Mick Goodrick's Advancing Guitarist

Steve chili Grebanier

Hi,

I've been lurking on the jazz guitar group for some time now
and genuinely enjoy many of the topics. 

I'm looking for opinions on Mick Goodrick's concept (from
his book "The Advancing Guitarist") of starting students off
by playing on a single string with one finger. 

As someone who has been playing for some time now, I find it
a great exercise. Playing on one string truly allows one to
see (and hear) the scale intervals in a linear fashion; thus
breaking down the usual mystique that comes with learning
scales (and chords) on the guitar; and as you move on to the
other strings you start natarually seeing and hearing how
the different strings relate to each other. From this,
shapes and patterns begin to appear that aren't based in
"boxed in" finger patterns. 

Opinions?


Chili

Patricio Murphy

#3076

[...]
I'm looking for opinions on Mick Goodrick's concept (from
his book "The Advancing Guitarist") of starting students off
by playing on a single string with one finger.[...]

A while back I saw a video of Yehudi Menuhin practising the violin, and, you
guessed it, he was playing scales going up and down each string, sometimes
with just one finger. I think the guitar's tuning "helps" a lot to get
stucked in position playing. I'm playing mandolin too right now and the
fifths tuning makes yuo move a lot more.
I think viewing the guitar in "horizontal" is of utmost importance, and, as
Mr.Goodrick mentiones in his book, most of the best guitar players in the
world do it, so there must be something to it!
The Advancing Guitarist is a hell of a book, in that he just throws tons of
concepts and you're entirely responsable for what you do with them. No
licks, no shorcuts, but a lifetime of work ahead. I like it. :-)
Patricio Murphy
NAN - Buenos Aires, Argentina

Mark Stanley

#3080

That Goodrich excercise really helped my
musicality. I think any limitations like that really
force you to discover new things.

--- Steve chili Grebanier <chili@...> wrote:

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Hi,

I've been lurking on the jazz guitar group for some
time now
and genuinely enjoy many of the topics. 

I'm looking for opinions on Mick Goodrick's concept
(from
his book "The Advancing Guitarist") of starting
students off
by playing on a single string with one finger. 

As someone who has been playing for some time now, I
find it
a great exercise. Playing on one string truly allows
one to
see (and hear) the scale intervals in a linear
fashion; thus
breaking down the usual mystique that comes with
learning
scales (and chords) on the guitar; and as you move
on to the
other strings you start natarually seeing and
hearing how
the different strings relate to each other. From
this,
shapes and patterns begin to appear that aren't
based in
"boxed in" finger patterns. 

Opinions?


Chili

Steve chili Grebanier

#3110

I guess my question is more...Do you think this system
is a good way to start off a student?

Mark Stanley wrote:

Show quoted text

That Goodrich excercise really helped my
musicality. I think any limitations like that really
force you to discover new things.

--- Steve chili Grebanier <chili@...> wrote:
Hi,

I've been lurking on the jazz guitar group for some
time now
and genuinely enjoy many of the topics.

I'm looking for opinions on Mick Goodrick's concept
(from
his book "The Advancing Guitarist") of starting
students off
by playing on a single string with one finger.

As someone who has been playing for some time now, I
find it
a great exercise. Playing on one string truly allows
one to
see (and hear) the scale intervals in a linear
fashion; thus
breaking down the usual mystique that comes with
learning
scales (and chords) on the guitar; and as you move
on to the
other strings you start natarually seeing and
hearing how
the different strings relate to each other. From
this,
shapes and patterns begin to appear that aren't
based in
"boxed in" finger patterns.

Opinions?


Chili

Mark Stanley

#3111

It might be a little heavy for someone
who has only been playing for a year or
two. You should probably know your instrument
pretty well before delving into that.
Maybe after the student knows all scales,arps and
modes.
Mark


--- Steve chili Grebanier <chili@...> wrote:

Show quoted text

I guess my question is more...Do you think this
system
is a good way to start off a student?

Mark Stanley wrote:

That Goodrich excercise really helped my
musicality. I think any limitations like thatreally
force you to discover new things.

--- Steve chili Grebanier <chili@...>wrote:
Hi,

I've been lurking on the jazz guitar group forsome
time now
and genuinely enjoy many of the topics.

I'm looking for opinions on Mick Goodrick'sconcept
(from
his book "The Advancing Guitarist") of starting
students off
by playing on a single string with one finger.

As someone who has been playing for some timenow, I
find it
a great exercise. Playing on one string trulyallows
one to
see (and hear) the scale intervals in a linear
fashion; thus
breaking down the usual mystique that comes with
learning
scales (and chords) on the guitar; and as youmove
on to the
other strings you start natarually seeing and
hearing how
the different strings relate to each other. From
this,
shapes and patterns begin to appear that aren't
based in
"boxed in" finger patterns.

Opinions?


Chili

Patricio Murphy

#3114

I guess my question is more...Do you think this system
is a good way to start off a student?I would say yes. Besides, it's a fabulous way of teaching the structure of
each scale.
But, why stick to just one view/method? I guess it will depend on each
particular student, but you can work both ways.

Patricio Murphy
NAN - Buenos Aires, Argentina

David E. Lee

#3129

I was just given a copy of Mick's new book on guitar voice leading.  Unbelievable. Incredibly beautiful sounds. A thouroughly intimidating system by which you can expand your chord vocabulary beyond what you thought was possible.  This was a mind bending eye opener.  Check this out:

I started digesting this material about 9 months ago and it's made the harmonic possiblities of the guitar so clear.  That's all I can say now.
David

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At 12:58 PM 8/8/01 -0400, you wrote:
Hi,

I've been lurking on the jazz guitar group for some time now
and genuinely enjoy many of the topics.

I'm looking for opinions on Mick Goodrick's concept (from
his book "The Advancing Guitarist") of starting students off
by playing on a single string with one finger.

As someone who has been playing for some time now, I find it
a great exercise. Playing on one string truly allows one to
see (and hear) the scale intervals in a linear fashion; thus
breaking down the usual mystique that comes with learning
scales (and chords) on the guitar; and as you move on to the
other strings you start natarually seeing and hearing how
the different strings relate to each other. From this,
shapes and patterns begin to appear that aren't based in
"boxed in" finger patterns.

Opinions?


Chili

David E. Lee

#3130

Mick's method is not a method, his system not really a system.  I see it more as an attitude that is a very powerful one and one that recognizes that you can go as far as your resources allow you.  For a beginning student though, don't underestimate the need for a beginner to have concrete things.  Good listening examples, things to work on, a constant guide to put the theory in context and still maintain the excitement of spontaneity.  Mick's attitude will last maybe a lifetime for me but still, a starting student may need a little more than exposure to the possibilites to achieve that all important feeling of accomplishment and confidence.  Just my opinion.
David

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At 01:22 PM 8/10/01 -0400, you wrote:
I guess my question is more...Do you think this system
is a good way to start off a student?

Mark Stanley wrote:

That Goodrich excercise really helped my
musicality. I think any limitations like that really
force you to discover new things.

--- Steve chili Grebanier <chili@...> wrote:
Hi,

I've been lurking on the jazz guitar group for some
time now
and genuinely enjoy many of the topics.

I'm looking for opinions on Mick Goodrick's concept
(from
his book "The Advancing Guitarist") of starting
students off
by playing on a single string with one finger.

As someone who has been playing for some time now, I
find it
a great exercise. Playing on one string truly allows
one to
see (and hear) the scale intervals in a linear
fashion; thus
breaking down the usual mystique that comes with
learning
scales (and chords) on the guitar; and as you move
on to the
other strings you start natarually seeing and
hearing how
the different strings relate to each other. From
this,
shapes and patterns begin to appear that aren't
based in
"boxed in" finger patterns.

Opinions?


Chili

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