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Re: Austen and death
I have to discover why my messages go off too early.
Though there are no direct deaths in any of the books, in each a death had happened before the story begins or occurs off stage, as it were. In Northanger Abbey, it is Mrs. Tilney's death has hovers over the story. Though I disagree with Arnie that this death was a protest against multiple pregnancies,I do agree that it is a necessary background for Elinor andCatherine. In Sense and Sensibility , the death of Mr. Dashwood sets the novel in motion.The death of the Uncle has an effect in that the man left his money to 4 year old, though the girls' father succeeded to the estate. The novel would have been entirely different if he had lived to accrue a fortune. Off hand , I can't think of a death in P &P unless that of Darcy's father In Mansfield Park it is actually the death of Mr. Norris that affects the plot. In Persuasion, the death of the baronet's infant son, and his wife affect that family. However, the death that draws the most notice is the death of Richard, and the commentary on the "fat sighs." That incident and death has probably been discussed most often. I saved Emma for last because that book is preceded by several deaths. Emma's mother, Harriet's mother, Frank's mother, Jane's parents are dead when the story begins, I liked the opening scenes of the movie that opened with scenes of several funerals. In Austen's life, it was the death of her father that changed her life dramatically. On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:37?AM Nancy Mayer via groups.io <regencyresearcher@...> wrote: Ellen reviews a book by Michael Greany on Academia. Greany covers deaths |
Re: [Trollope&Peers] S&S Summer party continues
Susan, I admit I didn't read it carefully. I also have seen other
stage adaptations of Austen which omit central characters -- or worse yet, add new ones. These musicals are or me by definition not true in any deep sense to Austen. She wrote ironic satire, not romantic comedy and there is no Utopian vision anywhere, which is the core of most musicals. Ellen On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 9:39?AM Susan B via groups.io <smbiddle15@...> wrote:
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S&S Summer party continues
Today Sarah Emsley hosts Paul Gordin, the writer of The recent
successful musical made from Sense and Sensibility; if you read with care you will find she has linked in reviews of her book on Austen Jane Austen's Philosophy of the Virtues and her edition for Broadview Press of Edith Wharton's Custom of the Country: Posted by Ellen |
Not altogether OT
Auste's brother who was put away probably had a learning disorder. I
was horrified to see GOP officials & voters mocking Tim Walz's son because they take him to be or call him (ugly terms for) autistic. How vile of them. Others were mocking Emhoff's daughter. Is it the boy is not macho male and the girl wears glasses (no resemblance to Barbie dolls you see). Well today I came across a good article in the Milwaukee Sentinel explaining Gus Walz is diagnosed with NVLD, he is superb at verbal communication but at a loss with non-verbal communication. A lot of social life depends on non-verbal communication: read this: Here is an article in Psychology Today: Walz's excellent parents, not stigmatizing son, not trying to make him neurotypical, but helping him to cope: Do read these as this form of neurodivergence is not well known. My younger daughter is autistic ... Ellen |
Re: 3 of Jane Austen¡¯s 6 brothers engaged in antislavery activism ? new research offers more clues about her own views
Jane Austen also had contemporary women peer writers who were deeply
anti-slavery. Charlotte Smith was the best known in her day. Ellen On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 10:26?AM Nancy Mayer via groups.io <regencyresearcher@...> wrote:
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Re: 3 of Jane Austen¡¯s 6 brothers engaged in antislavery activism ? new research offers more clues about her own views
Read her letters. There are more than passing references to the Clarkston
brothers and abolition. It was her letters that had me researching Sierre Leone that the Clarkston brothers settled with freed slaves. I once worked with a lady from Sierre Leone who told me that the Clarkston brothers had statues of them and streets named after them there. School children study about the Clarkston brothers in their history classes. References to Antigua and slavery in the novels can be taken in many ways in the 21st century that may have been incomprehensible to those of the 19th. nancy On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 9:54?AM Liz Anne Potamianos via groups.io <lizannepotamianos@...> wrote: A good starting place for clues about Jane Austen's views on slavery and |
Re: 3 of Jane Austen¡¯s 6 brothers engaged in antislavery activism ? new research offers more clues about her own views
A good starting place for clues about Jane Austen's views on slavery and the abolitionist movement can be found in Mansfield Park.?
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The title alone directs the reader immediately to the Lord Mansfield, particularly his judgment in the Somerset v Stewart case and his care for his nephew's illegitimate daughter, Dido Elizabeth Belle, whose mother was an enslaved woman of African descent. The story of Fanny Price is a thinly veiled portrait of the difficulties of the life of an enslaved girl. Liz Anne On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 04:09:25 AM EDT, Ellen Moody <ellen.moody@...> wrote:
Yes. And perhaps Sanditon with use of mulatto heroine. One wishes for more. Ellen On Aug 22, 2024, at 12:46?AM, Tamar Lindsay via groups.io <dicconf@...> wrote: |
Re: 3 of Jane Austen¡¯s 6 brothers engaged in antislavery activism ? new research offers more clues about her own views
Yes. And perhaps Sanditon with use of mulatto heroine.
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One wishes for more. Ellen On Aug 22, 2024, at 12:46?AM, Tamar Lindsay via groups.io <dicconf@...> wrote: |
3 of Jane Austen¡¯s 6 brothers engaged in antislavery activism ? new research offers more clues about her own views
From Devonet Looser abd also about The Hampshire Chronicle
I agree with Susan below, the evidence mostly shows that as part of their professions George Austen and his sons were variously involved at a distance in the slave trade or the British gov't's ant-slavery activities. The evidence showing extra personal in put is about Francis Auste, but also Jane's own admiration for Thomas Clarkson. Of course contempoary readers and writers today are eager to show Austen and what members of the family they can even abolitionists. On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 6:25?PM Susan B via groups.io <smbiddle15@...> wrote:
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Emma returned her friend¡¯s pressure with interest
DOROTHY: ¡°¡.Shakespeare's Richard III
¡° Thanks, Hope! Given JA¡¯s great familiarity with Shakespeare, including *Richard III* (recall the beginning of *Northanger Abbey*), I have just delved into this possible allusion for a while, and now I am certain that Jane Austen actually did have that passage in *Richard III *very much in mind when she wrote that seemingly trivial phrase ¡°with interest¡± about Emma¡¯s nonverbal response to Mrs. Weston: To set it up, in Act 4, Scene 4, of *Richard III*, Richard demonstrates one more time his seemingly infinite chutzpah, when he urges the former Queen Elizabeth, the widow of the former King Edward (whom Richard has murdered), to persuade her daughter to accept Richard¡¯s wooing. Richard uses the metaphor of interest on a loan, suggesting that if the Queen complies with his urgings, her grieving tears shall bear interest by being transformed into pearls (i.e., the rewards Richard has promised): RICHARD III °Ú¡±Õ The King that calles your beauteous Daughter Wife, Familiarly shall call thy *Dor**s**et*, Brother: Againe shall you be Mother to a King: And all the Ruines of distressefull Times, Repayr'd with double Riches of Content. What? we haue many goodly dayes to see: The liquid drops of Teares that you haue shed, Shall come againe, transform'd to Orient Pearle, Aduantaging their Loue, with interest Often-times double gaine of happinesse. Go then (my Mother) to thy Daughter go, Make bold her bashfull yeares, with your experience, Prepare her eares to heare a Woers Tale. Put in her tender heart, th'aspiring Flame Of Golden Soueraignty: Acquaint the Princesse With the sweet silent houres of Marriage ioyes: And when this Arme of mine hath chastised The petty Rebell, dull-brain'd *Buckingham*, Bound with Triumphant Garlands will I come, And leade thy daughter to a Conquerors bed: To whom I will retaile my Conquest wonne, And she shal be sole Victoresse, *C**ae**s**ars C**ae**s**ar* I¡¯ll leave it to you to infer what I am driving at ¨C ¾±³Ù¡¯²õ all about nephews. ;) ARNIE |
Re: Emma returned her friend¡¯s pressure with interest
In this case Google nGrams might be a useful tool for considering how, and how frequently, the word or phrase was used in a broad range of publications in any given year. There are many legal or economic examples where you will find them used as expected but a brief search turned up these two with usage more in line with your note.
Shakespeare's Richard III E. B. Impey, Cumnor, or, The Bugle Horn Hope |
Re: Emma returned her friend¡¯s pressure with interest
The yearly almanacks, an some monthly magazines often had a page listing
the stocks and consoles at 3, 3.5, 4, and 5 %. On certain days during the year the interest would be paid on these. Though it was usually the men who paid attention to such things, a woman as brilliant as Austen with as many interests as she had, would have been very much aware of interest bearing accounts. Then there was her brother's bank inwhich she had an interest from which she received interest until it went bankrupt. However, that said, I agree that returning anything except a sum of money "with interest" does sound a modern saying. Nancy On Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 12:58?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io <arnieperlstein@...> wrote: When Emma worriedly tests Knightley¡¯s possible romantic interest in Jane |
Emma returned her friend¡¯s pressure with interest
When Emma worriedly tests Knightley¡¯s possible romantic interest in Jane
Fairfax in Chapter 33, we read this: [Emma] ¡°¡..The extent of your admiration may take you by surprize some day or other.¡± Mr. Knightley was hard at work upon the lower buttons of his thick leather gaiters, and either the exertion of getting them together, or some other cause, brought the colour into his face, as he answered, ¡°Oh! are you there?¡ªBut you are miserably behindhand. Mr. Cole gave me a hint of it six weeks ago.¡± He stopped.¡ªEmma felt her foot pressed by Mrs. Weston, and did not herself know what to think. In a moment he went on¡ª¡°That will never be, however, I can assure you. Miss Fairfax, I dare say, would not have me if I were to ask her¡ªand I am very sure I shall never ask her.¡± Emma returned her friend¡¯s pressure with interest; and was pleased enough to exclaim, ¡°You are not vain, Mr. Knightley. I will say that for you.¡± I never before looked closely at this sentence: ¡°Emma returned her friend¡¯s pressure with interest¡±. It reminded me of a phrase I¡¯ve often heard from commentators at tennis matches, in which one player returned the other¡¯s fast serve ¡°with interest¡± ¨C i.e., faster, as if the ball, metaphorically, was an interest-bearing obligation. And it makes sense in this context, because Emma feels a surge of relief when Knightley disclaims any such interest in Jane. Naturally, Emma would gleefully press Mrs. Weston¡¯s foot harder than the latter¡¯s original nudge. I¡¯ve reread that line of narration several times, and it doesn¡¯t make sense any other way I can see. In particular, it doesn¡¯t make sense to read ¡°interest¡± as referring to Emma¡¯s being interested to hear more from Mrs. Weston. Of course, as Auden famously wrote, Jane Austen understood the mathematics of money, including how interest-bearing financial instruments operated. We get strong evidence of that in Chapter 19 of P&P when Mr. Collins assures Elizabeth that he understands that she would bring limited income to a marriage. Even though he doesn¡¯t explicitly use the word ¡°interest¡±, ¾±³Ù¡¯²õ clear from his reference to ¡°the 4 per cents¡±: ¡°To fortune I am perfectly indifferent, and shall make no demand of that nature on your father, since I am well aware that it could not be complied with; and that one thousand pounds in the 4 per cents, which will not be yours till after your mother¡¯s decease, is all that you may ever be entitled to.¡± I also checked the OED, and found a couple of metaphorical usages in that metaphorical, financial sense predating Austen, including one by Daniel Defoe, so JA would not have been the originator of that usage. All the same, it struck me today as a startlingly modern turn of phrase, given that it has become mainstream colloquial English in the present day. ARNIE |
"Galigai, St. Swithin, & Diana Parker: the dying Jane Austen¡¯s ambition for immortality & gender justice"
ELLEN: "A very promising title, Arnie. Congratulations -- you must mean
2027. I've only presented once, that Portland one you presented at, 2010" I presented a breakout session with that title in Huntingdon Beach at the 2017 AGM. ELLEN: I read enough of your email to see you used some of what I speculated on Galigai. I remember I was told afterwards I had misunderstood something. I know I didn't come up with your inference about Austen as strongly commercially ambitious -- though she was not unambitious." The reference to Gailgai in her letter is all about a sisterhood of strong-minded women - Galigai, like Joan of Arc, was burned as a witch, punishment for her strong mind (and also her perhaps erotic power over Maria de Medici). Indeed we disagree about there being any other meaning in those final epistolary words of JA. Glad you won't need more neurological intervention!' ARNIE |
"Galigai, St. Swithin, & Diana Parker: the dying Jane Austen¡¯s ambition for immortality & gender justice"
A very promising title, Arnie. Congratulations -- you must mean 2027.
I've only presented once, that Portland one you presented at, 2010 I read enough of your email to see you used some of what I speculated on Galigai. I remember I was told afterwards I had misunderstood something. I know I didn't come up with your inference about Austen as strongly commercially ambitious -- though she was not unambitious. Just to say I disagree with what you did with or think about the significance of this French material in Austen's life. Simply she never knew or personally cultivated these people -- as we see when she declines to go to a party Madame de Stael is at. But they knew and admired her work. Especially de Montolieu who in effect rewrote S&S in French (still in print as a translation) and a free translation of Persuasion. She also read & admired MP: she said so. The French sources are very important. Recently I was asked to write an entry for an encyclopedia article on Isabelle de Montolieu (this past March while I was in Rehab), based on all the work I did on her in my online edition of Caroline de Lichtfield. Unfortunately it was 20 years ago and would take heroic efforts to bring back to my mind, were I well enough. I'm not. I had to decline but said they were welcome to use all I wrote and all sources I found. Even at the time I was very unsure of what I concluded beyond what close reading can tell you. I knew no one and have never been able to network or travel in a monetized way or career-related way. I am less able than ever now. But congratulations -- you'll probably bring in new information. I hope you read French, for a lot of this stuff (especially written in Switzerland) is not translated into English Ellen |
Re: Everything You'd Want to Know about Anne Sharpe vis a vis Jane Austen (in 4 blog posts of mine from 2014-2017)
Very persuasive argument, Arnie.I am convinced about both Galigai and "Queen Sarah" as the personification of the power that strong spirits may have upon weak minds, including their lesbian relationships with Maria de Medicis and Queen Anne respectively.
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Very interesting observation that Mary Bennet's comments to Elizabeth Bennet are an inversion of Mrs Bennet's sentiments: Mary: "'The men SHAN'T come and part us, I am DETERMINED. We want none of them;?do we?'" Mrs Bennet: "'But, however, that SHAN'T prevent my asking him to dine here, I AM?DETERMINED.'" Arnie, do you have any thoughts on the identity of "Lady P.?": ¡°¡But how you are worried! Wherever Distress falls, you are expected to supply Comfort. Lady P. writing to you even from Paris for advice! It is the Influence of Strength over Weakness indeed. Galigai de Concini for ever?& ever.-Adeiu.¡± Liz Anne On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 10:32:59 PM GMT+1, Arnie Perlstein <arnieperlstein@...> wrote:
MONDAY, JANUARY 2, 2017Galigai, St. Swithin, & Diana Parker: the dying Jane Austen¡¯s ambition for immortality & gender justice <> I am VERY pleased and honored to announce that the 2017 JASNA AGM Steering Committee has notified me that I am one of the lucky ones who will get to deliver a breakout session talk in Huntington Beach, CA at the AGM that will run from Oct. 6-8, 2017!!!! ...... This will be my third AGM presentation (2010 in Portland, OR and 2014 in Montreal), and I will be counting the days (277 to be exact) till it starts! And finally, for those who might be interested in coming to hear my talk, here's the beginning of my blurb describing what I'll have the luxury of 40 minutes to articulate in detail: "Galigai, St. Swithin, & Diana Parker: the dying Jane Austen¡¯s ambition for immortality & gender justice" Nearly all Austen biographers, following her brother Henry (¡°in spite of such applause, so much did she shrink from notoriety, that no accumulation of fame would have induced her, had she lived, to affix her name to any productions of her pen¡°) and her nephew James Edward (¡°little thinking of future fame, but caring only for 'the queerness and the fun¡¯ ¡°), would have us believe Jane didn¡¯t reach (or even wish) for literary immortality; that she¡¯d be shocked to learn of her still widening fame 200 years after her early death while at the peak of her powers. I¡¯ve come to know a different Jane, a proud, ambitious artist; and, ironically, I find the best evidence of her proud (but well-regulated) ambition, not in her six novels, but, when physical death loomed large, in her 1817 writings, in which she thrice asserted her power and her will to survive¡at least, on paper!: (1) in her late letter to old friend Anne Sharp (¡°Galigai for ever and ever, the influence of strength over weakness indeed¡±); (2) in her last fiction, the Sanditon fragment (¡°The world is pretty much divided between the weak of mind and the strong; between those who can act and those who cannot; and it is the bounden duty of the capable to let no opportunity of being useful escape them. My¡complaints¡are happily not often of a nature to threaten existence immediately. And as long as we can exert ourselves to be of use to others,...the body is the better for the refreshment the mind receives in doing its duty"); AND (3) in her deathbed testament, the ¡°fanciful¡± ¡°When Winchester Races¡± (¡°When once we are buried you think we are gone But behold me immortal!...Set off for your course, I'll pursue with my rain.¡ Henceforward I'll triumph in shewing my powers¡¡±). I¡¯ll start there, browse the novels & letters, then circle back to her juvenilia; and show that, for her entire writing life, Jane not only wished for immortality, she grabbed for it with both (far from mouldering) hands! SUNDAY, JUNE 15, 2014 Queen Galigai, Queen Sarah, & Queen Jane: the lesbian subtext of Letter 159 <> Ellen Moody wrote the following re Jane Austen's Letter 159 to Anne Sharp, written not long before Jane's premature death at 41: "Galigai de Concini forever.' I used to think this a reference to a witty French philosophe's letters (very popular) suggesting a world of Enlightenment Jane and Anne shared together as girls but Chapman says it's a reference to a devastating story of a woman burned to death who asked what she had used on her mistress to "charm" her-(the mistress was getting back at this poor woman), answered the power of strong souls over weak. I wish I knew the Voltairian context: he would be telling the story with sardonic irony perhaps.. Anyway that must have been their motto: the source is as revealing as the surface content. Strength influences weakness and yet you are at high risk of destruction. Perhaps Austen believed this: the strong personality, the person with inner strength to whom in her novels (her heroines are this kind of person) she gave a romance happiness at the close of her books as that is what her readers wanted.¡± END QUOTE Ellen, your wish is my command¡ªhere first is Voltaire, in French and in translation (which I know you don¡¯t need, but others might): *¡°Le conseiller Courtin lui demanda de quel charme elle s¡¯¨¦tait servie pour ensorceler la reine: Galiga?, indign¨¦e contre le conseiller, et un peu m¨¦contente de Marie de M¨¦dicis, r¨¦pondit: ¡°Mon sortil¨¨ge a ¨¦t¨¦ le pouvoir que les ?mes fortes doivent avoir sur les esprits faibles.¡± Cette r¨¦ponse ne la sauva pas; quelques juges eurent assez de lumi¨¨res et d¡¯¨¦quit¨¦ pour ne pas opiner ¨¤ la mort; mais le reste, entra?n¨¦ par le pr¨¦jug¨¦ public, par l¡¯ignorance, et plus encore par ceux qui voulaient recueillir les d¨¦pouilles de ces infortun¨¦s, condamn¨¨rent ¨¤ la fois le mari d¨¦j¨¤ mort et la femme, comme convaincus de sortil¨¨ge, de juda?sme et de malversations. La mar¨¦chale fut ex¨¦cut¨¦e (1617), et son corps br?l¨¦.¡±* Counselor Courtin asked her what magic she had used to cast a spell upon the queen: Galigai, outraged against the counselor and a bit miffed with Maria de Medici, answered: ¡°My magic spell was the power that strong spirits may have upon the weak.¡± This response did not save her, several judges were intelligent and just enough not to support the penalty of death, but the rest, influenced by public prejudice, by ignorance and still more by those who sought to reap the plunder of those unfortunates, sentenced both the already deceased husband and his wife to death¡ªfor sorcery, Judaism and miscreancy. The mar¨¦chale was executed (1617) and her body burned.¡±? Voltaire, *Essai sur les m?urs et l¡¯esprit des nations et sur les principaux faits de l¡¯histoire, depuis Charlemagne jusqu¡¯¨¤ Louis XIII*, ch clxxiv, 7¨¨me lettre (1756) It is obvious from the above that Voltaire sympathized with Galigai, and that he didn¡¯t buy the prosecutor¡¯s theory of massively corrupt, even evil Rasputin-like influence that harmed many French people. From my further consideration of, and digging beneath, JA¡¯s cryptic meaning in alluding to ¡°Galigai for ever and ever¡± in Letter 159, beyond my comments in my previous post, I not only continue to adhere to the belief that this was a mantra expressing? JA¡¯s longstanding secret bond with Anne Sharp, as two single gentlewomen treated as less than equal to the gentlemen around them, but also as having a sexual aspect as well¡ªi.e., it was an expression of a very romantic friendship between JA and Anne, expressed at the very moment in JA¡¯s life when she was in effect already in her deathbed, and therefore likely to be the most truthful, uncensored expression of JA¡¯s deepest feelings. In short, JA was pouring her heart out? to a woman she loved very deeply, more than as a purely platonic friend. And in that same vein, I believe, after reading up a good deal today about the relationship between Maria de Medicis and Eleonora Galigai de Concini, that at least a part of the widespread hatred & demonization of Galigai¡ªthe horrible cry of ¡°Burn the witch!¡± repeated in countless varied ways a thousand times, over millennia, all over the world, against women who in any way transgressed, or seemed to transgress, against the cruelly unfair restrictions imposed on their gender--was due to the perception that Galigai was not merely manipulating Maria, who was after all mother of the King of France, for gain and power, but the added extra inciting factor that her manipulation was believed to be at least partly based on a lesbian relationship between them. And that would be strikingly similar to another royal scenario that played out in England less than a century after Galigai was put to death, and, in that regard, I leave it to an 1844 commentator to give you part one of the explanation of that connection¡. *Notice of Windsor in Olden Times *by John Stoughton, at p. 222: ¡°No reader of English history can fail to associate with the reign of Anne the name of Sarah, Duchess of Marlborough, whose history is also linked to the locality of Windsor by several interesting incidents. There, in her palmy days, she gave examples of the marvellous influence which she had acquired over her royal mistress, an influence which it has been well remarked, was the same as the sorcery which Leonora Galligai avowed to her judges over Mary de Medicis¡ª "the power of a strong upon a weak mind." She was appointed by the queen ranger of Windsor Park, an appointment which she greatly valued, and had a residence there appropriated for her use, to which she was much attached. The lodge of the park, she remarks, was a very agreeable residence; and "Anne had remembered, in the days of their friendship, that the duchess, in riding by it, had often wished for such a place." The castle was the scene of many a visit from "Queen Sarah," as she was popularly called, till her influence was undermined by the intrigues of the famous Mrs. Masham, that singular personage in English history.¡± ¡and the Booklist synopsis for the recent biography of ¡°Queen Sarah¡± by Ophelia Field to give you part two: ¡°Though the life of Sarah Churchill (1660-1744), first duchess of Marlborough and original matriarch of a still-thriving dynasty, has been well chronicled through the centuries, Field still manages to provide new insight. Sarah's intimate relationship with Queen Anne serves as the natural centerpiece of this biography. One of the queen's most favored companions for a great number of years, Sarah eventually blackmailed Anne, whom she believed to have unceremoniously dumped her for another female friend. Intriguingly, Sarah threatened to expose Anne as a lesbian, an accusation that would have implicated Sarah in her own attempted slander of the queen. Such a gutsy power play was par for the course for a savvy operator who used any backdoor source available to her as a woman to wield social, political, and economic power in a man's world. Married to one of England's greatest generals, she exploited whatever and whomever possible in order to advance the Whig party or to increase her already immense ´Ú´Ç°ù³Ù³Ü²Ô±ð.¡± I think JA was well aware of both of these very famous royal power plays, including their sexual aspects, and included them not only in that brief code in Letter 159, but also in various of her novels¡ªbut that last point is a topic for another day. Letter 159 to Anne Sharp, Part Two: the Dying JA¡¯s Alter Egos: Galigai de Concini & St. Swithin! <> ¡°¡But how you are worried! Wherever Distress falls, you are expected to supply Comfort. Lady P. writing to you even from Paris for advice! It is the Influence of Strength over Weakness indeed. Galigai de Concini for ever & ever.-Adeiu.¡± Le Faye¡¯s footnote re Galigai de Concini reads as follows: ¡°RWC gives the explanation: Eleonore Galigai, a maid of honour to Maria de Medicis, married Concino Concini, and was burned as a sorceress in 1617. When one of her judges asked her what charm she had put on her mistress, she replied: ¡®Mon sortilege a ete le pouvoir que les ames fortes doivent avoir sur les esprits faibles.¡¯ [¡°My sorcery was the power that strong souls must have over weak spirits.¡±] Voltaire, Essai? sur les Moeurs, Ch. 175. JA may have owed her knowledge to Lord Chesterfield (see his letter of 30 April 1752; or to Edgeworth¡¯s The Absentee, Ch. 3¡±? END QUOTE FROM LE FAYE/CHAPMAN From my research today, I believe JA and Anne Sharpe knew all about Galligai de Concini from several different sources, and not just the Chesterfield and Edgeworth. Let¡¯s look at each of them now: First, here is the passage in Lord Chesterfield¡¯s Letter that Chapman cited, in which the worldly wise Lord eloquently touts the value of practical life experience over purely intellectual knowledge, when it comes to human nature. When I read this passage, I think of Jane Austen herself as a writer, and I think of strong-minded characters like the Luciferian Charlotte LUC-as and LUC-y FERrars!: ¡°The man 'qui a du monde' knows all this from his own experience and observation: the conceited, cloistered philosopher knows nothing of it from his own theory; his practice is absurd and improper, and he acts as awkwardly as a man would dance, who had never seen others dance, nor learned of a dancing-master; but who had only studied the notes by which dances are now pricked down as well as tunes. Observe and imitate, then, the address, the arts, and the manners of those 'qui ont du monde': see by what methods they first make, and afterward improve impressions in their favor. Those impressions are much oftener owing to little causes than to intrinsic merit; which is less volatile, and hath not so sudden an effect *. *Strong minds have undoubtedly an ascendant over weak ones, as GALIGAI Marachale d'Ancre very justly observed, when, to the disgrace and reproach of those times, she was executed for having governed Mary of Medicis by the arts of witchcraft and magic. But then ascendant is to be gained by degrees, and by those arts only which experience and the knowledge of the world teaches; for few are mean enough to be bullied, though most are weak enough to be bubbled. I have often seen people of superior, governed by people of much inferior parts, without knowing or even suspecting that they were so governed.¡± Next, we have the passage from Edgeworth¡¯s *The Absentee*,which is a lighter, comic version of the archetype, in which the quick-witted Mrs. Dareville repeatedly ¡°dares¡± to tweak the vanity of the slow-witted society snob Lady Clonbrony. Here¡¯s the end of that scene, where Galigai is referred to: ¡°Having with great difficulty got the malicious wit out of the pagoda and into the Turkish tent, Lady Clonbrony began to breathe more freely; for here she thought she was upon safe ground: 'Everything, I flatter myself' said she, 'is correct and appropriate, and quite picturesque.' The company, dispersed in happy groups, or reposing on seraglio ottomans, drinking lemonade and sherbet beautiful Fatimas admiring, or being admired¡ª'Everything here quite correct, appropriate, and picturesque,' repeated Mrs. Dareville. This lady's powers as a mimic were extraordinary, and she found them irresistible. Hitherto she had imitated Lady Clonbrony's air and accent only behind her back; but, bolder grown, she now ventured, in spite of Lady Langdale's warning pinches, to mimic her kind hostess before her face, and to her face. [More examples of Mrs. Dareville¡¯s mockery of Lady Clonbrony, then¡] 'Salisbury!¡ªexplain this to me,' said a lady, drawing Mr. Salisbury aside. 'If you are in the secret, do explain this to me; for unless I had seen it, I could not have believed it. Nay, though I have seen it, I do not believe it. How was that daring spirit laid? By what spell?' 'By the spell which superior minds always cast on inferior spirits.' 'Very fine,' said the lady, laughing, 'but as old as the days of Leonora de GALIGAI, quoted a million times. Now tell me something new and to the purpose, and better suited to modern days.' 'Well, then, since you will not allow me to talk of superior minds in the present days, let me ask you if you have never observed that a wit, once conquered in company by a wit of a higher order, is thenceforward in complete subjection to the conqueror, whenever and wherever they meet.' 'You would not persuade me that yonder gentle-looking could ever be a match for the veteran Mrs. Dareville? She may have the wit, but has she the courage?' 'Yes; no one has more courage, more civil courage, where her own dignity, or the interests of her friends are concerned. I will tell you an instance or two to-morrow.¡± Even though I believe JA did indeed read both Lord Chesterfield¡¯s letters AND *The Absentee, *I believe JA was also very familiar with Mary Hays¡¯s 1807 biographical sketch of Galigai, which itself was a condensation of a much longer bio published by Bayle a half? century earlier: LEONORA GALLIGAI, a Florentine, the daughter of a joiner, and the nurse of Mary de Medicis, by whom she was greatly beloved, accompanied Mary into France on her marriage with Henry IV in 1606. Leonora, plain in her person, but possessed of wit and talents, wholly governed the queen her mistress, whom she attended as woman of the bed-chamber. She gave her hand to Concino Conceni, afterwards marshal d'Ancre, who was also a native of Florence, and who came into France with the queen. Conceni, through the influence of his wife, rapidly obtained wealth and employments. The domestic jars which embittered the life of Henry IV are attributed to the machinations of this Florentine pair, who found their account in abusing the confidence of their mistress. After the death of Henry, the Concernis, by their ascendency over the queen, obtained yet greater powers; and, by their rapacity and insolence, offended the nobles, and disgusted the nation. The marquisate of Ancre in Picardy was purchased by Conceni; who was also made governor of Amiens, Peronne, Roie, and Montdidier. He was afterwards created a marshal of France, and first gentleman of the bedchamber to the young king. Two hundred gentlemen attended him when he appeared in public, beside the servants to whom he allowed wages, and whom he was accustomed to call his ' thousandlivre poltroons.' He removed at pleasure the counsellors of the king, whom he replaced with his own creatures; disposed of the finances, distributed the offices of state, and by terror crushed all who opposed him. Leonora, thus arrived at the pinnacle of fortune, affected the most ridiculous fastidiousness. The princes, princesses, and first personages of the kingdom, were prohibited from coming to her apartments, while it was accounted a crime to look at her. The people terrified her, she declared, and made her dread lest they should bewitch her by gazing in her face. Wearied at length by the complaints of his courtiers, and the exactions and caprices of the Italian favourites, Lewis XIII determined to rid himself of their usurpations; for which purpose he gave a commission to Vitri, a captain of the guards, who received orders to dispatch Conceni, by pistols, on the drawbridge of the Louvre. This sentence was accordingly executed April 24, 1617. The body of the unfortunate favourite suffered, after his death, the vilest indignities [gory details, followed by¡] Leonora heard of the fate of her husband with little concern, except for her own interest. Without shedding a tear, or expressing a regret, she appeared solicitous only for the preservation of her jewels. Having enclosed them in her bed, she caused herself to be undressed and placed in it; but the officers of the provost, sent to search her chamber, compelled her to arise, and discovered the treasure. 'You have killed my husband,' said she, 'does not that satisfy you? Let me be permitted to leave the kingdom.' When informed of the indignities practised on the body of Conceni, she appeared somewhat moved, yet she shed no tears. After a pause, she declared that her husband had been a presumptuous insolent man, who had deserved his fate. It was three years, she added, since they had separate apartments; that Conceni was a bad man, and that, to rid herself of him, she had determined, to retire into Italy, and had prepared every thing for her journey. This assertion she offered to prove. She behaved with great confidence, as if she had nothing to apprehend, and even expressed a hope of being taken again into favour. She was first carried to the Bastile, and afterwards committed to the *Conciergerie, *or prison of the parliament, by which she was tried. Having been condemned to lose her head, and have her body consumed to ashes, she pleaded pregnancy; a plea which was over-ruled by her own confession, that she had lived apart from her husband for three years. Convicted of high treason against God and the king, she suffered her sentence with firmness and courage, July 8th, 161*7.* She was accused, with her husband, of having judaized, and practised magic arts; which, with judicial astrology, were, in those times, seriously professed. On being questioned by counsellor Courtin, respecting the kind of sorcery which, she had employed to gain an ascendency over Mary de Medicis, she sensibly replied, 'That she had used no other magic, than that power which strong minds possess over those that are weak.' With that background, I now express my agreement with Claire Tomalin¡¯s 1999 assessment of this allusion in Letter 159, which is that JA saw herself as a strong minded woman condemned by society as a ¡°sorceress¡±:? ¡°Suddenly, surprisingly, she invokes the 17th century French ¡®sorceress¡¯ Eleonore Galigai de Concini, who, according to Voltaire, told her judges before she was burned that her magic was simply the force that strong spirits exert over weak ones¡Was it Eliza who read Voltaire and told her about Eleonore? Whoever it was, ¡°Galigai de Concini for ever & ever¡¯ wrote Jane, her own spirit strong enough for a sorceress.¡± And in a 2013 book chapter entitled ¡°Getting to Know Miss Jane Austen: Images of an Author¡±, Rana Tekcan, a Turkish scholar, strongly endorsed Tomalin¡¯s reading:? ¡°Tomalin¡connects the strong spirit of the sorceress not with Anne Sharpe but with JA herself about to face death. Tomalin entitles the chapter ¡°The Sorceress¡¯ and surrounds the quotation with details of her illness and her last attempt at ³¦´Ç³¾±è´Ç²õ¾±³Ù¾±´Ç²Ô.¡± But the still bigger picture I see, is that JA writes this to Anne Sharp as a code already so familiar between the two of them from past interactions, that it needs no explanation, beyond stating the mantra. I believe JA is indeed speaking about herself and Anne, as two persecuted co-conspirators in the heresy that two women without formal education could be wiser and (by deception) more powerful even than those invested with real power in their world, mostly men. And¡there is also in Galigai the idea of a smart woman who gains power not through her physical attractiveness, but through her sharp mind. We are reminded of Lady Susan, Lucy Ferrars, Mary Bennet, Charlotte Lucas, Mrs. Smith and (yes) Harriet Smith¡ªwho use their wits to gain what they seek. And also such women are viewed as dangerous by the patriarchy, and so are demonized as witches and often violently disposed of¡ªthat persecution is as much part of why JA mentions Galigai to Anne Sharp as the powerfully sharp female mind. And that¡¯s when I connected the dots I show in my Subject Line¡ªof course JA wrote Letter 159 only 6 weeks or so before she wrote her final poem, Winchester Races, which I have written about many times as JA¡¯s swan song of defiant, indomitable spirit. She will not be silenced, she may even have been quietly put? to death (Ashford¡¯s novel is not a ridiculous flight of fancy, it is grounded in Letter 159, Winchester Races, and the references to poison in Sanditon and Emma). But JA¡¯s strong spirit, and her writings, will survive! No wonder Anne Sharp kept this one letter so sacred, and passed it on (as Le Faye describes its provenance) so that it would eventually (in 1926) emerge into the light of day for the world to see. TUESDAY, JUNE 17, 2014 "Galigai de Concini for ever and ever" & "The men shan't come and part us, I am determined. We want none of them; do we?" <> In Janeites, Rita Lamb responded to my suggestion that Galigai de Concini may have been persecuted in part because of a public perception of a lesbian relationship between Galigai and Maria de Medicis:? "Arnie, I did as I was bid but found only modern speculation on a forum :(? Is there a reference to a contemporary source that links Galigai and rumours of lesbianism?? I get the impression that, after her execution, any possible smear was thrown at her; but I don't know that this included 'sexual deviancy' as well as witchcraft." I replied as follows: Well, the quote I provided the other day from an 1844 commentator DID explicitly draw a parallel between Galigai and Sarah Churchill, and went further and called that linkage "well remarked", meaning that a number of other commentators of that era must also have noted the striking parallelism of situation, so I'll repeat those 1844 remarks now: *Notice of Windsor in Olden Times* by John Stoughton, at p. 222: ¡°No reader of English history can fail to associate with the reign of Anne the name of Sarah, Duchess of Marlborough, whose history is also linked to the locality of Windsor by several interesting incidents. There, in her palmy days, she gave examples of the marvellous influence which she had acquired over her royal mistress, an influence which it has been well remarked, was the same as the sorcery which Leonora Galligai avowed to her judges over Mary de Medicis¡ª "the power of a strong upon a weak mind." She was appointed by the queen ranger of Windsor Park, an appointment which she greatly valued, and had a residence there appropriated for her use, to which she was much attached. The lodge of the park, she remarks, was a very agreeable residence; and "Anne had remembered, in the days of their friendship, that the duchess, in riding by it, had often wished for such a place." The castle was the scene of many a visit from "Queen Sarah," as she was popularly called, till her influence was undermined by the intrigues of the famous Mrs. Masham, that singular personage in English history.¡± While I freely acknowledge that John Stoughton did NOT allude to lesbianism in either historical situation, I believe JA made that association as well, and, given all the lesbian subtext I and other Austen scholars have found in her novels, I think JA and Anne shared an admiration for the defiant Don Juan-like middle finger that Leonore de Concini gave to her persecutors, even when she knew she was doomed. I think JA and Anne must have spoken often of that powerful female role model, courageous in the face of imminent horrible death. And....as I reflect further on it, there is the same feeling in JA writing "Galigai de Concini for ever and ever" in Letter 159, that I first noticed 4 years ago in the words spoken to Elizabeth Bennet by the mysterious female whisperer when Elizabeth is so busy watching Darcy's every move at Longbourn the first time he shows up there late in the novel: ""The men shan't come and part us, I am determined. We want none of them; do we?" That rarely noticed passage may, upon examination, seem only like a rallying cry to female friendship, but I hear in it, as well, a rejection of men that is also physical and not just social. And, by the way, 4 years ago, I concluded that the mysterious whisperer was Mary Bennet, and now I am even more sure of it, because I just noticed just how strikingly parallel the whisperer's words are to the following sentence spoken only a few pages earlier in P&P, by Mrs. Bennet: "The subject which had been so warmly canvassed between their parents, about a twelvemonth ago, was now brought forward again. "As soon as ever Mr. Bingley comes, my dear," said Mrs. Bennet, "you will wait on him of course." "No, no. You forced me into visiting him last year, and promised, if I went to see him, he should marry one of my daughters. But it ended in nothing, and I will not be sent on a fool's errand again." His wife represented to him how absolutely necessary such an attention would be from all the neighbouring gentlemen, on his returning to Netherfield. "'Tis an etiquette I despise," said he. "If he wants our society, let him seek it. He knows where we live. I will not spend my hours in running after my neighbours every time they go away and come back again." "Well, all I know is, that it will be abominably rude if you do not wait on him. But, however, that SHAN'T prevent my asking him to dine here, I AM DETERMINED. We must have Mrs. Long and the Gouldings soon. That will make thirteen with ourselves, so there will be just room at table for him." Please note the striking parallelism--both are spoken by a female, both use the archaic word "shan't", both say "I am determined"...and both are about the entry of a man into a female enclave--but whereas Mrs. Bennet is determined to ask Bingley to dine at Longbourn, I say Mary Bennet, who has heard her mother and does NOT agree but does not wish to risk speaking her disagreement openly, chooses instead the clever deception of? mimicking her mother's vulgar speech pattern to disguise her own identity, and to turn her mother's words 180 degrees upside down, to make them the voice of female solidarity and the rejection of male intrusion into a female enclave, seeking to reverse her mother's invitation for invasion. And that was the world that JA and Anne Sharpe shared, I believe, one of female solidarity PLUS something that could only be "whispered" in code between them. THURSDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2014 Galigai de Concini, Harriot Freke, and Elinor Joddrel: A Chain of Covert Lesbian Allusion Culminating in JA¡¯s Mary Crawford (& in JA¡¯s Letter 159 to Anne Sharp) <> Four months ago, I wrote a series of blog posts about Jane Austen¡¯s cryptic reference in Letter 159 (written to Anne Sharp in the last year of JA¡¯s life) to the ill-fated Galigai de Concini, the particular friend of Maria de Medicis: ¡°But how you are worried! Wherever Distress falls, you are expected to supply Comfort. Lady P. writing to you even from Paris for advice! It is the Influence of Strength over Weakness indeed. Galigai de Concini for ever & ever.-Adeiu.¡± That series of posts culminated in one¡. ¡in which I made a *prima facie *case for Jane Austen having intended, by that reference, to communicate a strong but coded *lesbian* subtext, which she meant to be decoded and understood only by its addressee, Anne Sharp. I have long believed Anne Sharp to be one of the two women (along with Martha Lloyd) with whom JA had some sort of intense (but, in Anne¡¯s case, obviously almost entirely long-distance) lesbian relationship. Today, while researching an entirely different, but still very cool, veiled allusion to Edgeworth¡¯s *Belinda* which I just spotted in one of JA¡¯s novels, I also chanced upon evidence that strengthens my above claim for lesbian subtext in JA¡¯s Letter 159¡ªthat evidence is the following passage in Chapter 17 of *Belinda*, entitled ¡°Rights of Woman¡±: "And will you make me lose my bet?" cried Mrs. Freke "Oh, at all events, you must come to the ball!¡ªI'm down for it. But I'll not press it now, because you're frightened out of your poor little wits, I see, at the bare thoughts of doing any thing considered out of rule by these good people. Well, well! it shall be managed for you¡ªleave that to me: I'm used to managing for cowards. Pray tell me¡ªyou and Lady Delacour are off, I understand?¡ªGive ye joy!¡ªShe and I were once great friends; that is to say, I HAD OVER HER ¡®THAT POWER WHICH STRONG MINDS HAVE OVER WEAK ONES,¡±' but she was too weak for me¡ªone of those people that have neither courage to be good, nor to be bad." "The courage to be bad," said Belinda, "I believe, indeed, she does not possess." Mrs. Freke stared. "Why, I heard you had quarrelled with her!" "If I had," said Belinda, "I hope that I should still do justice to her merits. It is said that people are apt to suffer more by their friends than their enemies. I hope that will never be the case with Lady Delacour, as I confess that I have been one of her friends." "'Gad, I like your spirit¡ªyou don't want courage, I see, to fight even for your enemies. You are just the kind of girl I admire. I see you have been prejudiced against me by Lady Delacour; but whatever stories she may have trumped up, the truth of the matter is this, there's no living with her, she's so jealous¡ªso ridiculously jealous¡ªof that lord of hers, for whom all the time she has the impudence to pretend not to care more than I do for the sole of my boot," said Mrs. Freke, striking it, with her whip; "but she hasn't the courage to give him tit for tat: now this is what I call weakness¡¡±? END QUOTE Of course, Mrs. Freke (pronounced, not coincidentally, like Henry Crawford¡¯s famous ¡°freaks¡±) is Harriot Freke, who is, many of you know, one of the two characters mentioned first when the topic of closeted lesbians in the literature of Jane Austen¡¯s era is raised---Elinor Joddrel from Fanny Burney¡¯s *The Wanderer *being the other. And so of course a woman like Harriot Freke [who is, famously and obviously---from the title of Chapter 17, for starters---a parody of Mary Wollstonecraft---who had died an awful death only 3 years before *Belinda *was published] would have known about, and then plausibly invoked in an ironic, but favorable light, Galigai de Concini, who, as my above linked blog post indicated, was rumored to have had a lesbian influence over her powerful patroness, Maria de Medicis, hence the smear about being a ¡°witch¡±. And, stepping back for a wider literary perspective, as my Subject Line hints, now I also see Jane Austen (via the character of Mary Crawford, whose lesbian interest in Fanny Price was depicted in Rozema¡¯s *Mansfield Park*, and has subsequently been unpacked in scholarly fashion by myself and also by my friend Aintzane Legaretta) and Fanny Burney (via the character of Elinor Joddrel in *The Wanderer*, published 2 months before *Mansfield Park*) BOTH responding, in different, complicated ways, to Edgeworth. In particular, Mary can be seen as a subtle, wittily understated version of Edgeworth¡¯s wittily over the top original, Harriot. And finally, as I also stated as I began this post, this also makes it that much more likely that I was right on the money in seeing a lesbian subtext in JA¡¯s allusion to Galigai de Concini in Letter 159 to Anne Sharp. It really is a great chain of covert literary allusion, and it really gives serious pause to wonder about some covert coordination between Jane Austen and Fanny Burney in 1813 when both were composing their respective novels¡ª*The Wanderer *was discussed by several speakers at the latest JASNA AGM, and I recall enjoying hearing Elaine Bander speak brilliantly about parallels way back at the 2005 (and see the *Persuasions *article on that topic that Elaine wrote back then). Jane Austen¡¯s infinitely subtle allusions for ever & ever! On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 2:06?PM Ellen Moody via groups.io <ellen.moody= [email protected]> wrote: Ah.? Well you have to have read the book.? My question is about the art of ? Oops.? I meant also " how innocent or ignorant of the seriousness of body |
Re: Miss Sharpe
I didn't mean to suggest Ashford has her as spiteful. Neither Emma
nor Catherine Morland are spiteful. They are all sexually sheltered omen who don't understand their fantasie were they real would mean Henry (in Miss Shar's case) and Jane Fairfax (Emm's) are immoral bad people. Catherine's imaginings do have the general's tyranny as their basis. I liked Miss Sharpe in Ashford's boo; that's why I could read it. She grieves over Jane's death and respects Cassandra Ellen On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 5:13?PM Nancy Mayer via groups.io <regencyresearcher@...> wrote:
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