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INPUT RC NORMALIZER


Jerry Massengale
 

Greetings,

I am in need of an input rc normalizer for adjustments on Tektronix SC501,etc. It is described as a time constant, 1 Mohm x 47pf, part number 067-0541-00. Is this something I can build? Is there a schematic for it?

Jerry


Geoff Blake
 

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Jerry Massengale wrote:

Greetings,

I am in need of an input rc normalizer for adjustments on Tektronix SC501,etc. It is described as a time constant, 1 Mohm x 47pf, part number 067-0541-00. Is this something I can build? Is there a schematic for it?

Jerry
The input normaliser is a series 1M ohm / 47pF capacitor placed in
series with the scope input. It should be as close to the input as
possible. There should be no coax between the input and the
compensator. The 47pF is normally something like a 39pF plus a
trimmer capacitor to set exactly to 47pF. The Tektronix devices
use a chassis mounted male BNC with the C/R soldered to the pin.

It acts as a potential divider and the input capacitance of the
scope is adjusted on an input squarewave, just like compensating a
scope probe.

HTH

Geoff
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The input normaliser is a series 1M ohm / 47pF
No! It is a *parallel* 1M/47pF in *series* with the input.

You knew that of course!

Craig


Geoff Blake
 

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Geoff Blake wrote:

The input normaliser is a series 1M ohm / 47pF capacitor placed in
series with the scope input. It should be as close to the input as
possible. There should be no coax between the input and the
compensator. The 47pF is normally something like a 39pF plus a
trimmer capacitor to set exactly to 47pF. The Tektronix devices
use a chassis mounted male BNC with the C/R soldered to the pin.

It acts as a potential divider and the input capacitance of the
scope is adjusted on an input squarewave, just like compensating a
scope probe.
CORRECTION The series element comprises a 1.0 Mohm and 47pF in
parallel, not as I wrote. I wrote that at work and was interrupted
by about a dozen telephone queries as I wrote.

It is thus:
47pF
|-----||-----|
generator o---| |---o to scope o----|---|-->
|---/&#92;/&#92;/&#92;---| | &#92; input
1M | / circuit
= &#92; of
| / 'scope
| &#92;
o--------------------o o----|---|-->

Sorry for the error.

Geoff

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you can measure scope input capacitance using a capacitance meter or bridge
just remember to take the capacitance of your test leads or coax into account.
i normally just measure the capacitance with the test coax disconnected and then with it hooked up
the 1m ohm resistor shouldnt change the reading significantly.
thats what the 130 lc meter was designed for .
ive seen them used as general purpose measuring devices too.
as you know the compensator will act as a 2x attenuator when driven from a low impedance source.
you should terminate the pulse generator before the coax enters the compensator "i think"

----- Original Message -----
From: Geoff Blake
To: hp group
Cc: tekscope group
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] INPUT RC NORMALIZER


On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Geoff Blake wrote:

> The input normaliser is a series 1M ohm / 47pF capacitor placed in
> series with the scope input. It should be as close to the input as
> possible. There should be no coax between the input and the
> compensator. The 47pF is normally something like a 39pF plus a
> trimmer capacitor to set exactly to 47pF. The Tektronix devices
> use a chassis mounted male BNC with the C/R soldered to the pin.
>
> It acts as a potential divider and the input capacitance of the
> scope is adjusted on an input squarewave, just like compensating a
> scope probe.

CORRECTION The series element comprises a 1.0 Mohm and 47pF in
parallel, not as I wrote. I wrote that at work and was interrupted
by about a dozen telephone queries as I wrote.

It is thus:
47pF
|-----||-----|
generator o---| |---o to scope o----|---|-->
|---/&#92;/&#92;/&#92;---| | &#92; input
1M | / circuit
= &#92; of
| / 'scope
| &#92;
o--------------------o o----|---|-->

Sorry for the error.

Geoff

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