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Starting JMT at Bubb's Creek TH?

 
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Hi

I am thinking of doing the JMT in July 2022. I don't care too much about walking every mile of the trail and so for ease of permitting I was thinking of starting at Bubb's Creek Trailhead in Sequoia-Kings Canyon. It's about 12 miles from the trailhead to the JMT. I'd then head north.?

My question and forgive me if the answer is obvious and I should have figured out on my own: Can one simply start the JMT wherever they wish if they can get a permit? I understand why it's so difficult to get permits at the northern and southern ends, but I wonder if Bubb's Creek is easier? Once I get that permit can I just head east and then north with no further worries about permits?

Thanks and please let me know if my question is not clear.
 

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You can pretty much do what you want once you’re in, with two exceptions, neither of which would apply to you starting at Bubbs and going North. ?The exceptions are:

1 - exiting Whitney Portal - you need an explicit permit for this
2 - exiting Yosemite via Donahue pass going Southbound - you need an explicit permit for this too

Ian


On Jan 2, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Christian M <christian.w.mcmillen@...> wrote:

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[Edited Message Follows]

Hi

I am thinking of doing the JMT in July 2022. I don't care too much about walking every mile of the trail and so for ease of permitting I was thinking of starting at Bubb's Creek Trailhead in Sequoia-Kings Canyon. It's about 12 miles from the trailhead to the JMT. I'd then head north.?

My question and forgive me if the answer is obvious and I should have figured out on my own: Can one simply start the JMT wherever they wish if they can get a permit? I understand why it's so difficult to get permits at the northern and southern ends, but I wonder if Bubb's Creek is easier? Once I get that permit can I just head east and then north with no further worries about permits?

Thanks and please let me know if my question is not clear.
 

You get your permit from the agency that controls your chosen trailhead.? In your case that would be be SEKI. (Sequoia Kings Canyon NP.? )When you apply you indicate how many days on trail, what exit trailhead you plan to use, and give an itinerary of your overnight stays.? Your permit is valid in all the agencies you travel through, and your overnight stops aren't a Rock solid thing.? If you meet a ranger in the Backcountry who wants to check your permit, they aren't going to nitpick.? If you are on your permitted trail within your date window, you are golden.??

On Jan 2, 2022 5:34 PM, Christian M <christian.w.mcmillen@...> wrote:
Hi

I am thinking of doing the JMT in July 2022. I don't care too much about walking every mile of the trail and so for ease of permitting I was thinking of starting at Bubb's Creek Trailhead in Sequoia-Kings Canyon. It's about 12 miles from the trailhead to the JMT. I'd then head north.?

My question and forgive me if the answer is obvious and I should have figured out on my own: Can one simply start the JMT wherever they wish if they can get a permit? I understand why it's so difficult to get permits at the northern and southern ends, but I wonder if Bubb's Creek is easier? Once I get that permit can I just head east and then north with no further worries about permits?

Thanks and please let me know if my question is not clear.
 

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Marion’s answer is much better than mine. ?Mine is accurate, but didn’t tell you much. ?Marion’s tells you what you need to know.

Ian


On Jan 2, 2022, at 6:43 PM, Marion Davison <mardav@...> wrote:

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You get your permit from the agency that controls your chosen trailhead.? In your case that would be be SEKI. (Sequoia Kings Canyon NP.? )When you apply you indicate how many days on trail, what exit trailhead you plan to use, and give an itinerary of your overnight stays.? Your permit is valid in all the agencies you travel through, and your overnight stops aren't a Rock solid thing.? If you meet a ranger in the Backcountry who wants to check your permit, they aren't going to nitpick.? If you are on your permitted trail within your date window, you are golden.??

On Jan 2, 2022 5:34 PM, Christian M <christian.w.mcmillen@...> wrote:
Hi

I am thinking of doing the JMT in July 2022. I don't care too much about walking every mile of the trail and so for ease of permitting I was thinking of starting at Bubb's Creek Trailhead in Sequoia-Kings Canyon. It's about 12 miles from the trailhead to the JMT. I'd then head north.?

My question and forgive me if the answer is obvious and I should have figured out on my own: Can one simply start the JMT wherever they wish if they can get a permit? I understand why it's so difficult to get permits at the northern and southern ends, but I wonder if Bubb's Creek is easier? Once I get that permit can I just head east and then north with no further worries about permits?

Thanks and please let me know if my question is not clear.
Sam Molinari
 

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Actually, you only need a Whitney exit permit if your hike originates in the Inyo.? Also there isn’t a separate Whitney Portal permit; if available, it is a part of your general wilderness permit.? There is also no separate exit permit for Donahue Pass, but it is part of the general permit (again if available).

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Christian:? as far as your question, the answer is yes.? Subject to availability, you can start the JMT on any trail head that leads to it.? We started at Rush Creek and walk to the JMT and then North to Happy Isle where we picked up our car and drove back to June Lake and started south to Whitney again from Rush Creek Trail Head.? Along the way, we met hikers who had started at various points along the trail and while most of them started on east side THs, we did meet a number of people who had started from westside THs, particularly after the Inyo closed due to the fire situation.

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Where ever you do start, it will knock your socks off.? This was our third year trying the trail and it never got boring. ?

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From: Ian Goldsmith
Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:37 PM
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You can pretty much do what you want once you’re in, with two exceptions, neither of which would apply to you starting at Bubbs and going North. ?The exceptions are:

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1 - exiting Whitney Portal - you need an explicit permit for this

2 - exiting Yosemite via Donahue pass going Southbound - you need an explicit permit for this too

?

Ian



On Jan 2, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Christian M <christian.w.mcmillen@...> wrote:

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[Edited Message Follows]

Hi

I am thinking of doing the JMT in July 2022. I don't care too much about walking every mile of the trail and so for ease of permitting I was thinking of starting at Bubb's Creek Trailhead in Sequoia-Kings Canyon. It's about 12 miles from the trailhead to the JMT. I'd then head north.?

My question and forgive me if the answer is obvious and I should have figured out on my own: Can one simply start the JMT wherever they wish if they can get a permit? I understand why it's so difficult to get permits at the northern and southern ends, but I wonder if Bubb's Creek is easier? Once I get that permit can I just head east and then north with no further worries about permits?

Thanks and please let me know if my question is not clear.

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I see that SEKI has moved wilderness permits to recreation.gov.

Bubbs Creek is one of the trailheads for the very popular Rae Lakes Loop so it might not be easier to get a permit there. All available permits for Bubbs Creek and Woods Creek were reserved today for July 2, while there were still some Inyo permits that access the JMT available when I looked this evening.

Inyo has a list of alternate JMT entry points at . I don't know if that is a full list of all possible JMT trailheads. There are some Inyo permits that do NOT allow access to the JMT/PCT.

Frank

On 1/2/2022 5:34 PM, Christian M wrote:

Hi

I am thinking of doing the JMT in July 2022. I don't care too much about walking every mile of the trail and so for ease of permitting I was thinking of starting at Bubb's Creek Trailhead in Sequoia-Kings Canyon. It's about 12 miles from the trailhead to the JMT. I'd then head north.?

My question and forgive me if the answer is obvious and I should have figured out on my own: Can one simply start the JMT wherever they wish if they can get a permit? I understand why it's so difficult to get permits at the northern and southern ends, but I wonder if Bubb's Creek is easier? Once I get that permit can I just head east and then north with no further worries about permits?

Thanks and please let me know if my question is not clear.

--
Frank
 

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Hi Marion..or someone,

I keep getting bounced back and forth between the recreation.gov and nps websites...but can't find the form and place to submit to the permit request.

Do you or someone have the actual link to those pages....

Thanks...

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Marion Davison <mardav@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:43:42 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [JMT-groups.io] Starting JMT at Bubb's Creek TH?
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You get your permit from the agency that controls your chosen trailhead.? In your case that would be be SEKI. (Sequoia Kings Canyon NP.? )When you apply you indicate how many days on trail, what exit trailhead you plan to use, and give an itinerary of your overnight stays.? Your permit is valid in all the agencies you travel through, and your overnight stops aren't a Rock solid thing.? If you meet a ranger in the Backcountry who wants to check your permit, they aren't going to nitpick.? If you are on your permitted trail within your date window, you are golden.??

On Jan 2, 2022 5:34 PM, Christian M <christian.w.mcmillen@...> wrote:
Hi

I am thinking of doing the JMT in July 2022. I don't care too much about walking every mile of the trail and so for ease of permitting I was thinking of starting at Bubb's Creek Trailhead in Sequoia-Kings Canyon. It's about 12 miles from the trailhead to the JMT. I'd then head north.?

My question and forgive me if the answer is obvious and I should have figured out on my own: Can one simply start the JMT wherever they wish if they can get a permit? I understand why it's so difficult to get permits at the northern and southern ends, but I wonder if Bubb's Creek is easier? Once I get that permit can I just head east and then north with no further worries about permits?

Thanks and please let me know if my question is not clear.
 

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The originating agency should have a link to their recreation.gov permit page on their wilderness permit page.
For the SEKI Bubbs Creek permit

I have found that Inga's Adventures site has the most current discussion of JMT permitting.
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Frank
On 1/3/2022 7:26 AM, oschiopu6 wrote:

Hi Marion..or someone,

I keep getting bounced back and forth between the recreation.gov and nps websites...but can't find the form and place to submit to the permit request.

Do you or someone have the actual link to those pages....

Thanks...
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Marion Davison <mardav@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:43:42 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [JMT-groups.io] Starting JMT at Bubb's Creek TH?
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You get your permit from the agency that controls your chosen trailhead.? In your case that would be be SEKI. (Sequoia Kings Canyon NP.? )When you apply you indicate how many days on trail, what exit trailhead you plan to use, and give an itinerary of your overnight stays.? Your permit is valid in all the agencies you travel through, and your overnight stops aren't a Rock solid thing.? If you meet a ranger in the Backcountry who wants to check your permit, they aren't going to nitpick.? If you are on your permitted trail within your date window, you are golden.??

On Jan 2, 2022 5:34 PM, Christian M <christian.w.mcmillen@...> wrote:
Hi

I am thinking of doing the JMT in July 2022. I don't care too much about walking every mile of the trail and so for ease of permitting I was thinking of starting at Bubb's Creek Trailhead in Sequoia-Kings Canyon. It's about 12 miles from the trailhead to the JMT. I'd then head north.?

My question and forgive me if the answer is obvious and I should have figured out on my own: Can one simply start the JMT wherever they wish if they can get a permit? I understand why it's so difficult to get permits at the northern and southern ends, but I wonder if Bubb's Creek is easier? Once I get that permit can I just head east and then north with no further worries about permits?

Thanks and please let me know if my question is not clear.


--
Frank
 

Thanks for all the replies! Very helpful. I will keep researching to figure out where best to start--and when.

Happy new year?

Christian?
Sam Molinari
 

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Your most welcome.? I have one more recommendation:? Just do it.? The trail is well worth all of the logistical and permitting complications.? Enjoy yourself and good luck.

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From: Christian M
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 8:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JMT-groups.io] Starting JMT at Bubb's Creek TH?

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Thanks for all the replies! Very helpful. I will keep researching to figure out where best to start--and when.

Happy new year?

Christian?

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All the relevant permit links are in my article.
 

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Super amazing...thanks Inga...!
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Inga <ingasadventures@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 9:12:25 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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All the relevant permit links are in my article.

 

Yes! good idea. I was a fire lookout in SEKI in 1993, did an 11 day trip on the High Sierra Trail in 2000, spent a few days in 2012 in Cedar Grove (and hiked Bubb's Creek) and then spent a week in 2019 at Muir Trail Ranch. That's all left me only wanting more. Next summer is the time.?

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