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Skurka’s Over the Top route SOBO

 

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My niece and I are going SOBO starting from the Mono/Parker Pass TH 7/7. We have been monitoring the situation at the site of the bridge over the SF of the San Joaquin to determine if there's any chance of a water crossing - seems sketch - or do we commit to the Piute->town of Bishop->Bishop Pass workaround. The choice has food resupply implications for our planning.?

We've seen FarOut comments from several NOBO PCTers that have successfully used this route.

?However, after examining the route on CalTopo, we are concerned about taking the ?route going southbound. In particular the descent back down to the trail seems fairly steep from 9800' to 9400'. Has anyone seen a report on using the route going south?

Thanks
John

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John,

The section of the trail coming back down from Bishop Pass to the JMT is a very nice section of trail and the last section that you are concerned about is a well graded trail and not steep. I’ve been over Bishop pass a couple of times and find it one of the most enjoyable sections of trail I have hiked in the Sierra’s and I really enjoy the views you have of Le Conte canyon as you climb up or come back down to the JMT.

Mike
 

I concur.? I did Bishop Pass to Kearsarge a couple of years ago and the section from Dusy Basin to the valley is awesome.? I'll be doing it in reverse this year coming from North Lake via Lamarck Col.? I'm not really looking forward to the climb out of Le Conte canyon, but it's a short day for me so I'll be taking it easy.


On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 10:51?AM Michael Mineart via <mvmineart=[email protected]> wrote:
John,

The section of the trail coming back down from Bishop Pass to the JMT is a very nice section of trail and the last section that you are concerned about is a well graded trail and not steep.? I’ve been over Bishop pass a couple of times and find it one of the most enjoyable sections of trail I have hiked in the Sierra’s and I really enjoy the views you have of Le Conte canyon as you climb up or come back down to the JMT.

Mike
 

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Thanks.? For completeness, what are people's thoughts on using Skurka's Over the Top route, but going southbound?
Thanks,
John

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I concur.? I did Bishop Pass to Kearsarge a couple of years ago and the section from Dusy Basin to the valley is awesome.? I'll be doing it in reverse this year coming from North Lake via Lamarck Col.? I'm not really looking forward to the climb out of Le Conte canyon, but it's a short day for me so I'll be taking it easy.

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 10:51?AM Michael Mineart via <mvmineart=[email protected]> wrote:
John,

The section of the trail coming back down from Bishop Pass to the JMT is a very nice section of trail and the last section that you are concerned about is a well graded trail and not steep.? I’ve been over Bishop pass a couple of times and find it one of the most enjoyable sections of trail I have hiked in the Sierra’s and I really enjoy the views you have of Le Conte canyon as you climb up or come back down to the JMT.

Mike
 

I wouldn't think going up versus down would make much difference since there is no actual climbing involved. Says the guy who has not done it.

Sounds like crossing the river is a little spooky at this point, but maybe by the time you get there it will have calmed down. I crossed last September without issue.

San Joaquin crossing:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/68745971@N06/53209918557/in/album-72177720311426402/
Sam Molinari
 

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Note: ?once construction of the new bridge starts, the FS may limit or prohibit crossing in the bridge area.

On Jun 15, 2024, at 5:09?PM, Half Dot via groups.io <half_dot@...> wrote:

?I wouldn't think going up versus down would make much difference since there is no actual climbing involved. Says the guy who has not done it.

Sounds like crossing the river is a little spooky at this point, but maybe by the time you get there it will have calmed down. I crossed last September without issue.

San Joaquin crossing:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/68745971@N06/53209918557/in/album-72177720311426402/

 

Hi,

I will be travelling SOBO mid-august and probably take the suggested Piute pass detour. Seems like a big stretch for one day though. I understood that you can hitchhike between the north and south lake but still a long way.
Shifting through forums it seems that I could spend a night before and after switching from one trailhead to another, so before leaving north lake and after entering south lake. is that so?
- where is it advisable and allowed to camp over night, before proceeding?
Is there any new standard by now?
- lamarck col also should be possible mid-august? depending on snow conditions of course. I don't plan to take crampons or ice axe with me..

thx


Am Fr., 14. Juni 2024 um 15:40?Uhr schrieb John McKenna via <jwm00=[email protected]>:

My niece and I are going SOBO starting from the Mono/Parker Pass TH 7/7. We have been monitoring the situation at the site of the bridge over the SF of the San Joaquin to determine if there's any chance of a water crossing - seems sketch - or do we commit to the Piute->town of Bishop->Bishop Pass workaround. The choice has food resupply implications for our planning.?

We've seen FarOut comments from several NOBO PCTers that have successfully used this route.

?However, after examining the route on CalTopo, we are concerned about taking the ?route going southbound. In particular the descent back down to the trail seems fairly steep from 9800' to 9400'. Has anyone seen a report on using the route going south?

Thanks
John

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Lamarck col holds a high angle snowfield on the North lake side. ?When we went in Sept it was possible to climb around on large block talus. ?The descent to Darwin lakes is talus/sand and was dry when we went over. ?If you go the Lamarck way I think traction would be advisable. I would check trip reports closer to the time of your travel. ?It is a spectacular area and might be worth the extra weight. ?Travel in Darwin bench requires some talus travel along the lakes and is a bit slow and fatiguing

On Jun 19, 2024, at 11:21?AM, Christine B. <busschristine7@...> wrote:

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Hi,

I will be travelling SOBO mid-august and probably take the suggested Piute pass detour. Seems like a big stretch for one day though. I understood that you can hitchhike between the north and south lake but still a long way.
Shifting through forums it seems that I could spend a night before and after switching from one trailhead to another, so before leaving north lake and after entering south lake. is that so?
- where is it advisable and allowed to camp over night, before proceeding?
Is there any new standard by now?
- lamarck col also should be possible mid-august? depending on snow conditions of course. I don't plan to take crampons or ice axe with me..

thx


Am Fr., 14. Juni 2024 um 15:40?Uhr schrieb John McKenna via <jwm00=[email protected]>:
My niece and I are going SOBO starting from the Mono/Parker Pass TH 7/7. We have been monitoring the situation at the site of the bridge over the SF of the San Joaquin to determine if there's any chance of a water crossing - seems sketch - or do we commit to the Piute->town of Bishop->Bishop Pass workaround. The choice has food resupply implications for our planning.?

We've seen FarOut comments from several NOBO PCTers that have successfully used this route.

?However, after examining the route on CalTopo, we are concerned about taking the ?route going southbound. In particular the descent back down to the trail seems fairly steep from 9800' to 9400'. Has anyone seen a report on using the route going south?

Thanks
John

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thank you. I'm also considering the high route, but probably would end up with the safe route and come back for the missing JMT another time.

Am Mi., 19. Juni 2024 um 20:34?Uhr schrieb Tom Kennefick via <tomkennefick=[email protected]>:

Lamarck col holds a high angle snowfield on the North lake side.? When we went in Sept it was possible to climb around on large block talus.? The descent to Darwin lakes is talus/sand and was dry when we went over.? If you go the Lamarck way I think traction would be advisable. I would check trip reports closer to the time of your travel.? It is a spectacular area and might be worth the extra weight.? Travel in Darwin bench requires some talus travel along the lakes and is a bit slow and fatiguing

On Jun 19, 2024, at 11:21?AM, Christine B. <busschristine7@...> wrote:

?
Hi,

I will be travelling SOBO mid-august and probably take the suggested Piute pass detour. Seems like a big stretch for one day though. I understood that you can hitchhike between the north and south lake but still a long way.
Shifting through forums it seems that I could spend a night before and after switching from one trailhead to another, so before leaving north lake and after entering south lake. is that so?
- where is it advisable and allowed to camp over night, before proceeding?
Is there any new standard by now?
- lamarck col also should be possible mid-august? depending on snow conditions of course. I don't plan to take crampons or ice axe with me..

thx


Am Fr., 14. Juni 2024 um 15:40?Uhr schrieb John McKenna via <jwm00=[email protected]>:
My niece and I are going SOBO starting from the Mono/Parker Pass TH 7/7. We have been monitoring the situation at the site of the bridge over the SF of the San Joaquin to determine if there's any chance of a water crossing - seems sketch - or do we commit to the Piute->town of Bishop->Bishop Pass workaround. The choice has food resupply implications for our planning.?

We've seen FarOut comments from several NOBO PCTers that have successfully used this route.

?However, after examining the route on CalTopo, we are concerned about taking the ?route going southbound. In particular the descent back down to the trail seems fairly steep from 9800' to 9400'. Has anyone seen a report on using the route going south?

Thanks
John

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