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GPIB Adapter?


Bob Macklin
 

Is there a USB GPIB adapter available.

I remember when a GPIB adapter was an ISA interface card.

Yes, I am that old

Bob Macklin
Seattle Wa


 

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Hello,

yes, many, but fake intensive.


If you want to play the game safe, get a PCIe card. But these also come with their own warts, namely an undeclared maximum operating temperature.


Tam

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On 2019. 08. 26. 20:26, Bob Macklin wrote:

Is there a USB GPIB adapter available.

I remember when a GPIB adapter was an ISA interface card.

Yes, I am that old

Bob Macklin
Seattle Wa


 

Yes, Prologix and the KISS one. Google both on this site there is a lot of info.
I use the Prologix and EZGPIB because it is simple and works. You don't need to learn a programming language.
Contact me off line if you want details on using the Prologix. I am about to set up an HP4192A for my friend to get automated readings.
The KISS you are on your own.
Peter.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 2:26 PM Bob Macklin <macklinbob@...> wrote:
Is there a USB GPIB adapter available.

I remember when a GPIB adapter was an ISA interface card.

Yes, I am that old

Bob Macklin
Seattle Wa


 

Full disclosure: I'm the developer and seller of KISS-488, which may or may not suit your needs.

A user made a really nice YouTube video of it (thanks again, Dave!) that you can check out at . Response to that video cleaned out my stock in a few hours. I have another batch in progress, schedule to be here in time to start shipping again Sept 6. There are no fakes of it (yet!) that I'm aware of.

Steve Hendrix

At 2019-08-26 02:27 PM, Tam Hanna wrote:

Hello,

yes, many, but fake intensive.


If you want to play the game safe, get a PCIe card. But these also come with their own warts, namely an undeclared maximum operating temperature.


Tam

With best regards
Tam HANNA 

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On 2019. 08. 26. 20:26, Bob Macklin wrote:
Is there a USB GPIB adapter available.

I remember when a GPIB adapter was an ISA interface card.

Yes, I am that old

Bob Macklin
Seattle Wa


 

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Funny you should mention GPIB and USB together, as I am struggling at work to get Matlab to talk to a National Instruments GPIB-USB-B.? Matlab says I need to download the software, but the company firewall is blocking it.? Grrrr.....

I bet the interface cable is great once you get it working, but no such luck so far.? Good luck.? I'm sure the GPIB-USB-B is not cheap.? Matlab isn't either, but my employer (Raytheon) has the resources to buy basically unlimited numbers of licenses.

I need a bit of that luck, too!

Jim Ford?



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-------- Original message --------
From: Bob Macklin <macklinbob@...>
Date: 8/26/19 11:26 AM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] GPIB Adapter?

Is there a USB GPIB adapter available.

I remember when a GPIB adapter was an ISA interface card.

Yes, I am that old

Bob Macklin
Seattle Wa


Bob Macklin
 

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Did the GPIB start out by using the parallel port?
?
When did the GPIB first appear? Was it made for the minicomputers that preceded the PC.
?
HP got into the minicomputer business with what became the HP-1000 to use as a manufacturing computer. The HP -1000 came into being in the early 70's.
?
Bob Macklin
Seattle, Wa

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] GPIB Adapter?

Full disclosure: I'm the developer and seller of KISS-488, which may or may not suit your needs.

A user made a really nice YouTube video of it (thanks again, Dave!) that you can check out at . Response to that video cleaned out my stock in a few hours. I have another batch in progress, schedule to be here in time to start shipping again Sept 6. There are no fakes of it (yet!) that I'm aware of.

Steve Hendrix

At 2019-08-26 02:27 PM, Tam Hanna wrote:

Hello,

yes, many, but fake intensive.


If you want to play the game safe, get a PCIe card. But these also come with their own warts, namely an undeclared maximum operating temperature.


Tam

With best regards
Tam HANNA 

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On 2019. 08. 26. 20:26, Bob Macklin wrote:
Is there a USB GPIB adapter available.

I remember when a GPIB adapter was an ISA interface card.

Yes, I am that old

Bob Macklin
Seattle Wa


John
 

Bob,

I bought an Agilent 82357B from an e-Bay seller. Yes it was a Chinese seller but here is the wash up:

1.


 

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 02:33 PM, John wrote:
I bought an Agilent 82357B from an e-Bay seller. Yes it was a Chinese seller but here is the wash up:

1.

What a tease!? B^|)

More seriously, if you're up for more of a challenge... there is the AR-488 (KISS and others seems way easier though as a plug and play option).?

?


 

On 8/26/19 5:29 PM, Bob Macklin wrote:
Did the GPIB start out by using the parallel port?
Nope, not even close.

When did the GPIB first appear? Was it made for the minicomputers that
preceded the PC.
Yup. There are GPIB interfaces for Unibus and Qbus PDP-11 and VAX
systems.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


John
 

Damn, hit the tab key again. so here goes again.

The unit was clearly a Keysight produced unit and showed no evidence of having been opened up or reworked. The unit was recognised by the Keysight IO Libraries. The Keysight software reported correctly my Advantest R3465 SA, HP 5334A counter and 3478A DMM. Have yet to try on other HP equipment as project work is occupying my time at the moment. So far it seems genuine and it works as advertised. Just lucky I guess.




It cost me $115.88 Australian Dollars which is not trading well against the USD at the moment so much cheaper in USD.

John Proctor
VK2DLP


 

I've had good luck with my Prologix (? ?) USB to GPIB adapter and John Miles's GPIB toolkit? ?

-eric

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 11:26 AM Bob Macklin <macklinbob@...> wrote:
Is there a USB GPIB adapter available.

I remember when a GPIB adapter was an ISA interface card.

Yes, I am that old

Bob Macklin
Seattle Wa



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--Eric
_________________________________________
Eric Garner


 

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Greetings,

HP made a GPIB (HPIB) to USB adapter model 82357B. ?There almost certainly was an “A" rev as well.

I have used it and the Prologic GPIB to USB adapters with my HP 8568A successfully.

There is a great guy in our group - John Miles - who I believe is very experienced with interfacing HPGIB equipment to USB.

Hopefully you can connect with John. ?I expect he will be great assistance.

Good hunting!

Ken


On 26Aug, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Tam Hanna <tamhan@...> wrote:

Hello,

yes, many, but fake intensive.


If you want to play the game safe, get a PCIe card. But these also come with their own warts, namely an undeclared maximum operating temperature.


Tam

With best regards
Tam HANNA 

Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at  
On 2019. 08. 26. 20:26, Bob Macklin wrote:
Is there a USB GPIB adapter available.

I remember when a GPIB adapter was an ISA interface card.

Yes, I am that old

Bob Macklin
Seattle Wa


 

Something to figure out up front is how many instruments you want to connect with GPIB.? Both USB and non-USB options are available that can address more than one instrument on the bus, but the USB adapters tend to be a bit more constrained in that regard, either because they don't have enough oomph to drive a long bus, or by design (e.g. KISS-488).? Besides the HP clones, Prologix, and KISS-488, there is also an Arduino-based project "AR-488" which seems quite popular now.

Shifting from facts to opinion...? I personally feel that the network-based adapters are underrated.? I picked up an E2050A for ~ $100 and it has solved by GPIB interface issues once and for all.? Plus, I can access my instruments from anywhere in the house, over wifi, or even over the internet if I wanted to.? It works with the horrible VISA drivers if you're forced to go that route; or, if you're only using it with your own scripts and software, you can use the python-vxi11 module instead---much, much nicer.? The E2050A is the oldest and cheapest of these options, but there are later HP/Agilent models as well as some by a company called ICS.? AFAIK all of them are more or less equivalent.

Mark


 

On 8/26/19 7:01 PM, markhaun2000 wrote:
I personally feel that the network-based adapters are underrated.? I picked up an E2050A for ~ $100 and it has solved by GPIB interface issues once and for all.
Has it solved the problem of 7 or so GPIB instrument loads on one GPIB bus, or
is it only solving the "control one GPIB instrument" over the network problem?

If I had 7 instruments to control that solution would cost $700 + shipping and used machine random failures cost.

Productizing AR-488 to sell at $50 and drive 3-4 instruments and have an ethernet port seems like a maybe viable path.


 

I thought that HP invented the HPIB, later GPIB, interface specifically for instrument and computer peripheral control, but GPIO was maybe similar and earlier.
I believe the 83257A/B is rated to drive up to 12 devices, which is quite a lot for most users. Even 7 would take care of many setups I have seen. The E2050A LAN/GPIB device can probably drive a similar number of instruments so it doesn’t require one per instrument as someone appeared to infer.
From Tom Holmes, N8ZM


 

Hi Tom, you may be interested in attached document from 1980, which gives a pretty good description of how everything works. There have been a number of refinements
and performance enhancements over the years but this article covers all the key stuff.
Regards Bill Lauchlan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Holmes
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 10:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] GPIB Adapter?

I thought that HP invented the HPIB, later GPIB, interface specifically for instrument and computer peripheral control, but GPIO was maybe similar and earlier.
I believe the 83257A/B is rated to drive up to 12 devices, which is quite a lot for most users. Even 7 would take care of many setups I have seen. The E2050A LAN/GPIB device can probably drive a similar number of instruments so it doesn’t require one per instrument as someone appeared to infer.
From Tom Holmes, N8ZM


 

Also available on the HP Mini's & some of the HP 982x "calculators" before the micro computers came along


 

The Commodore PET series of computers used IEEE-488 to connect to their disk drives and printers. A lot of them were used to control test equipment, sice they were affordable, and could be controlled by the built in CBM BASIC. I had a nice collection of those systems, but I lost most of the hardware during a move.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:39 PM Bill Higdon via Groups.Io <willard561=[email protected]> wrote:
Also available on the HP Mini's & some of the HP 982x "calculators" before the micro computers came along


 

And this, Prologix like open source kit.



I have two, both work very well.? Not the quickest, but good enough.?
I've used them with (so far) up to two instruments (MI sig-gen, & power
meter) just fine.

There is no reason why the design can't be "augmented" with "Real" bus
driver chips, if you have a "Full" rack of kit you need to use.

Regards.

Dave G0WBX.

(No affiliation, just a happy user.)

--
Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software:


 

At 2019-08-26 02:59 PM, you wrote:
The KISS you are on your own.

Touche'!

I'm sure no offense intended, and none taken here. I respond directly to any requests for help and the email address I provide in the manual comes directly to me (the designer / first user / etc.). If you have questions before purchasing, email me directly off-list at SteveHx@....

Steve Hendrix