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IBM server I found in my stash of junk.? Soon to the scrap yard...
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IBM server I found in my stash of junk.? Soon to the scrap yard...
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IBM server I found in my stash of junk.? Soon to the scrap yard...
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There are some generic ICs, and other reusavble parts. I saw a SMD 40MHz oscillator module and som SRAM on the boards.
IBM server I found in my stash of junk.? Soon to the scrap yard...
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Hey, whoa, no! That's no server, that's a networking peripheral for IBM mainframes, of the type that we have (and love, and run!) at LSSM. These are not easy to find. Please don't destroy that! Please reassemble it and send it to LSSM, with that hard drive intact if at all possible.
-Dave
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On 2/19/23 23:57, Nick Andrews wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 10:56 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@... <mailto:nickjandrews@...>> wrote:
IBM server I found in my stash of junk.? Soon to the scrap yard...
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I would not bin this machine. Some vintage computing head wants
it for sure.
Worst case, I can try to hit up the museum in the Szent Somecrap
Agoda in Szeged.
On 2023. 02. 20. 8:50, Michael A.
Terrell wrote:
There are some generic ICs, and other reusavble
parts. I saw a SMD 40MHz oscillator module and som SRAM on the
boards.
IBM server I found in my stash of
junk.? Soon to the scrap yard...
Attachments:
With best regards
Tam HANNA
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Hi,
I normally don't go into things like this, but it is not 'Somecrap', but Szent-Gy?rgyi Albert. He was a Nobel prize winner Hungarian biochemist for such things as isolating vitamin C while working at Szeged University (Hungary).
The building complex where the Computer museum is called the
Szent-Gy?rgyi Albert Agora. So please, a bit more respect.
Otherwise I agree, do not junk that device, judging by the responses it seems to be a quite interesting part of computing history.
Thank you.
Szabolcs
Tam Hanna < tamhan@...> ezt ¨ªrta (id?pont: 2023. febr. 20., H, 14:21):
I would not bin this machine. Some vintage computing head wants
it for sure.
Worst case, I can try to hit up the museum in the Szent Somecrap
Agoda in Szeged.
On 2023. 02. 20. 8:50, Michael A.
Terrell wrote:
There are some generic ICs, and other reusavble
parts. I saw a SMD 40MHz oscillator module and som SRAM on the
boards.
IBM server I found in my stash of
junk.? Soon to the scrap yard...
Attachments:
With best regards
Tam HANNA
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Haha,? I thought you might want it,? which is why I took pics and posted!? I think years ago I actually plugged it in to see what it would do and it did power up and make some noise,? lights,? etc.? ?So it wasn't dead.? We can probably figure out where the cards should go back in.?
I had two of them at one time.? ?They came at the bottom of two 7' tall racks I bought from NMSU surplus property warehouse. But alas,? it is long gone.? ?It was before I realized there was a demand for such things.?
It's bulky and I'll get the weight later on.?
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 7:21 AM Dave McGuire < mcguire@...> wrote:
? ?Hey, whoa, no!? That's no server, that's a networking peripheral for
IBM mainframes, of the type that we have (and love, and run!) at LSSM.
These are not easy to find.? Please don't destroy that!? Please
reassemble it and send it to LSSM, with that hard drive intact if at all
possible.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-Dave
On 2/19/23 23:57, Nick Andrews wrote:
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> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 10:56 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...
> <mailto:nickjandrews@...>> wrote:
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>? ? ?IBM server I found in my stash of junk.? Soon to the scrap yard...
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New Kensington, PA
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Hi, sorry for causing offence. Hungarian names are very long...I really like the museum and promote it a lot on Insta... Tam On February 20, 2023 2:39:38 PM GMT+01:00, Szabolcs Szigeti <szigiszabolcs@...> wrote:
Hi,
I normally don't go into things like this, but it is not 'Somecrap', but Szent-Gy?rgyi Albert. He was a Nobel prize winner Hungarian biochemist for such things as isolating vitamin C while working at Szeged University (Hungary).
The building complex where the Computer museum is called the
Szent-Gy?rgyi Albert Agora. So please, a bit more respect.
Otherwise I agree, do not junk that device, judging by the responses it seems to be a quite interesting part of computing history.
Thank you.
Szabolcs
Tam Hanna < tamhan@...> ezt ¨ªrta (id?pont: 2023. febr. 20., H, 14:21):
I would not bin this machine. Some vintage computing head wants
it for sure.
Worst case, I can try to hit up the museum in the Szent Somecrap
Agoda in Szeged.
On 2023. 02. 20. 8:50, Michael A.
Terrell wrote:
There are some generic ICs, and other reusavble
parts. I saw a SMD 40MHz oscillator module and som SRAM on the
boards.
IBM server I found in my stash of
junk.? Soon to the scrap yard...
Attachments:
With best regards
Tam HANNA
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if LSSM is closer, please send to them by all means. On February 20, 2023 2:21:24 PM GMT+01:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:
Hey, whoa, no! That's no server, that's a networking peripheral for
IBM mainframes, of the type that we have (and love, and run!) at LSSM.
These are not easy to find. Please don't destroy that! Please
reassemble it and send it to LSSM, with that hard drive intact if at all
possible.
-Dave
On 2/19/23 23:57, Nick Andrews wrote:
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 10:56 PM Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@...
<mailto:nickjandrews@...>> wrote:
IBM server I found in my stash of junk.? Soon to the scrap yard...
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On 2/20/23 08:39, Szabolcs Szigeti wrote: Otherwise I agree, do not junk that device, judging by the responses it seems to be a quite interesting part of computing history. And a *useful* network controller! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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Does this translate between various network protocols? It looks like it has FDDI and Ethernet at minimum - I would think on the mainframe side it would have something else too (but no idea what)
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 1:18 PM Dave McGuire < mcguire@...> wrote: On 2/20/23 08:39, Szabolcs Szigeti wrote:
> Otherwise I agree, do not junk that device, judging by the responses it
> seems to be a quite interesting part of computing history.
? ?And a *useful* network controller!
? ? ? ? ? ? ?-Dave
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The fiber interface that you saw isn't FDDI, it's ESCON. It doesn't perform network protocol translation; it's (more or less) a network interface for an IBM ES/9000 (or later) mainframe. The ESCON port is the upstream connection to the I/O subsystem of the mainframe, or multiple mainframes.
It implements one or more network interfaces (token ring, Ethernet, SDLC, and I think FDDI as well) and does protocol stack offloading for the mainframe for both SNA and IP.
In the context of IP, a part of the IP stack runs in this unit, offloading protocol processing responsibility from the mainframe processor(s).
Upstream, these connect to mainframes via ESCON (as this unit is configured) or parallel channel ("bus & tag") interfaces.
-Dave
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On 2/20/23 17:33, Andrew Hakman wrote: Does this translate between various network protocols? It looks like it has FDDI and Ethernet at minimum - I would think on the mainframe side it would have something else too (but no idea what)
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 1:18 PM Dave McGuire <mcguire@... <mailto:mcguire@...>> wrote:
On 2/20/23 08:39, Szabolcs Szigeti wrote:
> Otherwise I agree, do not junk that device, judging by the
responses it
> seems to be a quite interesting part of computing history.
? ?And a *useful* network controller!
? ? ? ? ? ? ?-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
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Thanks Nick. Don't worry about where the cards go; we have all of that documentation. I'm just talking about making it secure for shipment and ensuring that all the parts are present. We'll go through everything at the museum.
Thank you for saving this. I see Matt has contacted you offline; we'll make arrangements for shipping reimbursement etc.
And if anything else along these lines shows up, please let us know!
Thanks,
-Dave
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On 2/20/23 11:13, Nick Andrews wrote: Haha,? I thought you might want it,? which is why I took pics and posted!? I think years ago I actually plugged it in to see what it would do and it did power up and make some noise,? lights,? etc.? ?So it wasn't dead.? We can probably figure out where the cards should go back in.
I had two of them at one time.? ?They came at the bottom of two 7' tall racks I bought from NMSU surplus property warehouse. But alas,? it is long gone.? ?It was before I realized there was a demand for such things.
It's bulky and I'll get the weight later on.
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 7:21 AM Dave McGuire <mcguire@... <mailto:mcguire@...>> wrote:
? ?Hey, whoa, no!? That's no server, that's a networking peripheral
for
IBM mainframes, of the type that we have (and love, and run!) at LSSM.
These are not easy to find.? Please don't destroy that!? Please
reassemble it and send it to LSSM, with that hard drive intact if at
all
possible.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-Dave
On 2/19/23 23:57, Nick Andrews wrote:
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> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 10:56 PM Nick Andrews
<nickjandrews@... <mailto:nickjandrews@...>
> <mailto:nickjandrews@... <mailto:nickjandrews@...>>>
wrote:
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yard...
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Is there a better place for me to list a few other items I'm ready to let go of?? ?Some HP, some not,? like a Tek type N sampling plug-in, Narda frequency meter,? etc.? I have a bad habit of grabbing things that are cheap and look interesting and sometimes their friends follow me home too!
I'm in San Antonio,? TX, by the way. But I have VA projects in a lot of places and travel sometimes.? ?Small stuff could travel with me.?
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 5:04 PM Dave McGuire < mcguire@...> wrote:
? ?The fiber interface that you saw isn't FDDI, it's ESCON.? It doesn't
perform network protocol translation; it's (more or less) a network
interface for an IBM ES/9000 (or later) mainframe.? The ESCON port is
the upstream connection to the I/O subsystem of the mainframe, or
multiple mainframes.
? ?It implements one or more network interfaces (token ring, Ethernet,
SDLC, and I think FDDI as well) and does protocol stack offloading for
the mainframe for both SNA and IP.
? ?In the context of IP, a part of the IP stack runs in this unit,
offloading protocol processing responsibility from the mainframe
processor(s).
? ?Upstream, these connect to mainframes via ESCON (as this unit is
configured) or parallel channel ("bus & tag") interfaces.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave
On 2/20/23 17:33, Andrew Hakman wrote:
> Does this translate between various network protocols? It looks like it
> has FDDI and Ethernet at minimum - I would think on the mainframe side
> it would have something else too (but no idea what)
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 1:18 PM Dave McGuire <mcguire@...
> <mailto:mcguire@...>> wrote:
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>? ? ?On 2/20/23 08:39, Szabolcs Szigeti wrote:
>? ? ? > Otherwise I agree, do not junk that device, judging by the
>? ? ?responses it
>? ? ? > seems to be a quite interesting part of computing history.
>
>? ? ? ? ?And a *useful* network controller!
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>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-Dave
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>? ? ?Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>? ? ?New Kensington, PA
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Is there a better place for me to list a few other items I'm ready to let go of?? ?Some HP, some not,? like a Tek type N sampling plug-in, Narda frequency meter,? etc.? I have a bad habit of grabbing things that are cheap and look interesting and sometimes their friends follow me home too!
I'm in San Antonio,? TX, by the way. But I have VA projects in a lot of places and travel sometimes.? ?Small stuff could travel with me.?
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 5:04 PM Dave McGuire < mcguire@...> wrote:
? ?The fiber interface that you saw isn't FDDI, it's ESCON.? It doesn't
perform network protocol translation; it's (more or less) a network
interface for an IBM ES/9000 (or later) mainframe.? The ESCON port is
the upstream connection to the I/O subsystem of the mainframe, or
multiple mainframes.
? ?It implements one or more network interfaces (token ring, Ethernet,
SDLC, and I think FDDI as well) and does protocol stack offloading for
the mainframe for both SNA and IP.
? ?In the context of IP, a part of the IP stack runs in this unit,
offloading protocol processing responsibility from the mainframe
processor(s).
? ?Upstream, these connect to mainframes via ESCON (as this unit is
configured) or parallel channel ("bus & tag") interfaces.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave
On 2/20/23 17:33, Andrew Hakman wrote:
> Does this translate between various network protocols? It looks like it
> has FDDI and Ethernet at minimum - I would think on the mainframe side
> it would have something else too (but no idea what)
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 1:18 PM Dave McGuire <mcguire@...
> <mailto:mcguire@...>> wrote:
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>? ? ?On 2/20/23 08:39, Szabolcs Szigeti wrote:
>? ? ? > Otherwise I agree, do not junk that device, judging by the
>? ? ?responses it
>? ? ? > seems to be a quite interesting part of computing history.
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>? ? ? ? ?And a *useful* network controller!
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-Dave
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>? ? ?--
>? ? ?Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>? ? ?New Kensington, PA
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