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HP 8510C with 8340A?

Tam Hanna All Messages By This Member #151656 开云体育 Hello Folks, sorry to annoy you with a problem - in an act of stupidity, I bought like half of a 8510C VNA. In particular, I got the display and the test set, which means I miss the compute unit and the waveform generator. A friend of mine would now have a 2602 serial number of the 8340A unit which he would want to offload onto me for a nice price. For me, the key question is whether this - it is quite an old version of the generator - will be compatible with the 8510C? I looked around the internet a bit, and so far did not find any binding answer... Tam -- With best regards Tam HANNA Enjoy electronics? Join 21k4 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at
Jim Ford All Messages By This Member #151657 No annoyance taken, Tam. I remembered seeing in one of the HP app notes about using different sweepers with the 8510 system.? Here's a screenshot; hopefully you can read it: Note 1 shows that the 8340 series synthesized sweepers can be used with the 8510 but at some degraded performance level versus the 8360 series sweepers.? I'm not sure what the performance degradation would be.? In fact, I'd expect better performance from the 8340A vs. the 20 GHz 8350B sweeper I have that will someday be part of my own 8510 system (so far, that's the only component of the system I have, no display, no IF unit, no test set). I've attached the upgrade guide for your convenience.? The excerpt I showed is on page 8. Good luck, Tam. Jim Ford Laguna Hills, California, USA On Friday, May 2, 2025 at 03:01:39 PM CDT, Tam Hanna <tamhan@...> wrote: Hello Folks, sorry to annoy you with a problem - in an act of stupidity, I bought like half of a 8510C VNA. In particular, I got the display and the test set, which means I miss the compute unit and the waveform generator. A friend of mine would now have a 2602 serial number of the 8340A unit which he would want to offload onto me for a nice price. For me, the key question is whether this - it is quite an old version of the generator - will be compatible with the 8510C? I looked around the internet a bit, and so far did not find any binding answer... Tam -- With best regards Tam HANNA Enjoy electronics? Join 21k4 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at 85051b-upgrade-guide.pdf 85051b-upgrade-guide.pdf
Don Bitters All Messages By This Member #151661 IIRC, the 8510 series of VNA’s will work with a large number of sweepers, some of which are not HPAK. The only requirement is that they be able to emulate an 8340A/B, you could actually use an 8620C/ 86290A/B/C sweeper with the system, though not with the more automated control of the 8350A/B sweeper/ plug-in combo, the measurement system control got much better with the 834xA/B sweeper, and more stable with the 8360 series of sweepers. I have once seen a system with a Wilton sweeper, and once a system with Gigatronics 2540 microwave generator. The 8510C system with an 8340B had an incredible precision 0.01 dB or 0.02 dB in the 8340 base band. We trashed $5000 precision HP VNA cable sets that were worn enough to to be unable to maintain a delta of less than 0.02 dB when moved. Which is why the 8482A, -3A, -4A, -5A power sensors we calibrated with the power meter head calibration system 8510C, 8340B, 3585A, and I cannot clearly recall the rest of the ETE in the system - a 5 ft. tall HP rack, would print out cal factors to 2 decimal places (3 decimal places was possible, but not terribly useful to most customers). Don Bitters
Tam Hanna All Messages By This Member #151676 Hello Jim, thank you for your kind response, and sorry for being slow in getting back to you. My worry is the firmware revision on the 8340A. I have seen a few posts about the A models needing firmware updates which require a four EEPROM board, but I have no way to verify that the unit I have has this motherboard revision. Or, will any 8340A work with the 8510C if it has a sufficiently recent firmware? Tam -- With best regards Tam HANNA Enjoy electronics? Join 21k4 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at
Ed Marciniak All Messages By This Member #151677 开云体育 The 8350B (V7 mainframe firmware) and 83595C (v9 firmware) worked with my 8510C with 7.00 firmware. Using an ecal module/controller on the 8510C(8515A test set) with 7.10 firmware seemed to work to 20GHz, failing above 20GHz. 7.16 firmware throws a syntax error on an OB command sent to the 8350B, trying to determine the band switch points for the YIG oscillator/multiplier. I have no idea how any of that would work with a test set with integrate doubler like an 8516A. The 8350B+83595C got moved to the 8970B+8971C, so I just moved an HPIB cable one position in the stack. toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim Ford via groups.io <james.ford@...> Sent: Friday, May 2, 2025 5:06:13 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 8510C with 8340A? ? No annoyance taken, Tam. I remembered seeing in one of the HP app notes about using different sweepers with the 8510 system.? Here's a screenshot; hopefully you can read it: Note 1 shows that the 8340 series synthesized sweepers can be used with the 8510 but at some degraded performance level versus the 8360 series sweepers.? I'm not sure what the performance degradation would be.? In fact, I'd expect better performance from the 8340A vs. the 20 GHz 8350B sweeper I have that will someday be part of my own 8510 system (so far, that's the only component of the system I have, no display, no IF unit, no test set). I've attached the upgrade guide for your convenience.? The excerpt I showed is on page 8. Good luck, Tam. Jim Ford Laguna Hills, California, USA On Friday, May 2, 2025 at 03:01:39 PM CDT, Tam Hanna <tamhan@...> wrote: Hello Folks, sorry to annoy you with a problem - in an act of stupidity, I bought like half of a 8510C VNA. In particular, I got the display and the test set, which means I miss the compute unit and the waveform generator. A friend of mine would now have a 2602 serial number of the 8340A unit which he would want to offload onto me for a nice price. For me, the key question is whether this - it is quite an old version of the generator - will be compatible with the 8510C? I looked around the internet a bit, and so far did not find any binding answer... Tam -- With best regards Tam HANNA Enjoy electronics? Join 21k4 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at
tom_iphi All Messages By This Member #151681 I Have a 8340A running flawlessly in my 8510C system. HP8340A Firmware: Rev 23, May 85 Serial Prefix 2602A ? Hope this helps, Tom ?
Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd Member Profile All Messages By This Member #151682 On Fri, 2 May 2025 at 21:01, Tam Hanna via <tamhan=[email protected]> wrote: For me, the key question is whether this - it is quite an old version of the generator - will be compatible with the 8510C? I looked around the internet a bit, and so far did not find any binding answer... Tam I have a customer with an 8510C, which he bought with a sweeper that worked. However, when he tried to use an electronic calibration (Ecal), it would not work. He had to upgrade the sweeper. I have no idea what model or firmware he had.? Dave
tom_iphi All Messages By This Member #151704 Additional info to my previous post: -I do NOT use an ECal unit. -HP8510C Firmware: 07.14, Aug 26th 1998 ? As said this works together with? my HP8340A Rev 23, May 85 Serial Prefix 2602A ? Tom ?

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