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[Jane¡¯s] eyes, a deep grey, with dark eye-lashes and eyebrows, had never been denied their praise; but the skin, which she had been used to cavil at, as wanting colour, had a clearness and delicacy
By Arnie Perlstein · #5280 ·
At JASNA virtual first day
The conference (live) was one of the better ones among the 15 I¡¯ve attended since 2005. Arnie
By Arnie Perlstein · #5279 ·
Re: [Trollope&Peers] At JASNA virtual first day
2nd day of 3. Today I found only one of the JASNA talks of interest to me; the speakers were aiming at someone who knows less. Savige's talk about Austen's copy of Isaac D'Istaeli's Curiosities of
By Ellen Moody · #5278 ·
Followup re my suggestion that Elizabeth ask Mr. Bennet to write secretly to Bingley
ME BEFORE: "Nope, I don¡¯t buy that one at all. You seem to accept Darcy¡¯s view of what is proper and what is not . . ." DOROTHY: "Actually, my point was that Bingley accepts Darcy¡¯s view. There
By Arnie Perlstein · #5277 ·
Re: Followup re my suggestion that Elizabeth ask Mr. Bennet to write secretly to Bingley
Though BIngley had money from his father, he and his sisters really didn't know society the way Darcy would . Darcy's family had moved in fairly high circles of society. His father was wealthy and
By Nancy Mayer · #5276 ·
Re: Followup re my suggestion that Elizabeth ask Mr. Bennet to write secretly to Bingley
Arnie: Nope, I don¡¯t buy that one at all. You seem to accept Darcy¡¯s view of what is proper and what is not . . . Actually, my point was that Bingley accepts Darcy¡¯s view. There is a lot made of
By Dorothy Gannon · #5275 ·
I hope I am all set for coming virtual sessions from this year's JASNA
Never sure. I'll find out that morning. Ellen
By Ellen Moody · #5274 ·
Followup re my suggestion that Elizabeth ask Mr. Bennet to write secretly to Bingley
This isn¡¯t a variation, it¡¯s an alternative explanation for Elizabeth¡¯s behavior that is plausible and supported by a variety of passages in the novel text. You¡¯re claiming as the only
By Arnie Perlstein · #5273 ·
Re: Followup re my suggestion that Elizabeth ask Mr. Bennet to write secretly to Bingley
Arnie, there appears to be a strong market for Austen variation novels. I have long suggested that you make your subtext theories into novels and publish them. Write the novel as you think it should
By Nancy Mayer · #5272 ·
Followup re my suggestion that Elizabeth ask Mr. Bennet to write secretly to Bingley
Again, I have NOT suggested that Jane would or should ask her father to intervene on her behalf. It is Elizabeth who has the unique knowledge that such an intervention by Mr. Bennet would have a
By Arnie Perlstein · #5271 ·
Re: Followup re my suggestion that Elizabeth ask Mr. Bennet to write secretly to Bingley
I agree with most that the last thing a respectable young woman would do wud be to ask a parent secretly to write. Parents don't act in secret that way. They are authority figures for real. Ellen
By Ellen Moody · #5270 ·
Followup re my suggestion that Elizabeth ask Mr. Bennet to write secretly to Bingley
*NANCY*: ¡°How mortifying for a daughter, especially one like Jane, to have her father tell Bingley that she was in love with him. The father could ask his intentions and suggest that he owed his
By Arnie Perlstein · #5269 ·
Re: Elizabeth¡¯s Inaction
Arnie, I agree with you Mr Bennet is too indolent a father to bother to write a letter on Jane¡¯s behalf. But a more significant reason he wouldn¡¯t take the step (or rather, that Elizabeth would
By Dorothy Gannon · #5268 ·
Re: Two new family members
Congratulations, Ellen! What terrific news. Dorothy
By Dorothy Gannon · #5267 ·
Re: Two new family members
Many, many years ago, Ellen (in the days of Austen-L), I remember you comparing A Winter¡¯s Tale with Persuasion, and the theme of ¡®a second spring.¡¯ As with many of your reflections, it¡¯s
By Dorothy Gannon · #5266 ·
Re: Elizabeth¡¯s Inaction
How mortifying for a daughter , especially one like Jame , to have her father tell Bingley that she was in love with him. The father could ask his intentions and suggest that he owed his daughter more
By Nancy Mayer · #5265 ·
Elizabeth¡¯s Inaction
I forgot to add my most important point about propriety vs. love. Is there any scene in literature more thrilling than when Elizabeth stands up to Lady Catherine¡¯s brazen attempt to intimidate
By Arnie Perlstein · #5264 ·
Elizabeth¡¯s Inaction
NANCY: "It just wasn't done to tell a man that one's daughter was in love with him." Just wasn't done sounds to me like empty propriety. I'm asking for a discussion of how to balance propriety with
By Arnie Perlstein · #5263 ·
Re: Two new family members
And so now I celebrated with a blog telling how we three (me, Laura, Izzy) gained two new family members (Fiona Elinor) in the last couple of weeks:
By Ellen Moody · #5262 ·
Re: Elizabeth¡¯s Inaction
It just wasn't done to tell a man that one's daughter was in love with him. What one could do, it see the man and tell him that after he had shown Jane such distinction, had raised hopes in the
By Nancy Mayer · #5261 ·