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HP DVM / DMM technological history


 

Hello All,


I am doing a bit of research to accomplish a comprehensive understanding of the DVM / DMM technology from the late fifties and early sixties into the 90's. ?I have come up with what I think is a list that covers the models I should be looking into. ?Are there any more digital meters that should be added?


405

2401

2402

3435

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3490


Cheers,


David


 

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I forget the nomenclature of the pen style red LED readout DVM. I had several and they were neat. Regards – Mike

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Mike B. Feher, N4FS

89 Arnold Blvd.

Howell, NJ, 07731

732-886-5960

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Hello All,

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I am doing a bit of research to accomplish a comprehensive understanding of the DVM / DMM technology from the late fifties and early sixties into the 90's. ?I have come up with what I think is a list that covers the models I should be looking into. ?Are there any more digital meters that should be added?

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405

2401

2402

3435

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3490

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Cheers,

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David


 

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How about the 3437?? It was a “high speed” (by ‘70’s standards), and was used for digitizing waveforms.

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Daun

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Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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Hello All,

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I am doing a bit of research to accomplish a comprehensive understanding of the DVM / DMM technology from the late fifties and early sixties into the 90's. ?I have come up with what I think is a list that covers the models I should be looking into. ?Are there any more digital meters that should be added?

?

405

2401

2402

3435

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3490

?

Cheers,

?

David


 

What about

3403
3470
3480

Look for application note 158 "selecting the right DVM" which is nice to read.

G?ran



 

AH YES!!! The 970 tiny 3.5 digit handheld DMM. ?Was that the very first handheld?

d

the latest update:

405

2401

2402

3403

3435

3437

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3470

3480

3490



 

Hello,

I have also the 3466, much better than the 3465 (that I had too) in many respects.
I don't know if your list is intended to be complete.

Frank

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 3:32 PM, d.garrido@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
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AH YES!!! The 970 tiny 3.5 digit handheld DMM.? Was that the very first handheld?


d

the latest update:

405

2401

2402

3403

3435

3437

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3470

3480

3490




 

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As far as I know. Everyone wanted one J. Regards – Mike

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Mike B. Feher, N4FS

89 Arnold Blvd.

Howell, NJ, 07731

732-886-5960

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AH YES!!! The 970 tiny 3.5 digit handheld DMM. ?Was that the very first handheld?

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the latest update:

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405

2401

2402

3403

3435

3437

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3470

3480

3490

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Thank you Frank. ?I am not certain of my list at this point. ?I would like to understand the evolution of the technology and any meter that contributed to that should be of interest to my research I suppose. ?I am not certain that needs to include the small portable snap-on style meters though.

Cheers,

David


 

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The 3467 Logging Mulitimeter had a printer built in. It was interesting but didn't last long, I guess there wasn't a lot of interest. I have two.

Jeremy
N6WFO


On 2/16/2016 6:48 AM, d.garrido@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:

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Thank you Frank. ?I am not certain of my list at this point. ?I would like to understand the evolution of the technology and any meter that contributed to that should be of interest to my research I suppose. ?I am not certain that needs to include the small portable snap-on style meters though.


Cheers,

David


 

David
My 3478A is a DMM.? I guess you will get a long list!
Steve



From: "d.garrido@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:00 PM
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP DVM / DMM technological history

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Hello All,

I am doing a bit of research to accomplish a comprehensive understanding of the DVM / DMM technology from the late fifties and early sixties into the 90's. ?I have come up with what I think is a list that covers the models I should be looking into. ?Are there any more digital meters that should be added?

405
2401
2402
3435
3440
3450
3455
3456
3460
3465
3490

Cheers,

David



 

I don't know if you want to include them, but there were also some scopes including the HP 1715A and Tek 465B that had digital multimeters glued to the top.


 

The real flagship DMM from HP is still the 3458A, it remains the favorite of most high end cal shops and is used by many as their primary shop standard.? capable of accuracy to a few ppm in some modes, it is really a marvel of engineering a every level.

oddly, it is the fluke 8506A that was the preferred standard for true RMS AC measurements.
other very high end units include Datron and Schlumberger models.

all the best,
walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca)
sphere research corp.


 

I am trying to stick with one company at a time first, then I will need to branch out to the other quality makers to compare and learn. ?I know the 405 was a commercial flop relative to the 3440 and that there were a few key players early in the game, esp. NLS and Cubic, but I have found few others.

I am finding it quite an interesting journey so far.

Any thoughts or ideas or memories would be great.

I have located most pertinent HP Journals, App Notes, and Catalogs so the easy part is done. ?Now it is time to dive in and see where it takes me. ?Thank you all for your input!!! ?Keep it coming.

Cheers,

David

The latest list:

405

2401

2402

3403

3435

3437

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3466

3467

3470

3478

3480

3490



 

Yes, the 3458A should definitely be in there:



On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:17 AM, walter2@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
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The real flagship DMM from HP is still the 3458A, it remains the favorite of most high end cal shops and is used by many as their primary shop standard.? capable of accuracy to a few ppm in some modes, it is really a marvel of engineering a every level.

oddly, it is the fluke 8506A that was the preferred standard for true RMS AC measurements.
other very high end units include Datron and Schlumberger models.

all the best,
walter (walter2 -at- )
sphere research corp.



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You are missing the 3480.?
Do you want to include companion units like the 3495 Scanner ?
I worked at the Loveland Instrument Division, LID, on voltmeters from 1969 until 1975 on various projects.

Larry Bower

On 2/16/2016 6:08 AM, 'Daun Yeagley' daun@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:

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How about the 3437?? It was a “high speed” (by ‘70’s standards), and was used for digitizing waveforms.

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Daun

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Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP DVM / DMM technological history

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Hello All,

?

I am doing a bit of research to accomplish a comprehensive understanding of the DVM / DMM technology from the late fifties and early sixties into the 90's. ?I have come up with what I think is a list that covers the models I should be looking into. ?Are there any more digital meters that should be added?

?

405

2401

2402

3435

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3490

?

Cheers,

?

David



 

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Greetings,

Two interesting HP DMM’s were the HP 3476A which could be configured as a stand alone DMM or integrated on top of a scope.

The other was a unique handheld auto-ranging probe-like DMM - the HP-970A. ?These were really kind of neat and handy. ?Unfortunately, they had a real tendency to “grow legs” and disappear! ?When they were a current product, sometime in the ’70’s, I think they were $300 - $400 which was more then than it is now. ?When HP designed the 970 they must have never considered how tempting they would be to follow people home.

Ken

On 16Feb, 2016, at 7:00 AM, d.garrido@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:


Hello All,


I am doing a bit of research to accomplish a comprehensive understanding of the DVM / DMM technology from the late fifties and early sixties into the 90's. ?I have come up with what I think is a list that covers the models I should be looking into. ?Are there any more digital meters that should be added?


405

2401

2402

3435

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3490


Cheers,


David




 

A side note:
HP advertised but never produced: >>> <<<
"Prism, the interface card that never was" I/O card for reading voltage.

Dennis



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On Tue, 2/16/16, Ken Chalfant kpchalfant@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP DVM / DMM technological history
To: "hp_agilent_equipment" <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 1:07 PM























Greetings,
Two
interesting HP DMM’s were the HP 3476A which could be
configured as a stand alone DMM or integrated on top of a
scope.
The
other was a unique handheld auto-ranging probe-like DMM -
the HP-970A. ?These were really kind of neat and handy.
?Unfortunately, they had a real tendency to “grow
legs” and disappear! ?When they were a current
product, sometime in the ’70’s, I think they were $300 -
$400 which was more then than it is now. ?When HP
designed the 970 they must have never considered how
tempting they would be to follow people home.
Ken
On 16Feb,
2016, at 7:00 AM, d.garrido@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
wrote:

Hello All,
I am doing a bit of research to
accomplish a comprehensive understanding of the DVM / DMM
technology from the late fifties and early sixties into the
90's. ?I have come up with what I think is a list
that covers the models I should be looking into. ?Are
there any more digital meters that should be
added?
4052401240234353440345034553456346034653490
Cheers,
David


 

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How about the workhorse 3478?? Very popular and as low as $150 guaranteed working on eBay.

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PS: My stable of HP DMMs is a 3456, 3457, and 2 3478’s.

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Regards, John K1AE

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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP DVM / DMM technological history

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?

Hello All,

?

I am doing a bit of research to accomplish a comprehensive understanding of the DVM / DMM technology from the late fifties and early sixties into the 90's. ?I have come up with what I think is a list that covers the models I should be looking into. ?Are there any more digital meters that should be added?

?

405

2401

2402

3435

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3490

?

Cheers,

?

David


 

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Speaking of the 3478 (which I also have), is the 3468.? It’s very similar to the 3478, but uses HP-IL rather than HP-IB.? (this was for use with the handhelds like the HP-41, HP-71 and the like).

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Daun

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Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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How about the workhorse 3478?? Very popular and as low as $150 guaranteed working on eBay.

?

PS: My stable of HP DMMs is a 3456, 3457, and 2 3478’s.

?

Regards, John K1AE

?

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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP DVM / DMM technological history

?

?

Hello All,

?

I am doing a bit of research to accomplish a comprehensive understanding of the DVM / DMM technology from the late fifties and early sixties into the 90's. ?I have come up with what I think is a list that covers the models I should be looking into. ?Are there any more digital meters that should be added?

?

405

2401

2402

3435

3440

3450

3455

3456

3460

3465

3490

?

Cheers,

?

David


Leon Robinson
 

I have a 405AR and a 970A.

Also a Non HP Digitec Z-204B.
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Leon Robinson ?? K5JLR

Political Correctness is a Political Disease.



From: "d.garrido@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 8:32 AM
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP DVM / DMM technological history

?
AH YES!!! The 970 tiny 3.5 digit handheld DMM. ?Was that the very first handheld?

d

the latest update:

405
2401
2402
3403
3435
3437
3440
3450
3455
3456
3460
3465
3470
3480
3490