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Hey Bobby,

Spooky Tooth, eh? Er, um, OK, to each his own. You mentioned Leslie
West, and while he has great tone, his playing, while really good, wasn't too
"impressive", solo-wise; another great-sounding player was Larry Byrom from
Steppenwolf. This was a lot of fun...

While not exactly "rock" per se, this is really influenced by rock, and one
of my favorite songs in this genre. Every solo by Holdsworth is a work of
beauty, this one starts around 3:50, and you can also see how he switches
to hybrid picking when they go back to the head:

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Cheers,
JV

Juan Vega

Here ya go:

Luther Grosvenor (pseudonym "Ariel Bender") on guitar (1969):

Wow!
Not a single response.

Oh, well. This was fun. A whole day and only two responses to posts on damned picks.

sorry you didn't like it - I still do,
Bobby

On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Bob Hansmann wrote:

Wow!
Not a single response.

I'll give it some love.

I had never heard the song before. I thought the solo was passionate
and inspired. (I thought the outro solos were even more passionate.) I
also loved the tone.

When I was considering my choices, I tried to think of the most
lyrical solo--the one that I felt served the song the best. I wasn't
necessarily going for the most technically difficult solo. If that had
been my priority, I would have gone in a completely different direction.

I think your pick has emotion and feel in spades. The guy has some
very good pentatonic chops, too. I didn't feel like it was
particularly lyrical, though.

So, what makes you declare it the #1 rock guitar solo ever? What
qualities does it have that you'd rank it that high?

Jeff

On 10/21/2010 5:53 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote:

I'll give it some love... &c.

Thank you, Jeff.
That solo, in my opinion, is the primal scream that Rock is all about. Some guys come close, even Scottie Moore at times, and a lot of Jimi, but the point of Rock is not necessarily the notes, but how you use them. You don't find that solo lyrical, but I do. I think that if you listen to it a few times, you'll feel, as I do, that it's exactly what that tune is trying to say.

best always,
Bobby

Bob Hansmann wrote:

Luther Grosvenor (pseudonym "Ariel Bender") on guitar (1969):

I gotta disagree with this. I never did enjoy that kind of nervous, almost frantic, vibrato. The phrasing sounds awkward to my ears as well. Tonewise, I hear hints of Martin Barre (Jethro Tull) and John Cippolina (Quicksilver Messenger Service), but I prefer both of those players' phrasing, sound, and technique to what I hear in this solo.

FWIW, I think it's an exercise in futility to argue about the "best" of anything musical, and I could never narrow down my favorites far enough to argue in favor of a single "best." My favorite rock guitar solos include Jimi's in the title cut on "Axis Bold as Love," Jim McCarty's in "Parchman Farm" on the first Cactus album, Todd Rundgren's in "Hang On Paul" on the "Nazz Nazz" album, Larry Carlton's in "Third World Man" on Steely Dan's "Gaucho" album, and lots of others that don't immediately come to mind.

Jay

On 10/21/2010 5:57 PM, Jay Mitchell wrote:

I gotta disagree with this. I never did enjoy that kind of nervous, almost
frantic, vibrato....&c.

Well, we're just going to have to wait for Angelo to weigh in on this one. He's got the open-minded way o' lookin' at things. If'n he doesn't like it, then I for sure still do. I maintain that it's the best rock solo ever.

Bobby

Bob Hansmann wrote:

I maintain that it's the best rock
solo ever.

THIS is the best rock guitar solo ever: .

No 'bout a-doubt it.

Jay

Hi Jay,

THIS is the best rock guitar solo ever:
.

No 'bout a-doubt it.

Now THAT was a response. Thank you!!!!! !!

:-)
Bobby

Luckily, you have every right to.
I wonder if anybody here agrees? Of course that doesn't matter in the
least.
I could never name a favorite, but now I know of one that isn't on my
list!
Peace,
Scott



I maintain that it's the best

rock
solo ever.

Bobby

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John Cippolina was wonderful. Much to overlooked.



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From: Jay Mitchell
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Bob Hansmann wrote:

Luther Grosvenor (pseudonym "Ariel Bender") on guitar (1969):

I gotta disagree with this. I never did enjoy that kind of nervous, almost
frantic, vibrato. The phrasing sounds awkward to my ears as well. Tonewise,
I hear hints of Martin Barre (Jethro Tull) and John Cippolina (Quicksilver
Messenger Service), but I prefer both of those players' phrasing, sound, and
technique to what I hear in this solo.

FWIW, I think it's an exercise in futility to argue about the "best" of
anything musical, and I could never narrow down my favorites far enough to
argue in favor of a single "best." My favorite rock guitar solos include
Jimi's in the title cut on "Axis Bold as Love," Jim McCarty's in "Parchman
Farm" on the first Cactus album, Todd Rundgren's in "Hang On Paul" on the
"Nazz Nazz" album, Larry Carlton's in "Third World Man" on Steely Dan's
"Gaucho" album, and lots of others that don't immediately come to mind.

Jay

.. can I ask where this tread is going ... and why?
John Amato
Isaiah 55:11








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From: Brian Kelly <bkelly@...>
To: jazz_guitar@...
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 10:55:12 PM
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] best rock gtr. solo of all time


John Cippolina was wonderful. Much to overlooked.

Brian

From: Jay Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:57 PM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] best rock gtr. solo of all time

Bob Hansmann wrote:

Luther Grosvenor (pseudonym "Ariel Bender") on guitar (1969):

I gotta disagree with this. I never did enjoy that kind of nervous, almost
frantic, vibrato. The phrasing sounds awkward to my ears as well. Tonewise,
I hear hints of Martin Barre (Jethro Tull) and John Cippolina (Quicksilver
Messenger Service), but I prefer both of those players' phrasing, sound, and
technique to what I hear in this solo.

FWIW, I think it's an exercise in futility to argue about the "best" of
anything musical, and I could never narrow down my favorites far enough to
argue in favor of a single "best." My favorite rock guitar solos include
Jimi's in the title cut on "Axis Bold as Love," Jim McCarty's in "Parchman
Farm" on the first Cactus album, Todd Rundgren's in "Hang On Paul" on the
"Nazz Nazz" album, Larry Carlton's in "Third World Man" on Steely Dan's
"Gaucho" album, and lots of others that don't immediately come to mind.

Jay

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Well, it certainly was "full of sound and fury"....

On 10/21/2010 11:18 PM, John Amato wrote:

.. can I ask where this tread is going ... and why?

Yeah - it got us off of picks for a while, and it was fun. Many thanks to all for playing this game - especially some of the players you guys thought of. As far as "Bobby mind changers" go, I just had to stick with mine because if I didn't I'd have had no link to send y'all. I do think it's a great solo, though. I checked out the remake of the tune (new player - he sucks), and let me tell ye - a solo ca make a tune, and a solo can break a tune...

warmest regards to you all,
Bobby

On 10/22/2010 2:03 AM, Angelo wrote:

Well, it certainly was "full of sound and fury"....

And that is that. All you whiners and cry-babies - Angelo has spoken!

It IS the best rock solo in history!!!!!

Bobby