radio animals did it again! 12,225 contacts, +1869 over last year!? Great job Philadelphia.? And Didier and his TM13 French team! Last I heard Didier had some magnificent?numbers!
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I always ask myself why is it when we start operations, propagation decides to take a vacation in the bottom of a toilet bowl? Sun spots, solar storms, et.et. The day after the event ended?? Prop was good!? But ya know what?? Bad prop? didn't matter. I think we all killed it again.?
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L-I-D-s. A ton of them this year. I know a group of hams that are doing the LID thing on purpose. I know who they are, but, the majority are idiots. The disrespectful things that were said about GB13, K2C & K2D, the jammers, The stupid remarks on DXsummit, and the arguments and name calling on the Colony Face Book Page. I guess it comes with the territory. And let's not forget the poor operating practices. But I never heard any one of our Op's lose their cool on the air! I know that I would of?
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There has been some discussion about limiting the number of operators per state. Some states have over 40 operators each!?
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SCREEEEECH!! Time to talk about FT8/4..It appears that this mode is very popular!? I am just concerned that some states over populate their staff with digital operators. There has to be a balance.
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One thing that surprised me! When I spotted myself on DXsummit, and remarked "Slow CW" it was quite popular. I know some states have slow CW op's, even for this year! It is a? good idea to have some 8-10 WPM Op's working for those who feel comfortable at that speed. Maybe a new award category??
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All in all, I think everyone did a great job. Certificate requests are piling in already! One thing, I will NOT entertain Colony log sheets being emailed to me for a reply, except for special circumstances. I will delete them. If I did entertain them, my email would be destroyed! And believe it or not it takes longer to complete.
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So congrats to everyone on a stellar job.
?
73'/Ken
13 Colonies SE Coordinator?
K2A Manager.
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Here is K2D - CT
This was a huge year for the K2D team.? We had a wide range of operating skills from serious contesters to those wanting to get their toe in the water and help.? In the end, our team broke the very ambitious goal set ¨C 20K QSOS!? Incredible dedication on the part of 28 operators who basically put the week aside and dove in head first.
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Phone?? 7908
Digital??? 7892
CW???????? 4781
Sat????????? 139
Total????? 20720
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Our top performers:
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Phone ? N1IXF ?? 2137
CW???????? K1ZZ????? 1002
Digi???????? W2TT???? 2994
Sat????????? KB1HY?? 115
Overall? W1RM? 3117
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'Radio Animals' I don't know about that but we had fun and introduce SSTV to the event and students to the hobby.
While Ken said it will be another email, I'll just say it's up to the state/bonus manager to know when he has enough people. Life gets in the way. Several of us worked during the week, but were able to fill in key shifts. July 4th is a big deal in Phila and ops spent time with their families.
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WM3PEN Total Qs = 12225? New High for us by 1869 (Last year 10356)
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cw - 3156
phone - 4054
digital - 5003
dstar - 12
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Including 3 SSTV (a first for this event) and 81 Satellite contacts. We covered all bands. 20 and 40 were the big ones.
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Top Operator Joel, NF3R = 5835 Qs
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Operators:
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NF3R
WA3GM
K3UJ? (Also serving as QSL Manager for GB13COL)
W3WHK
N3ZZK
W3FRB
WK2G,?
W3AZT
KB3RIJ
NY3A
KC3SMW (SSTV)
AJ3DI? (DSTAR)
NS3K? ??(DSTAR)
WA3BXH???(DSTAR)
WA3PZO (Team Lead - Trustee/QSL Manager WM3PEN)
Villanova University Amateur Radio Club, W3YP.. (All satellite contacts)
? ?KU2Y (advisor)
? ?KD2UCB (student)
? ?Sanskar Agrawal (studying for Tech) (student)
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Here is report from France.
Following your message, I would like to report on our activity this year First of all, I would like to thank all the radio amateurs for contacting us. It was, once again, a pride and an honor to participate in your Independence Day.
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This year, and for reasons both professional and due to the Covid pandemic which is resuming in France, we were only three operators with F5OGL, F6FET and F5RMK, the latter having only been able to broadcast on the weekend of the 2nd and July 3 (he drives a truck during the week)
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We have deplorable propagation on the 10, 12 and 15 meter bands with the USA. On the other hand, good propagation on 17, 20 and 40 meters.
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Our score is as follows:
CW: 3558
SSB: 4442
FT4: 876
FT8: 571
That is a total of 9393 QSO's or approximately 1000 less than last year but 1 less operator plus an operator only active on weekends
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Everyone told me how happy they were to do the 13 colonies event
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Next year, I will find other operators to ¡°expand¡± the list. Thank you again, Ken for these moments of pure happiness.
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73's QRO to all
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Didier F5OGL
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David, et. al.,
I did 325 QSOs in 4 hours. That is all the time I could spend this year on the event due to travel and work. I twas a good time when I was on. I really wanted to work something other than 40 meters but that wasn't to be this year.
v/r
John
--
DE W5ODJ
John Westerman
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Re: Feedback and comments
Thoughtful comments from a gifted teacher.
Many great comments received; I will cut and paste into a guide for next year.
This event can really improve our operating skills.
"Phantom QSOs," how precious....
David, K2WPM
K2B Coordinator ¨C 13 Colonies
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of N1RM - Rick Miller via groups.io Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 5:49 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments My 2 cents: 1. David should be the prototype for 13C coordinators. Always a positive and encouraging attitude and stayed right on top of things. We are very fortunate! 2. Jammers: Many already know this, but the only way to get rid of jammers is to make them realize that they are not being effective. I only ran into serious ones on phone. Fortunately the auto notch in the radio eliminated the carrier. I was able to work several stations even though sensitivity was taking a hit. When I couldn't hear anyone else, I continued making "phantom" QSOs (or were they?) until the idiot moved on to more fertile ground. I never had one hang around more than a minute or two. Bottom line, continue to sound like you're having a great time. That is an almost universal turn-off for such silly people. 3. SSB Pileups: I had quite a few and they were a blast. Almost everyone was respectful and well behaved, which made things really easy and fun. One technique I used when things got too crazy was calling by call area number, especially in conjunction with current beam heading. The key is to manage the pileup so that folks can hear that you realize their time is important to them, and that you know what you're doing. It's possible to be friendly, courteous, and FAST - it just takes some practice. IMO we only exist to hand out QSOs to as many interested folks as possible and I try to operate accordingly. Others have different opinions and I respect them, but that one works for me. It's also the most fun for me (enlightened self-interest?). 4. CW Pileups: They can be more problematic because of the zero beat problem created by the "click and call" gang. When I teach new hams I always stress that you must listen before you transmit, but there are thousands of hams that have not taken one of my classes ?. I was on the verge of going split a couple of times, but I was able to work through the pile. 5. Having fun: most of the folks you work will mimic your attitude. If you are crisp, efficient, polite and just sound happy, most of the folks calling you will feed off that positive energy. I had a great time this year thanks to David, the whole K2B team, and the hundreds of hams I worked in my shifts. I'll be back for more next year! Thanks team! Rick N1RM -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of David Wright via groups.io Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 1:22 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments Thanks, I wanted to start a separate thread for any comments or suggestions. So this one is fine! Here's what 13 Colonies web site says for exchange: The exchange for this event is: CALL SIGN RS / RST / RSQ STATE / PROVINCE or COUNTRY Sometimes I asked for name; usually, people volunteered it, so I did also. I think the one-hour time slot is a fantastic idea. I was going to recommend that myself. Not because of commitment(s), but because two hours can be physically grueling. On 20 meters, with jammers, guys plopping down 1 Khz away, weak signals fading in and out, DX calling off the back of the beam. Not to mention the pile-ups. Tnxs also on the spreadsheet idea. David, K2WPM K2B Coordinator ¨C 13 Colonies -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Dodd via groups.io Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:45 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments This was my first time participating, and I came away with a few thoughts I'd like share with the group, and especially with David. ---------- TIME SLOTS: I was frustrated by the two-hour time slots on the sign-up sheet. Several times I couldn't commit to two hours due to time constraints. One-hour slots provide more flexibility and encourage signing up. Look at it this way: Suppose I can't commit to a two-hour session from 7pm-9pm, but I can and do commit to 7-8 and start operating then. Now, at 7:50, I discover I CAN operate until 9pm, so I open the sheet to see if 8-9 is still available. It is, so I sign up and keep on operating. Easy-peasy. ---------- SUGGESTION: Modify the sign-up sheet to lock the row and column headers so they're always visible. On the current sheet, they scroll off the screen as I move around the sheet. For example, if I want to sign up for 20CW at 7-9pm, the band/mode and time headers disappear as I tab from cell-to-cell and row-to-row, so I don't know which cell to look at. Hheaders should always be visible. This is a standard operation in most spreadsheets. Here's an article: <> ---------- SUGGESTION: I think 13 Colonies should eliminate the Name from the exchange. Only a few stations ever sent their name, and I didn't even know it was part of the exchange until well into the event (OK, I didn't RTFM). I didn't hear ANY K2(x) stations sending a name. Why have it if no one sends it? Comments, anyone? -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K4d / KPA500 / KAT500 Carolina Windom up 45'
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Nice work,?KO4ENU and KO4GLN!
On Friday, July 8, 2022, 10:35 PM, Steve KO4ENU <steveramlogan1@...> wrote:
Hello All,?
?
I did 214 SAT QSO with one being with the ISS as K2B. My daughter McKenzie (KO4GLN) made 1132 SSB phone contacts.
I could of done more on the birds but throttled back to ensure the colonies late starting Satellite Operators got some air time.?
Overall loads of fun, great camaraderie and a fitting way to celebrate the importance of original 13 in the independence story. This collaboration would surely make the founding fathers proud!
Thank you for allowing myself and my daughter the opportunity support this event?
See you all at the PVRC meetings (Colonial chapter), on the ¡° bird¡± or contesting (IARU HF starts tomorrow)¡.
Steve (KO4ENU) and ?Mckenzie (KO4GLN)
On Jul 8, 2022, at 9:38 PM, N1RM - Rick Miller <rick@...> wrote:
?
Wow, great job Chuck!
?
You bring up an interesting point that I have been thinking about.
?
Whether it¡¯s the fast CW guys, or the ¡°big gun¡± stations that are a breeze to pick out in a pileup, I found it easy to get into a ¡°rate mode¡±.? This event has become so popular that there a many times where there is plenty of such ¡°low
hanging fruit¡±.? I was trying to find a strategy to work the ¡°pileup disadvantaged¡± but it was hard.? I often listened for uncertain voices or a weak tailgate to try to pick them out.? I think I picked up a few little pistols or newbies that way, but it was
hard.
?
Like most others that have described their CW operation, I found 24-26 WPM CQs with immediate QRS to the answering speed worked very well.? I did call CQ 13COL instead of just CQ 13, and I may change to the shorter CQ next year.? I think
the extra letters just slowed things down since the guys that could actually copy it already know who I was and why I was there, and it didn¡¯t do any good for the guys that couldn¡¯t copy it!
?
Sound like you had fun, and provided fun to others, which is what it¡¯s all about.
?
73,
Rick
N1RM
?
?
I worked 100% CW.? The callers were well behaved for the most part.? There was often a big gap in operating skills though.? Many callers I know and have worked at 35WPM plus
in other events or contests while others were new hams or at least new to CW.? That made for some interesting moments, sort of like driving 45MPH in the left lane of the Interstate.? I tried to tailor my style to the audient at the time.? Mainly, I picked
a CQ speed somewhere in the middle to keep both the QRQ and QRS crowd interested.? Slowing down when needed or speeding up when I knew who was on the other end.
I made 1353 QSOs.? I hope I didn't leave anyone behind.
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 06:35:00 PM EDT, Ian Callahan via groups.io <iancallahan63@...>
wrote:
I was a late arrival, only working Wednesday and Thursday for just over 4 hours with 13 QSO¡¯s. Didn¡¯t have time to think of any
feedback, etc. but I had a great time doing it and hope y¡¯all will invite me back to help next year.
Ian KN4TBG
> On Jul 8, 2022, at 17:48, N1RM - Rick Miller <rick@...> wrote:
>
> ?My 2 cents:
>
> 1. David should be the prototype for 13C coordinators.? Always a positive and encouraging attitude and stayed right on top of things.? We are very fortunate!
>
> 2. Jammers:? Many already know this, but the only way to get rid of jammers is to make them realize that they are not being effective.? I only ran into serious ones on phone.? Fortunately the auto notch in the radio eliminated the carrier.? I was able to
work several stations even though sensitivity was taking a hit.? When I couldn't hear anyone else, I continued making "phantom" QSOs (or were they?) until the idiot moved on to more fertile ground.? I never had one hang around more than a minute or two.? Bottom
line, continue to sound like you're having a great time.? That is an almost universal turn-off for such silly people.
>
> 3. SSB Pileups:? I had quite a few and they were a blast.? Almost everyone was respectful and well behaved, which made things really easy and fun.? One technique I used when things got too crazy was calling by call area number, especially in conjunction with
current beam heading. The key is to manage the pileup so that folks can hear that you realize their time is important to them, and that you know what you're doing.? It's possible to be friendly, courteous, and FAST - it just takes some practice.? IMO we only
exist to hand out QSOs to as many interested folks as possible and I try to operate accordingly.? Others have different opinions and I respect them, but that one works for me.? It's also the most fun for me (enlightened self-interest?).
>
> 4. CW Pileups: They can be more problematic because of the zero beat problem created by the "click and call" gang. When I teach new hams I always stress that you must listen before you transmit, but there are thousands of hams that have not taken one of my
classes ?.? I was on the verge of going split a couple of times, but I was able
to work through the pile.
>
> 5. Having fun: most of the folks you work will mimic your attitude.? If you are crisp, efficient, polite and just sound happy, most of the folks calling you will feed off that positive energy.
>
> I had a great time this year thanks to David, the whole K2B team, and the hundreds of hams I worked in my shifts.
>
> I'll be back for more next year!
>
> Thanks team!
> Rick
> N1RM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Wright via groups.io
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 1:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
>
> Thanks, I wanted to start a separate thread for any comments or suggestions.
> So this one is fine!
>
> Here's what 13 Colonies web site says for exchange:
>
> The exchange for this event is:
> CALL SIGN
> RS / RST / RSQ
> STATE / PROVINCE or COUNTRY
> Sometimes I asked for name; usually, people volunteered it, so I did also.
>
> I think the one-hour time slot is a fantastic idea.? I was going to recommend that myself.
> Not because of commitment(s), but because two hours can be physically grueling.
> On 20 meters, with jammers, guys plopping down 1 Khz away, weak signals fading in and out, DX calling off the back of the beam.
> Not to mention the pile-ups.
>
> Tnxs also on the spreadsheet idea.
>
> David, K2WPM
> K2B Coordinator ¨C 13 Colonies
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Dodd via groups.io
> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
>
> This was my first time participating, and I came away with a few thoughts I'd like share with the group, and especially with David.
>
> ----------
> TIME SLOTS: I was frustrated by the two-hour time slots on the sign-up sheet. Several times I couldn't commit to two hours due to time constraints. One-hour slots provide more flexibility and encourage signing up.
>
> Look at it this way: Suppose I can't commit to a two-hour session from 7pm-9pm, but I can and do commit to 7-8 and start operating then. Now, at 7:50, I discover I CAN operate until 9pm, so I open the sheet to see if 8-9 is still available. It is, so I sign
up and keep on operating.
> Easy-peasy.
>
> ----------
> SUGGESTION: Modify the sign-up sheet to lock the row and column headers so they're always visible. On the current sheet, they scroll off the screen as I move around the sheet.
>
> For example, if I want to sign up for 20CW at 7-9pm, the band/mode and time headers disappear as I tab from cell-to-cell and row-to-row, so I don't know which cell to look at. Hheaders should always be visible.
>
> This is a standard operation in most spreadsheets. Here's an article:
> <>
>
> ----------
> SUGGESTION: I think 13 Colonies should eliminate the Name from the exchange. Only a few stations ever sent their name, and I didn't even know it was part of the exchange until well into the event (OK, I didn't RTFM). I didn't hear ANY K2(x) stations sending
a name. Why have it if no one sends it?
>
>
> Comments, anyone?
>
> --
> 73, Mike N4CF
> Louisa County, VA USA
> Elecraft K4d / KPA500 / KAT500
> Carolina Windom up 45'
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Feedback and comments
Hello All,?
?
I did 214 SAT QSO with one being with the ISS as K2B. My daughter McKenzie (KO4GLN) made 1132 SSB phone contacts.
I could of done more on the birds but throttled back to ensure the colonies late starting Satellite Operators got some air time.?
Overall loads of fun, great camaraderie and a fitting way to celebrate the importance of original 13 in the independence story. This collaboration would surely make the founding fathers proud!
Thank you for allowing myself and my daughter the opportunity support this event?
See you all at the PVRC meetings (Colonial chapter), on the ¡° bird¡± or contesting (IARU HF starts tomorrow)¡.
Steve (KO4ENU) and ?Mckenzie (KO4GLN)
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On Jul 8, 2022, at 9:38 PM, N1RM - Rick Miller <rick@...> wrote:
?
Wow, great job Chuck!
?
You bring up an interesting point that I have been thinking about.
?
Whether it¡¯s the fast CW guys, or the ¡°big gun¡± stations that are a breeze to pick out in a pileup, I found it easy to get into a ¡°rate mode¡±.? This event has become so popular that there a many times where there is plenty of such ¡°low
hanging fruit¡±.? I was trying to find a strategy to work the ¡°pileup disadvantaged¡± but it was hard.? I often listened for uncertain voices or a weak tailgate to try to pick them out.? I think I picked up a few little pistols or newbies that way, but it was
hard.
?
Like most others that have described their CW operation, I found 24-26 WPM CQs with immediate QRS to the answering speed worked very well.? I did call CQ 13COL instead of just CQ 13, and I may change to the shorter CQ next year.? I think
the extra letters just slowed things down since the guys that could actually copy it already know who I was and why I was there, and it didn¡¯t do any good for the guys that couldn¡¯t copy it!
?
Sound like you had fun, and provided fun to others, which is what it¡¯s all about.
?
73,
Rick
N1RM
?
?
I worked 100% CW.? The callers were well behaved for the most part.? There was often a big gap in operating skills though.? Many callers I know and have worked at 35WPM plus
in other events or contests while others were new hams or at least new to CW.? That made for some interesting moments, sort of like driving 45MPH in the left lane of the Interstate.? I tried to tailor my style to the audient at the time.? Mainly, I picked
a CQ speed somewhere in the middle to keep both the QRQ and QRS crowd interested.? Slowing down when needed or speeding up when I knew who was on the other end.
I made 1353 QSOs.? I hope I didn't leave anyone behind.
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 06:35:00 PM EDT, Ian Callahan via groups.io <iancallahan63@...>
wrote:
I was a late arrival, only working Wednesday and Thursday for just over 4 hours with 13 QSO¡¯s. Didn¡¯t have time to think of any
feedback, etc. but I had a great time doing it and hope y¡¯all will invite me back to help next year.
Ian KN4TBG
> On Jul 8, 2022, at 17:48, N1RM - Rick Miller <rick@...> wrote:
>
> ?My 2 cents:
>
> 1. David should be the prototype for 13C coordinators.? Always a positive and encouraging attitude and stayed right on top of things.? We are very fortunate!
>
> 2. Jammers:? Many already know this, but the only way to get rid of jammers is to make them realize that they are not being effective.? I only ran into serious ones on phone.? Fortunately the auto notch in the radio eliminated the carrier.? I was able to
work several stations even though sensitivity was taking a hit.? When I couldn't hear anyone else, I continued making "phantom" QSOs (or were they?) until the idiot moved on to more fertile ground.? I never had one hang around more than a minute or two.? Bottom
line, continue to sound like you're having a great time.? That is an almost universal turn-off for such silly people.
>
> 3. SSB Pileups:? I had quite a few and they were a blast.? Almost everyone was respectful and well behaved, which made things really easy and fun.? One technique I used when things got too crazy was calling by call area number, especially in conjunction with
current beam heading. The key is to manage the pileup so that folks can hear that you realize their time is important to them, and that you know what you're doing.? It's possible to be friendly, courteous, and FAST - it just takes some practice.? IMO we only
exist to hand out QSOs to as many interested folks as possible and I try to operate accordingly.? Others have different opinions and I respect them, but that one works for me.? It's also the most fun for me (enlightened self-interest?).
>
> 4. CW Pileups: They can be more problematic because of the zero beat problem created by the "click and call" gang. When I teach new hams I always stress that you must listen before you transmit, but there are thousands of hams that have not taken one of my
classes ?.? I was on the verge of going split a couple of times, but I was able
to work through the pile.
>
> 5. Having fun: most of the folks you work will mimic your attitude.? If you are crisp, efficient, polite and just sound happy, most of the folks calling you will feed off that positive energy.
>
> I had a great time this year thanks to David, the whole K2B team, and the hundreds of hams I worked in my shifts.
>
> I'll be back for more next year!
>
> Thanks team!
> Rick
> N1RM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Wright via groups.io
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 1:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
>
> Thanks, I wanted to start a separate thread for any comments or suggestions.
> So this one is fine!
>
> Here's what 13 Colonies web site says for exchange:
>
> The exchange for this event is:
> CALL SIGN
> RS / RST / RSQ
> STATE / PROVINCE or COUNTRY
> Sometimes I asked for name; usually, people volunteered it, so I did also.
>
> I think the one-hour time slot is a fantastic idea.? I was going to recommend that myself.
> Not because of commitment(s), but because two hours can be physically grueling.
> On 20 meters, with jammers, guys plopping down 1 Khz away, weak signals fading in and out, DX calling off the back of the beam.
> Not to mention the pile-ups.
>
> Tnxs also on the spreadsheet idea.
>
> David, K2WPM
> K2B Coordinator ¨C 13 Colonies
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Dodd via groups.io
> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
>
> This was my first time participating, and I came away with a few thoughts I'd like share with the group, and especially with David.
>
> ----------
> TIME SLOTS: I was frustrated by the two-hour time slots on the sign-up sheet. Several times I couldn't commit to two hours due to time constraints. One-hour slots provide more flexibility and encourage signing up.
>
> Look at it this way: Suppose I can't commit to a two-hour session from 7pm-9pm, but I can and do commit to 7-8 and start operating then. Now, at 7:50, I discover I CAN operate until 9pm, so I open the sheet to see if 8-9 is still available. It is, so I sign
up and keep on operating.
> Easy-peasy.
>
> ----------
> SUGGESTION: Modify the sign-up sheet to lock the row and column headers so they're always visible. On the current sheet, they scroll off the screen as I move around the sheet.
>
> For example, if I want to sign up for 20CW at 7-9pm, the band/mode and time headers disappear as I tab from cell-to-cell and row-to-row, so I don't know which cell to look at. Hheaders should always be visible.
>
> This is a standard operation in most spreadsheets. Here's an article:
> <>
>
> ----------
> SUGGESTION: I think 13 Colonies should eliminate the Name from the exchange. Only a few stations ever sent their name, and I didn't even know it was part of the exchange until well into the event (OK, I didn't RTFM). I didn't hear ANY K2(x) stations sending
a name. Why have it if no one sends it?
>
>
> Comments, anyone?
>
> --
> 73, Mike N4CF
> Louisa County, VA USA
> Elecraft K4d / KPA500 / KAT500
> Carolina Windom up 45'
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Wow, great job Chuck!
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You bring up an interesting point that I have been thinking about.
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Whether it¡¯s the fast CW guys, or the ¡°big gun¡± stations that are a breeze to pick out in a pileup, I found it easy to get into a ¡°rate mode¡±.? This event has become so popular that there a many times where there is plenty of such ¡°low
hanging fruit¡±.? I was trying to find a strategy to work the ¡°pileup disadvantaged¡± but it was hard.? I often listened for uncertain voices or a weak tailgate to try to pick them out.? I think I picked up a few little pistols or newbies that way, but it was
hard.
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Like most others that have described their CW operation, I found 24-26 WPM CQs with immediate QRS to the answering speed worked very well.? I did call CQ 13COL instead of just CQ 13, and I may change to the shorter CQ next year.? I think
the extra letters just slowed things down since the guys that could actually copy it already know who I was and why I was there, and it didn¡¯t do any good for the guys that couldn¡¯t copy it!
?
Sound like you had fun, and provided fun to others, which is what it¡¯s all about.
?
73,
Rick
N1RM
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of Chuck K4QS via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 6:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
?
I worked 100% CW.? The callers were well behaved for the most part.? There was often a big gap in operating skills though.? Many callers I know and have worked at 35WPM plus
in other events or contests while others were new hams or at least new to CW.? That made for some interesting moments, sort of like driving 45MPH in the left lane of the Interstate.? I tried to tailor my style to the audient at the time.? Mainly, I picked
a CQ speed somewhere in the middle to keep both the QRQ and QRS crowd interested.? Slowing down when needed or speeding up when I knew who was on the other end.
I made 1353 QSOs.? I hope I didn't leave anyone behind.
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 06:35:00 PM EDT, Ian Callahan via groups.io <iancallahan63@...>
wrote:
I was a late arrival, only working Wednesday and Thursday for just over 4 hours with 13 QSO¡¯s. Didn¡¯t have time to think of any
feedback, etc. but I had a great time doing it and hope y¡¯all will invite me back to help next year.
Ian KN4TBG
> On Jul 8, 2022, at 17:48, N1RM - Rick Miller <rick@...> wrote:
>
> ?My 2 cents:
>
> 1. David should be the prototype for 13C coordinators.? Always a positive and encouraging attitude and stayed right on top of things.? We are very fortunate!
>
> 2. Jammers:? Many already know this, but the only way to get rid of jammers is to make them realize that they are not being effective.? I only ran into serious ones on phone.? Fortunately the auto notch in the radio eliminated the carrier.? I was able to
work several stations even though sensitivity was taking a hit.? When I couldn't hear anyone else, I continued making "phantom" QSOs (or were they?) until the idiot moved on to more fertile ground.? I never had one hang around more than a minute or two.? Bottom
line, continue to sound like you're having a great time.? That is an almost universal turn-off for such silly people.
>
> 3. SSB Pileups:? I had quite a few and they were a blast.? Almost everyone was respectful and well behaved, which made things really easy and fun.? One technique I used when things got too crazy was calling by call area number, especially in conjunction with
current beam heading. The key is to manage the pileup so that folks can hear that you realize their time is important to them, and that you know what you're doing.? It's possible to be friendly, courteous, and FAST - it just takes some practice.? IMO we only
exist to hand out QSOs to as many interested folks as possible and I try to operate accordingly.? Others have different opinions and I respect them, but that one works for me.? It's also the most fun for me (enlightened self-interest?).
>
> 4. CW Pileups: They can be more problematic because of the zero beat problem created by the "click and call" gang. When I teach new hams I always stress that you must listen before you transmit, but there are thousands of hams that have not taken one of my
classes ?.? I was on the verge of going split a couple of times, but I was able
to work through the pile.
>
> 5. Having fun: most of the folks you work will mimic your attitude.? If you are crisp, efficient, polite and just sound happy, most of the folks calling you will feed off that positive energy.
>
> I had a great time this year thanks to David, the whole K2B team, and the hundreds of hams I worked in my shifts.
>
> I'll be back for more next year!
>
> Thanks team!
> Rick
> N1RM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Wright via groups.io
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 1:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
>
> Thanks, I wanted to start a separate thread for any comments or suggestions.
> So this one is fine!
>
> Here's what 13 Colonies web site says for exchange:
>
> The exchange for this event is:
> CALL SIGN
> RS / RST / RSQ
> STATE / PROVINCE or COUNTRY
> Sometimes I asked for name; usually, people volunteered it, so I did also.
>
> I think the one-hour time slot is a fantastic idea.? I was going to recommend that myself.
> Not because of commitment(s), but because two hours can be physically grueling.
> On 20 meters, with jammers, guys plopping down 1 Khz away, weak signals fading in and out, DX calling off the back of the beam.
> Not to mention the pile-ups.
>
> Tnxs also on the spreadsheet idea.
>
> David, K2WPM
> K2B Coordinator ¨C 13 Colonies
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Dodd via groups.io
> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
>
> This was my first time participating, and I came away with a few thoughts I'd like share with the group, and especially with David.
>
> ----------
> TIME SLOTS: I was frustrated by the two-hour time slots on the sign-up sheet. Several times I couldn't commit to two hours due to time constraints. One-hour slots provide more flexibility and encourage signing up.
>
> Look at it this way: Suppose I can't commit to a two-hour session from 7pm-9pm, but I can and do commit to 7-8 and start operating then. Now, at 7:50, I discover I CAN operate until 9pm, so I open the sheet to see if 8-9 is still available. It is, so I sign
up and keep on operating.
> Easy-peasy.
>
> ----------
> SUGGESTION: Modify the sign-up sheet to lock the row and column headers so they're always visible. On the current sheet, they scroll off the screen as I move around the sheet.
>
> For example, if I want to sign up for 20CW at 7-9pm, the band/mode and time headers disappear as I tab from cell-to-cell and row-to-row, so I don't know which cell to look at. Hheaders should always be visible.
>
> This is a standard operation in most spreadsheets. Here's an article:
> <>
>
> ----------
> SUGGESTION: I think 13 Colonies should eliminate the Name from the exchange. Only a few stations ever sent their name, and I didn't even know it was part of the exchange until well into the event (OK, I didn't RTFM). I didn't hear ANY K2(x) stations sending
a name. Why have it if no one sends it?
>
>
> Comments, anyone?
>
> --
> 73, Mike N4CF
> Louisa County, VA USA
> Elecraft K4d / KPA500 / KAT500
> Carolina Windom up 45'
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There were 43 sat QSOs and 5 EME here. I?did not win the race to the moon. When I got on, K2M operated by K3WM?was already QRV.?
Feedback-wise, I was unable to update the spreadsheet and sign up for satellite slots. If we have three or more ops next year, maybe we should divide by mode like HF does. I could take cw and FT4 while other ops could do phone. Unfortunately, that idea didn¡¯t hit me until almost the last day.
I enjoyed the experience! Thanks!
73,
On Friday, July 8, 2022, 7:28 PM, Steve (KS1G) <ks1g04@...> wrote: 56 satellite QSOs here.? Did not have as much time to work the event as I did in 2021.? I'll be interested in learning how KO4ENU did, he covered a lot of satellite passes for us! I'm very impressed KN2K made several EME QSOs (are these a first for 13 Colonies?)?
The K2B HF SSB pileups I heard all seemed to be well-managed by the K2B operator, so well-done there!
73 Steve KS1G
I worked 100% CW.? The callers were well behaved for the most part.? There was often a big gap in operating skills though.? Many callers I know and have worked at 35WPM plus in other events or contests while others were new hams or at least new to CW.? That made for some interesting moments, sort of like driving 45MPH in the left lane of the Interstate.? I tried to tailor my style to the audient at the time.? Mainly, I picked a CQ speed somewhere in the middle to keep both the QRQ and QRS crowd interested.? Slowing down when needed or speeding up when I knew who was on the other end.
I made 1353 QSOs.? I hope I didn't leave anyone behind.
73,
Chuck K4QS
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 06:35:00 PM EDT, Ian Callahan via <iancallahan63= [email protected]> wrote:
I was a late arrival, only working Wednesday and Thursday for just over 4 hours with 13 QSO¡¯s. Didn¡¯t have time to think of any feedback, etc. but I had a great time doing it and hope y¡¯all will invite me back to help next year. Ian KN4TBG > On Jul 8, 2022, at 17:48, N1RM - Rick Miller < rick@...> wrote: > > ?My 2 cents: > > 1. David should be the prototype for 13C coordinators.? Always a positive and encouraging attitude and stayed right on top of things.? We are very fortunate! > > 2. Jammers:? Many already know this, but the only way to get rid of jammers is to make them realize that they are not being effective.? I only ran into serious ones on phone.? Fortunately the auto notch in the radio eliminated the carrier.? I was able to work several stations even though sensitivity was taking a hit.? When I couldn't hear anyone else, I continued making "phantom" QSOs (or were they?) until the idiot moved on to more fertile ground.? I never had one hang around more than a minute or two.? Bottom line, continue to sound like you're having a great time.? That is an almost universal turn-off for such silly people. > > 3. SSB Pileups:? I had quite a few and they were a blast.? Almost everyone was respectful and well behaved, which made things really easy and fun.? One technique I used when things got too crazy was calling by call area number, especially in conjunction with current beam heading. The key is to manage the pileup so that folks can hear that you realize their time is important to them, and that you know what you're doing.? It's possible to be friendly, courteous, and FAST - it just takes some practice.? IMO we only exist to hand out QSOs to as many interested folks as possible and I try to operate accordingly.? Others have different opinions and I respect them, but that one works for me.? It's also the most fun for me (enlightened self-interest?). > > 4. CW Pileups: They can be more problematic because of the zero beat problem created by the "click and call" gang. When I teach new hams I always stress that you must listen before you transmit, but there are thousands of hams that have not taken one of my classes ?.? I was on the verge of going split a couple of times, but I was able to work through the pile. > > 5. Having fun: most of the folks you work will mimic your attitude.? If you are crisp, efficient, polite and just sound happy, most of the folks calling you will feed off that positive energy. > > I had a great time this year thanks to David, the whole K2B team, and the hundreds of hams I worked in my shifts. > > I'll be back for more next year! > > Thanks team! > Rick > N1RM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of David Wright via > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 1:22 PM > To: [email protected]> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments > > Thanks, I wanted to start a separate thread for any comments or suggestions. > So this one is fine! > > Here's what 13 Colonies web site says for exchange: > > The exchange for this event is: > CALL SIGN > RS / RST / RSQ > STATE / PROVINCE or COUNTRY > Sometimes I asked for name; usually, people volunteered it, so I did also. > > I think the one-hour time slot is a fantastic idea.? I was going to recommend that myself. > Not because of commitment(s), but because two hours can be physically grueling. > On 20 meters, with jammers, guys plopping down 1 Khz away, weak signals fading in and out, DX calling off the back of the beam. > Not to mention the pile-ups. > > Tnxs also on the spreadsheet idea. > > David, K2WPM > K2B Coordinator ¨C 13 Colonies > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Dodd via > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:45 PM > To: [email protected]> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments > > This was my first time participating, and I came away with a few thoughts I'd like share with the group, and especially with David. > > ---------- > TIME SLOTS: I was frustrated by the two-hour time slots on the sign-up sheet. Several times I couldn't commit to two hours due to time constraints. One-hour slots provide more flexibility and encourage signing up. > > Look at it this way: Suppose I can't commit to a two-hour session from 7pm-9pm, but I can and do commit to 7-8 and start operating then. Now, at 7:50, I discover I CAN operate until 9pm, so I open the sheet to see if 8-9 is still available. It is, so I sign up and keep on operating. > Easy-peasy. > > ---------- > SUGGESTION: Modify the sign-up sheet to lock the row and column headers so they're always visible. On the current sheet, they scroll off the screen as I move around the sheet. > > For example, if I want to sign up for 20CW at 7-9pm, the band/mode and time headers disappear as I tab from cell-to-cell and row-to-row, so I don't know which cell to look at. Hheaders should always be visible. > > This is a standard operation in most spreadsheets. Here's an article: > <> > > ---------- > SUGGESTION: I think 13 Colonies should eliminate the Name from the exchange. Only a few stations ever sent their name, and I didn't even know it was part of the exchange until well into the event (OK, I didn't RTFM). I didn't hear ANY K2(x) stations sending a name. Why have it if no one sends it? > > > Comments, anyone? > > -- > 73, Mike N4CF > Louisa County, VA USA > Elecraft K4d / KPA500 / KAT500 > Carolina Windom up 45' >
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Hi Bob,
I'm glad to know you worked David.? Signals were pretty good the first couple of days then not so much.? Often times I knew someone was calling, but could never get even a character out of it.? I hope these folks eventually got heard.
Chuck
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 07:56:02 PM EDT, Bob Gebeaux via groups.io <bgebeaux@...> wrote:
Congratulation on your performance in 13 col I only got 550 or so. I think my problem was I sent too slow. I sent at 13 wpm for most of the event, hoping to attract newer operators, but what really happened was I cut my numbers in half. Oh well. ?I should have sent much faster. They would know that it was k2b calling even if they didn¡¯t usually send at my speed. ? Again good work. I worked n4wdc but he was barely readable bob ? ? ? Sent from for Windows ?
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Congratulation on your performance in 13 col I only got 550 or so. I think my problem was I sent too slow. I sent at 13 wpm for most of the event, hoping to attract newer operators, but what really happened was I cut my numbers in half. Oh well. ?I should have sent much faster. They would know that it was k2b calling even if they didn¡¯t usually send at my speed. ? Again good work. I worked n4wdc but he was barely readable bob ? ? ? Sent from for Windows ?
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56 satellite QSOs here.? Did not have as much time to work the event as I did in 2021.? I'll be interested in learning how KO4ENU did, he covered a lot of satellite passes for us! I'm very impressed KN2K made several EME QSOs (are these a first for 13 Colonies?)?
The K2B HF SSB pileups I heard all seemed to be well-managed by the K2B operator, so well-done there!
73 Steve KS1G
I worked 100% CW.? The callers were well behaved for the most part.? There was often a big gap in operating skills though.? Many callers I know and have worked at 35WPM plus in other events or contests while others were new hams or at least new to CW.? That made for some interesting moments, sort of like driving 45MPH in the left lane of the Interstate.? I tried to tailor my style to the audient at the time.? Mainly, I picked a CQ speed somewhere in the middle to keep both the QRQ and QRS crowd interested.? Slowing down when needed or speeding up when I knew who was on the other end.
I made 1353 QSOs.? I hope I didn't leave anyone behind.
73,
Chuck K4QS
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 06:35:00 PM EDT, Ian Callahan via <iancallahan63= [email protected]> wrote:
I was a late arrival, only working Wednesday and Thursday for just over 4 hours with 13 QSO¡¯s. Didn¡¯t have time to think of any feedback, etc. but I had a great time doing it and hope y¡¯all will invite me back to help next year. Ian KN4TBG > On Jul 8, 2022, at 17:48, N1RM - Rick Miller < rick@...> wrote: > > ?My 2 cents: > > 1. David should be the prototype for 13C coordinators.? Always a positive and encouraging attitude and stayed right on top of things.? We are very fortunate! > > 2. Jammers:? Many already know this, but the only way to get rid of jammers is to make them realize that they are not being effective.? I only ran into serious ones on phone.? Fortunately the auto notch in the radio eliminated the carrier.? I was able to work several stations even though sensitivity was taking a hit.? When I couldn't hear anyone else, I continued making "phantom" QSOs (or were they?) until the idiot moved on to more fertile ground.? I never had one hang around more than a minute or two.? Bottom line, continue to sound like you're having a great time.? That is an almost universal turn-off for such silly people. > > 3. SSB Pileups:? I had quite a few and they were a blast.? Almost everyone was respectful and well behaved, which made things really easy and fun.? One technique I used when things got too crazy was calling by call area number, especially in conjunction with current beam heading. The key is to manage the pileup so that folks can hear that you realize their time is important to them, and that you know what you're doing.? It's possible to be friendly, courteous, and FAST - it just takes some practice.? IMO we only exist to hand out QSOs to as many interested folks as possible and I try to operate accordingly.? Others have different opinions and I respect them, but that one works for me.? It's also the most fun for me (enlightened self-interest?). > > 4. CW Pileups: They can be more problematic because of the zero beat problem created by the "click and call" gang. When I teach new hams I always stress that you must listen before you transmit, but there are thousands of hams that have not taken one of my classes ?.? I was on the verge of going split a couple of times, but I was able to work through the pile. > > 5. Having fun: most of the folks you work will mimic your attitude.? If you are crisp, efficient, polite and just sound happy, most of the folks calling you will feed off that positive energy. > > I had a great time this year thanks to David, the whole K2B team, and the hundreds of hams I worked in my shifts. > > I'll be back for more next year! > > Thanks team! > Rick > N1RM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of David Wright via > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 1:22 PM > To: [email protected]> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments > > Thanks, I wanted to start a separate thread for any comments or suggestions. > So this one is fine! > > Here's what 13 Colonies web site says for exchange: > > The exchange for this event is: > CALL SIGN > RS / RST / RSQ > STATE / PROVINCE or COUNTRY > Sometimes I asked for name; usually, people volunteered it, so I did also. > > I think the one-hour time slot is a fantastic idea.? I was going to recommend that myself. > Not because of commitment(s), but because two hours can be physically grueling. > On 20 meters, with jammers, guys plopping down 1 Khz away, weak signals fading in and out, DX calling off the back of the beam. > Not to mention the pile-ups. > > Tnxs also on the spreadsheet idea. > > David, K2WPM > K2B Coordinator ¨C 13 Colonies > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Dodd via > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:45 PM > To: [email protected]> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments > > This was my first time participating, and I came away with a few thoughts I'd like share with the group, and especially with David. > > ---------- > TIME SLOTS: I was frustrated by the two-hour time slots on the sign-up sheet. Several times I couldn't commit to two hours due to time constraints. One-hour slots provide more flexibility and encourage signing up. > > Look at it this way: Suppose I can't commit to a two-hour session from 7pm-9pm, but I can and do commit to 7-8 and start operating then. Now, at 7:50, I discover I CAN operate until 9pm, so I open the sheet to see if 8-9 is still available. It is, so I sign up and keep on operating. > Easy-peasy. > > ---------- > SUGGESTION: Modify the sign-up sheet to lock the row and column headers so they're always visible. On the current sheet, they scroll off the screen as I move around the sheet. > > For example, if I want to sign up for 20CW at 7-9pm, the band/mode and time headers disappear as I tab from cell-to-cell and row-to-row, so I don't know which cell to look at. Hheaders should always be visible. > > This is a standard operation in most spreadsheets. Here's an article: > <> > > ---------- > SUGGESTION: I think 13 Colonies should eliminate the Name from the exchange. Only a few stations ever sent their name, and I didn't even know it was part of the exchange until well into the event (OK, I didn't RTFM). I didn't hear ANY K2(x) stations sending a name. Why have it if no one sends it? > > > Comments, anyone? > > -- > 73, Mike N4CF > Louisa County, VA USA > Elecraft K4d / KPA500 / KAT500 > Carolina Windom up 45' >
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I worked 100% CW.? The callers were well behaved for the most part.? There was often a big gap in operating skills though.? Many callers I know and have worked at 35WPM plus in other events or contests while others were new hams or at least new to CW.? That made for some interesting moments, sort of like driving 45MPH in the left lane of the Interstate.? I tried to tailor my style to the audient at the time.? Mainly, I picked a CQ speed somewhere in the middle to keep both the QRQ and QRS crowd interested.? Slowing down when needed or speeding up when I knew who was on the other end.
I made 1353 QSOs.? I hope I didn't leave anyone behind.
73,
Chuck K4QS
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 06:35:00 PM EDT, Ian Callahan via groups.io <iancallahan63@...> wrote:
I was a late arrival, only working Wednesday and Thursday for just over 4 hours with 13 QSO¡¯s. Didn¡¯t have time to think of any feedback, etc. but I had a great time doing it and hope y¡¯all will invite me back to help next year. Ian KN4TBG > On Jul 8, 2022, at 17:48, N1RM - Rick Miller < rick@...> wrote: > > ?My 2 cents: > > 1. David should be the prototype for 13C coordinators.? Always a positive and encouraging attitude and stayed right on top of things.? We are very fortunate! > > 2. Jammers:? Many already know this, but the only way to get rid of jammers is to make them realize that they are not being effective.? I only ran into serious ones on phone.? Fortunately the auto notch in the radio eliminated the carrier.? I was able to work several stations even though sensitivity was taking a hit.? When I couldn't hear anyone else, I continued making "phantom" QSOs (or were they?) until the idiot moved on to more fertile ground.? I never had one hang around more than a minute or two.? Bottom line, continue to sound like you're having a great time.? That is an almost universal turn-off for such silly people. > > 3. SSB Pileups:? I had quite a few and they were a blast.? Almost everyone was respectful and well behaved, which made things really easy and fun.? One technique I used when things got too crazy was calling by call area number, especially in conjunction with current beam heading. The key is to manage the pileup so that folks can hear that you realize their time is important to them, and that you know what you're doing.? It's possible to be friendly, courteous, and FAST - it just takes some practice.? IMO we only exist to hand out QSOs to as many interested folks as possible and I try to operate accordingly.? Others have different opinions and I respect them, but that one works for me.? It's also the most fun for me (enlightened self-interest?). > > 4. CW Pileups: They can be more problematic because of the zero beat problem created by the "click and call" gang. When I teach new hams I always stress that you must listen before you transmit, but there are thousands of hams that have not taken one of my classes ?.? I was on the verge of going split a couple of times, but I was able to work through the pile. > > 5. Having fun: most of the folks you work will mimic your attitude.? If you are crisp, efficient, polite and just sound happy, most of the folks calling you will feed off that positive energy. > > I had a great time this year thanks to David, the whole K2B team, and the hundreds of hams I worked in my shifts. > > I'll be back for more next year! > > Thanks team! > Rick > N1RM > >
> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of David Wright via groups.io > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 1:22 PM > To: [email protected]> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments > > Thanks, I wanted to start a separate thread for any comments or suggestions. > So this one is fine! > > Here's what 13 Colonies web site says for exchange: > > The exchange for this event is: > CALL SIGN > RS / RST / RSQ > STATE / PROVINCE or COUNTRY > Sometimes I asked for name; usually, people volunteered it, so I did also. > > I think the one-hour time slot is a fantastic idea.? I was going to recommend that myself. > Not because of commitment(s), but because two hours can be physically grueling. > On 20 meters, with jammers, guys plopping down 1 Khz away, weak signals fading in and out, DX calling off the back of the beam. > Not to mention the pile-ups. > > Tnxs also on the spreadsheet idea. > > David, K2WPM > K2B Coordinator ¨C 13 Colonies > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Dodd via groups.io > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:45 PM > To: [email protected]> Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments > > This was my first time participating, and I came away with a few thoughts I'd like share with the group, and especially with David. > > ---------- > TIME SLOTS: I was frustrated by the two-hour time slots on the sign-up sheet. Several times I couldn't commit to two hours due to time constraints. One-hour slots provide more flexibility and encourage signing up. > > Look at it this way: Suppose I can't commit to a two-hour session from 7pm-9pm, but I can and do commit to 7-8 and start operating then. Now, at 7:50, I discover I CAN operate until 9pm, so I open the sheet to see if 8-9 is still available. It is, so I sign up and keep on operating. > Easy-peasy. > > ---------- > SUGGESTION: Modify the sign-up sheet to lock the row and column headers so they're always visible. On the current sheet, they scroll off the screen as I move around the sheet. > > For example, if I want to sign up for 20CW at 7-9pm, the band/mode and time headers disappear as I tab from cell-to-cell and row-to-row, so I don't know which cell to look at. Hheaders should always be visible. > > This is a standard operation in most spreadsheets. Here's an article: > <> > > ---------- > SUGGESTION: I think 13 Colonies should eliminate the Name from the exchange. Only a few stations ever sent their name, and I didn't even know it was part of the exchange until well into the event (OK, I didn't RTFM). I didn't hear ANY K2(x) stations sending a name. Why have it if no one sends it? > > > Comments, anyone? > > -- > 73, Mike N4CF > Louisa County, VA USA > Elecraft K4d / KPA500 / KAT500 > Carolina Windom up 45' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Feedback and comments
I was a late arrival, only working Wednesday and Thursday for just over 4 hours with 13 QSO¡¯s. Didn¡¯t have time to think of any feedback, etc. but I had a great time doing it and hope y¡¯all will invite me back to help next year.
Ian KN4TBG
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On Jul 8, 2022, at 17:48, N1RM - Rick Miller <rick@...> wrote:
?My 2 cents:
1. David should be the prototype for 13C coordinators. Always a positive and encouraging attitude and stayed right on top of things. We are very fortunate!
2. Jammers: Many already know this, but the only way to get rid of jammers is to make them realize that they are not being effective. I only ran into serious ones on phone. Fortunately the auto notch in the radio eliminated the carrier. I was able to work several stations even though sensitivity was taking a hit. When I couldn't hear anyone else, I continued making "phantom" QSOs (or were they?) until the idiot moved on to more fertile ground. I never had one hang around more than a minute or two. Bottom line, continue to sound like you're having a great time. That is an almost universal turn-off for such silly people.
3. SSB Pileups: I had quite a few and they were a blast. Almost everyone was respectful and well behaved, which made things really easy and fun. One technique I used when things got too crazy was calling by call area number, especially in conjunction with current beam heading. The key is to manage the pileup so that folks can hear that you realize their time is important to them, and that you know what you're doing. It's possible to be friendly, courteous, and FAST - it just takes some practice. IMO we only exist to hand out QSOs to as many interested folks as possible and I try to operate accordingly. Others have different opinions and I respect them, but that one works for me. It's also the most fun for me (enlightened self-interest?).
4. CW Pileups: They can be more problematic because of the zero beat problem created by the "click and call" gang. When I teach new hams I always stress that you must listen before you transmit, but there are thousands of hams that have not taken one of my classes ?. I was on the verge of going split a couple of times, but I was able to work through the pile.
5. Having fun: most of the folks you work will mimic your attitude. If you are crisp, efficient, polite and just sound happy, most of the folks calling you will feed off that positive energy.
I had a great time this year thanks to David, the whole K2B team, and the hundreds of hams I worked in my shifts.
I'll be back for more next year!
Thanks team!
Rick
N1RM
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Wright via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 1:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
Thanks, I wanted to start a separate thread for any comments or suggestions.
So this one is fine!
Here's what 13 Colonies web site says for exchange:
The exchange for this event is:
CALL SIGN
RS / RST / RSQ
STATE / PROVINCE or COUNTRY
Sometimes I asked for name; usually, people volunteered it, so I did also.
I think the one-hour time slot is a fantastic idea. I was going to recommend that myself.
Not because of commitment(s), but because two hours can be physically grueling.
On 20 meters, with jammers, guys plopping down 1 Khz away, weak signals fading in and out, DX calling off the back of the beam.
Not to mention the pile-ups.
Tnxs also on the spreadsheet idea.
David, K2WPM
K2B Coordinator ¨C 13 Colonies
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Dodd via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
This was my first time participating, and I came away with a few thoughts I'd like share with the group, and especially with David.
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TIME SLOTS: I was frustrated by the two-hour time slots on the sign-up sheet. Several times I couldn't commit to two hours due to time constraints. One-hour slots provide more flexibility and encourage signing up.
Look at it this way: Suppose I can't commit to a two-hour session from 7pm-9pm, but I can and do commit to 7-8 and start operating then. Now, at 7:50, I discover I CAN operate until 9pm, so I open the sheet to see if 8-9 is still available. It is, so I sign up and keep on operating.
Easy-peasy.
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SUGGESTION: Modify the sign-up sheet to lock the row and column headers so they're always visible. On the current sheet, they scroll off the screen as I move around the sheet.
For example, if I want to sign up for 20CW at 7-9pm, the band/mode and time headers disappear as I tab from cell-to-cell and row-to-row, so I don't know which cell to look at. Hheaders should always be visible.
This is a standard operation in most spreadsheets. Here's an article:
<>
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SUGGESTION: I think 13 Colonies should eliminate the Name from the exchange. Only a few stations ever sent their name, and I didn't even know it was part of the exchange until well into the event (OK, I didn't RTFM). I didn't hear ANY K2(x) stations sending a name. Why have it if no one sends it?
Comments, anyone?
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73, Mike N4CF
Louisa County, VA USA
Elecraft K4d / KPA500 / KAT500
Carolina Windom up 45'
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Re: Feedback and comments
What Rick said.?
I don¡¯t mind some friendly rivalry among the states, the key word being *friendly.* We¡¯re doing this to have fun and enable others to have fun. It isn¡¯t CQ World Wide.?
I¡¯ve enjoyed doing this event and being part of the team. 73, Kay N3KN
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 5:48 PM N1RM - Rick Miller < rick@...> wrote: My 2 cents:
1. David should be the prototype for 13C coordinators.? Always a positive and encouraging attitude and stayed right on top of things.? We are very fortunate!
2. Jammers:? Many already know this, but the only way to get rid of jammers is to make them realize that they are not being effective.? I only ran into serious ones on phone.? Fortunately the auto notch in the radio eliminated the carrier.? I was able to work several stations even though sensitivity was taking a hit.? When I couldn't hear anyone else, I continued making "phantom" QSOs (or were they?) until the idiot moved on to more fertile ground.? I never had one hang around more than a minute or two.? Bottom line, continue to sound like you're having a great time.? That is an almost universal turn-off for such silly people.
3. SSB Pileups:? I had quite a few and they were a blast.? Almost everyone was respectful and well behaved, which made things really easy and fun.? One technique I used when things got too crazy was calling by call area number, especially in conjunction with current beam heading. The key is to manage the pileup so that folks can hear that you realize their time is important to them, and that you know what you're doing.? It's possible to be friendly, courteous, and FAST - it just takes some practice.? IMO we only exist to hand out QSOs to as many interested folks as possible and I try to operate accordingly.? Others have different opinions and I respect them, but that one works for me.? It's also the most fun for me (enlightened self-interest?).
4. CW Pileups: They can be more problematic because of the zero beat problem created by the "click and call" gang. When I teach new hams I always stress that you must listen before you transmit, but there are thousands of hams that have not taken one of my classes ?.? I was on the verge of going split a couple of times, but I was able to work through the pile.
5. Having fun: most of the folks you work will mimic your attitude.? If you are crisp, efficient, polite and just sound happy, most of the folks calling you will feed off that positive energy.
I had a great time this year thanks to David, the whole K2B team, and the hundreds of hams I worked in my shifts.
I'll be back for more next year!
Thanks team!
Rick
N1RM
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Wright via
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 1:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
Thanks, I wanted to start a separate thread for any comments or suggestions.
So this one is fine!
Here's what 13 Colonies web site says for exchange:
The exchange for this event is:
CALL SIGN
RS / RST / RSQ
STATE / PROVINCE or COUNTRY
Sometimes I asked for name; usually, people volunteered it, so I did also.
I think the one-hour time slot is a fantastic idea.? I was going to recommend that myself.
Not because of commitment(s), but because two hours can be physically grueling.
On 20 meters, with jammers, guys plopping down 1 Khz away, weak signals fading in and out, DX calling off the back of the beam.
Not to mention the pile-ups.
Tnxs also on the spreadsheet idea.
David, K2WPM
K2B Coordinator ¨C 13 Colonies
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Dodd via
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [K2B-13Colonies2022] Feedback and comments
This was my first time participating, and I came away with a few thoughts I'd like share with the group, and especially with David.
----------
TIME SLOTS: I was frustrated by the two-hour time slots on the sign-up sheet. Several times I couldn't commit to two hours due to time constraints. One-hour slots provide more flexibility and encourage signing up.
Look at it this way: Suppose I can't commit to a two-hour session from 7pm-9pm, but I can and do commit to 7-8 and start operating then. Now, at 7:50, I discover I CAN operate until 9pm, so I open the sheet to see if 8-9 is still available. It is, so I sign up and keep on operating.
Easy-peasy.
----------
SUGGESTION: Modify the sign-up sheet to lock the row and column headers so they're always visible. On the current sheet, they scroll off the screen as I move around the sheet.
For example, if I want to sign up for 20CW at 7-9pm, the band/mode and time headers disappear as I tab from cell-to-cell and row-to-row, so I don't know which cell to look at. Hheaders should always be visible.
This is a standard operation in most spreadsheets. Here's an article:
<>
----------
SUGGESTION: I think 13 Colonies should eliminate the Name from the exchange. Only a few stations ever sent their name, and I didn't even know it was part of the exchange until well into the event (OK, I didn't RTFM). I didn't hear ANY K2(x) stations sending a name. Why have it if no one sends it?
Comments, anyone?
--
73, Mike N4CF
Louisa County, VA USA
Elecraft K4d / KPA500 / KAT500
Carolina Windom up 45'
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N1RM - Rick Miller
Chuck K4QS
Bob Gebeaux KA3OCS
Kay N3KN