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16700B mouse and keyboard compatibility


 

I just tried to update from an ancient logitech ps/2 mouse with ball to a new ps/2 laser mouse. My 16700B didn't recognize it.

Same result with a new compact keyboard. My old one, that dates from around 1990, works fine.

Both are native ps/2 devices and work on windows machines with ps/2 interfaces.

Has anyone else encountered this problem?

Ed


 

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On 2016-02-18 4:30 PM, sreeb sreeb@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
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I just tried to update from an ancient logitech ps/2 mouse with ball to
a new ps/2 laser mouse. My 16700B didn't recognize it.

Same result with a new compact keyboard. My old one, that dates from
around 1990, works fine.

Both are native ps/2 devices and work on windows machines with ps/2
interfaces.

Has anyone else encountered this problem?

Ed

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I use a Logitech M-BD58 mouse on my 16700A without any problems.? This is an older optical mouse with a USB-PS/2 adapter on the end.? I do recall reading that some keyboards and mice did not work do to the absence of some pullups on the 16700 PS/2 ports, but I am no longer sure where I saw that.? My keyboard is an ancient compact keyboard from a Compaq portable 486.

Paul.


 

On 02/18/2016 03:30 PM, sreeb sreeb@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
I just tried to update from an ancient logitech ps/2 mouse with ball to
a new ps/2 laser mouse. My 16700B didn't recognize it.

Same result with a new compact keyboard. My old one, that dates from
around 1990, works fine.

Both are native ps/2 devices and work on windows machines with ps/2
interfaces.

Has anyone else encountered this problem?
From my archives, a post by Martin Hodge on the eevblog forum in 2014:

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It appears that all that is wrong with these units is that they are
missing pull-up resistors on the PS/2 ports. There are even unpopulated
pads for them directly behind the connectors. (see image) All that I had
to do was add 1k resistors in the four locations and the unit recognized
an old el-cheapo PS/2 mouse and keyboard. (As expected, a USB mouse or
KB thru a PS/2 adapter did not work.)
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-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Jack Mcmullen
 

As I remember there is a specific manufacture of keyboard and mouse that the 1600 wants. The rest of the world'ss key/mice are??not recognized.
Jack KG6INX


-----Original Message-----
From: sreeb sreeb@... [hp_agilent_equipment]
To: hp_agilent_equipment
Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2016 12:30 pm
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 16700B mouse and keyboard compatibility

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I just tried to update from an ancient logitech ps/2 mouse with ball to
a new ps/2 laser mouse. My 16700B didn't recognize it.

Same result with a new compact keyboard. My old one, that dates from
around 1990, works fine.

Both are native ps/2 devices and work on windows machines with ps/2
interfaces.

Has anyone else encountered this problem?

Ed

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It appears that all that is wrong with these units is that they are
missing pull-up resistors on the PS/2 ports. There are even unpopulated
pads for them directly behind the connectors. (see image) All that I had
to do was add 1k resistors in the four locations and the unit recognized
an old el-cheapo PS/2 mouse and keyboard. (As expected, a USB mouse or
KB thru a PS/2 adapter did not work.)
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Good to know.? I hunted through my box of old keyboards until I found on that worked, but someday I might still need this.

Now id someone could just solve the recent JAVA security update incompatibility that would be great (recent JAVA does not work with the remote browser interface, refuses to connect to the analyzer).


Jack Mcmullen
 

Time for a dedicated laptop/desktop without the java period


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From: dburton97128@... [hp_agilent_equipment]
To: hp_agilent_equipment
Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2016 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 16700B mouse and keyboard compatibility

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It appears that all that is wrong with these units is that they are
missing pull-up resistors on the PS/2 ports. There are even unpopulated
pads for them directly behind the connectors. (see image) All that I had
to do was add 1k resistors in the four locations and the unit recognized
an old el-cheapo PS/2 mouse and keyboard. (As expected, a USB mouse or
KB thru a PS/2 adapter did not work.)
---------------------

Good to know.? I hunted through my box of old keyboards until I found on that worked, but someday I might still need this.

Now id someone could just solve the recent JAVA security update incompatibility that would be great (recent JAVA does not work with the remote browser interface, refuses to connect to the analyzer).


 

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:01:14 -0500, you wrote:

Time for a dedicated laptop/desktop without the java period
I'm puzzled, how does this allow the 1670x to work with an existing
keyboard or mouse?

Do you propose, instead, bypassing the local connections and using a
separate computer?

Harvey











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From: dburton97128@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>

To: hp_agilent_equipment <hp_agilent_equipment@...>

Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2016 4:22 pm

Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 16700B mouse and keyboard compatibility



??? ---------------------

It appears that all that is wrong with these units is that they are

missing pull-up resistors on the PS/2 ports. There are even unpopulated

pads for them directly behind the connectors. (see image) All that I had

to do was add 1k resistors in the four locations and the unit recognized

an old el-cheapo PS/2 mouse and keyboard. (As expected, a USB mouse or

KB thru a PS/2 adapter did not work.)

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Good to know.??? I hunted through my box of old keyboards until I found on that worked, but someday I might still need this.



Now id someone could just solve the recent JAVA security update incompatibility that would be great (recent JAVA does not work with the remote browser interface, refuses to connect to the analyzer).










 

Solder inside 16700 near connector two 1KOhm resistors (there even are empty places on PCB) and it will work with every mouse or keybord what you can find...

Juris


 

Great tip!

2016-02-19 1:02 GMT-02:00 Juris L juris.l@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>:

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Solder inside 16700 near connector two 1KOhm resistors (there even are empty places on PCB) and it will work with every mouse or keybord what you can find...

Juris



Jack Mcmullen
 

I was referring to the question regarding latest Java browser update


-----Original Message-----
From: Harvey White madyn@... [hp_agilent_equipment]
To: hp_agilent_equipment
Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2016 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 16700B mouse and keyboard compatibility

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:01:14 -0500, you wrote:

>Time for a dedicated laptop/desktop without the java period

I'm puzzled, how does this allow the 1670x to work with an existing
keyboard or mouse?

Do you propose, instead, bypassing the local connections and using a
separate computer?

Harvey

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> to do was add 1k resistors in the four locations and the unit recognized
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>Good to know.? I hunted through my box of old keyboards until I found on that worked, but someday I might still need this.
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>Now id someone could just solve the recent JAVA security update incompatibility that would be great (recent JAVA does not work with the remote browser interface, refuses to connect to the analyzer).
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 22:12:17 -0500, you wrote:

I was referring to the question regarding latest Java browser update
ok, thanks.

Harvey









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From: Harvey White madyn@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>

To: hp_agilent_equipment <hp_agilent_equipment@...>

Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2016 6:42 pm

Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 16700B mouse and keyboard compatibility



??? On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:01:14 -0500, you wrote:



Time for a dedicated laptop/desktop without the java period


I'm puzzled, how does this allow the 1670x to work with an existing

keyboard or mouse?



Do you propose, instead, bypassing the local connections and using a

separate computer?



Harvey



-----Original Message-----
From: dburton97128@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
To: hp_agilent_equipment <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2016 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 16700B mouse and keyboard compatibility
??? ---------------------
It appears that all that is wrong with these units is that they are
missing pull-up resistors on the PS/2 ports. There are even unpopulated
pads for them directly behind the connectors. (see image) All that I had
to do was add 1k resistors in the four locations and the unit recognized
an old el-cheapo PS/2 mouse and keyboard. (As expected, a USB mouse or
KB thru a PS/2 adapter did not work.)
---------------------
Good to know.??? I hunted through my box of old keyboards until I found on that worked, but someday I might still need this.
Now id someone could just solve the recent JAVA security update incompatibility that would be great (recent JAVA does not work with the remote browser interface, refuses to connect to the analyzer).













 

On Thu, 2016-02-18 at 12:30 -0800, sreeb sreeb@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
I just tried to update from an ancient logitech ps/2 mouse with ball to
a new ps/2 laser mouse. My 16700B didn't recognize it.

Same result with a new compact keyboard. My old one, that dates from
around 1990, works fine.

Both are native ps/2 devices and work on windows machines with ps/2
interfaces.

Has anyone else encountered this problem?

Ed


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I use ancient media-tech mt111 mouse with ps/2 connector. I turned out
that hp16702 will complain (and stop) during boot if the mouse is not
connected even that its window manager is configured for remote session
(vnc) so i keep the mouse in the pouch bag all the time however mouse
must be connected.
I know nothing about keyboard. Didn't have any need/interest in using
aux keyboards.

the mt111 is ball, 3-buttons + wheel mouse and seems it is not available
anymore.

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Krzysztof Blaszkowski