On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:

BTW, it also depends on where you are as everything is going via some proxy
(CDN) like Akamai/Imperva/Cloudfare/whatever these days and those are
falling apart.

There was couple of weeks when I was not even able to login into my Cox
Business account to pay my bill -- it's been telling me I'm trying to login
from abroad (they used/use Imperva and that routed me via Israel) and they
don't allow that.

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, Lynn C via groups.io wrote:

You were lucky to catch that very rare moment it worked. I don't need those
connectors much -- have a bunch of dead sensors that I can use to build my
own calibrator and those already have the entire driving circuitry in them
so I don't have to build it from scratch. Just tried to get some to have
them in stock, just in case. I actually don't see any other use for them
except building a calibrator so not a big loss...

I just purchased 12 pcs without difficulty using a credit card for
payment.

Lynn C. KA7FPH

On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 3:03?PM Sergey Kubushyn via groups.io <ksi=
[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, David Feldman via groups.io wrote:

They were $4.12 when I added 10 to my cart. Then, when tried to checkout
they suddenly became $9.15 and "We can't process Credit Crd payments at
this
time. Please try again later".

Newark became a buggy horror, I was not been able to purchase ANYTHING
from
them for last 2 years or so -- there was ALWAYS an issue and their site
never worked since something like couple of years ago.

Do NOT buy anything from them, don't support the incompetence.

This is about the Amphenol Tuchel female connector discussed in this

thread's history (used by HP for panel and device mounting the 8480
series
power sensors and 43x series power meters.)

This posting (9 April 2025) probably has limited utility and will at

some point become moot, but wanted pass this along in case anyone was
interested in homebrewing HP power sensor or power meter, as the ebay
listing (offering the same connector) cited previously in the thread
disappeared some time ago.

I located stock (in US distributor Newark) a version of the female panel

connector cited in the discussion thread. They appear to be a "close out"
(from time to time, Newark reprices an item in what appears to be an
end-of-stock circumstance (the notation includes "available in quantity
shown".)

This connector is female, panel mount, with solder cup pins (12 pins.)

There are other variants of the same connector type (solder pins, etc.)

The part appears to show stock of 82 pieces (in US) at price of USD 4.12

today 9 April 2025.

Amphenol-Sine has online a data catalog which includes mechanical

drawings for this specific connector:

See page 22 for PCB layout applicable to the 12 pin thru-hole version

(PNG captured from that page is attached).

I rotated the (above) drawing of the 12 pin connector by 37.5 degrees

counter-clockwise - using powerpoint - to bring the key down to the
bottom
of the connector, matching how it is used in the HP devices - and scaled
it
(pins E and K are separated by 9.0 mm) so that I could use the circles
representing the 12 pins as a position guide for corresponding holes in a
PC board layout (idea is a small PCB that adapts the connector's rear
pins
to a 2x4 2.54mm header for mating to a prototyping board.) Somewhat
brute-force but this was a last-minute add to a PCB layout that was
headed
out for fab.

I ordered and received a couple of these connectors and they appear to

mate with the typical HP sensor cable without difficulty. The panel
mounting nut (ring) - included - would require a 2-pin hand tool to
tighten.

I have a similar question as most-recent posting to this thread asked -

about whether this project got built and what the experience was!

Dave

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On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, Lynn C via groups.io wrote:

You were lucky to catch that very rare moment it worked. I don't need those
connectors much -- have a bunch of dead sensors that I can use to build my
own calibrator and those already have the entire driving circuitry in them
so I don't have to build it from scratch. Just tried to get some to have
them in stock, just in case. I actually don't see any other use for them
except building a calibrator so not a big loss...

I just purchased 12 pcs without difficulty using a credit card for payment.

Lynn C. KA7FPH

On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 3:03?PM Sergey Kubushyn via groups.io <ksi=
[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, David Feldman via groups.io wrote:

They were $4.12 when I added 10 to my cart. Then, when tried to checkout
they suddenly became $9.15 and "We can't process Credit Crd payments at
this
time. Please try again later".

Newark became a buggy horror, I was not been able to purchase ANYTHING from
them for last 2 years or so -- there was ALWAYS an issue and their site
never worked since something like couple of years ago.

Do NOT buy anything from them, don't support the incompetence.

This is about the Amphenol Tuchel female connector discussed in this

thread's history (used by HP for panel and device mounting the 8480 series
power sensors and 43x series power meters.)

This posting (9 April 2025) probably has limited utility and will at

some point become moot, but wanted pass this along in case anyone was
interested in homebrewing HP power sensor or power meter, as the ebay
listing (offering the same connector) cited previously in the thread
disappeared some time ago.

I located stock (in US distributor Newark) a version of the female panel

connector cited in the discussion thread. They appear to be a "close out"
(from time to time, Newark reprices an item in what appears to be an
end-of-stock circumstance (the notation includes "available in quantity
shown".)

This connector is female, panel mount, with solder cup pins (12 pins.)

There are other variants of the same connector type (solder pins, etc.)

The part appears to show stock of 82 pieces (in US) at price of USD 4.12

today 9 April 2025.

Amphenol-Sine has online a data catalog which includes mechanical

drawings for this specific connector:

See page 22 for PCB layout applicable to the 12 pin thru-hole version

(PNG captured from that page is attached).

I rotated the (above) drawing of the 12 pin connector by 37.5 degrees

counter-clockwise - using powerpoint - to bring the key down to the bottom
of the connector, matching how it is used in the HP devices - and scaled it
(pins E and K are separated by 9.0 mm) so that I could use the circles
representing the 12 pins as a position guide for corresponding holes in a
PC board layout (idea is a small PCB that adapts the connector's rear pins
to a 2x4 2.54mm header for mating to a prototyping board.) Somewhat
brute-force but this was a last-minute add to a PCB layout that was headed
out for fab.

I ordered and received a couple of these connectors and they appear to

mate with the typical HP sensor cable without difficulty. The panel
mounting nut (ring) - included - would require a 2-pin hand tool to tighten.

I have a similar question as most-recent posting to this thread asked -

about whether this project got built and what the experience was!

Dave

---
*
* KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. *
* Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
*

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, David Feldman via groups.io wrote:

They used to be OK until some time in the past when they got totally broken
and never recovered ever since.

They are not alone though -- e.g. Keysight (I have numerous calibration
agreements with them) was also broken several years ago and never fixed ever
since. Same with Tektronix.

Hi Sergey,

I too have had system problems with Newark online ordering in the past - they are not my favorite, but sometimes low-cost items appear that I can use (and these prices appear in octopart.com search engine, so that is how I found this item). Also, sometimes when I have ordered a low-cost item and went back to order more a few days later, the price had increased.

Before giving up, maybe try other browser on your computer? I tried with other browser and was able to reach "check out as guest" without unexpected price change.

Good luck!

Dave

---
*
* KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. *
* Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
*

Hi Sergey,

I too have had system problems with Newark online ordering in the past - they are not my favorite, but sometimes low-cost items appear that I can use (and these prices appear in octopart.com search engine, so that is how I found this item). Also, sometimes when I have ordered a low-cost item and went back to order more a few days later, the price had increased.

Before giving up, maybe try other browser on your computer? I tried with other browser and was able to reach "check out as guest" without unexpected price change.

Good luck!

Dave

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, David Feldman via groups.io wrote:

They were $4.12 when I added 10 to my cart. Then, when tried to checkout
they suddenly became $9.15 and "We can't process Credit Crd payments at this
time. Please try again later".

Newark became a buggy horror, I was not been able to purchase ANYTHING from
them for last 2 years or so -- there was ALWAYS an issue and their site
never worked since something like couple of years ago.

Do NOT buy anything from them, don't support the incompetence.

This is about the Amphenol Tuchel female connector discussed in this thread's history (used by HP for panel and device mounting the 8480 series power sensors and 43x series power meters.)

This posting (9 April 2025) probably has limited utility and will at some point become moot, but wanted pass this along in case anyone was interested in homebrewing HP power sensor or power meter, as the ebay listing (offering the same connector) cited previously in the thread disappeared some time ago.

I located stock (in US distributor Newark) a version of the female panel connector cited in the discussion thread. They appear to be a "close out" (from time to time, Newark reprices an item in what appears to be an end-of-stock circumstance (the notation includes "available in quantity shown".)

This connector is female, panel mount, with solder cup pins (12 pins.) There are other variants of the same connector type (solder pins, etc.)

The part appears to show stock of 82 pieces (in US) at price of USD 4.12 today 9 April 2025.



Amphenol-Sine has online a data catalog which includes mechanical drawings for this specific connector:



See page 22 for PCB layout applicable to the 12 pin thru-hole version (PNG captured from that page is attached).

I rotated the (above) drawing of the 12 pin connector by 37.5 degrees counter-clockwise - using powerpoint - to bring the key down to the bottom of the connector, matching how it is used in the HP devices - and scaled it (pins E and K are separated by 9.0 mm) so that I could use the circles representing the 12 pins as a position guide for corresponding holes in a PC board layout (idea is a small PCB that adapts the connector's rear pins to a 2x4 2.54mm header for mating to a prototyping board.) Somewhat brute-force but this was a last-minute add to a PCB layout that was headed out for fab.

I ordered and received a couple of these connectors and they appear to mate with the typical HP sensor cable without difficulty. The panel mounting nut (ring) - included - would require a 2-pin hand tool to tighten.

I have a similar question as most-recent posting to this thread asked - about whether this project got built and what the experience was!

Dave

---
*
* KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. *
* Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
*

I can't speak to having built the project, but... I just took the precaution of ordering a dozen of these connectors for my stash. Considering how widely they were used in HP gear, and how heavily discounted they are (AND their likely disappearance from this plane of existence), I figure I should keep some around.

??? That still leaves Newark with 70 pieces. Get 'em while you can!

--
Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin@...
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)

This is about the Amphenol Tuchel female connector discussed in this thread's history (used by HP for panel and device mounting the 8480 series power sensors and 43x series power meters.)

This posting (9 April 2025) probably has limited utility and will at some point become moot, but wanted pass this along in case anyone was interested in homebrewing HP power sensor or power meter, as the ebay listing (offering the same connector) cited previously in the thread disappeared some time ago.

I located stock (in US distributor Newark) a version of the female panel connector cited in the discussion thread. They appear to be a "close out" (from time to time, Newark reprices an item in what appears to be an end-of-stock circumstance (the notation includes "available in quantity shown".)

This connector is female, panel mount, with solder cup pins (12 pins.) There are other variants of the same connector type (solder pins, etc.)

The part appears to show stock of 82 pieces (in US) at price of USD 4.12 today 9 April 2025.



Amphenol-Sine has online a data catalog which includes mechanical drawings for this specific connector:



See page 22 for PCB layout applicable to the 12 pin thru-hole version (PNG captured from that page is attached).

I rotated the (above) drawing of the 12 pin connector by 37.5 degrees counter-clockwise - using powerpoint - to bring the key down to the bottom of the connector, matching how it is used in the HP devices - and scaled it (pins E and K are separated by 9.0 mm) so that I could use the circles representing the 12 pins as a position guide for corresponding holes in a PC board layout (idea is a small PCB that adapts the connector's rear pins to a 2x4 2.54mm header for mating to a prototyping board.) Somewhat brute-force but this was a last-minute add to a PCB layout that was headed out for fab.

I ordered and received a couple of these connectors and they appear to mate with the typical HP sensor cable without difficulty. The panel mounting nut (ring) - included - would require a 2-pin hand tool to tighten.

I have a similar question as most-recent posting to this thread asked - about whether this project got built and what the experience was!

Dave

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The 8484A used a single diode and had no temperature compensation , I think that HP tried to minimize the impact of temperature variations by using a heavier all metal case .... the 8481D uses a thermistor

OK Dave

Re the 8484 I actually have 2 of the black 2 grey and one D version a lot better than my original 430 power meter and Sensor with an N connecter on it
So just a thought how dues the 8484A do its temperature compensation as I do not think I have ever looked at the CCT diagram for the 8484 A

Paul

The 8484A was the first diode sensor that HP produced , it was a horrible piece of equipment prone to drift especially if you got one with the black case .
Eventually HP redesigned the sensor to solve the issues and the new sensor was the 8481D

Thank you Dave for those kind words of love
Paul

On 5/19/22 16:19, Paul Bicknell wrote:

Do not worry about Typos as I must be the worst speller on this sight

Of that there can be NO doubt. But we all love you anyway. ;)

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

Hi Bruce
Thank you for confirming the 8484A is a Diode front end and On re reading your previews mail again it is as clear as MUD

Do not worry about Typos as I must be the worst speller on this sight
Paul

It is a type - I meant Diode

The 8484 is a DIODE sensor - many other HP diode ensors have a D in the model number as explained B4

Cheers!
Beruce

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