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Hello Folks,
I just spent 10 minutes of my limited time digging through whiney messages. So, f### it, Ill invest another ten minutes to point the esteemed quorum at a general fact which, we TMI heads, might not like.
A lot of old TMI is worth less than the sum of its parts. My ex lab gypsy recently experienced this upon trying to import a DANAHER 575 curve tracer to Macao. It was a honest customs official who did not try to pilfer the unit, but had her over for a chat. He at first believed that she had found the mother of all import scams, and was utterly shocked AND very unhappy when she showed him that the 575 will actually see use as it stands.
Same for Nixie tubes. I have, in my lab, two Systron Donner Microwave counters (if anyone sees Artek, nudge him from me - dude, I REALLY need me manual back. Please, please man!!! Its now three years!!!! Ill pay shipping. I pay processing. PLEASE; give it back as I did not make a copy before sending it to you).
If we tear them down, the Nixies are worth more than the whole unit. Actually, I have a design called Nixie-be-gone floating around my head, just never came to it...as nixies are maintenance hogs anyways, why not let customers release the Nixie equity to fools who desire it, and improve TMI dispatch reliability.
Either way, with gold prices at a record high thanks to a dude named after a ceramic lavatory equipment, we should expect a lot more scrapping soon. Sorry to bring the depressed news, but 500USD is less than 10 grams of gold.
Tam
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With best regards
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On 07.12.20 04:20, Dave McGuire wrote: On 12/6/20 9:32 PM, Dave Miller wrote:
I am good on a lending library. ? It's a good idea.
I don’t agree with your approach with Pete. ? That is your prerogative.
He has helped many of us out on our quest for nice test equipment. ? I myself have purchased about $10,000 worth of stuff, possibly a bit more, from Pete.? Most of those purchases were good ones.? Not all, but most.? But, importantly, that's not what we're discussing here.
I doubt he got all his stuff for free. ? No one knows how he got his stuff.? But he has claimed to me several times that at much of it did, actually, come for free.
Expecting him to give stuff away for free. ? No one EVER said anything about him giving it away for free.
The value of a item is what the sell and buyer agree to. ? Correct.
Not all the time they agree. ? Correct.? But the line that was crossed was the public threat of destroying the item if his (very high, in this case) price demand was not met.? As I stated earlier, it was inappropriate, uncalled for, and transparent.? I stand by that assertion.
? This is not the first time this has happened, and it's not the first time he's been called out on it.? In fact, it's not even the second, or third time.
I find this a great resource and with my growing collection of HP gear I hope to continue being allowed to read and post but am disappointed with some of the posts today. ? As am I.? Different ones, apparently.
??????????? -Dave
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Hi Tam – ? Which SD manual do you need? 73 – Mike ? Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell NJ 07731 848-245-9115 ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tam Hanna
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Value of gold and tubes ? Hello Folks, ? I just spent 10 minutes of my limited time digging through whiney messages. So, f### it, Ill invest another ten minutes to point the esteemed quorum at a general fact which, we TMI heads, might not like. ? ? A lot of old TMI is worth less than the sum of its parts. My ex lab gypsy recently experienced this upon trying to import a DANAHER 575 curve tracer to Macao. It was a honest customs official who did not try to pilfer the unit, but had her over for a chat. He at first believed that she had found the mother of all import scams, and was utterly shocked AND very unhappy when she showed him that the 575 will actually see use as it stands. ? Same for Nixie tubes. I have, in my lab, two Systron Donner Microwave counters (if anyone sees Artek, nudge him from me - dude, I REALLY need me manual back. Please, please man!!! Its now three years!!!! Ill pay shipping. I pay processing. PLEASE; give it back as I did not make a copy before sending it to you). ? If we tear them down, the Nixies are worth more than the whole unit. Actually, I have a design called Nixie-be-gone floating around my head, just never came to it...as nixies are maintenance hogs anyways, why not let customers release the Nixie equity to fools who desire it, and improve TMI dispatch reliability. ? ? Either way, with gold prices at a record high thanks to a dude named after a ceramic lavatory equipment, we should expect a lot more scrapping soon. Sorry to bring the depressed news, but 500USD is less than 10 grams of gold. ? ? Tam ? ? ? ? ? - - - - - With best regards Tam HANNA ? Enjoy electronics? Join 13500 followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at
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Szia Mihaly,
Systron Donner 6153 or Systron Donner 615x.
I bought one on Ebay, imported it to Slovakia and then -
foolishly without making a copy - sent it to Artek.
Thanks in advance if you have it.
With best regards
Tam HANNA
Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at
On 2020. 12. 07. 13:42, Mike Feher
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Hi Tam –
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Which SD manual do you need? 73 – Mike
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Mike B. Feher, N4FS
89 Arnold Blvd.
Howell NJ 07731
848-245-9115
?
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Tam Hanna
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Value of gold and
tubes
?
Hello Folks,
?
I just spent 10 minutes of my limited
time digging through whiney messages. So, f### it, Ill invest
another ten minutes to point the esteemed quorum at a general
fact which, we TMI heads, might not like.
?
?
A lot of old TMI is worth less than the
sum of its parts. My ex lab gypsy recently experienced this
upon trying to import a DANAHER 575 curve tracer to Macao. It
was a honest customs official who did not try to pilfer the
unit, but had her over for a chat. He at first believed that
she had found the mother of all import scams, and was utterly
shocked AND very unhappy when she showed him that the 575 will
actually see use as it stands.
?
Same for Nixie tubes. I have, in my lab,
two Systron Donner Microwave counters (if anyone sees Artek,
nudge him from me - dude, I REALLY need me manual back.
Please, please man!!! Its now three years!!!! Ill pay
shipping. I pay processing. PLEASE; give it back as I did not
make a copy before sending it to you).
?
If we tear them down, the Nixies are
worth more than the whole unit.
Actually, I have a design called
Nixie-be-gone floating around my head, just never came to
it...as nixies are maintenance hogs anyways, why not let
customers release the Nixie equity to fools who desire it, and
improve TMI dispatch reliability.
?
?
Either way, with gold prices at a record
high thanks to a dude named after a ceramic lavatory
equipment, we should expect a lot more scrapping soon. Sorry
to bring the depressed news, but 500USD is less than 10 grams
of gold.
?
?
Tam
?
?
?
?
?
- - - - -
With best regards
Tam HANNA
?
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Bocsanat Tam, nem vagy itten. A te Magyarol jo, nekem nem jo. 11 voltam amikor ide jotem es mostan 75 vagyog. Minden jot – Mihaly ? Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell NJ 07731 848-245-9115 ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Tam Hanna Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 7:45 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Value of gold and tubes ? Szia Mihaly, Systron Donner 6153 or Systron Donner 615x. ? I bought one on Ebay, imported it to Slovakia and then - foolishly without making a copy - sent it to Artek. ? Thanks in advance if you have it. With best regards Tam HANNA ? Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at On 2020. 12. 07. 13:42, Mike Feher wrote: Hi Tam – ? Which SD manual do you need? 73 – Mike ? Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell NJ 07731 848-245-9115 ? -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tam Hanna
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Value of gold and tubes ? Hello Folks, ? I just spent 10 minutes of my limited time digging through whiney messages. So, f### it, Ill invest another ten minutes to point the esteemed quorum at a general fact which, we TMI heads, might not like. ? ? A lot of old TMI is worth less than the sum of its parts. My ex lab gypsy recently experienced this upon trying to import a DANAHER 575 curve tracer to Macao. It was a honest customs official who did not try to pilfer the unit, but had her over for a chat. He at first believed that she had found the mother of all import scams, and was utterly shocked AND very unhappy when she showed him that the 575 will actually see use as it stands. ? Same for Nixie tubes. I have, in my lab, two Systron Donner Microwave counters (if anyone sees Artek, nudge him from me - dude, I REALLY need me manual back. Please, please man!!! Its now three years!!!! Ill pay shipping. I pay processing. PLEASE; give it back as I did not make a copy before sending it to you). ? If we tear them down, the Nixies are worth more than the whole unit. Actually, I have a design called Nixie-be-gone floating around my head, just never came to it...as nixies are maintenance hogs anyways, why not let customers release the Nixie equity to fools who desire it, and improve TMI dispatch reliability. ? ? Either way, with gold prices at a record high thanks to a dude named after a ceramic lavatory equipment, we should expect a lot more scrapping soon. Sorry to bring the depressed news, but 500USD is less than 10 grams of gold. ? ? Tam ? ? ? ? ? - - - - - With best regards Tam HANNA ? Enjoy electronics? Join 13500 followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at
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On 12/7/20 3:12 AM, Tam Hanna wrote: I just spent 10 minutes of my limited time digging through whiney messages. So, f### it, Ill invest another ten minutes to point the esteemed quorum at a general fact which, we TMI heads, might not like.
A lot of old TMI is worth less than the sum of its parts. My ex lab gypsy recently experienced this upon trying to import a DANAHER 575 curve tracer to Macao. It was a honest customs official who did not try to pilfer the unit, but had her over for a chat. He at first believed that she had found the mother of all import scams, and was utterly shocked AND very unhappy when she showed him that the 575 will actually see use as it stands.
Same for Nixie tubes. I have, in my lab, two Systron Donner Microwave counters (if anyone sees Artek, nudge him from me - dude, I REALLY need me manual back. Please, please man!!! Its now three years!!!! Ill pay shipping. I pay processing. PLEASE; give it back as I did not make a copy before sending it to you).
If we tear them down, the Nixies are worth more than the whole unit. Actually, I have a design called Nixie-be-gone floating around my head, just never came to it...as nixies are maintenance hogs anyways, why not let customers release the Nixie equity to fools who desire it, and improve TMI dispatch reliability.
Either way, with gold prices at a record high thanks to a dude named after a ceramic lavatory equipment, we should expect a lot more scrapping soon. Sorry to bring the depressed news, but 500USD is less than 10 grams of gold. I think we all know that. The point here is that money is not always the only consideration. The sum of the parts is sometimes worth more money than the whole, but the whole is nearly always more useful or desirable than either the money or the parts. Money should never be the only thing one cares about. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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So true Dave.
There is much design history that goes along with the instruments.
Those that are interested should get a copy of the book "Inventions of Opportunity" which are selected articles from the old HP Journals.
GH
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I agree Dave. I have a 5000 sq ft house including the basement, plus 600 in the garage and 900 in the shed. It is all filled to the max. I spent millions on the contents, and I bought the items because I wanted them for myself either for enjoyment or work. So, in my mind, I already got my money’s worth out of them. I have been slowly selling off the small stuff, all for a lot less than what I paid, and have no regrets. 73 – Mike ? Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell NJ 07731 848-245-9115 ? > Either way, with gold prices at a record high thanks to a dude named > after a ceramic lavatory equipment, we should expect a lot more > scrapping soon. Sorry to bring the depressed news, but 500USD is less > than 10 grams of gold. ? ?? I think we all know that.? The point here is that money is not always the only consideration.? The sum of the parts is sometimes worth more money than the whole, but the whole is nearly always more useful or desirable than either the money or the parts. ? ?? Money should never be the only thing one cares about. ? ?????????????? -Dave ? -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA ? ? ?
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Just a FYI...This site has many H-P Journals free for looking
On Monday, December 7, 2020, 10:01:42 AM PST, ghnatiuk@... <ghnatiuk@...> wrote:
So true Dave.
There is much design history that goes along with the instruments.
Those that are interested should get a copy of the book "Inventions of Opportunity" which are selected articles from the old HP Journals.
GH
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Tam, I think I have a pdf of the 6153. I will check when I get home later.
Leon Robinson ?K5JLR
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-------- Original message -------- From: Tam Hanna <tamhan@...> Date: 12/07/2020 6:44 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Value of gold and tubes
Szia Mihaly,
Systron Donner 6153 or Systron Donner 615x.
I bought one on Ebay, imported it to Slovakia and then -
foolishly without making a copy - sent it to Artek.
Thanks in advance if you have it.
With best regards
Tam HANNA
Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at
On 2020. 12. 07. 13:42, Mike Feher
wrote:
Hi Tam –
?
Which SD manual do you need? 73 – Mike
?
Mike B. Feher, N4FS
89 Arnold Blvd.
Howell NJ 07731
848-245-9115
?
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Tam Hanna
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Value of gold and
tubes
?
Hello Folks,
?
I just spent 10 minutes of my limited
time digging through whiney messages. So, f### it, Ill invest
another ten minutes to point the esteemed quorum at a general
fact which, we TMI heads, might not like.
?
?
A lot of old TMI is worth less than the
sum of its parts. My ex lab gypsy recently experienced this
upon trying to import a DANAHER 575 curve tracer to Macao. It
was a honest customs official who did not try to pilfer the
unit, but had her over for a chat. He at first believed that
she had found the mother of all import scams, and was utterly
shocked AND very unhappy when she showed him that the 575 will
actually see use as it stands.
?
Same for Nixie tubes. I have, in my lab,
two Systron Donner Microwave counters (if anyone sees Artek,
nudge him from me - dude, I REALLY need me manual back.
Please, please man!!! Its now three years!!!! Ill pay
shipping. I pay processing. PLEASE; give it back as I did not
make a copy before sending it to you).
?
If we tear them down, the Nixies are
worth more than the whole unit.
Actually, I have a design called
Nixie-be-gone floating around my head, just never came to
it...as nixies are maintenance hogs anyways, why not let
customers release the Nixie equity to fools who desire it, and
improve TMI dispatch reliability.
?
?
Either way, with gold prices at a record
high thanks to a dude named after a ceramic lavatory
equipment, we should expect a lot more scrapping soon. Sorry
to bring the depressed news, but 500USD is less than 10 grams
of gold.
?
?
Tam
?
?
?
?
?
- - - - -
With best regards
Tam HANNA
?
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Hi Jim
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Thank you for finding this and pointing it
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Regards Paul
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December 7, 2020, 10:01:42 AM PST, ghnatiuk@... <ghnatiuk@...>
wrote:
So true Dave.
There is much design history that goes along with the instruments.
Those that are interested should get a copy of the book "Inventions of
Opportunity" which are selected articles from the old HP Journals.
GH
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Hello,
if you can find it, please send it.
Many of my friends wait for it. I think I have had the last print
issue - when I imported it to Slovakia, it was a huge fiest. The
district importation judge had such a counter by chance (she also
was a TMI nut) and photographed a few of the pages
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Tam HANNA
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On 07.12.20 21:15, Leon Robinson wrote:
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Tam,
I think I have a pdf of the 6153.
I will check when I get home later.
Leon Robinson ?K5JLR
-------- Original message --------
From: Tam Hanna <tamhan@...>
Date: 12/07/2020 6:44 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Value of gold and
tubes
Szia Mihaly,
Systron Donner 6153 or Systron Donner 615x.
I bought one on Ebay, imported it to Slovakia and then -
foolishly without making a copy - sent it to Artek.
Thanks in advance if you have it.
With best regards
Tam HANNA
Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at
On 2020. 12. 07. 13:42, Mike Feher
wrote:
Hi Tam –
?
Which SD manual do you need? 73 – Mike
?
Mike B. Feher, N4FS
89 Arnold Blvd.
Howell NJ 07731
848-245-9115
?
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Tam Hanna
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Value of gold and
tubes
?
Hello Folks,
?
I just spent 10 minutes of my limited
time digging through whiney messages. So, f### it, Ill
invest another ten minutes to point the esteemed quorum at a
general fact which, we TMI heads, might not like.
?
?
A lot of old TMI is worth less than
the sum of its parts. My ex lab gypsy recently experienced
this upon trying to import a DANAHER 575 curve tracer to
Macao. It was a honest customs official who did not try to
pilfer the unit, but had her over for a chat. He at first
believed that she had found the mother of all import scams,
and was utterly shocked AND very unhappy when she showed him
that the 575 will actually see use as it stands.
?
Same for Nixie tubes. I have, in my
lab, two Systron Donner Microwave counters (if anyone sees
Artek, nudge him from me - dude, I REALLY need me manual
back. Please, please man!!! Its now three years!!!! Ill pay
shipping. I pay processing. PLEASE; give it back as I did
not make a copy before sending it to you).
?
If we tear them down, the Nixies are
worth more than the whole unit.
Actually, I have a design called
Nixie-be-gone floating around my head, just never came to
it...as nixies are maintenance hogs anyways, why not let
customers release the Nixie equity to fools who desire it,
and improve TMI dispatch reliability.
?
?
Either way, with gold prices at a
record high thanks to a dude named after a ceramic lavatory
equipment, we should expect a lot more scrapping soon. Sorry
to bring the depressed news, but 500USD is less than 10
grams of gold.
?
?
Tam
?
?
?
?
?
- - - - -
With best regards
Tam HANNA
?
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