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---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ellen Moody <ellen.moody@...> Date: Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 8:05?AM Subject: Ellen health bulletin To: [email protected] Group Moderators < [email protected]>, < [email protected]> Thank you to Rory. Yesterday I had an unexplained relapse. i felt stiff, my left leg detached, not working, sudden soreness, i could talk, but slower. i called Kaiser, they called 911. after several hours & tests, the emergency folk & staff ascertained i hadn't had a stroke. So i was sent home. i've lost ground over larger mobility. my left leg struggles to do its part. so too the left hand. neither had recovered properly. luckily i can read and will carry on, but probably post less -- shorter rather than fewer (I hope). i look forward today all the more to Dr Thorne for an umpteenth time, part of chapter 3 of Il Gattopardo. An English friend is coming to visit, and i have one nice zoom on Manhattan nightlife in the 1950s, and my Thursday evening chat via zoom with autistic friends (40 minutes). this weekend I'll start the Italian version by Visconti. I will now not watch both. i will carry on with Winifred Holtby and my women's studies (Susan Hill just nw still on that landing with Howard's End on her lap. so I'm here, grateful as ever for everyone's friendship. a bit of a headache now, off to et porridge Love and friendship as Austen called one of her books Ellen On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 4:07?AM Susan B via groups.io <smbiddle15@...> wrote:
Many thanks, Rory, for passing on this message
I'm glad to hear that it was not another stroke, and that Ellen is now home again - hopefully with all the support she needs. Please do pass on my very best wishes to her, and tell her I will be thinking of her and wishing her well, when you are in touch with her.
Best wishes, and thank you
Susan
On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 at 09:03, Rory O'Farrell via groups.io <ofarrwrk@...> wrote:
Ellen has asked me to inform all that she was in Alexandria Emergency Room with a suspected stroke. Later they decided she was no having one and has been returned home.
She says (now returned home) that "These inexplicable things happen"; she is weaker, more trouble walking and will try to arrange private physio therapy.
I am sure we all wish her well, and will understand if she posts infrequently at present.
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Rory O'Farrell <ofarrwrk@...>
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Glad you are still posting, but sad and concerned for the weakness you feel. It is really the pits to feel insecure when walking. Nancy
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Indeed. This is not the first time after a bout in an American hospital emergency room, people have offered to put me in a cab when I was clearly not up to it. I'm sure there is nothing unusual about me. Ellen On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 11:08?AM Nancy Mayer via groups.io <regencyresearcher@...> wrote:
Glad you are still posting, but sad and concerned for the weakness you
feel. It is really the pits to feel insecure when walking.
Nancy
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I am not a doctor nor anything medical.
That said, my opinion is that you need a second opinion.
From a different set of doctors, in a different hospital.
Tell them someone else suggested it might be ischemic, and
_ask_ what they think. Also ask what their Plan is for the
continuing weakness and lack of use of the leg.
Be sure to use the word "plan" - I hear that it has significant
meaning in a medical context.
This all advice I have seen for getting past the blinkers and egos.
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Thank you, Tamar, for giving Ellen that good advice to be proactive (and I would add, to ask her loved ones to be proactive on Ellen's behalf) - our health care system responds to the squeaky wheel, and it neglects those who don't push for more attention and better care. I would also suggest getting a referral to a physical therapist to assess your condition, Ellen, and perhaps figure out exercises you could be doing regularly that would preserve and improve your physical capacities. Hang in there, Ellen. ARNIE On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:32?PM Tamar Lindsay via groups.io <dicconf= [email protected]> wrote: I am not a doctor nor anything medical.
That said, my opinion is that you need a second opinion.
From a different set of doctors, in a different hospital.
Tell them someone else suggested it might be ischemic, and
_ask_ what they think. Also ask what their Plan is for the
continuing weakness and lack of use of the leg.
Be sure to use the word "plan" - I hear that it has significant
meaning in a medical context.
This all advice I have seen for getting past the blinkers and egos.
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I do what is in my character to do -- Ellen On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 8:02?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io <arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
Thank you, Tamar, for giving Ellen that good advice to be proactive (and I
would add, to ask her loved ones to be proactive on Ellen's behalf) - our
health care system responds to the squeaky wheel, and it neglects those who
don't push for more attention and better care.
I would also suggest getting a referral to a physical therapist to assess
your condition, Ellen, and perhaps figure out exercises you could be doing
regularly that would preserve and improve your physical capacities.
Hang in there, Ellen.
ARNIE
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:32?PM Tamar Lindsay via groups.io <dicconf=
[email protected]> wrote:
I am not a doctor nor anything medical.
That said, my opinion is that you need a second opinion.
From a different set of doctors, in a different hospital.
Tell them someone else suggested it might be ischemic, and
_ask_ what they think. Also ask what their Plan is for the
continuing weakness and lack of use of the leg.
Be sure to use the word "plan" - I hear that it has significant
meaning in a medical context.
This all advice I have seen for getting past the blinkers and egos.
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It is indeed your life to live.
Arnie
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On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:37?AM, Ellen Moody via groups.io <ellen.moody@...> wrote:
?I do what is in my character to do --
Ellen
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 8:02?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io
<arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
Thank you, Tamar, for giving Ellen that good advice to be proactive (and I would add, to ask her loved ones to be proactive on Ellen's behalf) - our health care system responds to the squeaky wheel, and it neglects those who
don't push for more attention and better care.
I would also suggest getting a referral to a physical therapist to assess your condition, Ellen, and perhaps figure out exercises you could be doing my regularly that would preserve and improve your physical capacities.
Hang in there, Ellen.
ARNIE
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:32?PM Tamar Lindsay via groups.io <dicconf=
[email protected]> wrote:
I am not a doctor nor anything medical.
That said, my opinion is that you need a second opinion. From a different set of doctors, in a different hospital.
Tell them someone else suggested it might be ischemic, and _ask_ what they think. Also ask what their Plan is for the continuing weakness and lack of use of the leg. Be sure to use the word "plan" - I hear that it has significant meaning in a medical context.
This all advice I have seen for getting past the blinkers and egos.
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To Arnie, I can't resist replying I should have guessed you'd end up condescending and judging. E.M. On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 12:38?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io <arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
It is indeed your life to live.
Arnie
On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:37?AM, Ellen Moody via groups.io <ellen.moody@...> wrote:
?I do what is in my character to do --
Ellen
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 8:02?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io
<arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
Thank you, Tamar, for giving Ellen that good advice to be proactive (and I would add, to ask her loved ones to be proactive on Ellen's behalf) - our health care system responds to the squeaky wheel, and it neglects those who
don't push for more attention and better care.
I would also suggest getting a referral to a physical therapist to assess your condition, Ellen, and perhaps figure out exercises you could be doing my regularly that would preserve and improve your physical capacities.
Hang in there, Ellen.
ARNIE
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:32?PM Tamar Lindsay via groups.io <dicconf=
[email protected]> wrote:
I am not a doctor nor anything medical.
That said, my opinion is that you need a second opinion. From a different set of doctors, in a different hospital.
Tell them someone else suggested it might be ischemic, and _ask_ what they think. Also ask what their Plan is for the continuing weakness and lack of use of the leg. Be sure to use the word "plan" - I hear that it has significant meaning in a medical context.
This all advice I have seen for getting past the blinkers and egos.
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For what it¡¯s worth, Ellen, I was sincerely acknowledging that ultimately it¡¯s your own life to live. I was glad Tamar gave you that advice, I joined in it, trying to give you the benefit of my own medical experience (my physical therapist helped me avoid back surgery 5 years ago), but beyond that, you are the captain of your own ship.
I wasn¡¯t condescending or judging, but I know online it¡¯s hard sometimes to tell the difference. I hope things get better for you.
Arnie
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On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:20?AM, Ellen Moody via groups.io <ellen.moody@...> wrote:
?To Arnie, I can't resist replying I should have guessed you'd end up
condescending and judging. E.M.
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 12:38?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io
<arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
It is indeed your life to live.
Arnie
On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:37?AM, Ellen Moody via groups.io <ellen.moody@...> wrote: ?I do what is in my character to do --
Ellen
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 8:02?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io
<arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
Thank you, Tamar, for giving Ellen that good advice to be proactive (and I would add, to ask her loved ones to be proactive on Ellen's behalf) - our health care system responds to the squeaky wheel, and it neglects those who
don't push for more attention and better care.
I would also suggest getting a referral to a physical therapist to assess your condition, Ellen, and perhaps figure out exercises you could be doing my regularly that would preserve and improve your physical capacities.
Hang in there, Ellen.
ARNIE
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:32?PM Tamar Lindsay via groups.io <dicconf=
[email protected]> wrote:
I am not a doctor nor anything medical.
That said, my opinion is that you need a second opinion. From a different set of doctors, in a different hospital.
Tell them someone else suggested it might be ischemic, and _ask_ what they think. Also ask what their Plan is for the continuing weakness and lack of use of the leg. Be sure to use the word "plan" - I hear that it has significant meaning in a medical context.
This all advice I have seen for getting past the blinkers and egos.
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?For what it¡¯s worth, Ellen, I was sincerely acknowledging that ultimately it¡¯s your own life to live. I was glad Tamar gave you that advice, I joined in it, trying to give you the benefit of my own medical experience (my physical therapist helped me avoid back surgery 5 years ago), but beyond that, you are the captain of your own ship.
I wasn¡¯t condescending or judging, but I know online it¡¯s hard sometimes to tell the difference. I hope things get better for you.
Arnie
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On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:20?AM, Ellen Moody via groups.io <ellen.moody@...> wrote:
?To Arnie, I can't resist replying I should have guessed you'd end up
condescending and judging. E.M.
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 12:38?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io
<arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
It is indeed your life to live.
Arnie
On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:37?AM, Ellen Moody via groups.io <ellen.moody@...> wrote: ?I do what is in my character to do --
Ellen
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 8:02?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io
<arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
Thank you, Tamar, for giving Ellen that good advice to be proactive (and I would add, to ask her loved ones to be proactive on Ellen's behalf) - our health care system responds to the squeaky wheel, and it neglects those who
don't push for more attention and better care.
I would also suggest getting a referral to a physical therapist to assess your condition, Ellen, and perhaps figure out exercises you could be doing my regularly that would preserve and improve your physical capacities.
Hang in there, Ellen.
ARNIE
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:32?PM Tamar Lindsay via groups.io <dicconf=
[email protected]> wrote:
I am not a doctor nor anything medical.
That said, my opinion is that you need a second opinion. From a different set of doctors, in a different hospital.
Tell them someone else suggested it might be ischemic, and _ask_ what they think. Also ask what their Plan is for the continuing weakness and lack of use of the leg. Be sure to use the word "plan" - I hear that it has significant meaning in a medical context.
This all advice I have seen for getting past the blinkers and egos.
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I see Arnie is repeating the same ideas. No wonder statistically Americans do so badly in the area of mortality and health vis-a-vis other so-called ¡°developed countries.¡±
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On Oct 27, 2024, at 1:33?PM, Arnie Perlstein via groups.io <arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
?For what it¡¯s worth, Ellen, I was sincerely acknowledging that ultimately it¡¯s your own life to live. I was glad Tamar gave you that advice, I joined in it, trying to give you the benefit of my own medical experience (my physical therapist helped me avoid back surgery 5 years ago), but beyond that, you are the captain of your own ship.
I wasn¡¯t condescending or judging, but I know online it¡¯s hard sometimes to tell the difference. I hope things get better for you.
Arnie
On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:20?AM, Ellen Moody via groups.io <ellen.moody@...> wrote:
?To Arnie, I can't resist replying I should have guessed you'd end up
condescending and judging. E.M.
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 12:38?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io
<arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
It is indeed your life to live.
Arnie
On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:37?AM, Ellen Moody via groups.io <ellen.moody@...> wrote: ?I do what is in my character to do --
Ellen
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 8:02?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io
<arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
Thank you, Tamar, for giving Ellen that good advice to be proactive (and I would add, to ask her loved ones to be proactive on Ellen's behalf) - our health care system responds to the squeaky wheel, and it neglects those who
don't push for more attention and better care.
I would also suggest getting a referral to a physical therapist to assess your condition, Ellen, and perhaps figure out exercises you could be doing my regularly that would preserve and improve your physical capacities.
Hang in there, Ellen.
ARNIE
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:32?PM Tamar Lindsay via groups.io <dicconf=
[email protected]> wrote:
I am not a doctor nor anything medical.
That said, my opinion is that you need a second opinion. From a different set of doctors, in a different hospital.
Tell them someone else suggested it might be ischemic, and _ask_ what they think. Also ask what their Plan is for the continuing weakness and lack of use of the leg. Be sure to use the word "plan" - I hear that it has significant meaning in a medical context.
This all advice I have seen for getting past the blinkers and egos.
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Ellen Moody
Arnie Perlstein