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I upgraded from my 8566A...
Bruce,
I have versions/copies of all the factory production calibration software for the HP8566B.? Support for the HP8566B was sold to a 3rd party entity, so I can't really share any of the production software.? I only kept copies since I wrote a lot of it and maintained it for many years. Also most of it is written in Hpl, originally running on HP9825's and migrated/updated to HP9826's/HP9920's.? We were in the process of converting them to HPBASIC, but the effort was stalled and never finished.? We only got the Electrical Inspection (EI) software converted.? The EI software is similar to the Op. Ver (Verification) software that was made available to customers. All of the HP8566B production software was written to work within a specific instrument/computer environment, which would be difficult to reproduce. |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMaybe your DLPs' should become part of Mark Simms GPIB toolkit? :)
It already has the DLP for TH3 as a batch file, it would be nice to have a suite of them for us 8566 owners to download without other s/w required :D regards Tim
On 26/12/2019 8:49 pm, rmb_guru via
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓý+1 that - its gorgeous! I cant get over how blue the shift key is! - mine's more of a pale lime green. TT On 26/12/2019 6:26 am, Siggi wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Tim I think you mean John Miles? Regards Hardy ? Fra: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] P? vegne af Tim Tuck ? Maybe your DLPs' should become part of Mark Simms GPIB toolkit? :) It already has the DLP for TH3 as a batch file, it would be nice to have a suite of them for us 8566 owners to download without other s/w required :D regards Tim ? On 26/12/2019 8:49 pm, rmb_guru via Groups.Io wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYup - I'm still sleepy, getting over Christmas feast food coma.... thanks for the correction. TT On 27/12/2019 5:55 am, hardyhansendk
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On 12/26/19 1:39 PM, rmb_guru via Groups.Io wrote:
I have versions/copies of all the factory production calibrationWhile we're being morbid (Kirkby started it! ;)) I hope you can make some arrangement for that to be released in the event of your demise. All of the HP8566B production software was written to work within aThere are more 98xx machines out there than you might think! ;) But either way, the program logic and HPIB commands are the important part. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 01:49 AM, rmb_guru wrote:
Sean,Oh... very very VERY cool!! ...I'm going to shoot you an email off list if that's ok with you. As others have said, definitely should make sure this gets archived in a publicly accessible fashion. Sean |
+1 for the prologix ethernet adapter. Works a treat. No problems. SUPER easy to talk to it. Cheap, easy, works as it should, why go anywhere else?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 11:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] I upgraded from my 8566A... On 12/26/19 4:41 AM, Tam Hanna wrote: No. There are 100 000 ways to put a wart on your arse which might also...and then you look up, realize you've had to get Windows to do it, and become sad. Sorry Tam, respectfully, this is BS...I use GPIB every day, for work and not-work, with dozens of instruments in my lab, and I've never had to deal with that proprietary crap. Depending on what I want to get done, the most effective things are a Prologix GPIB-Ethernet adapter which I generally use with R, an ICS GPIB-Ethernet bridge which speaks the VXI-11 protocol (no relation to "VXI"), or any of a small pile of built-here clones of Anders Gustafsson's GPIB-USB adapters connected to either one of my desktop systems or any of the various Raspberry Pis lying around. GPIB is such an easy nut to crack these days that there's really no good reason not to use it, if you need any sort of instrument automation. NI has occasionally made decent hardware over the years, but I won't touch it with a ten-foot pole. They are an absolute asshole of a company with some of the worst-behaved suits in the industry, and they've screwed me multiple times. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
I used to use my HP85B as a universal, works on any HPIB device,
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controller, but I have long since retired it for a Prologix adapter... I use the USB version. It just works, and is easily driven by any programming language that can talk to the serial ports. The commands are easy, following the old DC Hayes "AT" styling. I use either Python, or "R" to drive it. But it is just as easily driven with java, C, C++, forth, Pascal, Basic, APL, emacs... Even Octave and MathCAD can do it directly. I haven't tried it from a spread sheet, but I am sure I could make that happen too. Try that with a National Instruments card... -Chuck Harris W2HX wrote: +1 for the prologix ethernet adapter. Works a treat. No problems. SUPER easy to talk to it. Cheap, easy, works as it should, why go anywhere else? |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHa!? Usually I get the credit for Mark's hard work on Lady Heather or the 7470.EXE renderer.? I think this is the first time the opposite has happened. :) ? Yes, it would be great to get a plain text copy of the factory demo DLP and any others you (rmb_guru) would like to contribute.? I can create a batch file that will upload it to the 8566B, just like IMD_8566B_8568B.bat does for the old T_HIRDIMOD program. ? Re: the choice of GPIB adapter, the 8566B and 8568B work well with pretty much any of them (Agilent/NI/Prologix) supported by the GPIB Toolkit.? If you wanted to record sweeps with the SSM.EXE utility, the NI adapters are the fastest at that and the Prologix Ethernet adapters are the slowest.? Also, one or two of the more obscure command-line utilities will require NI488.2 support.? But there are few operational differences other than that.? ? Both the Prologix USB and Ethernet adapters are much easier to set up than NI adapters, which require downloading and installing hundreds of megabytes' worth of shovelware from NI with various operating system dependencies. ? However -- and this is a big "however" -- if you are using an HP network analyzer with the VNA.EXE utility, or if you think you may want to in the future, you will want to use a genuine NI adapter with those. ?Not only are they much more reliable with VNA.EXE, but they will let you run other third-party utilities such as the Calkit Manager. ? -- john, KE5FX ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of hardyhansendk via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] I upgraded from my 8566A... ? Hi Tim I think you mean John Miles? Regards Hardy ? Fra: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] P? vegne af Tim Tuck ? Maybe your DLPs' should become part of Mark Simms GPIB toolkit? :) It already has the DLP for TH3 as a batch file, it would be nice to have a suite of them for us 8566 owners to download without other s/w required :D regards Tim |
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sorry for being a bit slow in responding here. I was not offended or anything, but I am working to restore my life (low on the Masloff need pyramide, think bed and cooking ability) from the drink intake into my property. If non-NI stuff works well for you, then godspeed to you. My issue is that, I when working in the lab, simply cannot find myself looking for a hair which got into the machine. Plus, for me, most of my friends also use NI cards (government work has its benefits)...so I have access to lots of Visual Basic and C# "examples" pilfered from friends, which I can then abuse, Tam With best regards Tam HANNA Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at On 2019. 12. 26. 17:21, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 12/26/19 4:41 AM, Tam Hanna wrote:No. There are 100 000 ways to put a wart on your arse which might also...and then you look up, realize you've had to get Windows to do it, |