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Good day everyone,
I recently bought an HP8903B audio analyzer that has output terminals (X-Plot, Y-Plot, Pen Lift and GND) to connect an X-Y plotter that I don't have available.
I would like to ask you if it is possible to get the Plot output on the HP-IB port.
If it were possible, I thought of connecting the Prologic converter to the HP-IB port in order to have the HP-IB data converted to USB and connect a PC with an HP plotter emulator
Alternatively, is there an X-Y to USB plotter output converter?
Thanks in advance for the help.
-- Cheers
??? Attilio
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If the outputs are analog, then an arduino doing the A/D
conversion (pen lift active means ignore inputs).? Output those
values on a serial data line to an off the shelf serial to USB
converter and you're in.? If you want another option, then almost
any of the ST-micro Nucleo 32 board setups would do the same thing
(check specs, please) and have a virtual com port on the
programming/USB interface.?
There's likely arduino sketches that may just do that already.
You'd have to handle the software (maybe) at the PC end.
Harvey
On 2/13/2022 10:32 AM, Attilio wrote:
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Good day everyone,
I recently bought an HP8903B audio analyzer that has output
terminals (X-Plot, Y-Plot, Pen Lift and GND) to connect an
X-Y plotter that I don't have available.
I would like to ask you if it
is possible to get the Plot output on the HP-IB port.
If it were possible, I
thought of connecting the Prologic converter to the HP-IB
port in order to have the HP-IB data converted to USB and
connect a PC with an HP plotter emulator
Alternatively,
is there an X-Y to USB plotter output converter?
Thanks in advance for the
help.
-- Cheers
??? Attilio
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Thank you so much Harvey,
unfortunately I don't know the Arduino, I only have experience with the PIC (eg 16F628A).
But in my research on the net I fortunately found a utility for PC which, through the Prologic interface (HP-IB to USB converter), allows to transmit the commands for the execution of the tests to the HP8903B and to receive the results with also the plotting of the graph.
I only verified that the utility works on a PC and that it dialogues with the Prologic converter, as the HP8903B audio analyzer has not yet arrived.
As soon as it arrives I try to check if everything works and if I can view the data and the graph from the HP8903B on the PC.
-- Cheers
??? Attilio
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PIC would do it if the PIC had A/D converters.?
Looks as if the PC utility is the way to go.? No sense
duplicating work unless you need something different.
Good luck with how it works.
Harvey
On 2/13/2022 11:37 AM, Attilio wrote:
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Thank you so much Harvey,
unfortunately I don't know
the Arduino, I only have experience with the PIC (eg
16F628A).
But in my research on the net I
fortunately found a utility for PC which, through the
Prologic interface (HP-IB to USB converter), allows to
transmit the commands for the execution of the tests to the
HP8903B and to receive the results with also the plotting of
the graph.
I only verified that the
utility works on a PC and that it dialogues with the
Prologic converter, as the HP8903B audio analyzer has not
yet arrived.
As soon as it arrives I try
to check if everything works and if I can view the data and
the graph from the HP8903B on the PC.
-- Cheers
??? Attilio
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Atilio, You may also want to look into Pete Millett's software -?. No affiliation, but wanted to save you the time to search.?
You'll also need a HPIB/GPIB to USB interface (HP 82357B is what I used, and they can be found pretty cheap - IMHO, this one's not a question for your pursuit), and a couple of Agilent packages. It took me a while (feel free to ask questions, here?or offline, if you need help), but I got it to work very well, and the expense has not been very much, other than the 8903B (though I lucked out with that one too).
With the above, you can plot various measurements of the DUT on your PC. Check the web?page above, you'll see what I mean.?
I had this running for a good while a few years?ago. I have since switched to a different setup altogether,?but it's been pretty neat for the time I used it.?
Hope this helps.? Radu.?
On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 8:58 AM Harvey White < madyn@...> wrote:
PIC would do it if the PIC had A/D converters.?
Looks as if the PC utility is the way to go.? No sense
duplicating work unless you need something different.
Good luck with how it works.
Harvey
On 2/13/2022 11:37 AM, Attilio wrote:
Thank you so much Harvey,
unfortunately I don't know
the Arduino, I only have experience with the PIC (eg
16F628A).
But in my research on the net I
fortunately found a utility for PC which, through the
Prologic interface (HP-IB to USB converter), allows to
transmit the commands for the execution of the tests to the
HP8903B and to receive the results with also the plotting of
the graph.
I only verified that the
utility works on a PC and that it dialogues with the
Prologic converter, as the HP8903B audio analyzer has not
yet arrived.
As soon as it arrives I try
to check if everything works and if I can view the data and
the graph from the HP8903B on the PC.
-- Cheers
??? Attilio
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Thank you so much Radu,
I have already downloaded Agilent VEE version 9 and version 15 libraries and installed them on my PC.
I also downloaded Pete Millett's four programs for HP8903B.
I don't know if I should also take the HP82357B interface or if I can use the Prologic interface that I already use with the Panasonic oscilloscope.
Can I try to connect it ?
-- Cheers
? ? Attilio
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Attilio,
I use Pete Millett's software.? It is no where near an Audio Precision GUI but I credit Pete and am thankful for his effort in providing this for all 8903B users.
Above are notes I posted on my setup using Pete's software on the diyaudio web site.
Mike
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Thanks Mike,
I will buy the HP82357B interface, then update you on the results.
-- Cheers
? ? Attilio
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Hello everyone,
I finally got the HP8903B and it works perfectly.
I tried to connect the Prologix interface to the HP-IB connector of the HP8903B and to the PC where I installed some programs for dialogue on the HP-IB bus.
One of the programs works perfectly, but those of Pete Millett that interested me the most, when I press Start the following error window comes out:
Attempted action not supported
Error number: 313
In transaction number 1
Object title: Audio Analyzer (@ 714)
Object type: Direct I / O
I don't know how to correct this error.
Can you help me, thanks.
-- Cheers
??? Attilio
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From memory, all of Pete's software is VEE based so it expects a VISA supported GPIB adapter.
The Prologix is a great little adapter but isn't VISA supported, I think you'll need to get a HPAK or NI one to get it to work.
TonyG?
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From: Tony
Goodhew
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 17:30:00 PST
From memory, all of Pete's software is VEE based so it expects a
VISA supported GPIB adapter.
The Prologix is a great little adapter but isn't VISA supported, I
think you'll need to get a HPAK or NI one to get it to work.
TonyG?
Depending on your OS etc, there are VISA implementations that
will support the Prologix (and clones with a little work.)
But, there are differences between (for example) NI's VISA, and
HPAK's VISA.? That, and it is impractical to bad, to have more
than one version of the VISA architecture installed on any one
PC.?? As we found to our cost and frustration at work.
It is a shame that the respective installers do not check for a
pre-existing install of others, or even an earlier version from
the same stable.
VISA is a good system, but it is bloated and can become very
unstable under mismatch situations, even to the extent of taking
down the OS!
73.
Dave G8KBV
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Thanks Tony, thanks Dave,
to avoid troubles too much I bought an HP82357B interface GPIB <-> USB with the hope that it will work with keysight software (VEE, I / O, VISA, etc.). I am waiting to receive it.
-- Cheers
? ? Attilio
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Thanks Dave, for the info - I'll have to take a look into VISA for the ProLogix - I moved from a Prologix to an 82357 and ended up with an NI GPIB-ENET/1000 - It'd be good to have the possibility of using the Prologix as well.
Attilio - When you get the Keysight IO Libraries Suite installed you may still need to configure the instrument to use address 14 or modify the settings used by Pete's software - In VEE there is a thing called Instrument Manager and you can do that - Pete has information on his website about it.
Good luck with it.
TonyG
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Hi Tony
Please contact me off group
Hardy
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Thanks Dave, for the info - I'll have to take a look into
VISA for the ProLogix - I moved from a Prologix to an 82357 and ended up with
an NI GPIB-ENET/1000 - It'd be good to have the possibility of using the
Prologix as well.
Attilio - When you get the Keysight IO Libraries Suite installed you may still
need to configure the instrument to use address 14 or modify the settings used
by Pete's software - In VEE there is a thing called Instrument Manager and you
can do that - Pete has information on his website about it.
Good luck with it.
TonyG
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Hello everybody,
I got the HP82357B interface and I can finally use Pete Millett's programs.
I entered address 7 for the interface and 28 for the HP8903B.
It works well, I just wanted to understand if it is possible to delete the track or if every time you have to exit and re-enter the program.
-- Cheers
??? Attilio
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OK, found: pressing the right mouse button a menu appears with also the item to delete the track.
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Attilio