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Choosing a quiet replacement fan
Dave C
I read occasionally that owners of T&M equipment tire of the noise a cooling fan makes and asks for help to determine if/how a quieter replacement can be found. There are many factors at play in such a decision, none as simple as "it's quieter".
This web site addresses choosing a fan for PC enclosures, and many of the criteria are the same (heat being the most important one for us): <> A quote: "Over the years, we have observed one clear phenomenon about fans and cooling: The relationship between airflow and temperature invariably becomes exponential at some point. Increase airflow from nothing to something, and the drop in temperature can be dramatic. Keep increasing airflow, and the cooling improvement becomes less and less significant, until at some point, the temperature hardly drops at all. The trick, for the PC builder who seeks both good cooling and low noise, is to find the point where any decrease in airflow (or fan speed) effects a significant increase in temperature, while only a very large airflow increase effects a significant temperature drop. In other words, once you have enough airflow, additional airflow has very little cooling effect, so all you're doing is increasing noise. "Enough airflow" is not a constant, of course, it varies for each system of components." FYI, Dave |
One have to consider the specs from the manuals about operational
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conditions. Most manuals for HP Test Equipment states under "General Specificatioms - Environmentals" operating temperature 0 - 40, even 0 - 55 dgC for HP8866A/B. That means that the intake air can be up to 55 dgC, and the beast will still run cool enough. Imagine how hot the output will be! Try to measure your input and output temperature under normal conditions in your shack, and then calculate your margin. You may have a margin of 25 - 30 dg. Then select fans that will deliver adequate air, and enjoy how quit it can be. Best 73 de OZ5TG, Vern ----- Original Message -----the increasingcriteria are the same (heat being the most important one for us): significant,airflow, and the cooling improvement becomes less and less foruntil at some point, the temperature hardly drops at all. The trick, thethe PC builder who seeks both good cooling and low noise, is to find significantpoint where any decrease in airflow (or fan speed) effects a effectsincrease in temperature, while only a very large airflow increase you'rea significant temperature drop. In other words, once you have enough course,doing is increasing noise. "Enough airflow" is not a constant, of it varies for each system of components." |
I'm not sure what point silentpcfan were trying to make: the advice is
so vague that you can't make any practical use of it. For any "box" of electronics which incorpoates a fan, there is the simple electrical power-in = heat power out balance, and if you make the pessimistic assumption that no heat escapes from the case (by convection), you can calculate the air-flow required for a given air temperature rise (T airin v Tairout) knowing the thermal capacity of air [=circa 33 joules/cu ft/deg C]. They may be tangentially hinting at the characteristics of finned heatsinks when force-air cooled. As the air velocity rises, there is a gradual increase in the temperature drop along the fin (i.e from root to tip at rt angles to the air-flow). I recall this parameter being quantified as "fin efficiency": if the tip is cooled to aroud that of the airstream, it becomes relatively ineffective and the fin should either be thicker or shorter (or both). John --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Dave C wrote: cooling fan makes and asks for help to determine if/how a quieter replacement can be found. There are many factors at play in such a decision, none as simple as "it's quieter". the criteria are the same (heat being the most important one for us): cooling: The relationship between airflow and temperature invariably becomes exponential at some point. Increase airflow from nothing to something, and the drop in temperature can be dramatic. Keep increasing airflow, and the cooling improvement becomes less and less significant, until at some point, the temperature hardly drops at all. The trick, for the PC builder who seeks both good cooling and low noise, is to find the point where any decrease in airflow (or fan speed) effects a significant increase in temperature, while only a very large airflow increase effects a significant temperature drop. In other words, once you have enough airflow, additional airflow has very little cooling effect, so all you're doing is increasing noise. "Enough airflow" is not a constant, of course, it varies for each system of components."
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