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HP 3048A software without floppy disks

 

Hello,

I asked this question as part of another question on VintHPcom
(/g/VintHPcom/message/7448). However, I believe people
in this group are likely to have familiarity with the 3048A software so
I'm somewhat cross-posting here.

I'm trying to run the HP 3048A software from my HP 382. However, I
believe my floppy drive may be bad. Is there a way to run this software
from program files instead of from floppy disks?

I got the software from hparchive
(). That includes
the disk images and the ASCII files. I can use hpdir/hpdrive to copy the
ASCII files to the hpdrive emulated hard drive. I can then run PHASE
with GET "PHASE". But this then prompts me to input the "PHASE_SUBS"
floppy to proceed. Is there a way to provide the "PHASE_SUBS" ASCII file
instead of the floppy?

I think another way to do this would be to get another GPIB adapter and
emulate a floppy drive with another invocation of hpdrive. But, I'd
prefer to avoid buying another GPIB adapter if I can.

Thanks,
Matt
Lothar baier
 

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Check this

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From: Matt Huszagh via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 8:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3048A software without floppy disks

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Hello,

I asked this question as part of another question on VintHPcom
(/g/VintHPcom/message/7448). However, I believe people
in this group are likely to have familiarity with the 3048A software so
I'm somewhat cross-posting here.

I'm trying to run the HP 3048A software from my HP 382. However, I
believe my floppy drive may be bad. Is there a way to run this software
from program files instead of from floppy disks?

I got the software from hparchive
(). That includes
the disk images and the ASCII files. I can use hpdir/hpdrive to copy the
ASCII files to the hpdrive emulated hard drive. I can then run PHASE
with GET "PHASE". But this then prompts me to input the "PHASE_SUBS"
floppy to proceed. Is there a way to provide the "PHASE_SUBS" ASCII file
instead of the floppy?

I think another way to do this would be to get another GPIB adapter and
emulate a floppy drive with another invocation of hpdrive. But, I'd
prefer to avoid buying another GPIB adapter if I can.

Thanks,
Matt




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"Lothar baier" <Lothar@...> writes:

Check this

PN3048: HP 3048A Phase Noise Analyzer Software for Windows (ke5fx.com)<>
Thanks. That software's great, but unfortunately it's not complete. In
particular it does not allow me to perform the calibration procedure.

Matt
Lothar baier
 

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The last time I used a 3048A based system I was about 25years younger ?? if I remember correctly the system software ran of a HDD on a HP Workstation , later on they swapped the computer to a HP Vectra but I am not sure if they still used the original basic software or HP actually came out with a DOS version .

This thing is a legitimate dinosaur

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Sent from for Windows

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From: Matt Huszagh via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 8:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3048A software without floppy disks

?

Hello,

I asked this question as part of another question on VintHPcom
(/g/VintHPcom/message/7448). However, I believe people
in this group are likely to have familiarity with the 3048A software so
I'm somewhat cross-posting here.

I'm trying to run the HP 3048A software from my HP 382. However, I
believe my floppy drive may be bad. Is there a way to run this software
from program files instead of from floppy disks?

I got the software from hparchive
(). That includes
the disk images and the ASCII files. I can use hpdir/hpdrive to copy the
ASCII files to the hpdrive emulated hard drive. I can then run PHASE
with GET "PHASE". But this then prompts me to input the "PHASE_SUBS"
floppy to proceed. Is there a way to provide the "PHASE_SUBS" ASCII file
instead of the floppy?

I think another way to do this would be to get another GPIB adapter and
emulate a floppy drive with another invocation of hpdrive. But, I'd
prefer to avoid buying another GPIB adapter if I can.

Thanks,
Matt




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On 2/21/22 21:40, Matt Huszagh wrote:
I'm trying to run the HP 3048A software from my HP 382. However, I
believe my floppy drive may be bad. Is there a way to run this software
from program files instead of from floppy disks?
Yes, you can run it from a single volume, like a hard disk or a directory on an SRM server. I run mine via the latter.

In my lab I have an HP9000-382 running HP-UX from a SCSI2SD board, with an SRM card installed in a DIO slot, with the SRM-UX package installed. Over by my 3048A in the other room, I have an HP9000-340 that boots BASIC via SRM. On the SRM server, I have (among many others) a subdirectory called "HP3048A". I change to that directory, load the program, and run it.

I initially copied the files from the floppy disks into the 3048A directory on the SRM server, just piling all of the disks' contents into that directory.

You should be able to do the same thing, by just copying them into a directory on an HP-IB drive. (real or emulated)

-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
 

On 2/21/22 22:00, Lothar baier wrote:
The last time I used a 3048A based system I was about 25years younger ?? if I remember correctly the system software ran of a HDD on a HP Workstation,
That's one of several ways to run it, yes.

later on they swapped the computer to a HP Vectra but I am not sure if they still used the original basic software or HP actually came out with a DOS version .
They came out with a DOS version, it's called "3048A option 301".

This thing is a legitimate dinosaur
[eye roll]

They've been around awhile, but they work great.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
 

Matt,

If you are already emulating a hard disk using hpdrive, you should have enough room to store the programs onto that volume and not have to use other GPIB adapters.

In looking at the "PHASE" program.? You actually need to STORE the two files "PHASE_SUBS" and "SYS_TESTS" as PROG files so that they can be LOADSUB loaded into the running program (see Installsubs, line 6962).? I would do the following for each of the files: "PHASE", "PHASE_SUBS", "SYS_TESTS".

1. GET the original ASCII program file into your HP382.
2. Do a Single-Step to have the loaded program do a Pre-Run.? Note: This speeds up the loading of that program later.
3. Now STORE the program back onto the disk (For example: STORE "PHASEnew").? Note: You have to name it slightly different since there is already a file called "PHASE"

Once you've stored each program file, you will need to rename the original ASCII versions of the files to something else, so that you can rename the new stored program files back to their original names.

Now you should be to do LOAD "PHASE" and RUN the program.? It should be able to do the LOADSUB ALL it needs to do for the "PHASE_SUBS" and "SYS_TESTS" as needed.

You can privately email if you need further assistance...
 

BTW, you can just ignore the prompts to change floppy disks when asked, since all the files are one the same volume.
 

On 2/22/22 01:59, rmb_guru via groups.io wrote:
BTW, you can just ignore the prompts to change floppy disks when asked, since all the files are one the same volume.
It's trivial to edit the source code and comment out that prompt.

-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

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