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Grade 3


Kerri G
 

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What is Grade 3 Braille?
You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.?

On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:

When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as grade 3
contractions. ?Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. ?FRLY is friendly; how
fun is that. ?I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3 code. ??And
one word i use a lot is probably. ?If I had a penny for every time my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. ?I would definitely like p
46 y for probably. ?
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to look at
an APH Orbit. ?But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the code?









 

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Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189 already found in Grade Two.

It’s more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.

?

Dmitry

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.?



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:

?

When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as grade 3
contractions. ?Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. ?FRLY is friendly; how
fun is that. ?I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3 code. ??And
one word i use a lot is probably. ?If I had a penny for every time my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. ?I would definitely like p
46 y for probably. ?
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to look at
an APH Orbit. ?But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


??????????? If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the code?






?


Governor staten
 

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In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been annotated? I’d like to learn to use it.

?

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189 already found in Grade Two.

It’s more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.

?

Dmitry

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.?

?

On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:

?

When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as grade 3
contractions. ?Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. ?FRLY is friendly; how
fun is that. ?I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3 code. ??And
one word i use a lot is probably. ?If I had a penny for every time my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. ?I would definitely like p
46 y for probably. ?
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to look at
an APH Orbit. ?But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


??????????? If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the code?





?


Penny Golden
 

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There were a few british signs that we think of.? F-th sign was faith; gr for grace; gl for glory;? dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the? word signs they have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students.? But I don't even have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen
?
On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been annotated? I’d like to learn to use it.

?

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189 already found in Grade Two.

It’s more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.

?

Dmitry

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.?

?

On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:

?

When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as grade 3
contractions. ?Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. ?FRLY is friendly; how
fun is that. ?I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3 code. ??And
one word i use a lot is probably. ?If I had a penny for every time my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. ?I would definitely like p
46 y for probably. ?
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to look at
an APH Orbit. ?But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


??????????? If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the code?





?



 

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Unfortunately, the best resource in my opinion, was the hard copy course book that used to be studied at Hadley School for the Blind.

I still have it, and it’s a true gem.

However, there is a guy that promotes the use of Grade 3 on this site:

There, you can also download book examples.

?

?

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been annotated? I’d like to learn to use it.

?

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189 already found in Grade Two.

It’s more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.

?

Dmitry

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.?

?

On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:

?

When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as grade 3
contractions. ?Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. ?FRLY is friendly; how
fun is that. ?I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3 code. ??And
one word i use a lot is probably. ?If I had a penny for every time my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. ?I would definitely like p
46 y for probably. ?
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to look at
an APH Orbit. ?But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


??????????? If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the code?




?


 

开云体育

Yeah, I still have that book.

There’s no svr, but most of the examples you’ve listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the guy was teaching me braille.

He’s like: dot 5 l is lord. I’m like: what’s 5 c then? He’s like: Christ. And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had thought I had finished a church school because most of those signs were not part of Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out there.

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

?

There were a few british signs that we think of.? F-th sign was faith; gr for grace; gl for glory;? dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the? word signs they have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students.? But I don't even have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen
?

On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been annotated? I’d like to learn to use it.

?

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189 already found in Grade Two.

It’s more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.

?

Dmitry

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

?

What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.?

?

On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:

?

When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as grade 3
contractions. ?Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. ?FRLY is friendly; how
fun is that. ?I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3 code. ??And
one word i use a lot is probably. ?If I had a penny for every time my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. ?I would definitely like p
46 y for probably. ?
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to look at
an APH Orbit. ?But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


??????????? If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the code?




?

?


 

Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for Christ,
dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto. British Braille
was always irritating because there were so few capital letters. During my
formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three cheers
for spell checkers!

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the guy
was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had thought I
had finished a church school because most of those signs were not part of
Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as
grade 3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is
friendly; how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time
my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would
definitely like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?


 

During my formative years, someone observed that contracted Braille
negatively affects spelling. I learned the truth of this contention when I
began typing class. Three cheers for spell checkers. I'll never again
spell "pavilion" with two l's.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3




There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:


In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as
grade 3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is
friendly; how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time
my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would
definitely like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?


Kerri G
 

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I must agree. However, I still prefer contracted Braille to not contracted.
Always be a first-rate version of yourself,
instead of a second-rate version of?somebody else.
- Judy Garland (1922 - 1969) (Famed?Actress)

On Nov 28, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:

During my formative years, someone observed that contracted Braille
negatively affects spelling. ?I learned the truth of this contention when I
began typing class. ?Three cheers for spell checkers. ?I'll never again
spell "pavilion" with two l's.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3




There were a few british signs that we think of. ?F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; ?dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the ?word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. ?But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:


In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> ?On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as
grade 3
contractions. ?Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. ?FRLY is
friendly; how
fun is that. ?I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. ??And
one word i use a lot is probably. ?If I had a penny for every time
my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. ?I would
definitely like p
46 y for probably. ?
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. ?But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


???????????If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?

















 

I disagree with that assumption because I even did a college paper study on
my brain's behavior when reading braille.
Basically, when sighted people have different parts of their brain
responsible for things like language, memory, vision, touch; in mine there
are plasticity connections among the different centers.
So when I read braille, the visual cortex flashes and encountering braille
characters brings up language, memory, touch recollection.
That is why even seeing dots 56, t would automatically give me ment suffix
because in your memory the two are the same.
Maybe poor spelling happens with those people who jumped straight into
reading and writing braille, without actually acknowledging the letters
first.
But it's still surprising that some people have had troubles with spelling.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Virgil Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for Christ,
dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto. British Braille
was always irritating because there were so few capital letters. During my
formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three cheers
for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the guy
was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had thought I
had finished a church school because most of those signs were not part of
Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as
grade 3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is
friendly; how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time
my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would
definitely like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?


Penny Golden
 

I am afraid I agree with this beneath.? There are good sighted spellers and poor ones.

But when I see words with multiple signs in braille, I think of the letters those represent. When I was learning spelling as a wee tot, we had the b c and d, but can, and do written out in both the grade 2 form and the grade one form.

The hand has a memory as well as the eye for words.? to some this is something of a second nature.

I must be one of those.

Pen

On 11/28/2018 5:23 PM, Dmitriy wrote:
I disagree with that assumption because I even did a college paper study on
my brain's behavior when reading braille.
Basically, when sighted people have different parts of their brain
responsible for things like language, memory, vision, touch; in mine there
are plasticity connections among the different centers.
So when I read braille, the visual cortex flashes and encountering braille
characters brings up language, memory, touch recollection.
That is why even seeing dots 56, t would automatically give me ment suffix
because in your memory the two are the same.
Maybe poor spelling happens with those people who jumped straight into
reading and writing braille, without actually acknowledging the letters
first.
But it's still surprising that some people have had troubles with spelling.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Virgil Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for Christ,
dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto. British Braille
was always irritating because there were so few capital letters. During my
formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three cheers
for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the guy
was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had thought I
had finished a church school because most of those signs were not part of
Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen

On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as
grade 3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is
friendly; how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time
my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would
definitely like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?

















Governor staten
 

I'm a more than decent speller myself. I can see the Braille in my head, grades 1 and two. I've never forgotten spelling, and try to remember when new words show up.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

I am afraid I agree with this beneath. There are good sighted spellers and poor ones.

But when I see words with multiple signs in braille, I think of the letters those represent. When I was learning spelling as a wee tot, we had the b c and d, but can, and do written out in both the grade 2 form and the grade one form.

The hand has a memory as well as the eye for words. to some this is something of a second nature.

I must be one of those.

Pen



On 11/28/2018 5:23 PM, Dmitriy wrote:
I disagree with that assumption because I even did a college paper
study on my brain's behavior when reading braille.
Basically, when sighted people have different parts of their brain
responsible for things like language, memory, vision, touch; in mine
there are plasticity connections among the different centers.
So when I read braille, the visual cortex flashes and encountering
braille characters brings up language, memory, touch recollection.
That is why even seeing dots 56, t would automatically give me ment
suffix because in your memory the two are the same.
Maybe poor spelling happens with those people who jumped straight into
reading and writing braille, without actually acknowledging the
letters first.
But it's still surprising that some people have had troubles with spelling.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Virgil Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for
Christ, dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto.
British Braille was always irritating because there were so few
capital letters. During my formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three
cheers for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the
guy was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had
thought I had finished a church school because most of those signs
were not part of Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith;
gr for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5
G for God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs
they have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a
larger book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But
I don't even have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as grade
3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is friendly;
how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would definitely
like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?



















 

I know a guy who said it wasn't until he was an adult that he learned that
the word "it" was two letters and not an X.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Virgil Cook" <vcook@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3


Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for Christ,
dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto. British Braille
was always irritating because there were so few capital letters. During my
formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three cheers
for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the guy
was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had thought I
had finished a church school because most of those signs were not part of
Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as
grade 3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is
friendly; how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time
my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would
definitely like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?


 

I could imagine it being a problem if they were taught grade 2 from the
start and nobody ever said that dot 5 R means r i g h t for example.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dmitriy" <dlazarev86@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3


I disagree with that assumption because I even did a college paper study on
my brain's behavior when reading braille.
Basically, when sighted people have different parts of their brain
responsible for things like language, memory, vision, touch; in mine there
are plasticity connections among the different centers.
So when I read braille, the visual cortex flashes and encountering braille
characters brings up language, memory, touch recollection.
That is why even seeing dots 56, t would automatically give me ment suffix
because in your memory the two are the same.
Maybe poor spelling happens with those people who jumped straight into
reading and writing braille, without actually acknowledging the letters
first.
But it's still surprising that some people have had troubles with spelling.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Virgil Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for Christ,
dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto. British Braille
was always irritating because there were so few capital letters. During my
formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three cheers
for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the guy
was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had thought I
had finished a church school because most of those signs were not part of
Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as
grade 3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is
friendly; how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time
my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would
definitely like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?


 

Lol, reminds me of a sighted vision teacher I knew who thought it to be
clever that to remember that x means it, she had to think of the word exit.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

I know a guy who said it wasn't until he was an adult that he learned that
the word "it" was two letters and not an X.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Virgil Cook" <vcook@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3


Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for Christ,
dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto. British Braille
was always irritating because there were so few capital letters. During my
formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three cheers
for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the guy
was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had thought I
had finished a church school because most of those signs were not part of
Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a few
others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been annotated?
I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189 already
found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent they
want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you
have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as grade 3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is friendly; how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would definitely like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the code?


 

I wonder how he reacted to "as?"

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

I know a guy who said it wasn't until he was an adult that he learned that
the word "it" was two letters and not an X.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Virgil Cook" <vcook@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3


Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for Christ,
dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto. British Braille
was always irritating because there were so few capital letters. During my
formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three cheers
for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the guy
was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had thought I
had finished a church school because most of those signs were not part of
Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as
grade 3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is
friendly; how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time
my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would
definitely like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?


 

I first learned Grade 1. Then Grade 1-1/2 in the third grade. Then I learned Grade 2 in the fourth grade. I have no doubt that this paradigm helped my spelling. What amazed me when I started teaching writing to college students was how poorly they spelled.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

I'm a more than decent speller myself. I can see the Braille in my head, grades 1 and two. I've never forgotten spelling, and try to remember when new words show up.




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

I am afraid I agree with this beneath. There are good sighted spellers and poor ones.

But when I see words with multiple signs in braille, I think of the letters those represent. When I was learning spelling as a wee tot, we had the b c and d, but can, and do written out in both the grade 2 form and the grade one form.

The hand has a memory as well as the eye for words. to some this is something of a second nature.

I must be one of those.

Pen



On 11/28/2018 5:23 PM, Dmitriy wrote:
I disagree with that assumption because I even did a college paper
study on my brain's behavior when reading braille.
Basically, when sighted people have different parts of their brain
responsible for things like language, memory, vision, touch; in mine
there are plasticity connections among the different centers.
So when I read braille, the visual cortex flashes and encountering
braille characters brings up language, memory, touch recollection.
That is why even seeing dots 56, t would automatically give me ment
suffix because in your memory the two are the same.
Maybe poor spelling happens with those people who jumped straight into
reading and writing braille, without actually acknowledging the
letters first.
But it's still surprising that some people have had troubles with spelling.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Virgil Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for
Christ, dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto.
British Braille was always irritating because there were so few
capital letters. During my formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three
cheers for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the
guy was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had
thought I had finished a church school because most of those signs
were not part of Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith;
gr for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5
G for God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs
they have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a
larger book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But
I don't even have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as grade
3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is friendly;
how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would definitely
like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?



















 

Someone else pointed out that the same part of the brain processes both sight and touch. I have a friend who learned that valuable piece of information while working on her masters.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

I am afraid I agree with this beneath. There are good sighted spellers
and poor ones.

But when I see words with multiple signs in braille, I think of the
letters those represent. When I was learning spelling as a wee tot, we
had the b c and d, but can, and do written out in both the grade 2 form
and the grade one form.

The hand has a memory as well as the eye for words. to some this is
something of a second nature.

I must be one of those.

Pen



On 11/28/2018 5:23 PM, Dmitriy wrote:
I disagree with that assumption because I even did a college paper study on
my brain's behavior when reading braille.
Basically, when sighted people have different parts of their brain
responsible for things like language, memory, vision, touch; in mine there
are plasticity connections among the different centers.
So when I read braille, the visual cortex flashes and encountering braille
characters brings up language, memory, touch recollection.
That is why even seeing dots 56, t would automatically give me ment suffix
because in your memory the two are the same.
Maybe poor spelling happens with those people who jumped straight into
reading and writing braille, without actually acknowledging the letters
first.
But it's still surprising that some people have had troubles with spelling.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Virgil Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for Christ,
dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto. British Braille
was always irritating because there were so few capital letters. During my
formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three cheers
for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the guy
was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had thought I
had finished a church school because most of those signs were not part of
Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as
grade 3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is
friendly; how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time
my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would
definitely like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?



















 

Maybe Z X lowJ
LOL
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Virgil Cook" <vcook@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3


I wonder how he reacted to "as?"

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

I know a guy who said it wasn't until he was an adult that he learned that
the word "it" was two letters and not an X.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Virgil Cook" <vcook@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3


Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for Christ,
dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto. British Braille
was always irritating because there were so few capital letters. During my
formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three cheers
for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the guy
was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had thought I
had finished a church school because most of those signs were not part of
Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith; gr
for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5 G for
God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs they
have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a larger
book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But I don't even
have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as
grade 3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is
friendly; how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time
my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would
definitely like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?


 

Yeah, it's quite interesting.
The brain compensates for the sense that you've lost by creating connections among your other senses.
That's why when I read braille, it's as though I'm visually looking at the characters even though I'm not.

Dmitry

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Virgil Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Someone else pointed out that the same part of the brain processes both sight and touch. I have a friend who learned that valuable piece of information while working on her masters.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

I am afraid I agree with this beneath. There are good sighted spellers and poor ones.

But when I see words with multiple signs in braille, I think of the letters those represent. When I was learning spelling as a wee tot, we had the b c and d, but can, and do written out in both the grade 2 form and the grade one form.

The hand has a memory as well as the eye for words. to some this is something of a second nature.

I must be one of those.

Pen



On 11/28/2018 5:23 PM, Dmitriy wrote:
I disagree with that assumption because I even did a college paper
study on my brain's behavior when reading braille.
Basically, when sighted people have different parts of their brain
responsible for things like language, memory, vision, touch; in mine
there are plasticity connections among the different centers.
So when I read braille, the visual cortex flashes and encountering
braille characters brings up language, memory, touch recollection.
That is why even seeing dots 56, t would automatically give me ment
suffix because in your memory the two are the same.
Maybe poor spelling happens with those people who jumped straight into
reading and writing braille, without actually acknowledging the
letters first.
But it's still surprising that some people have had troubles with spelling.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Virgil Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Several contractions in British Braille are religious: dot 5c for
Christ, dot 5g for God, dot 5j for Jesus, plus dots 4-5-6 for unto.
British Braille was always irritating because there were so few
capital letters. During my formative years, someone argued that contractions result in poor spelling.
I encountered this problem when I started learning to type. Three
cheers for spell checkers!
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Dmitriy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3

Yeah, I still have that book.

There's no svr, but most of the examples you've listed are part of Grade 3.

For the collection of other resources, go here:

www.grade3braille.com

When I had first lost my vision, and had braille home instruction, the
guy was teaching me braille.

He's like: dot 5 l is lord. I'm like: what's 5 c then? He's like: Christ.
And so forth.

By the time I had gone back to my school, my vision teacher had
thought I had finished a church school because most of those signs
were not part of Grade 2 at all.

Later, I found out that the more expended format of braille exists out
there.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Penny Golden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3





There were a few british signs that we think of. F-th sign was faith;
gr for grace; gl for glory; dot5 C for Christ; dot5 J for Jesus; dot5
G for God.
I think svr = Saviour.
To use grade 3 well, it's nice to have a good look at the word signs
they have put in, and the rules that they use.
One summer while I was in a college training course, I re-wrote a
larger book which we then thermoformed and gave to the students. But
I don't even have a copy of it.
I think some teaching books still exist.
Pen


On 11/28/2018 11:24 AM, Governor staten wrote:

In certain texts I have, they use f and the th sign for faith, and a
few others I cannot recall. Is there a place where grade 3 has been
annotated? I'd like to learn to use it.









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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



Grade Three Braille is over 500 more contractions added to the 189
already found in Grade Two.

It's more of a personal stenography where one decides to what extent
they want to use or not use certain signs or rules.



Dmitry





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kerri G via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hale-Braille] Grade 3



What is Grade 3 Braille?

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only
choice you have.



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Virgil Cook <vcook@...> wrote:



When I was in college, I made up many contractions that could easily
be used
by the general user, many of which turned out to be the same as grade
3
contractions. Like others, I find that reading UEB documents slows
me down,
not because of the new symbols so much as the dropping of old
contractions.



-----Original Message-----
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Penny Golden
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hale-Braille] more contractions




As a child, I remember when F R came in as friend. FRLY is friendly;
how
fun is that. I'd add YD for yesterday, as it is in the grade 3
code. And
one word i use a lot is probably. If I had a penny for every time my
students spell "probably" incorrectly, I could retire to the French
Riviera.
Grade three has dots 4-6 y for "bly" maybe it is. I would definitely
like p
46 y for probably.
I have several reading devices; and I sure would love to be able to
look at
an APH Orbit. But all in good time.
Pen


On 11/27/2018 2:44 PM, Governor staten wrote:


If this was a world in which we could fix the Braille
code, how
would you do so? What contractions would you add? It goes without
saying
that the ones they removed would remain. What would you add to the
code?