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For a few reasons I was unable to backpack during during the 2019 and 2020 seasons. Returning this year to the Sierra I was a little surprised to observe a new trend in clothing: the lightweight fabric "hoodie". Lots of people seemed to have these on. I think it was mostly people under 35. Scanning the REI and Patagonia websites I don't see these items. So I'm sort of curious how/why they've become the newest thing. Who is selling them? Why are they so desirable?

For sure they protect people's necks/ears from UV, at least to some extent. I do wonder if they are hot compared to the classic floppy hat. Having not tried one I reserve judgement. But it's an interesting fad/trend/whatever, to say the least.

Is this a really new thing, like just this year? Or did it start a couple of years ago? #curious


 

They are a thing. There are several of them for sale at REI. I’m old school, and I tend to run hot, so I haven’t investigated them.


 

I ran low on sunscreen last week, and copied the hoodie crowd by wearing my Houdini wind shirt. Worked fine, and not too hot. All I had to apply sunscreen to was my face.
Mike

On 08/29/2021 7:42 PM Jeff Manas via groups.io <jeffmanas@...> wrote:


They are a thing. There are several of them for sale at REI. I’m old school, and I tend to run hot, so I haven’t investigated them.


 

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they're usually referred to as "sun hoodies". one of our extended backpacking group has been wearing one for years and claims they are better than sun hats. he does bring a trucker hat when a brim is called for.

On Aug 29, 2021 17:42, "Jeff Manas via groups.io" <jeffmanas@...> wrote:

They are a thing. There are several of them for sale at REI. I’m old school, and I tend to run hot, so I haven’t investigated them.






 

I noticed that too and picked one up and tried it out for a couple of hikes! I got it mostly for the UV protection on my neck and ears. They are comfortable and also helps keep the mosquitoes at bay in camp. Got my from REI. Just Google hiking sub protective hoodie! Always something new!




On Sunday, August 29, 2021, 5:55 PM, Nathan <nathanhowell@...> wrote:

they're usually referred to as "sun hoodies". one of our extended backpacking group has been wearing one for years and claims they are better than sun hats. he does bring a trucker hat when a brim is called for.

On Aug 29, 2021 17:42, "Jeff Manas via groups.io" <jeffmanas@...> wrote:
They are a thing. There are several of them for sale at REI. I’m old school, and I tend to run hot, so I haven’t investigated them.






 

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I wore one for the first time this year. It was really cool & comfy for the warm weather. Kept the sun off ?& breathed well. It was great the first trip, but didn’t smell as good the 2nd trip.?


On Aug 29, 2021, at 18:27, Karl via groups.io <karlsauer@...> wrote:

? I noticed that too and picked one up and tried it out for a couple of hikes! I got it mostly for the UV protection on my neck and ears. They are comfortable and also helps keep the mosquitoes at bay in camp. Got my from REI. Just Google hiking sub protective hoodie! Always something new!




On Sunday, August 29, 2021, 5:55 PM, Nathan <nathanhowell@...> wrote:

they're usually referred to as "sun hoodies". one of our extended backpacking group has been wearing one for years and claims they are better than sun hats. he does bring a trucker hat when a brim is called for.

On Aug 29, 2021 17:42, "Jeff Manas via groups.io" <jeffmanas@...> wrote:
They are a thing. There are several of them for sale at REI. I’m old school, and I tend to run hot, so I haven’t investigated them.






Carol B
 

I love love my Patagonia Capilene Cool hoody. I’m not sure if they sell them anymore as they’re out of stock on the Canadian site


 

Hoodies have had a real upswing the past couple years (and especially this year). I bought one this year as it seemed like a good option for limiting sun exposure on the trail - was actually hard to find them in stock. I had a melanoma removed from my neck when I was 20 - caught it early, fortunately, but it was a shot across the bow. Hence, I always have an eye out for good "sun safe wear" that reduces the tons of sunscreen I normally have to wear. Neck and ears are classic unprotected sun burn / skin cancer locations, and I'm hoping the hoody will provide better coverage than my hat (possibly even used together???). I haven't gone down the "silver hiker umbrella" path yet, we'll see how the hoody works first.

The one I got (Outdoor Research) is very light weight material - like a running shirt - so will hopefully stay cool. I live in Australia so will have plenty of hot hiking weather to test it this summer.

Regards,
Lange


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Carol B, just saw this voluntary recall of sun wear products on the Patagonia website - might help explain the lack of stock:

"We recently discovered that some products in two of our sun protection lines—Capilene? Cool Daily and Tropic Comfort—do not meet the 50+ UPF (Ultraviolet Protection Factor) rating we claimed for them. If you own one of these products, please know: They still offer solid UV protection. It’s just not as much as advertised.
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Our tests confirm a range of 17–45 UPF instead of 50+, averaging 34 UPF. The good news is that even at 17 UPF, the products block 92% of the sun’s ultraviolet rays. The bad news is that we didn’t deliver on our goal to offer you the highest level of sun protection. We’ve pulled our existing inventory and halted distribution of the affected styles until we can fix the problem."


Carol B
 

Tes, i seem to recall that but i’m totally fibe with that still huge Uv number. I actually sleep in it usually then wear if needed and swap out for a different sleep shirt


 

Sun hoodies are a necessity on a glacier (as well as glacier sunglasses and sunblock). They are an excellent layer for any mountain travel. Instead of being hot, they provide shade and are actually cooling. You don't need to wear anything else underneath. The hood should be large enough to cover over your hat (with brim if sunny) or helmet. The hoodie part will protect your ears, neck and hair from the sun glare. It's nice if the arms have thumb holes so the tops of your hands are also protected from the sun. You will still need sunblock for any exposed skin area + lips. But, you will need much less of it - less to carry and less to get into the streams if you decide to jump in....

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On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 8:55 PM Nathan <nathanhowell@...> wrote:
they're usually referred to as "sun hoodies". one of our extended backpacking group has been wearing one for years and claims they are better than sun hats. he does bring a trucker hat when a brim is called for.

On Aug 29, 2021 17:42, "Jeff Manas via " <jeffmanas=[email protected]> wrote:
They are a thing. There are several of them for sale at REI. I’m old school, and I tend to run hot, so I haven’t investigated them.






 

Not sure about sun hoodies but my Outdoor Research sun runner cap has been with me on all of my Sierra Nevada hikes. Cuts down on the need for sunscreen substantially.


 

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I think they’ve been around for a few years but their mainstream popularity just picked up recently. ?I hiked JMT with an exoffico hoodie in 2019 and am sold. I work on film sets where I am often outside all day with no cover so they have become my everyday work shirts as well. ?I own 5 OR echo hoodies and just splurged on a?fjallraven sun shirt, it’s astonishingly airy and lightweight. ?Definitely a thing because my coworkers have all started wearing them too - a lot of chatter on set about how great sun hoodies are.?

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On Aug 30, 2021, at 07:51, ravi_jmt2013 <ravi@...> wrote:

?Not sure about sun hoodies but my Outdoor Research sun runner cap has been with me on all of my Sierra Nevada hikes. Cuts down on the need for sunscreen substantially.


 

I went with the Calinlene Cool hoody from Patagonia last JMT as well as this year.

I keeps your skin very cool and I put the hood over my trucker hat for extra shade. It’s a great shirt. Highly recommend.

Heather McCoy
@mermaidlovesmountains

On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Mike Sherman <msherman55@...> wrote:

?I ran low on sunscreen last week, and copied the hoodie crowd by wearing my Houdini wind shirt. Worked fine, and not too hot. All I had to apply sunscreen to was my face.
Mike

On 08/29/2021 7:42 PM Jeff Manas via groups.io <jeffmanas@...> wrote:


They are a thing. There are several of them for sale at REI. I’m old school, and I tend to run hot, so I haven’t investigated them.





 

I've been running and backpacking in sun hoodies for a year now, and I love them. And if you search REI for sun hoody, you'll find them. I wear ones from Patagonia?and Mountain Hardware with my running cap. They're lightweight, breathable, and the most effective way at protecting my skin from the sun. I'm a major convert. Fun fact: I think they were originally designed and marketed for fishermen.?


On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 9:48 AM Heather Lee McCoy <so_calgirl@...> wrote:
I went with the Calinlene Cool hoody from Patagonia last JMT as well as this year.

I keeps your skin very cool and I put the hood over my trucker hat for extra shade. It’s a great shirt. Highly recommend.

Heather McCoy
@mermaidlovesmountains

> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Mike Sherman <msherman55@...> wrote:
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> ?I ran low on sunscreen last week, and copied the hoodie crowd by wearing my Houdini wind shirt. Worked fine, and not too hot. All I had to apply sunscreen to was my face.
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>> On 08/29/2021 7:42 PM Jeff Manas via <jeffmanas=[email protected]> wrote:
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Patagonia sells them (amongst many others).? They're 'sun hoodies' and come from fishing/surfing.? I personally love them for keeping the sun off me.


On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 at 20:30, fredxz via <fredxz=[email protected]> wrote:
For a few reasons I was unable to backpack during during the 2019 and 2020 seasons. Returning this year to the Sierra I was a little surprised to observe a new trend in clothing: the lightweight fabric "hoodie". Lots of people seemed to have these on. I think it was mostly people under 35. Scanning the REI and Patagonia websites I don't see these items. So I'm sort of curious how/why they've become the newest thing. Who is selling them? Why are they so desirable?

For sure they protect people's necks/ears from UV, at least to some extent. I do wonder if they are hot compared to the classic floppy hat. Having not tried one I reserve judgement. But it's an interesting fad/trend/whatever, to say the least.

Is this a really new thing, like just this year? Or did it start a couple of years ago? #curious



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Well I'm going to have to try one. I believe that most of the UV your skin sees is from the blue sky, not directly from the sun. So something with full coverage like that makes sense. It just looks kind of "alien" somehow. Or maybe like people are channeling their favorite superhero, sans cape.

But if they work well that's the most important thing, not how fashionable they are. And in any case they look way better than some of those hats (like that dorky one Ravi linked to). :o)


 

I buy mine a size up so that they're extra baggie.? Also, because they're from water sports, they are wicking material, dry quickly, etc.? On the flip side they provide basically no insulative properties.

This is the patagonia one:?

On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 at 13:23, fredxz via <fredxz=[email protected]> wrote:
Well I'm going to have to try one. I believe that most of the UV your skin sees is from the blue sky, not directly from the sun. So something with full coverage like that makes sense. It just looks kind of "alien" somehow. Or maybe like people are channeling their favorite superhero, sans cape.

But if they work well that's the most important thing, not how fashionable they are. And in any case they look way better than some of those hats (like that dorky one Ravi linked to). :o)



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You all have convinced me to give this a try. ? I just got an alpha direct hoodie (senchi) and need to add a light shell layer to my system. ? How wind resistant are these? ? ?


On Aug 30, 2021, at 10:29 AM, George Schlossnagle via groups.io <george@...> wrote:

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I buy mine a size up so that they're extra baggie.? Also, because they're from water sports, they are wicking material, dry quickly, etc.? On the flip side they provide basically no insulative properties.

This is the patagonia one:?

On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 at 13:23, fredxz via <fredxz=[email protected]> wrote:
Well I'm going to have to try one. I believe that most of the UV your skin sees is from the blue sky, not directly from the sun. So something with full coverage like that makes sense. It just looks kind of "alien" somehow. Or maybe like people are channeling their favorite superhero, sans cape.

But if they work well that's the most important thing, not how fashionable they are. And in any case they look way better than some of those hats (like that dorky one Ravi linked to). :o)



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GEORGE SCHLOSSNAGLE
svp, distinguished engineer


 

What we really need is a hoodie shirt with an integral N95 respirator. #smokeisthenewnormal