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Thanks, Paul, for the background information. I joined the Yahoo group in 2009, so I wouldn't know about what happend 15 years ago in the group.
The topic has been brought up a couple of times in here and also in the Tek group. That's how I came to know that a license exist for distributing manuals of obsolete HP test equipment. At one time I even wanted to apply for one, so that I can make avaiable some of the CLIPs that I scanned and couldn't find elsewhere online. But I didn't follow through. I still think it would be wise to 'stay on the safe side'.
The very CLIP that Milan talked about here (E4400-90336), I bought a pdf copy online in 2019 for not much money, and used it to fix my E4436B. The scan quality isn't as good as the earliver version E4400-90015 I scanned myself, but was good enough and didn't take any guesswork to read. The pdf files were dated 2018 so there may be other copies sold before mine.
-Xu
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Hi XU and Eman ? Thank you Eman for reminding me that Xu makes the excellent replacement LCD displays? for HP equipment and has been a member of this group for a time ? But the copy right issue keeps rising its head and just confuses all that do not have the back ground to the hard work that went into sorting it out ? Best regards ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Orin Eman
Sent: 26 October 2021 08:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Agilent/Keysigh ESG series CLIP ? Xu is hardly new to HP... He's been around here quite a while and?makes the NewScope LCD displays ?:) ? On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:10 AM Paul Bicknell <admin@...> wrote: Dear Xu ? I assume you are new to this site and specifically HP ? ?
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On my best knowledge, "digital"? version of this CLIP never existed. Ony paper in the past but not today.? Milan
Xu is hardly new to HP...
He's been around here quite a while and?makes the NewScope LCD displays ?:) On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:10 AM Paul Bicknell < admin@...> wrote: Dear Xu ? I assume you are new to this site and specifically HP ?
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Xu is hardly new to HP...
He's been around here quite a while and?makes the NewScope LCD displays ?:)
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:10 AM Paul Bicknell < admin@...> wrote: Dear Xu ? I assume you are new to this site and specifically HP ?
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Thank you Paul for clearing this up! BR, Milan
On Tue, 26 Oct 2021, 09:20 Paul Bicknell, < admin@...> wrote: Hi Milan? Bruce is correct? we went through this all over 15 years ago
With several of us talking to the HP offices? all over the would? I personally spoke to HP UK on the subject
So there is no problems with what we are presently doing also HP did come to us for help with providing the manuals they were missing in PDF format
Regards Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce
Sent: 26 October 2021 03:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Agilent/Keysigh ESG series CLIP
Do NOT worry -
I believe HP has issued a blanket permission on most ot their CLIPS.
Chers!
Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
> OK, sorry for publishing this! Please forget all my previous posts.
> Files will go with me...
> Milan
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:53 AM Xu Wang via <simmconn=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> With all the confidential markings on the schematic and such, it¡¯s
>> best to have the manual scanned and distributed by someone who has a
>> license to do so. I¡¯m sure some people in this group have the license
>> to distribute manuals for discontinued/obsolete HP/A/K test
>> equipment. Scanning a pdf for personal or organizational backup is
>> one thing, making it available to the public would be a different matter, for profit or not.
>> By the way, if we see missing line segments on the scanned
>> schematics, more than likely they are not there to begin with. It has
>> to do with the EDA tool that HP used back in the day. I¡¯ve seen
>> original CLIPs missing segments or sometimes entire symbols.
>>
>> -Xu
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Hi Milan Bruce is correct we went through this all over 15 years ago
With several of us talking to the HP offices all over the would I personally spoke to HP UK on the subject
So there is no problems with what we are presently doing also HP did come to us for help with providing the manuals they were missing in PDF format
Regards Paul
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: 26 October 2021 03:14 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Agilent/Keysigh ESG series CLIP Do NOT worry - I believe HP has issued a blanket permission on most ot their CLIPS. Chers! Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>: OK, sorry for publishing this! Please forget all my previous posts.
Files will go with me...
Milan
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:53 AM Xu Wang via groups.io <simmconn=
[email protected]> wrote:
With all the confidential markings on the schematic and such, it¡¯s
best to have the manual scanned and distributed by someone who has a
license to do so. I¡¯m sure some people in this group have the license
to distribute manuals for discontinued/obsolete HP/A/K test
equipment. Scanning a pdf for personal or organizational backup is
one thing, making it available to the public would be a different matter, for profit or not.
By the way, if we see missing line segments on the scanned
schematics, more than likely they are not there to begin with. It has
to do with the EDA tool that HP used back in the day. I¡¯ve seen
original CLIPs missing segments or sometimes entire symbols.
-Xu
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Dear Xu ? I assume you are new to this site and specifically HP ? The reason I say this is that copy right regarding HP equipment documentation was all sorted out approximately 15 years ago So much so that HP then asked the members of this present site for manuals in PDF format that they were missing ( this group was ?hosted by a different provider at the time ) Also HP direct their customers to Dave at ARTEK for documentation to support HP / Agilent equipment ????So all is OK to copy Scan and distribute ? Regards Paul ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Xu Wang via groups.io
Sent: 25 October 2021 23:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Agilent/Keysigh ESG series CLIP ? With all the confidential markings on the schematic and such, it¡¯s best to have the manual scanned and distributed by someone who has a license to do so. I¡¯m sure some people in this group have the license to distribute manuals for discontinued/obsolete HP/A/K test equipment. Scanning a pdf for personal or organizational backup is one thing, making it available to the public would be a different matter, for profit or not.
By the way, if we see missing line segments on the scanned schematics, more than likely they are not there to begin with. It has to do with the EDA tool that HP used back in the day. I¡¯ve seen original CLIPs missing segments or sometimes entire symbols.
-Xu
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Do NOT worry -
I believe HP has issued a blanket permission on most ot their CLIPS.
Chers!
Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
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OK, sorry for publishing this! Please forget all my previous posts.
Files will go with me...
Milan
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:53 AM Xu Wang via groups.io <simmconn=
[email protected]> wrote:
With all the confidential markings on the schematic and such, it¡¯s best to
have the manual scanned and distributed by someone who has a license to do
so. I¡¯m sure some people in this group have the license to distribute
manuals for discontinued/obsolete HP/A/K test equipment. Scanning a pdf for
personal or organizational backup is one thing, making it available to the
public would be a different matter, for profit or not.
By the way, if we see missing line segments on the scanned schematics,
more than likely they are not there to begin with. It has to do with the
EDA tool that HP used back in the day. I¡¯ve seen original CLIPs missing
segments or sometimes entire symbols.
-Xu
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OK, sorry for publishing this! Please forget all my previous posts. Files will go with me... Milan
With all the confidential markings on the schematic and such, it¡¯s best to have the manual scanned and distributed by someone who has a license to do so. I¡¯m sure some people in this group have the license to distribute manuals for discontinued/obsolete HP/A/K test equipment. Scanning a pdf for personal or organizational backup is one thing, making it available to the public would be a different matter, for profit or not.
By the way, if we see missing line segments on the scanned schematics, more than likely they are not there to begin with. It has to do with the EDA tool that HP used back in the day. I¡¯ve seen original CLIPs missing segments or sometimes entire symbols.
-Xu
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With all the confidential markings on the schematic and such, it¡¯s best to have the manual scanned and distributed by someone who has a license to do so. I¡¯m sure some people in this group have the license to distribute manuals for discontinued/obsolete HP/A/K test equipment. Scanning a pdf for personal or organizational backup is one thing, making it available to the public would be a different matter, for profit or not.
By the way, if we see missing line segments on the scanned schematics, more than likely they are not there to begin with. It has to do with the EDA tool that HP used back in the day. I¡¯ve seen original CLIPs missing segments or sometimes entire symbols.
-Xu
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No problem Paul, For sure I'll not take with me all my equipment, material and documents...hope will find some worth successor. Milan
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:10 AM Paul Bicknell < admin@...> wrote: Hi Bruce
No Problems I am also dyslexic hence my spelling mistakes on this site also we have UK verses USA spelling
I have put the attachments into the CLIP file with notes on how to get the full set of CLIPS
I hope this is OK with? Milan and all
Regards Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce
Sent: 25 October 2021 22:56
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Agilent/Keysigh ESG series CLIP
Correct - it means I am dyslexic and cannot type :-)
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting Paul Bicknell <admin@...>:
> Hi>
> You say? ut library? could you please explain do you mean the files on
> this site ?
> Regards Paul
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Siggi
> via
> Sent: 25 October 2021 22:06
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Agilent/Keysigh ESG
> series CLIP
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 4:07 PM Bruce <bruce@...
> <mailto:bruce@...> > wrote:
>
> So I think there was confusion on my statement - which I agree was not
> well thought out.
>
> What I think I was going toward was purchasing the document for the
> groups use - so We should ask what Enviado thinks would be a
> reasonable charge to put it in ut library and we all split the cost.
>
> Not really trying to devalue his work.
>
> I'm always heartened and delighted when I hear of a CLIP for a new
> type or class of instrument, just in case my HP-repairaholic habit
> kicks up again. I was momentarily worried when Milan declared this a
> "Last offer", but I think we'll be able to buy a copy from him for
> years to come.
>
> While I'd certainly kick in a few bucks to group buy the scan into the
> public domain, I'd be just as comfortable buying it at-need from
> Milan.
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Hi Bruce
No Problems I am also dyslexic hence my spelling mistakes on this site also we have UK verses USA spelling
I have put the attachments into the CLIP file with notes on how to get the full set of CLIPS
I hope this is OK with Milan and all
Regards Paul
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: 25 October 2021 22:56 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Agilent/Keysigh ESG series CLIP Correct - it means I am dyslexic and cannot type :-) Cheers! Bruce Quoting Paul Bicknell <admin@...>: Hi>
You say ut library could you please explain do you mean the files on
this site ?
Regards Paul
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Siggi
via groups.io
Sent: 25 October 2021 22:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Agilent/Keysigh ESG
series CLIP
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 4:07 PM Bruce <bruce@...
<mailto:bruce@...> > wrote:
So I think there was confusion on my statement - which I agree was not
well thought out.
What I think I was going toward was purchasing the document for the
groups use - so We should ask what Enviado thinks would be a
reasonable charge to put it in ut library and we all split the cost.
Not really trying to devalue his work.
I'm always heartened and delighted when I hear of a CLIP for a new
type or class of instrument, just in case my HP-repairaholic habit
kicks up again. I was momentarily worried when Milan declared this a
"Last offer", but I think we'll be able to buy a copy from him for
years to come.
While I'd certainly kick in a few bucks to group buy the scan into the
public domain, I'd be just as comfortable buying it at-need from
Milan.
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I don't want to discard the Milan work that had to be massive, but those manuals appeared?a while back on ebay fro I think a lower price. This is how I obtained them. Could be around 2/3 years ago.? Best regards, Alberto
Il giorno lun 25 ott 2021 alle ore 23:58 Bruce < bruce@...> ha scritto: Certainly didn't mean to try and deprive you of any (hard earned) income.
But also hope it (eventually) becomes publicly available - hate to see?
documentation become lost over time.
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
> Don't worry Bruce,
> I put MANY documents, i had and i found around, public available...this one
> is my one job...
> Milan
>
> <>
> Virus-free.
>
> <>
> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 10:07 PM Bruce <bruce@...> wrote:
>
>> So I think there was confusion on my statement - which I agree was not
>> well thought out.
>>
>> What I think I was going toward was purchasing the document for the
>> groups use - so We should ask what Enviado thinks would be a
>> reasonable charge to put it in ut library and we all split the cost.
>>
>> Not really trying to devalue his work.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
>>
>> > Thanks for understanding...was, I think, 2 weeks of work
>> > Milan
>> >
>> > On Mon, 25 Oct 2021, 20:02 Alexandre Souza, <
>> alexandre.tabajara@...>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I scan lots of books and manuals to make avaiable to comunity (
>> >> ). It is a LOT of work, energy cost,
>> >> eventual machine repairs...please, be fair, contribute to milan's work
>> and
>> >> make his work be worth.
>> >>
>> >> 73 se pu2sex Alexandre
>> >>
>> >> Enviado do meu Tele-Movel
>> >>
>> >> Em seg, 25 de out de 2021 14:41, Daun Yeagley <daun@...>
>> escreveu:
>> >>
>> >>> I don't think that would be fair at all to Milan.? I know from
>> >>> experience that it is a LOT of work to scan a manual, especially one as
>> >>> big as this.? His price for it is quite reasonable, especially since it
>> >>> is not easily available.? (and I'm not known for being loose with my
>> >>> money)
>> >>>
>> >>> My $.02 worth.
>> >>>
>> >>> Daun
>> >>>
>> >>> On 10/25/2021 1:27 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> >>> > should we several of us chip in and purchase a copy for the
>> "library" ?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Cheers!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Bruce
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Hi Fellows,
>> >>> >> Last offer before retirement...
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> CLIP P/N is E4400-90336
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Model covered: E4400B, E4420B, E4421B, E4422B, E4423B, E4424B,
>> E4425B,
>> >>> >> E4426B, E4430B, E4431B, E4432B, E4433B, E4434B, E4435B, E4436B
>> >>> >> I¡¯m sure that also E44xxA series are covered because i have also
>> >>> >> ESG-D3000A
>> >>> >> = E4432A and boards/modules of this guy are also covered. Keysight
>> >>> seems
>> >>> >> didn¡¯t put E44xxA series in the Find-A-Part database because is
>> older
>> >>> >> than
>> >>> >> B series.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Was a lot of work to scan over 1000pages...I'm asking 35USD or 30EUR
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> When we did a scan, not optimal scanner parameters were used...
>> scanner
>> >>> >> ignored inductors (spring like lines) but references and values are
>> >>> >> there.
>> >>> >> Once we saw this, was to late to do job again.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Zip file size is about 122MB
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I told, not perfect scan quality but totally useful, please check
>> >>> >> attachment.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Please contact me on my private email: milan.vasic@...
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> BR,
>> >>> >> Milan
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
-- Alberto Vaudagna IDRA-XAM Electronics Firmware and Software division member Team H2politO H2politO ¨C Politecnico di Torino
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Certainly didn't mean to try and deprive you of any (hard earned) income.
But also hope it (eventually) becomes publicly available - hate to see documentation become lost over time.
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
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Don't worry Bruce,
I put MANY documents, i had and i found around, public available...this one
is my one job...
Milan
<>
Virus-free.
www.avast.com
<>
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 10:07 PM Bruce <bruce@...> wrote:
So I think there was confusion on my statement - which I agree was not
well thought out.
What I think I was going toward was purchasing the document for the
groups use - so We should ask what Enviado thinks would be a
reasonable charge to put it in ut library and we all split the cost.
Not really trying to devalue his work.
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
Thanks for understanding...was, I think, 2 weeks of work
Milan
On Mon, 25 Oct 2021, 20:02 Alexandre Souza, < alexandre.tabajara@...>
wrote:
I scan lots of books and manuals to make avaiable to comunity (
www.tabalabs.com.br/esquemateca). It is a LOT of work, energy cost,
eventual machine repairs...please, be fair, contribute to milan's work and
make his work be worth.
73 se pu2sex Alexandre
Enviado do meu Tele-Movel
Em seg, 25 de out de 2021 14:41, Daun Yeagley <daun@...>
escreveu:
I don't think that would be fair at all to Milan. I know from
experience that it is a LOT of work to scan a manual, especially one as
big as this. His price for it is quite reasonable, especially since it
is not easily available. (and I'm not known for being loose with my
money)
My $.02 worth.
Daun
On 10/25/2021 1:27 PM, Bruce wrote:
should we several of us chip in and purchase a copy for the
"library" ?
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
Hi Fellows,
Last offer before retirement...
CLIP P/N is E4400-90336
Model covered: E4400B, E4420B, E4421B, E4422B, E4423B, E4424B,
E4425B,
E4426B, E4430B, E4431B, E4432B, E4433B, E4434B, E4435B, E4436B
I¡¯m sure that also E44xxA series are covered because i have also
ESG-D3000A
= E4432A and boards/modules of this guy are also covered. Keysight
seems
didn¡¯t put E44xxA series in the Find-A-Part database because is
older
than
B series.
Was a lot of work to scan over 1000pages...I'm asking 35USD or 30EUR
When we did a scan, not optimal scanner parameters were used...
scanner
ignored inductors (spring like lines) but references and values are
there.
Once we saw this, was to late to do job again.
Zip file size is about 122MB
I told, not perfect scan quality but totally useful, please check
attachment.
Please contact me on my private email: milan.vasic@...
BR,
Milan
--
Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
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Correct - it means I am dyslexic and cannot type :-) Cheers! Bruce Quoting Paul Bicknell <admin@...>:
Hi
You say ut library could you please explain do you mean the files on this site ?
Regards Paul
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Siggi via groups.io
Sent: 25 October 2021 22:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Agilent/Keysigh ESG series CLIP
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 4:07 PM Bruce <bruce@... <mailto:bruce@...> > wrote:
So I think there was confusion on my statement - which I agree was not
well thought out.
What I think I was going toward was purchasing the document for the
groups use - so We should ask what Enviado thinks would be a
reasonable charge to put it in ut library and we all split the cost.
Not really trying to devalue his work.
I'm always heartened and delighted when I hear of a CLIP for a new type or class of instrument, just in case my HP-repairaholic habit kicks up again. I was momentarily worried when Milan declared this a "Last offer", but I think we'll be able to buy a copy from him for years to come.
While I'd certainly kick in a few bucks to group buy the scan into the public domain, I'd be just as comfortable buying it at-need from Milan.
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Hi ? You say? ut library? could you please explain do you mean the files on this site ? ? Regards Paul ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Siggi via groups.io
Sent: 25 October 2021 22:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Agilent/Keysigh ESG series CLIP ? On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 4:07 PM Bruce <bruce@...> wrote: So I think there was confusion on my statement - which I agree was not?
well thought out.
What I think I was going toward was purchasing the document for the?
groups use - so We should ask what Enviado thinks would be a?
reasonable charge to put it in ut library and we all split the cost.
Not really trying to devalue his work.
I'm always heartened and delighted when I hear of a CLIP for a new type or class of instrument, just in case my HP-repairaholic habit kicks?up again. I was momentarily worried when Milan declared this a "Last offer", but I think we'll be able to buy a copy from him for years to come. While I'd certainly kick in a few bucks to group buy the scan into the public domain, I'd be just as comfortable buying it at-need from Milan.
|
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 4:07 PM Bruce < bruce@...> wrote: So I think there was confusion on my statement - which I agree was not?
well thought out.
What I think I was going toward was purchasing the document for the?
groups use - so We should ask what Enviado thinks would be a?
reasonable charge to put it in ut library and we all split the cost.
Not really trying to devalue his work.
I'm always heartened and delighted when I hear of a CLIP for a new type or class of instrument, just in case my HP-repairaholic habit kicks?up again. I was momentarily worried when Milan declared this a "Last offer", but I think we'll be able to buy a copy from him for years to come. While I'd certainly kick in a few bucks to group buy the scan into the public domain, I'd be just as comfortable buying it at-need from Milan.
|
Don't worry Bruce, I put MANY documents, i had and i found around, public available...this one is my one job... Milan
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 10:07 PM Bruce < bruce@...> wrote: So I think there was confusion on my statement - which I agree was not?
well thought out.
What I think I was going toward was purchasing the document for the?
groups use - so We should ask what Enviado thinks would be a?
reasonable charge to put it in ut library and we all split the cost.
Not really trying to devalue his work.
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
> Thanks for understanding...was, I think, 2 weeks of work
> Milan
>
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2021, 20:02 Alexandre Souza, <alexandre.tabajara@...>
> wrote:
>
>> I scan lots of books and manuals to make avaiable to comunity (
>> ). It is a LOT of work, energy cost,
>> eventual machine repairs...please, be fair, contribute to milan's work and
>> make his work be worth.
>>
>> 73 se pu2sex Alexandre
>>
>> Enviado do meu Tele-Movel
>>
>> Em seg, 25 de out de 2021 14:41, Daun Yeagley <daun@...> escreveu:
>>
>>> I don't think that would be fair at all to Milan.? I know from
>>> experience that it is a LOT of work to scan a manual, especially one as
>>> big as this.? His price for it is quite reasonable, especially since it
>>> is not easily available.? (and I'm not known for being loose with my
>>> money)
>>>
>>> My $.02 worth.
>>>
>>> Daun
>>>
>>> On 10/25/2021 1:27 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> > should we several of us chip in and purchase a copy for the "library" ?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers!
>>> >
>>> > Bruce
>>> >
>>> > Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Fellows,
>>> >> Last offer before retirement...
>>> >>
>>> >> CLIP P/N is E4400-90336
>>> >>
>>> >> Model covered: E4400B, E4420B, E4421B, E4422B, E4423B, E4424B, E4425B,
>>> >> E4426B, E4430B, E4431B, E4432B, E4433B, E4434B, E4435B, E4436B
>>> >> I¡¯m sure that also E44xxA series are covered because i have also
>>> >> ESG-D3000A
>>> >> = E4432A and boards/modules of this guy are also covered. Keysight
>>> seems
>>> >> didn¡¯t put E44xxA series in the Find-A-Part database because is older
>>> >> than
>>> >> B series.
>>> >>
>>> >> Was a lot of work to scan over 1000pages...I'm asking 35USD or 30EUR
>>> >>
>>> >> When we did a scan, not optimal scanner parameters were used... scanner
>>> >> ignored inductors (spring like lines) but references and values are
>>> >> there.
>>> >> Once we saw this, was to late to do job again.
>>> >>
>>> >> Zip file size is about 122MB
>>> >>
>>> >> I told, not perfect scan quality but totally useful, please check
>>> >> attachment.
>>> >>
>>> >> Please contact me on my private email: milan.vasic@...
>>> >>
>>> >> BR,
>>> >> Milan
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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So I think there was confusion on my statement - which I agree was not well thought out.
What I think I was going toward was purchasing the document for the groups use - so We should ask what Enviado thinks would be a reasonable charge to put it in ut library and we all split the cost.
Not really trying to devalue his work.
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
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Thanks for understanding...was, I think, 2 weeks of work
Milan
On Mon, 25 Oct 2021, 20:02 Alexandre Souza, <alexandre.tabajara@...>
wrote:
I scan lots of books and manuals to make avaiable to comunity (
www.tabalabs.com.br/esquemateca). It is a LOT of work, energy cost,
eventual machine repairs...please, be fair, contribute to milan's work and
make his work be worth.
73 se pu2sex Alexandre
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Em seg, 25 de out de 2021 14:41, Daun Yeagley <daun@...> escreveu:
I don't think that would be fair at all to Milan. I know from
experience that it is a LOT of work to scan a manual, especially one as
big as this. His price for it is quite reasonable, especially since it
is not easily available. (and I'm not known for being loose with my
money)
My $.02 worth.
Daun
On 10/25/2021 1:27 PM, Bruce wrote:
should we several of us chip in and purchase a copy for the "library" ?
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
Hi Fellows,
Last offer before retirement...
CLIP P/N is E4400-90336
Model covered: E4400B, E4420B, E4421B, E4422B, E4423B, E4424B, E4425B,
E4426B, E4430B, E4431B, E4432B, E4433B, E4434B, E4435B, E4436B
I¡¯m sure that also E44xxA series are covered because i have also
ESG-D3000A
= E4432A and boards/modules of this guy are also covered. Keysight seems
didn¡¯t put E44xxA series in the Find-A-Part database because is older
than
B series.
Was a lot of work to scan over 1000pages...I'm asking 35USD or 30EUR
When we did a scan, not optimal scanner parameters were used... scanner
ignored inductors (spring like lines) but references and values are
there.
Once we saw this, was to late to do job again.
Zip file size is about 122MB
I told, not perfect scan quality but totally useful, please check
attachment.
Please contact me on my private email: milan.vasic@...
BR,
Milan
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Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
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And on my knowledge, it's very rare document. Milan
Thanks for understanding...was, I think, 2 weeks of work? Milan
I scan lots of books and manuals to make avaiable to comunity (). It is a LOT of work, energy cost, eventual machine repairs...please, be fair, contribute to milan's work and make his work be worth.?
73 se pu2sex Alexandre Enviado do meu Tele-Movel
Em seg, 25 de out de 2021 14:41, Daun Yeagley < daun@...> escreveu: I don't think that would be fair at all to Milan.? I know from
experience that it is a LOT of work to scan a manual, especially one as
big as this.? His price for it is quite reasonable, especially since it
is not easily available.? (and I'm not known for being loose with my money)
My $.02 worth.
Daun
On 10/25/2021 1:27 PM, Bruce wrote:
> should we several of us chip in and purchase a copy for the "library" ?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Bruce
>
> Quoting Milan Vasic <vasa1958@...>:
>
>> Hi Fellows,
>> Last offer before retirement...
>>
>> CLIP P/N is E4400-90336
>>
>> Model covered: E4400B, E4420B, E4421B, E4422B, E4423B, E4424B, E4425B,
>> E4426B, E4430B, E4431B, E4432B, E4433B, E4434B, E4435B, E4436B
>> I¡¯m sure that also E44xxA series are covered because i have also
>> ESG-D3000A
>> = E4432A and boards/modules of this guy are also covered. Keysight seems
>> didn¡¯t put E44xxA series in the Find-A-Part database because is older
>> than
>> B series.
>>
>> Was a lot of work to scan over 1000pages...I'm asking 35USD or 30EUR
>>
>> When we did a scan, not optimal scanner parameters were used... scanner
>> ignored inductors (spring like lines) but references and values are
>> there.
>> Once we saw this, was to late to do job again.
>>
>> Zip file size is about 122MB
>>
>> I told, not perfect scan quality but totally useful, please check
>> attachment.
>>
>> Please contact me on my private email: milan.vasic@...
>>
>> BR,
>> Milan
>>
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