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Help on HP8601A sweep generator


 

Hi group;
What a great resource this forum is. I recently aquired a HP8601A sweep
generator on E-bay in very nice cosmetic condition. In testing out it's
function it seems to have a failure in the hi-range divider module such
that the unit works on the low range (100khz-11mhz) but not on the hi
range (1-110mhz). I've looked at the Bama manual and it points to
motorola ECL divider chips (HP 1820-0101 = MC1034P & HP 1820-0102 =
MC1013P). They give a troubleshooting procedure to isolate and test the
individual chips that I will attempt this weekend. However looking
ahead is there anyone that can identify a supplier for these vintage
ECL chips in small quanities (like one of each) at reasonable prices?

I thank anyone that can help me out. I'm very impressed with the design
and construction of this vintage HP sweeper and I would really like to
get it functional 100%. Also I'm curious on the years of production of
this unit, the chips had a date code mark of 1971.

Thanks Larry


 

On Wednesday 29 November 2006 10:08, Lefty wrote:
Hi group;
What a great resource this forum is. I recently aquired a HP8601A sweep
generator on E-bay in very nice cosmetic condition. In testing out it's
function it seems to have a failure in the hi-range divider module such
that the unit works on the low range (100khz-11mhz) but not on the hi
range (1-110mhz). I've looked at the Bama manual and it points to
motorola ECL divider chips (HP 1820-0101 = MC1034P & HP 1820-0102 =
MC1013P). They give a troubleshooting procedure to isolate and test the
individual chips that I will attempt this weekend. However looking
ahead is there anyone that can identify a supplier for these vintage
ECL chips in small quanities (like one of each) at reasonable prices?
You can likely replace those with equivalent-function stocked ECL chips (in
the $5 price range). Since the chips you mention are single devices (IIRC
single D and single JK FFs), there are various modern replacements. The
replacements aren't pin-compatible, and usually come in SO package, but it
should be trivial enough to wire them in.

Cheers, Kuba


 

what about sphere electronics in canada
or maybe even deane kidd??

----- Original Message -----
From: Kuba Ober
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Help on HP8601A sweep generator


On Wednesday 29 November 2006 10:08, Lefty wrote:
> Hi group;
> What a great resource this forum is. I recently aquired a HP8601A sweep
> generator on E-bay in very nice cosmetic condition. In testing out it's
> function it seems to have a failure in the hi-range divider module such
> that the unit works on the low range (100khz-11mhz) but not on the hi
> range (1-110mhz). I've looked at the Bama manual and it points to
> motorola ECL divider chips (HP 1820-0101 = MC1034P & HP 1820-0102 =
> MC1013P). They give a troubleshooting procedure to isolate and test the
> individual chips that I will attempt this weekend. However looking
> ahead is there anyone that can identify a supplier for these vintage
> ECL chips in small quanities (like one of each) at reasonable prices?

You can likely replace those with equivalent-function stocked ECL chips (in
the $5 price range). Since the chips you mention are single devices (IIRC
single D and single JK FFs), there are various modern replacements. The
replacements aren't pin-compatible, and usually come in SO package, but it
should be trivial enough to wire them in.

Cheers, Kuba


 

Thanks Kuba... but a search of the Sphere site shows no stock on
those two IC types. And being new here Deane Kidd ?

Larry

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "arthurok"
<arthurok@...> wrote:

what about sphere electronics in canada
or maybe even deane kidd??

----- Original Message -----
From: Kuba Ober
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Help on HP8601A sweep
generator


On Wednesday 29 November 2006 10:08, Lefty wrote:
> Hi group;
> What a great resource this forum is. I recently aquired a
HP8601A sweep
> generator on E-bay in very nice cosmetic condition. In testing
out it's
> function it seems to have a failure in the hi-range divider
module such
> that the unit works on the low range (100khz-11mhz) but not on
the hi
> range (1-110mhz). I've looked at the Bama manual and it points
to
> motorola ECL divider chips (HP 1820-0101 = MC1034P & HP 1820-
0102 =
> MC1013P). They give a troubleshooting procedure to isolate and
test the
> individual chips that I will attempt this weekend. However
looking
> ahead is there anyone that can identify a supplier for these
vintage
> ECL chips in small quanities (like one of each) at reasonable
prices?

You can likely replace those with equivalent-function stocked ECL
chips (in
the $5 price range). Since the chips you mention are single
devices (IIRC
single D and single JK FFs), there are various modern
replacements. The
replacements aren't pin-compatible, and usually come in SO
package, but it
should be trivial enough to wire them in.

Cheers, Kuba




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Pete
 

I missed the original thread on this request; would you please let Lefty(?) know that I have the original parts available
NOS. I will make either one or both available for $2 each + mailing cost.

Regards,
Pete Rawson


 

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "Pete" <peterawson@...>
wrote:

I missed the original thread on this request; would you please let
Lefty(?)
know that I have the original parts available
NOS. I will make either one or both available for $2 each + mailing
cost.

Regards,
Pete Rawson
Thanks a lot Pete, I've sent you an E-mail to make contact

Lefty