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Update re upcoming trip

 

Hello everyone. Just an update. I received a cancellation notice from Recreation.gov for my campsite reservation at Onion Valley. Apparently there is flooding. My JMT permit has not been canceled yet. My reservation was for Aug 2 with the plan to enter the JMT on Aug 3.? What I don’t know is whether the trailhead or the road to OV is also closed. Obviously this throws the logistics of the trip into question but we will work it out. I have an inquiry to Recreation.gov about access to the trailhead. I also was able to pick up a permit reversing our trek out of Horseshoe Meadow and ending at Onion Valley. I will drop the unused permit as soon as I know what direction I am going.
 

Keen to hear the outcome of this.? I have Onion Valley camp booked and Kearsage Pass permit around those dates as well.? Have not received communication?from as yet.


On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 12:59?AM Andrew Paisley <andrew.paisley866@...> wrote:
Hello everyone. Just an update. I received a cancellation notice from Recreation.gov for my campsite reservation at Onion Valley. Apparently there is flooding. My JMT permit has not been canceled yet. My reservation was for Aug 2 with the plan to enter the JMT on Aug 3.? What I don’t know is whether the trailhead or the road to OV is also closed. Obviously this throws the logistics of the trip into question but we will work it out. I have an inquiry to Recreation.gov about access to the trailhead. I also was able to pick up a permit reversing our trek out of Horseshoe Meadow and ending at Onion Valley. I will drop the unused permit as soon as I know what direction I am going.

 

I talked with a Ranger today out of the Mt Whitney office and he said the trailhead and parking are open but the campground was damaged by an avalanche and hence the cancellation.?

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 7:14 PM Natassia Pomroy <natassiapomroy@...> wrote:
Keen to hear the outcome of this.? I have Onion Valley camp booked and Kearsage Pass permit around those dates as well.? Have not received communication?from as yet.

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 12:59?AM Andrew Paisley <andrew.paisley866@...> wrote:
Hello everyone. Just an update. I received a cancellation notice from Recreation.gov for my campsite reservation at Onion Valley. Apparently there is flooding. My JMT permit has not been canceled yet. My reservation was for Aug 2 with the plan to enter the JMT on Aug 3.? What I don’t know is whether the trailhead or the road to OV is also closed. Obviously this throws the logistics of the trip into question but we will work it out. I have an inquiry to Recreation.gov about access to the trailhead. I also was able to pick up a permit reversing our trek out of Horseshoe Meadow and ending at Onion Valley. I will drop the unused permit as soon as I know what direction I am going.

 

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There’s plenty of BLM land to camp on around Lone Pine - just gonna be hotter than hades and you won’t get any acclimatization to the elevation. ?If it were me, I would get a cheap hotel in Lone Pine, Independence, or Bishop, and enjoy a night of A/C and a shower before you kick off. ?But then I don’t suffer from any form of altitude issues so that’s easy for me to say.

Ian

On Jul 20, 2023, at 4:20 PM, Andrew Paisley <andrew.paisley866@...> wrote:

I talked with a Ranger today out of the Mt Whitney office and he said the trailhead and parking are open but the campground was damaged by an avalanche and hence the cancellation.?

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 7:14 PM Natassia Pomroy <natassiapomroy@...> wrote:
Keen to hear the outcome of this.? I have Onion Valley camp booked and Kearsage Pass permit around those dates as well.? Have not received communication?from??as yet.

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 12:59?AM Andrew Paisley <andrew.paisley866@...> wrote:
Hello everyone. Just an update. I received a cancellation notice from Recreation.gov for my campsite reservation at Onion Valley. Apparently there is flooding. My JMT permit has not been canceled yet. My reservation was for Aug 2 with the plan to enter the JMT on Aug 3.? What I don’t know is whether the trailhead or the road to OV is also closed. Obviously this throws the logistics of the trip into question but we will work it out. I have an inquiry to Recreation.gov about access to the trailhead. I also was able to pick up a permit reversing our trek out of Horseshoe Meadow and ending at Onion Valley. I will drop the unused permit as soon as I know what direction I am going.
 

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I have reservations with OV next week that have not been cancelled yet and hopefully won’t be.? There has finally been work done con the campground and water is being diverted.? ?I have been up there.? The problem has been no one there to do work and I heard the FS was waiting to see what the runoff would do.? ?People are camping in the parking lot in their cars overnight and I have seen no ranger presence there.? The bathrooms at the parking lot are open. The pack station is open and has signs offering showers posted.? ?Nothing else is closed and you can always camp at Gilbert Lake or Matlock Lake if needed or if picking up a resupply.? Honestly and sadly, all the forest service reps and people are not on the same page this year.? I have been given the run around about a lot of things this year and that is disappointing. ?I think they are short of help this side of the mountains. ?Trail seems very doable from Kearsarge to Whitney or Cottonwood/horseshoe meadow.? Lauralyn, owner Mt Williamson Motel and Basecamp.

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I talked with a Ranger today out of the Mt Whitney office and he said the trailhead and parking are open but the campground was damaged by an avalanche and hence the cancellation.?

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On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 7:14 PM Natassia Pomroy <natassiapomroy@...> wrote:

Keen to hear the outcome of this.? I have Onion Valley camp booked and Kearsage Pass permit around those dates as well.? Have not received communication?from as yet.

?

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 12:59?AM Andrew Paisley <andrew.paisley866@...> wrote:

Hello everyone. Just an update. I received a cancellation notice from Recreation.gov for my campsite reservation at Onion Valley. Apparently there is flooding. My JMT permit has not been canceled yet. My reservation was for Aug 2 with the plan to enter the JMT on Aug 3.? What I don’t know is whether the trailhead or the road to OV is also closed. Obviously this throws the logistics of the trip into question but we will work it out. I have an inquiry to Recreation.gov about access to the trailhead. I also was able to pick up a permit reversing our trek out of Horseshoe Meadow and ending at Onion Valley. I will drop the unused permit as soon as I know what direction I am going.

 

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weird . my campsites not canceled. they are not near water. check on line. maybe the sit


On Jul 20, 2023, at 5:17 PM, Lauralyn <lauralyn@...> wrote:

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I have reservations with OV next week that have not been cancelled yet and hopefully won’t be.? There has finally been work done con the campground and water is being diverted.? ?I have been up there.? The problem has been no one there to do work and I heard the FS was waiting to see what the runoff would do.? ?People are camping in the parking lot in their cars overnight and I have seen no ranger presence there.? The bathrooms at the parking lot are open. The pack station is open and has signs offering showers posted.? ?Nothing else is closed and you can always camp at Gilbert Lake or Matlock Lake if needed or if picking up a resupply.? Honestly and sadly, all the forest service reps and people are not on the same page this year.? I have been given the run around about a lot of things this year and that is disappointing. ?I think they are short of help this side of the mountains. ?Trail seems very doable from Kearsarge to Whitney or Cottonwood/horseshoe meadow.? Lauralyn, owner Mt Williamson Motel and Basecamp.

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Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 4:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JMT-groups.io] Update re upcoming trip

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I talked with a Ranger today out of the Mt Whitney office and he said the trailhead and parking are open but the campground was damaged by an avalanche and hence the cancellation.?

?

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 7:14 PM Natassia Pomroy <natassiapomroy@...> wrote:

Keen to hear the outcome of this.? I have Onion Valley camp booked and Kearsage Pass permit around those dates as well.? Have not received communication?from as yet.

?

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 12:59?AM Andrew Paisley <andrew.paisley866@...> wrote:

Hello everyone. Just an update. I received a cancellation notice from Recreation.gov for my campsite reservation at Onion Valley. Apparently there is flooding. My JMT permit has not been canceled yet. My reservation was for Aug 2 with the plan to enter the JMT on Aug 3.? What I don’t know is whether the trailhead or the road to OV is also closed. Obviously this throws the logistics of the trip into question but we will work it out. I have an inquiry to Recreation.gov about access to the trailhead. I also was able to pick up a permit reversing our trek out of Horseshoe Meadow and ending at Onion Valley. I will drop the unused permit as soon as I know what direction I am going.

 

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what site do you have?


On Jul 20, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Lauralyn <lauralyn@...> wrote:

?weird . my campsites not canceled. they are not near water. check on line. maybe the site you are at is near the creek. Maybe you can make a different reservation at another camp site. Minwe have not been cancelled yet and are in July. campsite 6 7,8 are one by creek ai think?


On Jul 20, 2023, at 5:17 PM, Lauralyn <lauralyn@...> wrote:

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I have reservations with OV next week that have not been cancelled yet and hopefully won’t be.? There has finally been work done con the campground and water is being diverted.? ?I have been up there.? The problem has been no one there to do work and I heard the FS was waiting to see what the runoff would do.? ?People are camping in the parking lot in their cars overnight and I have seen no ranger presence there.? The bathrooms at the parking lot are open. The pack station is open and has signs offering showers posted.? ?Nothing else is closed and you can always camp at Gilbert Lake or Matlock Lake if needed or if picking up a resupply.? Honestly and sadly, all the forest service reps and people are not on the same page this year.? I have been given the run around about a lot of things this year and that is disappointing. ?I think they are short of help this side of the mountains. ?Trail seems very doable from Kearsarge to Whitney or Cottonwood/horseshoe meadow.? Lauralyn, owner Mt Williamson Motel and Basecamp.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andrew Paisley
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 4:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JMT-groups.io] Update re upcoming trip

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I talked with a Ranger today out of the Mt Whitney office and he said the trailhead and parking are open but the campground was damaged by an avalanche and hence the cancellation.?

?

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 7:14 PM Natassia Pomroy <natassiapomroy@...> wrote:

Keen to hear the outcome of this.? I have Onion Valley camp booked and Kearsage Pass permit around those dates as well.? Have not received communication?from as yet.

?

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 12:59?AM Andrew Paisley <andrew.paisley866@...> wrote:

Hello everyone. Just an update. I received a cancellation notice from Recreation.gov for my campsite reservation at Onion Valley. Apparently there is flooding. My JMT permit has not been canceled yet. My reservation was for Aug 2 with the plan to enter the JMT on Aug 3.? What I don’t know is whether the trailhead or the road to OV is also closed. Obviously this throws the logistics of the trip into question but we will work it out. I have an inquiry to Recreation.gov about access to the trailhead. I also was able to pick up a permit reversing our trek out of Horseshoe Meadow and ending at Onion Valley. I will drop the unused permit as soon as I know what direction I am going.

 

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Re: Onion Valley campground

I was up there two weeks ago, hiked to Robinson Lake so I walked through the campground. The paved road still had water flowing over the top, lots of trees and branches are down and the dirt road to the campsites is extremely rutted from water runoff. The creek/trail to Robinson was moving pretty fast and was about shin-deep.

JeffH
“Be the change that you wish to see?in the world.”?
Mahatma Gandhi
 

I should have posted this earlier, but I’ve had a very busy last two weeks.

During the July 4 weekend, we went over Kearsarge Pass. We had three nights, the plan was to go to Charlotte Lake and maybe down to Vidette.
Here are pictures:
In normal years, we can usually make it from Onion Valley to Charlotte within 6-7 hours. Even with heavy snow, it took us “only” 9 hours a few years ago.

Not this time. It was gorgeous, but the conditions were unbelievable. The heat, combined with all the snow and water, made travel excruciatingly slow. It took us five and a half hours to get to the pass. The high trail to Charlotte was out of the question, so we took the low trail to Kearsarge Lakes.

All snowfields had suncups about foot deep, slippery and soft. By the time we got down to the first lake, we both agreed the 6 miles so far felt like a strenuous 15-mile day. We decided to camp there and take it easy.

The next day, the three or so miles to Charlotte felt like 10, mostly because of suncups and climbing up and down snow drifts. Every little snow free spot had a new creeklet with water gushing. The normal side creeks were calf deep. The JMC-PCT/Kearsarge junction was under almost two feet of water, and the drop to Charlotte had 5-8-foot snow drifts alternating with at least 10 creeks running down the hillside. If you’ve ever climbed Mt. Bago, you might remember the saddle between the two peaks, which is usually dry; now we could see a snow cornice at least 20 feet high.

Regardless, it was great, Charlotte looked amazing with all the melting snow and only four people made it there instead of the dozens who had permits. Mosquitoes were not out yet, but I’m sure that’s changed since.

Another note: we spoke to several PCT-ers and all were complaining that while they were doing 25 miles a day in the desert, they could only do 10 miles a day in these parts. Also, a mountaineer friend who pretty much lives in the High Sierra said he’s never seen suncups like this.
Steven

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