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Jazzers: Well, I took the plunge, bought a bass
(g)string and tuned my Es 150 down a 5th according to
the directions someone posted (thanks to whomever it
was!). (A, D, G, C, E, A) It sounds very cool. You
have to learn to avoid muddiness, but it has real
possibilities. I will probably start to bring it as a
second guitar to my gigs for a little variety. I can't
believe the rockers don't try this tuning. THe power
chords are intense, if you are into that (I'm not). It
is especially useful for accompianament. Great walking
bass. I may even try a gig without a bass player! A
question: Why call it an alto tuning? Wouldn't that
make normal guitar a soprano? Shouldn't the tuning be
called tenor since it is the next possibility up from
a bass? And shouldn't the normal guitar be called alto
then? It seems that there is such a thing called a
tenor guitar, but I don't remember what it was. Just a
thought.

Randy Groves

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J. Randall Groves, Ph.D. ("Rando")
Professor of Humanities
Ferris State University
groves@...
bebopguitar@...

The tenor guitar was a four string guitar that was tuned

D G B E (i think)

and was used as a guitar for banjo players once
dixieland started to die out.


-c l i f t o n

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., Randy Groves <bebopguitar@y...> wrote:

Jazzers: Well, I took the plunge, bought a bass
(g)string and tuned my Es 150 down a 5th according to
the directions someone posted (thanks to whomever it
was!). (A, D, G, C, E, A) It sounds very cool. You
have to learn to avoid muddiness, but it has real
possibilities. I will probably start to bring it as a
second guitar to my gigs for a little variety. I can't
believe the rockers don't try this tuning.

You obviously haven't been reading the guitar magazines lately! There
are instruments (baritone guitars) built specifically for this tuning.

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., Randy Groves <bebopguitar@y...> wrote:

Jazzers: Well, I took the plunge, bought a bass
(g)string and tuned my Es 150 down a 5th according to
the directions someone posted (thanks to whomever it
was!).

So your pickups pickup the bass string okay? Did you have to alter
the nut and the bridge? Any other mods you have to make to the
guitar?

And shouldn't the normal guitar be called alto
then?

The term "alto guitar" (or "Altgitarren") usually refers to an 11
stringed guitar tuned g1-d1-a-f-c-G-F-Ess-D-C-B (lute tuning). It's
used in guitar orchestras and is best-known in Sweden. For more info
check out:

It seems that there is such a thing called a
tenor guitar, but I don't remember what it was. Just a
thought.

A tenor guitar is a four-stringed instrument most often tuned in
fifths. Usually it's tuned CGDA but it can also be tuned GDAE or
even AEAE or ADAD. It's useful for banjoists, mandolinists and
violinists who are used to playing on instruments tuned in fifths.
Because of the widespread prejudice against banjoists
("Huh! 'Deliverance'!") and against original jazz ("Huh! Dixieland!")
tenor guitars tend to be undervalued on the used instrument market,
although that appears to be changing. For more info check out:


I myself just purchased a cheap tenor guitar for less money than I'm
paying the luthier to fix it. I like the sounds that the different
chord voicings suggest and playing single note leads on strings tuned
in fifths suggest different possibilities to me. It won't be my main
axe by any means but it will be another item in my bag of tricks.

Cheers,
Kevin
www.TheNettles.com

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., Randy Groves <bebopguitar@y...> wrote:

Jazzers: Well, I took the plunge, bought a bass
(g)string and tuned my Es 150 down a 5th according to
the directions someone posted (thanks to whomever it
was!). (A, D, G, C, E, A)...>

You obviously haven't been reading the guitar magazines lately!

There

are instruments (baritone guitars) built specifically for this

tuning.

Maybe Randy has, maybe Randy hasn't. If the G & C strings are up one
octave, then it's a Joe Beck - style alto guitar. If the G and C
strings are also tuned down then it's a variant of the baritone
guitar.

Cheers,
Kevin
www.TheNettles.com

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:

You obviously haven't been reading the guitar magazines lately!

He shouldn't have to. This group is more useful glossy publications
stuffed with advertisements.

Paolo

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., kevinj@r... wrote:

A tenor guitar is a four-stringed instrument most often tuned in
fifths. Usually it's tuned CGDA

That's what I thought! My friend has one -- a beautiful instrument!

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., kevinj@r... wrote:

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., Randy Groves <bebopguitar@y...> wrote:

Jazzers: Well, I took the plunge, bought a bass
(g)string and tuned my Es 150 down a 5th according to
the directions someone posted (thanks to whomever it
was!). (A, D, G, C, E, A)...>

You obviously haven't been reading the guitar magazines lately!

Maybe Randy has, maybe Randy hasn't.

I wrote that in reply to Randy's comment (which you clipped) that
he's suprised the rockers aren't using this tuning. My reply was
meant to imply that indeed they are, big time.

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., phv40@h... wrote:

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:

You obviously haven't been reading the guitar magazines lately!

He shouldn't have to. This group is more useful glossy
publications stuffed with advertisements.

Paolo

Hi Paolo,

This is unfair. I simply meant to point out that a large number of
rock musicians are using the baritone tuning, since he said they
weren't. By no means did I suggest that he go out and buy some rock
guitar magazines, let alone as a substitute for this list!

Please don't take my comments out of context, OK?

Your friend,
Paolo #2.