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Re: hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

 

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Hi Paul,

I¡¯ve only encountered it in the 3.5mm connectors on both the 83595 and on the 8340B. I don¡¯t have the service manuals to hand right now but I¡¯d guess it¡¯s not so much to protect the attenuator as it is to protect what¡¯s upstream from it if the attenuator is set to 0.

Cheers,


Steve
WB0DBS



On Apr 14, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Paul Bicknell <paul@...> wrote:

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Hi Steve

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You say the front panel connector is not just a feed through, it has a DC block built into it ?

This is new to me is this only for the 3.5 mm or for all including the N types

Alternatively is it to protect the attenuator

?

Paul

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve - Home
Sent: 14 April 2020 14:19
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

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Hi Jan,

The semi-rigid is standard .141 with precision stainless steel SMA connectors. It is L-shaped with a bit of an offset in the leg that goes to the front panel connector:

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Please note that the front panel connector is not just a feedthrough, it has a DC block built into it. If you substitute a straight bulkhead connector you lose that DC protection. I would recommend removing the rear panel connector and using it instead. You can always revert to rear panel output if you need to. There's precious little room in the plug in to add a relay to allow switching back and forth. If you use your 3.5mm bulkhead connector I'd recommend a connector saver and an external DC block. Better yet go to an SMA bulkhead connector instead of the 3.5mm as I'd bet you'll be using SMA for everything else as 3.5mm connectors are expensive and fragile.

Since you will be mating 3.5mm to SMA do be aware that those connections should be torqued to 5 in/lb, .57 N/m, not the usual SMA to SMA or 3.5 to 3.5 value of 8 in/lb, .9 N/m

If amplitude accuracy needs to be within specs you'll need to do an RF amplitude calibration once everything is in place as you've made changes to the RF output path.

Good luck with the project and let us know how it goes. I've switched an 8340B from rear to front panel output but my 83595A's came with front panel output so I've not needed to modify them.

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Cheers,

Steve K.

WB?DBS

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On 4/13/2020 11:27 AM, Jan de Jongh wrote:

Hi all,

I'm trying to get my RF output on the front panel instead of at the rear on an hp83595a (26.5 GHz), while leaving the rear-panel option intact. I already have the front-panel connector from ebay and need to make a semi-rigid with 3.5mm connectors to (I guess, need to verify) the 55 dB attenuator.

Does anyone know what type of semi-rigid is used by HP in the hp83595a for the RF output and/or has suggestions for sourcing the connectors? (Sorry, complete semi-rigid noob here...) BTW, the front-panel connector I have is an APC3.5 feed through.

Thanks,
Jan

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Re: Service Support Software

 

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 10:25 AM Dick <w1ksz@...> wrote:
>
> I downloaded the Service Support Software package so I may
> try my hand at checking out my somewhat new 8648C Sig Gen.
>
> Upon opening the SW package up pops a window asking for a
> name and password. No matter what I enter it says NG ??

The username and password are right there on the Keysight download page:

  • Administration Configuration
    User: Admin (case sensitive)
    Password: Falcon (case sensitive)
  • Running Service Support Software
    User: User (case sensitive)
    Password: User (case sensitive)
  • Motherboard Utility
    Password: 8648 (case sensitive)


paging Don Bitters

 

Hey Don, are you receiving my off-list email?

-Dave

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New Kensington, PA


Re: hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

 

In the EU-UK area, probably WIHA brand is best.? They make
a set with interchangeable tips that is nice.

-J-

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020, 12:21:24 PM PDT, Paul Bicknell <paul@...> wrote:


Hi George

?

Regarding the Japanese? cross head?? yes I think they are called ??JEG

?

I have mean meaning to get a good quality set

?

Could any one recommend a good supplier??? Must Be good Quality

?

Paul


From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of george edmonds via groups.io
Sent: 14 April 2020 20:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

?

Hi Paul

The Japanese use their own version with different tip angles of a Philips head.

George

On Tuesday, 14 April 2020, 20:09:36 BST, Paul Bicknell <paul@...> wrote:

?

?

Regarding
cross head screws although I have a complete sets of Philips and PoziDriv

I still com across rouge cross head screws

I have a no 1 phillips with its tip ground down by about 2 mm so the tip
dues not bottom on the screw head this gives moor contact to the screw head
and dues not mess it up

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Hanselman
Sent: 14 April 2020 19:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel
mod

HP's provided tool kits to us (field engineering) also just had phillips.
We learned if it's not torqued to tight a #2 phillips did OK on a #1 pozi.

But the best answer is to buy the right ones even though they cost real
money

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry McDavid
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel
mod

Notice those are PoziDriv head screws, not Phillips. It is easy to damage
the screw head and possibly the driver by using the incorrect driver. We all
should have 0, 1 and 2 PoziDriv screwdrivers!

Larry

On 4/14/2020 6:18 AM, Steve - Home wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> The semi-rigid is standard .141 with precision stainless steel SMA
> connectors. It is L-shaped with a bit of an offset in the leg that
> goes to the front panel connector:...

--
Best wishes,

Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim , California ? (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland )










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Re: Service Support Software

Dick
 

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Windows Virtual PC was not on my Windows 7 computer. So I
went through all the wickets to download it and install it.

When I tried to open it, it spit back that my computer was not
of high enough pedigree to use this program.

That really got me ticked off ... I go through all this effort only
to be told I can't use it !!! What sick mind wrote this program.

I expected that Windows 7 would provide enough backward
compatibility to run this program (SSS). Maybe not or maybe the
SW package I downloaded from the HP site had a Name & PW
already imbedded. In which case it's useless.

In any case, I guess I will never know.

73, Dick, W1KSZ


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Roy Thistle <roy.thistle@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:08 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Service Support Software
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Dick wrote:
Since I don't have an XP machine available
Hi Dick:
Win 7? has backwards compatibility to run XP software, by installing an XP virtual machine. Microsoft called it XP Mode. It allows you to run Windows XP inside a virtual machine within Windows 7.
I ran it for years... worked pretty good for me.
Best regards and wishes.
Roy


Re: Application Note 122: EMI Measurement Procedure

 

The most recent military standard ¨C MIL-STD-461G dated 11 December 2015 contains considerable publication of the information contained in many of the National and International documents that are only referenced in the Agilent application note ¡°Making Conducted and Radiated Emissions Measurements.¡±? I believe that you will find it to be a much more comprehensive treatise of the subject with its 280 pages of not only covering equipment design requirements to eliminate EMI/RFI but also how to set up and test in accordance to each commercial standard published and the requirements to be met.

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If interested regarding additional information please contact me offline.

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Greg


Re: 5343A troubles

 

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That's interesting, the 5343A service manual specifies a test at 50MHz and -10dBm on the high frequency input (and the counter actually passes that without issue), but I also can pretty clearly tell that it's not working reliably above that range since the signal generator I have where I'm currently cooped up tops out at a bit over 1GHz (8640B with option 002).

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It did just dawn on me that it's conceivable that it's lost a leaf on the range switch and the sig gen readout is wrong, but since it didn't seem clearly related by a power of 2 to what the 5343A read that seems unlikely. ?I'm about to check that though

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim Ford <james.ford@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, April 13, 2020 at 3:31 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 5343A troubles

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Um, Daniel, the high frequency input says 500 MHz to 26.5 GHz, so expecting it to work much below 500 MHz is a bit much.? I checked my 5343A with an 8350B sweeper with 83592B plug-in (10 MHz to 20 GHz), and got it down to 200 MHz at 0 dBm working just fine.? Got dicey at 100 MHz and 0 dBm, though.? I've not checked at lower input levels but could do so if you think it would help you.

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I haven't tried the lower frequency range lately.? Just back a few years ago when I got it to make sure it worked.? AFAIK, mine works fine.? I can't go beyond 20 GHz (not yet!).

?

Jim

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------ Original Message ------

From: "Daniel Sheen" <danielsheen5@...>

Sent: 4/13/2020 5:59:33 AM

Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 5343A troubles

?

Thanks for all the replies,

?

further poking hasn't revealed much yet, though I haven't completely ruled out the front end connector yet (seems solid though). Power supplies seem ok.

?

I'm slightly suspicious of the sampler driver at this point. It occurs to me that if somehow that were damaged in a way that suppressed even harmonics (idk how that could occur yet though) this seems like the symptoms that I'd expect to see.

?

Further troubleshooting of that is on hold while I fix my 8555A, which apparently decided now was the perfect time to lose its +10V and +20V power supply:( But once that's fixed I'll come back to this.

?

Best,

Daniel

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Askild <megafluffy@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, April 10, 2020 at 6:07 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 5343A troubles

?

Hi Daniel,

?

Check the power lines for ripple.

I have a HP 5351B dumpster find, that did not work to well, needed higher input level, and did not work on all frequencies...

It was missing one of the capacitors in the power supply, so lots of ripple.

After finding the missing cap, and putting in a new one, it behaved great.

?

Might not be your issue, but its an easy check..

?

BR,

Askild

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On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Daniel Sheen <danielsheen5@...> wrote:

Hi all,

?

I have a rather bizarre problem with a 5343A counter. Observed symptoms are that the high frequency input works reliably up to about 250MHz, reads garbage from around 250MHz-800MHz, and then seems to work fine from 800MHz upward through 1GHz (I only have an 8640B handy atm so can't really test higher than that). Cranking up the input power a bunch seems to reduce the dead band to closer to 400MHz-600MHz.

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The counter initially failed troubleshooting step 4 in the service manual. That was resolved by replacing the A10 board (from another counter with a blown sampler). It now passes step 5 and is marginal on step 6 (sensitivity is a little lower than it ought to be but it seems to work).

?

The one other observation I've made is the IF amplitude into and out of A11 drops off rapidly if an input is tuned into the range of frequencies that it's insensitive to, but I'm struggling to find a plausible explanation for why that could occur given my understanding of the counter design (that wouldn't also make higher frequencies not be detected).

?

If anyone has any thoughts or has run into this before, suggestions would be appreciated.

?

Thanks,

Daniel, KC1EPN


Re: HP 8920A spectrum analyser amplitude calibration

 

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Hi George,

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Using my temporary fix I¡¯m seeing the following initial results, now from power on thanks to the recent tip:

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SA Ant input: +/- 0.7dB at 0dBm 1-1000MHz. The catch is that there is a 1.2dB step from 380-381MHz. Something systematic there I think.

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Power Meter:?? Around 1% agreement with HP438 over 1-20W and 1.8-432 MHz. I am pleasantly surprised by this result.

?

Kind regards

?

Colin

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of george edmonds via groups.io
Sent: 14 April 2020 14:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 8920A spectrum analyser amplitude calibration

?

Hi Colin

Having checked the Agilent specifications for a 8920A

RF power meter accuracy is plus or minus 10% of reading.

Spectrum analyser is plus or minus 2.5dB.

Looks like your 8920A is almost in calibration.

Best wishes

George G6HIG

On Tuesday, 14 April 2020, 13:50:34 BST, Colin Smithers <colin@...> wrote:

?

?

Gem!

?

Thank you.

?

Colin



On 14 Apr 2020, at 13:08, jyelmgren via groups.io <jyelmgren@...> wrote:

?you should be ble to save the instrument state with the label "POWERON" to restore that atuomatically


Re: hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

 

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Hi Dave?

Thank you?? I didn't win the prize

JIS - Japanese Industrial Standard.? OK got it??

any good suppliers of JIS screwdrivers out there

OR

JIS? Just infuriating screw

PS? we have CE markings for goods that conform to European standards

Then all the Chinese goods starting to have them on

The Chinese clam? CE stands for Chinese Export

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: 14 April 2020 20:30
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

On April 14, 2020 3:21:25 PM "Paul Bicknell" <paul@...> wrote:

> Regarding the Japanese? cross head?? yes I think they are called?? JEG

? JIS - Japanese Industrial Standard.

????????????? -Dave

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New Kensington, PA






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Re: hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

 

I just saw this on another forum yesterday:

Ylli wrote:?
If you are working on anything from Japan or surrounding areas, you really do need a set of JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screwdrivers. They work perfectly in JIS screwheads, and work well in Phillips screwheads. A Phillips screwdriver does not properly fit a JIS screwhead, and can cause some of the issues you noted. Here is the set I bought:


Re: HP 3325A/B Option 002 HV output kit - who wants one?

 

Did I miss a request for money. I'm in for 2 bare boards but hever
heard when we should pay
Quoting ghnatiuk@...:

Jared,
Did I miss your final order list?? ?I have not seen my name of
previous lists.

My order was:
I would like qty(4) full kits @$50 ea? and? qty(3) PCB only @$7ea

Total order amount:? ?$221.00

This order should all fit in a USPS? Medium Flat rate box:

You can send a PayPal request to me when ready to my account:
ghnatiuk@...
and verify to my office at? ?218-309-7256
cell:? 218-395-0675

Address:? ?George Hnatiuk
3113? CR112
International Falls, Minnesota
56649

company web site:? adc-colorado.com

Thank you,
George Hnatiuk


Re: hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

 

On April 14, 2020 3:21:25 PM "Paul Bicknell" <paul@...> wrote:
Regarding the Japanese cross head yes I think they are called JEG
JIS - Japanese Industrial Standard.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

 

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Hi George

?

Regarding the Japanese? cross head?? yes I think they are called ??JEG

?

I have mean meaning to get a good quality set

?

Could any one recommend a good supplier??? Must Be good Quality

?

Paul


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of george edmonds via groups.io
Sent: 14 April 2020 20:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

?

Hi Paul

The Japanese use their own version with different tip angles of a Philips head.

George

On Tuesday, 14 April 2020, 20:09:36 BST, Paul Bicknell <paul@...> wrote:

?

?

Regarding
cross head screws although I have a complete sets of Philips and PoziDriv

I still com across rouge cross head screws

I have a no 1 phillips with its tip ground down by about 2 mm so the tip
dues not bottom on the screw head this gives moor contact to the screw head
and dues not mess it up

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Hanselman
Sent: 14 April 2020 19:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel
mod

HP's provided tool kits to us (field engineering) also just had phillips.
We learned if it's not torqued to tight a #2 phillips did OK on a #1 pozi.

But the best answer is to buy the right ones even though they cost real
money

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry McDavid
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel
mod

Notice those are PoziDriv head screws, not Phillips. It is easy to damage
the screw head and possibly the driver by using the incorrect driver. We all
should have 0, 1 and 2 PoziDriv screwdrivers!

Larry

On 4/14/2020 6:18 AM, Steve - Home wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> The semi-rigid is standard .141 with precision stainless steel SMA
> connectors. It is L-shaped with a bit of an offset in the leg that
> goes to the front panel connector:...

--
Best wishes,

Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California? (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)










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Re: Opens and shorts for 4285A LCR meter owners

 

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Hello,

send whatever needs running!


Tam

With best regards
Tam HANNA 

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On 2020. 04. 13. 22:47, Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd wrote:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 20:20, Tam Hanna <tamhan@...> wrote:

Hello,

and it's off:


With best regards
Tam HANNA 
When I get some labels on them, I will send some photographs. I will also send a photograph of the 4285A, as the photo of the 4284A could confuse someone into thinking you need the opens and shorts for cable compensation of the 4284A, which you do not.? The two instruments look identical though.

The 4284A, all the lower frequency models and the higher frequency 4295A need opens and shorts for fixture compensation. But they are quite simple. Only the 4285A needs the additional ones I made, which is for cable compensation. On of the lower frequency models, you just set the cable length. I expect that's good enough for use to 1 MHz, but on the 30 MHz 4285A, which two stages of compensation are needed.
* Cables
* Fixtures


Re: hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

 

Hi Paul

The Japanese use their own version with different tip angles of a Philips head.

George
On Tuesday, 14 April 2020, 20:09:36 BST, Paul Bicknell <paul@...> wrote:


Regarding
cross head screws although I have a complete sets of Philips and PoziDriv

I still com across rouge cross head screws

I have a no 1 phillips with its tip ground down by about 2 mm so the tip
dues not bottom on the screw head this gives moor contact to the screw head
and dues not mess it up

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Hanselman
Sent: 14 April 2020 19:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel
mod

HP's provided tool kits to us (field engineering) also just had phillips.
We learned if it's not torqued to tight a #2 phillips did OK on a #1 pozi.

But the best answer is to buy the right ones even though they cost real
money

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry McDavid
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel
mod

Notice those are PoziDriv head screws, not Phillips. It is easy to damage
the screw head and possibly the driver by using the incorrect driver. We all
should have 0, 1 and 2 PoziDriv screwdrivers!

Larry

On 4/14/2020 6:18 AM, Steve - Home wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> The semi-rigid is standard .141 with precision stainless steel SMA
> connectors. It is L-shaped with a bit of an offset in the leg that
> goes to the front panel connector:...

--
Best wishes,

Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California? (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)










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Re: hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

 

Regarding
cross head screws although I have a complete sets of Philips and PoziDriv

I still com across rouge cross head screws

I have a no 1 phillips with its tip ground down by about 2 mm so the tip
dues not bottom on the screw head this gives moor contact to the screw head
and dues not mess it up

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Hanselman
Sent: 14 April 2020 19:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel
mod

HP's provided tool kits to us (field engineering) also just had phillips.
We learned if it's not torqued to tight a #2 phillips did OK on a #1 pozi.

But the best answer is to buy the right ones even though they cost real
money

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry McDavid
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel
mod

Notice those are PoziDriv head screws, not Phillips. It is easy to damage
the screw head and possibly the driver by using the incorrect driver. We all
should have 0, 1 and 2 PoziDriv screwdrivers!

Larry

On 4/14/2020 6:18 AM, Steve - Home wrote:
Hi Jan,

The semi-rigid is standard .141 with precision stainless steel SMA
connectors. It is L-shaped with a bit of an offset in the leg that
goes to the front panel connector:...
--
Best wishes,

Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)










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Re: Service Support Software

 

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 09:44 AM, Dick wrote:
Since I don't have an XP machine available
Hi Dick:
Win 7? has backwards compatibility to run XP software, by installing an XP virtual machine. Microsoft called it XP Mode. It allows you to run Windows XP inside a virtual machine within Windows 7.
I ran it for years... worked pretty good for me.
Best regards and wishes.
Roy


Re: hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

 

Hi All

just a plug but PoziDriv is a British Trade name

Sorry but I have to fly the union jack when I can

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry McDavid
Sent: 14 April 2020 18:17
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel
mod

Notice those are PoziDriv head screws, not Phillips. It is easy to
damage the screw head and possibly the driver by using the incorrect
driver. We all should have 0, 1 and 2 PoziDriv screwdrivers!

Larry

On 4/14/2020 6:18 AM, Steve - Home wrote:
Hi Jan,

The semi-rigid is standard .141 with precision stainless steel SMA
connectors. It is L-shaped with a bit of an offset in the leg that goes
to the front panel connector:...
--
Best wishes,

Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)






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Re: hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Hi Steve

?

You say the front panel connector is not just a feed through, it has a DC block built into it ?

This is new to me is this only for the 3.5 mm or for all including the N types

Alternatively is it to protect the attenuator

?

Paul

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve - Home
Sent: 14 April 2020 14:19
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] hp8350b/hp83595a front panel mod

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Hi Jan,

The semi-rigid is standard .141 with precision stainless steel SMA connectors. It is L-shaped with a bit of an offset in the leg that goes to the front panel connector:

Please note that the front panel connector is not just a feedthrough, it has a DC block built into it. If you substitute a straight bulkhead connector you lose that DC protection. I would recommend removing the rear panel connector and using it instead. You can always revert to rear panel output if you need to. There's precious little room in the plug in to add a relay to allow switching back and forth. If you use your 3.5mm bulkhead connector I'd recommend a connector saver and an external DC block. Better yet go to an SMA bulkhead connector instead of the 3.5mm as I'd bet you'll be using SMA for everything else as 3.5mm connectors are expensive and fragile.

Since you will be mating 3.5mm to SMA do be aware that those connections should be torqued to 5 in/lb, .57 N/m, not the usual SMA to SMA or 3.5 to 3.5 value of 8 in/lb, .9 N/m

If amplitude accuracy needs to be within specs you'll need to do an RF amplitude calibration once everything is in place as you've made changes to the RF output path.

Good luck with the project and let us know how it goes. I've switched an 8340B from rear to front panel output but my 83595A's came with front panel output so I've not needed to modify them.

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Cheers,

Steve K.

WB?DBS

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On 4/13/2020 11:27 AM, Jan de Jongh wrote:

Hi all,

I'm trying to get my RF output on the front panel instead of at the rear on an hp83595a (26.5 GHz), while leaving the rear-panel option intact. I already have the front-panel connector from ebay and need to make a semi-rigid with 3.5mm connectors to (I guess, need to verify) the 55 dB attenuator.

Does anyone know what type of semi-rigid is used by HP in the hp83595a for the RF output and/or has suggestions for sourcing the connectors? (Sorry, complete semi-rigid noob here...) BTW, the front-panel connector I have is an APC3.5 feed through.

Thanks,
Jan

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