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Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam of a manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's used in. It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also be useful too.
Thanks, Don Black.
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Don
Let me know if no one comes to your rescue , I think I have the manual
for the 54001A over at the storage unit, not a trivial task to get to
right now as it is -10C and a 1/2 meter of snow to wade through.
We do have the full manual set for the 54100D including the rare
Extended Service Manual with a full set of schematics. There is no
"useful" info in there though on the 54001A probe, Contact me off list
for more details
HNY
ArtekManuals.com
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On 1/3/2013 10:43 AM, donblack1au wrote:
Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam of a
manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's used
in. It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also
be useful too.
Thanks, Don Black.
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Dave Henderson
Manuals@...
www.Artekmanuals.com
PO Box 175
Welch,MN 55089
651-269-4265
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Don
Looks like there is a copy of the 54001A manual on KO4BB.com
I could get a slightly better copy but not worth wading through the snow
for to be sure
Cheers
Dave
ArtekManuals
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On 1/3/2013 10:43 AM, donblack1au wrote:
Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam of a
manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's used
in. It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also
be useful too.
Thanks, Don Black.
--
Dave Henderson
Manuals@...
www.Artekmanuals.com
PO Box 175
Welch,MN 55089
651-269-4265
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I got mine from the Agilent website ---> <; 54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng> here <; 54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng> --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "donblack1au" wrote:
Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam of a
manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's used in. It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also be useful too. Thanks, Don Black.
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Thanks Gary. Do you know if the output from the probe pods to the main
frame is 50 ohms? If the 54002A pods are a direct feed through that
would verify it. I don't have the scope but am awaiting arrival of a
54001A probe that I want for general use after I make a power supply.
The manuals are a bit sparse on details but I think the output is 50 ohms.
Don Black.
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On 04-Jan-13 5:36 AM, Gary wrote:
I got mine from the Agilent website --->
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54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
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here
;
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
<>>
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<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>, "donblack1au" wrote:
Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam of a
manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's used in.
It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also be
useful too.
Thanks, Don Black.
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From the 5371A manual, which uses the same 54002A input pods:
The HP 54002A 50 ohm input pod is electrically a dead short. The input
signal terminates into 50 ohm resistance (A2R42)
ONLY after the HP 5371 A is powered on. After passing through the input
pod, the signal routes through coaxial cable
W24, joins cable W19 at the forward chassis bulkhead, and continues on
through cable W19 to connector A2J1. The
input signal then travels in one of two directions. If the 1:1 (0 dB)
attenuation setting is selected, relays A2K1 and K2
short CHANNEL A attenuator A2Ul out of the circuit. In the 2.5:1 (8 dB)
attenuation setting, A2U1 is placed in
series with the CHANNEL A input signal. This setting allows the
application of an input signal with a peak voltage of
2.5 times the normal operating range. Immediately following relay A2K2,
the input signal is sampled and routed to
the Al Timebase Control Board's Overload Sense circuit via signal path
OVER V A. This circuit protects the A2
Input Amplifier by opening relays A2K1 and K2 when the input voltage
exceeds the nominal value of ¡À2.7 Volts. See
Path Selection (Relay Control) circuit description for more details.
Everything after the blue font is probably different in the scope but
the pods are the same.
Hope this helps!
Steve K.
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On 1/3/2013 6:33 PM, Don Black wrote:
Thanks Gary. Do you know if the output from the probe pods to the main
frame is 50 ohms? If the 54002A pods are a direct feed through that
would verify it. I don't have the scope but am awaiting arrival of a
54001A probe that I want for general use after I make a power supply.
The manuals are a bit sparse on details but I think the output is 50 ohms.
Don Black.
On 04-Jan-13 5:36 AM, Gary wrote:
I got mine from the Agilent website --->
;
<>>
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
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here
; <>>
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
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--- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>
, "donblack1au" wrote:
Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam of a
manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's used in.
It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also be
useful too.
Thanks, Don Black.
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I see the font color change didn't make it - everything after "the signal routes through coaxial cable W24..." should be blue. SK On 1/3/2013 7:02 PM, Steve Krull wrote:
From the 5371A manual, which uses the same 54002A input pods:
The HP 54002A 50 ohm input pod is electrically a dead short. The input
signal terminates into 50 ohm resistance (A2R42)
ONLY after the HP 5371 A is powered on. After passing through the input
pod, the signal routes through coaxial cable
W24, joins cable W19 at the forward chassis bulkhead, and continues on
through cable W19 to connector A2J1. The
input signal then travels in one of two directions. If the 1:1 (0 dB)
attenuation setting is selected, relays A2K1 and K2
short CHANNEL A attenuator A2Ul out of the circuit. In the 2.5:1 (8 dB)
attenuation setting, A2U1 is placed in
series with the CHANNEL A input signal. This setting allows the
application of an input signal with a peak voltage of
2.5 times the normal operating range. Immediately following relay A2K2,
the input signal is sampled and routed to
the Al Timebase Control Board's Overload Sense circuit via signal path
OVER V A. This circuit protects the A2
Input Amplifier by opening relays A2K1 and K2 when the input voltage
exceeds the nominal value of ¡À2.7 Volts. See
Path Selection (Relay Control) circuit description for more details.
Everything after the blue font is probably different in the scope but
the pods are the same.
Hope this helps!
Steve K.
On 1/3/2013 6:33 PM, Don Black wrote:
Thanks Gary. Do you know if the output from the probe pods to the main
frame is 50 ohms? If the 54002A pods are a direct feed through that
would verify it. I don't have the scope but am awaiting arrival of a
54001A probe that I want for general use after I make a power supply.
The manuals are a bit sparse on details but I think the output is 50
ohms.
Don Black.
On 04-Jan-13 5:36 AM, Gary wrote:
I got mine from the Agilent website --->
;
<>>
>>
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
>>
here
;
<>>
>>
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
>>
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>
, "donblack1au" wrote:
Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam
of a
manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's
used in.
It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also be
useful too.
Thanks, Don Black.
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Thanks for the extra info, hopefully it will all work out. Don. On 04-Jan-13 12:06 PM, Steve Krull wrote:
I see the font color change didn't make it - everything after "the
signal routes through coaxial cable W24..." should be blue.
SK
On 1/3/2013 7:02 PM, Steve Krull wrote:
From the 5371A manual, which uses the same 54002A input pods:
The HP 54002A 50 ohm input pod is electrically a dead short. The input
signal terminates into 50 ohm resistance (A2R42)
ONLY after the HP 5371 A is powered on. After passing through the input
pod, the signal routes through coaxial cable
W24, joins cable W19 at the forward chassis bulkhead, and continues on
through cable W19 to connector A2J1. The
input signal then travels in one of two directions. If the 1:1 (0 dB)
attenuation setting is selected, relays A2K1 and K2
short CHANNEL A attenuator A2Ul out of the circuit. In the 2.5:1 (8 dB)
attenuation setting, A2U1 is placed in
series with the CHANNEL A input signal. This setting allows the
application of an input signal with a peak voltage of
2.5 times the normal operating range. Immediately following relay A2K2,
the input signal is sampled and routed to
the Al Timebase Control Board's Overload Sense circuit via signal path
OVER V A. This circuit protects the A2
Input Amplifier by opening relays A2K1 and K2 when the input voltage
exceeds the nominal value of ¡À2.7 Volts. See
Path Selection (Relay Control) circuit description for more details.
Everything after the blue font is probably different in the scope but
the pods are the same.
Hope this helps!
Steve K.
On 1/3/2013 6:33 PM, Don Black wrote:
Thanks Gary. Do you know if the output from the probe pods to the main
frame is 50 ohms? If the 54002A pods are a direct feed through that
would verify it. I don't have the scope but am awaiting arrival of a
54001A probe that I want for general use after I make a power supply.
The manuals are a bit sparse on details but I think the output is 50
ohms.
Don Black.
On 04-Jan-13 5:36 AM, Gary wrote:
I got mine from the Agilent website --->
;
<>>
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54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
<>>>
here
;
<>>
<>>>
<>>>
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
<>>>
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>
, "donblack1au" wrote:
Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam
of a
manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's
used in.
It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also be
useful too.
Thanks, Don Black.
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Hey Don,
Mine came with four 54002 50 ohm pods. Expensive little things when purchased new ($130)! I took one apart and they have one little 50 Ohm resister to ground; the rest is plastic and the connectors.
Gary
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--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Don Black wrote:
Thanks Gary. Do you know if the output from the probe pods to the main
frame is 50 ohms? If the 54002A pods are a direct feed through that
would verify it. I don't have the scope but am awaiting arrival of a
54001A probe that I want for general use after I make a power supply.
The manuals are a bit sparse on details but I think the output is 50 ohms.
Don Black.
On 04-Jan-13 5:36 AM, Gary wrote:
I got mine from the Agilent website --->
;
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
here
;
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
, "donblack1au" wrote:
Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam of a
manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's used in.
It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also be
useful too.
Thanks, Don Black.
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Thanks gary. So if there's a 50 ohm terminating resistor across the
input, it seems the mainframe must be high impedance bridging. I may
have to build a buffer to get a 50 ohm feed from the probe. I suspect
there will be ICs available that should do this without building it from
discrete components. Should be fun to try anyway.
I appreciate the information, it all helps. It does seem strange they
would use a mismatched coax inside the scope to take the signal at 1 GHz.
Don Black.
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On 04-Jan-13 2:27 PM, Gary wrote:
Hey Don,
Mine came with four 54002 50 ohm pods. Expensive little things when
purchased new ($130)! I took one apart and they have one little 50 Ohm
resister to ground; the rest is plastic and the connectors.
Gary
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>, Don Black wrote:
Thanks Gary. Do you know if the output from the probe pods to the main
frame is 50 ohms? If the 54002A pods are a direct feed through that
would verify it. I don't have the scope but am awaiting arrival of a
54001A probe that I want for general use after I make a power supply.
The manuals are a bit sparse on details but I think the output is 50
ohms.
Don Black.
On 04-Jan-13 5:36 AM, Gary wrote:
I got mine from the Agilent website --->
;
<>>
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
here
;
<>>
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>
, "donblack1au" wrote:
Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam
of a
manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's
used in.
It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also be
useful too.
Thanks, Don Black.
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Keep in mind there is a "Probe" menu setting that you can define the pod attenuation setting. I use an external powered FET probe made by Tektronix and it works great plugged right into the 50 ohm pod.
Gary
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--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Don Black wrote:
Thanks gary. So if there's a 50 ohm terminating resistor across the
input, it seems the mainframe must be high impedance bridging. I may
have to build a buffer to get a 50 ohm feed from the probe. I suspect
there will be ICs available that should do this without building it from
discrete components. Should be fun to try anyway.
I appreciate the information, it all helps. It does seem strange they
would use a mismatched coax inside the scope to take the signal at 1 GHz.
Don Black.
On 04-Jan-13 2:27 PM, Gary wrote:
Hey Don,
Mine came with four 54002 50 ohm pods. Expensive little things when
purchased new ($130)! I took one apart and they have one little 50 Ohm
resister to ground; the rest is plastic and the connectors.
Gary
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
, Don Black wrote:
Thanks Gary. Do you know if the output from the probe pods to the main
frame is 50 ohms? If the 54002A pods are a direct feed through that
would verify it. I don't have the scope but am awaiting arrival of a
54001A probe that I want for general use after I make a power supply.
The manuals are a bit sparse on details but I think the output is 50
ohms.
Don Black.
On 04-Jan-13 5:36 AM, Gary wrote:
I got mine from the Agilent website --->
;
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
here
;
54100D:epsg:pro&pageMode=OV&pid=54100D:epsg:pro&cc=US&lc=eng
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
, "donblack1au" wrote:
Hello, does anyone have or know of a site where I can get a scam
of a
manual for the HP 54001A 1GHz probe or the HP54100D scope it's
used in.
It's particularly the probe info I need but the scope would also be
useful too.
Thanks, Don Black.
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