#90709

hi,

Am looking for all the software related to the HP 70K MMS system, its modules, calibration & analysis software and related ROM's.

Although it might be fanciful, the goal would be to have the HP 70K MMS system running on a modern laptop using a USB-GPIB adapter, and to also be able to upgrade any ROM's etc, for all of the MMS modules.

This does not preclude anyone who is able to run it on the old HP computer systems, their help to modernize the HP 70K software suite would be most welcome.

So wondering if we can collectively assemble a complete archive of any HP 70K ?software, firmware, etc.?

To proceed, it would need a detailed examination of the original Rocky Mountain Basic / HP Instrument Basic / HP Basic files needs to occur.
Then to port (or re-write) that software to some more modern computer we can all use, perhaps Python, C, or VB or something else.
Would hopefully be a team effort, but would certainly be an Open Project, having the original & the disassembled / reassembled HP 70K files in an archive.

I worry that any remaining HP 70K software, on diskettes, ROMs', personality cards, etc. will soon be tossed out, without an archive.
... The old timers that worked on this equipment won't be around forever.
The HP 70K hardware itself seems so useful, interesting and now recently becoming available at affordable prices, it simply makes sense to appeal for an HP 70K software archive to be actively assembled; { along with any un-obtainable documentation }.

I have had some past experience reading and dis assembling / re-writing old ROM code extracted from instrumentation & some experience with old RMB & porting old HP Instrument Basic programs to run on a newer (post HP) TransEra Basic platform using Win Xp.?

Anyway, the quest is for ?any and ?all ?HP 70K software, ROMware, etc. to be placed in an open, freely downloadable ?archive.

thank you,

#90710

Hi,


i would be interested in all the HP calibration software - not only HP
70k, also for other HP test equipment. I think the easiest way to get
the software running is an older PC where you can run the HP82324A Basic
coprocessor, which is basically a HP9000/300 system.


I'm currently trying another approach - emulating the HP9000/300 system
on a modern PC. I've started to implement a HP9000/300 system using mame
(), so it can be emulated. We currently support
emulating the HP9895 and HP9122C floppy drive, and have HP BASIC
running. What's missing to use that in a meaningful way for HP test
equipment is the ability to talk via IEEE-488 to the outside world.
There's some kind of MAME interface available called IEEE remotizer,
which could be useful for talking to external devices.


Here's a screenshot how HP basic looks in the emulator:





In  there are also other pictures of HP-UX
booting in the emulator. the stuff required to boot HP-UX 9 is not
upstream yet (SCSI controller, MMU stuff, etc). Currently i'm mostly
alone working on the project, if anybody on this list feels like
contributing/helping you're welcome to join.


Regards

Sven

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On 08/22/2018 07:42 PM, garp6 wrote:
hi,

Am looking for all the software related to the HP 70K MMS system, its
modules, calibration & analysis software and related ROM's.

Although it might be fanciful, the goal would be to have the HP 70K
MMS system running on a modern laptop using a USB-GPIB adapter, and to
also be able to upgrade any ROM's etc, for all of the MMS modules.

This does not preclude anyone who is able to run it on the old HP
computer systems, their help to modernize the HP 70K software suite
would be most welcome.

So wondering if we can collectively assemble a complete archive of any
HP 70K ?software, firmware, etc.?

To proceed, it would need a detailed examination of the original Rocky
Mountain Basic / HP Instrument Basic / HP Basic files needs to occur.
Then to port (or re-write) that software to some more modern computer
we can all use, perhaps Python, C, or VB or something else.
Would hopefully be a team effort, but would certainly be an Open
Project, having the original & the disassembled / reassembled HP 70K
files in an archive.

I worry that any remaining HP 70K software, on diskettes, ROMs',
personality cards, etc. will soon be tossed out, without an archive.
... The old timers that worked on this equipment won't be around forever.
The HP 70K hardware itself seems so useful, interesting and now
recently becoming available at affordable prices, it simply makes
sense to appeal for an HP 70K software archive to be actively
assembled; { along with any un-obtainable documentation }.

I have had some past experience reading and dis assembling /
re-writing old ROM code extracted from instrumentation & some
experience with old RMB & porting old HP Instrument Basic programs to
run on a newer (post HP) TransEra Basic platform using Win Xp.?

Anyway, the quest is for ?any and ?all ?HP 70K software, ROMware, etc.
to be placed in an open, freely downloadable ?archive.

thank you,

STEVE REEVES

#90712

开云体育

Keysight Technologies currently uses the N7800A Calibration Platform.

http://cal.software.keysight.com/

This supports a wide variety of the newer models,? but probabedly not the much older ones. re

When I was in the calibraition field (39 years), I was using the Fluke Met/Cal platform. I purchased and wrote many automated calibration/performance tests. A couple of these were for the old HP 70K system.

Steve

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

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-------- Original message --------

From: Sven Schnelle <svens@...>

Date: 8/22/18 2:15 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 70 K MMS software, whole system, modules & ROM's ( including ... Hp 70909A, 70910A, etc.)

Hi,

i would be interested in all the HP calibration software - not only HP
70k, also for other HP test equipment. I think the easiest way to get
the software running is an older PC where you can run the HP82324A Basic
coprocessor, which is basically a HP9000/300 system.

I'm currently trying another approach - emulating the HP9000/300 system
on a modern PC. I've started to implement a HP9000/300 system using mame
(http://mamedev.org/), so it can be emulated. We currently support
emulating the HP9895 and HP9122C floppy drive, and have HP BASIC
running. What's missing to use that in a meaningful way for HP test
equipment is the ability to talk via IEEE-488 to the outside world.
There's some kind of MAME interface available called IEEE remotizer,
which could be useful for talking to external devices.

Here's a screenshot how HP basic looks in the emulator:

https://stackframe.org/hp300/basic.png

In https://stackframe.org/hp300/ there are also other pictures of HP-UX
booting in the emulator. the stuff required to boot HP-UX 9 is not
upstream yet (SCSI controller, MMU stuff, etc). Currently i'm mostly
alone working on the project, if anybody on this list feels like
contributing/helping you're welcome to join.

Regards

Sven

On 08/22/2018 07:42 PM, garp6 wrote:
> hi,
>
> Am looking for all the software related to the HP 70K MMS system, its
> modules, calibration & analysis software and related ROM's.
>
> Although it might be fanciful, the goal would be to have the HP 70K
> MMS system running on a modern laptop using a USB-GPIB adapter, and to
> also be able to upgrade any ROM's etc, for all of the MMS modules.
>
> This does not preclude anyone who is able to run it on the old HP
> computer systems, their help to modernize the HP 70K software suite
> would be most welcome.
>
> So wondering if we can collectively assemble a complete archive of any
> HP 70K ?software, firmware, etc.?
>
> To proceed, it would need a detailed examination of the original Rocky
> Mountain Basic / HP Instrument Basic / HP Basic files needs to occur.
> Then to port (or re-write) that software to some more modern computer
> we can all use, perhaps Python, C, or VB or something else.
> Would hopefully be a team effort, but would certainly be an Open
> Project, having the original & the disassembled / reassembled HP 70K
> files in an archive.
>
> I worry that any remaining HP 70K software, on diskettes, ROMs',
> personality cards, etc. will soon be tossed out, without an archive.
> ... The old timers that worked on this equipment won't be around forever.
> The HP 70K hardware itself seems so useful, interesting and now
> recently becoming available at affordable prices, it simply makes
> sense to appeal for an HP 70K software archive to be actively
> assembled; { along with any un-obtainable documentation }.
>
> I have had some past experience reading and dis assembling /
> re-writing old ROM code extracted from instrumentation & some
> experience with old RMB & porting old HP Instrument Basic programs to
> run on a newer (post HP) TransEra Basic platform using Win Xp.?
>
> Anyway, the quest is for ?any and ?all ?HP 70K software, ROMware, etc.
> to be placed in an open, freely downloadable ?archive.
>
> thank you,
>

#90733

Hi Regarding a store for the HP 70 K  programs 

You do realise there is   hp_70000@...

regards Paul B

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sven Schnelle
Sent: 22 August 2018 19:16
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 70 K MMS software, whole
system, modules & ROM's ( including ... Hp 70909A, 70910A, etc.)

Hi,

i would be interested in all the HP calibration software - not only HP
70k, also for other HP test equipment. I think the easiest way to get
the software running is an older PC where you can run the HP82324A Basic
coprocessor, which is basically a HP9000/300 system.

I'm currently trying another approach - emulating the HP9000/300 system
on a modern PC. I've started to implement a HP9000/300 system using mame
(), so it can be emulated. We currently support
emulating the HP9895 and HP9122C floppy drive, and have HP BASIC
running. What's missing to use that in a meaningful way for HP test
equipment is the ability to talk via IEEE-488 to the outside world.
There's some kind of MAME interface available called IEEE remotizer,
which could be useful for talking to external devices.

Here's a screenshot how HP basic looks in the emulator:

In  there are also other pictures of HP-UX
booting in the emulator. the stuff required to boot HP-UX 9 is not
upstream yet (SCSI controller, MMU stuff, etc). Currently i'm mostly
alone working on the project, if anybody on this list feels like
contributing/helping you're welcome to join.

Regards

Sven

On 08/22/2018 07:42 PM, garp6 wrote:
hi,

Am looking for all the software related to the HP 70K MMS system, its
modules, calibration & analysis software and related ROM's.

Although it might be fanciful, the goal would be to have the HP 70K
MMS system running on a modern laptop using a USB-GPIB adapter, and to
also be able to upgrade any ROM's etc, for all of the MMS modules.

This does not preclude anyone who is able to run it on the old HP
computer systems, their help to modernize the HP 70K software suite
would be most welcome.

So wondering if we can collectively assemble a complete archive of any
HP 70K ?software, firmware, etc.?

To proceed, it would need a detailed examination of the original Rocky
Mountain Basic / HP Instrument Basic / HP Basic files needs to occur.
Then to port (or re-write) that software to some more modern computer
we can all use, perhaps Python, C, or VB or something else.
Would hopefully be a team effort, but would certainly be an Open
Project, having the original & the disassembled / reassembled HP 70K
files in an archive.

I worry that any remaining HP 70K software, on diskettes, ROMs',
personality cards, etc. will soon be tossed out, without an archive.
... The old timers that worked on this equipment won't be around forever.
The HP 70K hardware itself seems so useful, interesting and now
recently becoming available at affordable prices, it simply makes
sense to appeal for an HP 70K software archive to be actively
assembled; { along with any un-obtainable documentation }.

I have had some past experience reading and dis assembling /
re-writing old ROM code extracted from instrumentation & some
experience with old RMB & porting old HP Instrument Basic programs to
run on a newer (post HP) TransEra Basic platform using Win Xp.?

Anyway, the quest is for ?any and ?all ?HP 70K software, ROMware, etc.
to be placed in an open, freely downloadable ?archive.

thank you,

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#90734

On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, 09:11 Paul Bicknell, <paul@...> wrote:

Hi Regarding a store for the HP 70 K? programs

You do realise there is? ?hp_70000@...

regards Paul B

I don't know how much activity there is on that group, but I know when someone announced it had been set up, there was almost universal condemnation of it. Almost everyone wanted to keep the discussions on the HP/Agilent list, which of? course has been retired after I migrated it to here.

#90736

There is some traffic, but it is often duplicated here.

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On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 4:46 AM Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd <drkirkby@...> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, 09:11 Paul Bicknell, <paul@...> wrote:
Hi Regarding a store for the HP 70 K? programs

You do realise there is? ?hp_70000@...

regards Paul B

I don't know how much activity there is on that group, but I know when someone announced it had been set up, there was almost universal condemnation of it. Almost everyone wanted to keep the discussions on the HP/Agilent list, which of? course has been retired after I migrated it to here.