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8516A cable question
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Lothar baier
开云体育Agilent initially used the DB25 for the 8410 interface ,? when the 8516 was conceived ( as a response to wiltron being the first one to introduced a 40GHz VNA ) they repurposed the interface to control the doubler and filter module , this change encompassed a different CPU board 08340-60299 and upgraded FW , for synthesizers with 2812A upwards this was incorporated while for older sources a upgrade was offered by HP ! The control interface was maintained on the 8360 series even though the 8360 series unlike the older 8340/41 models offered coverage to 50GHz mostly because the 8516 can not operate with a 40GHz source , agilent of course could have offered a HW upgrade to either bypass or remove the doubler module and change the input connector for the source input but at? the time the 8360 series came out they also had the 8517 testset which covered to 50GHz so I guess agilent saw a opportunity to sell new testsets ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 3:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8516A cable question ? The only? fix is to have the correct output from the 8340-41! The older source label says 8410B-C Interface and they mean it. We need the Auxiliary Interface like the 83621A dedicated sweeper? for the 8510C which might be documented in the service manual.? |
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Can he pull the 40GHz section (filter, doubler, relay, etc) out of the 8516, and use DC levels to control it while driving it with the 8340 That way he could eliminate the doubler/filter as the root of the problem.
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Cheers! Bruce Quoting Lothar baier <Lothar@...>: Agilent initially used the DB25 for the 8410 interface , when the 8516 was conceived ( as a response to wiltron being the first one to introduced a 40GHz VNA ) they repurposed the interface to control the doubler and filter module , this change encompassed a different CPU board 08340-60299 and upgraded FW , for synthesizers with 2812A upwards this was incorporated while for older sources a upgrade was offered by HP ! |
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Lothar baier
Ok before jumping to conclusions and re-engineering how about figuring out what’s really wrong with it ? If you talk about removing and rewiring you might as well get a control board from a 8517A and turn the 8516 into a 17 then all you need is a 40GHz 8360 ?
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 17:47, Bruce via groups.io <bruce@...> wrote: |
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Well I was thinking of separating the operational status of the doubler filter from the logic / control / RF drive component. It is difficult to diagnose one without knowing whether the other is functional. An excellent opportunity to "chase your tail."
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Cheers! Bruce Quoting Lothar baier <Lothar@...>: Ok before jumping to conclusions and re-engineering how about figuring out what’s really wrong with it ? If you talk about removing and rewiring you might as well get a control board from a 8517A and turn the 8516 into a 17 then all you need is a 40GHz 8360 ?On Mar 18, 2022, at 17:47, Bruce via groups.io <bruce@...> wrote: |
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Lothar baier
开云体育Yes that should work fine ! ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 6:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8516A cable question ? 07 APR 92 shows up on the right display of my 8340B, SN is 3050A. Is this new enough? |
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Lothar baier
开云体育First just because the source works with a 8515 doesn’t mean its ok as the 8516 requires different source parameters as the 15 ,? generally no if found or phaselock error comes about if the source power is too low to generate a meaningful IF signal from the reference samplers , for the 8516 the power into the testset must be between 0 and 10dBm for the 45MHz to 20GHz range and 10dBm for the 20-40GHz range , you mentioned that you have a flashing light on your source when the error occurs so more than likely your source goes unleveled when you use the doubler ! ? ? ? This is the link to the service manual ,? check the unratioed and sampler test procedure to make sure your samplers are ok ! ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Willy via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 6:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8516A cable question ? 07 APR 92 shows up on the right display of my 8340B, SN is 3050A. Is this new enough? |
Willy