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Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

Is there a local TV station with an investigative reporter? If the group gets mentioned on the new for tis policy, they will pay attention. I would also contact any state medical licensing board.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 4:18 PM Richard R. Pope <mechanic_2@...> wrote:
Doctor Speck,
??? The problem is is that I live in a semi-rural area and the next closet provider is 15 miles away. My disability precludes me from wearing a mask but my doctor has entered in to my medical records that I must wear one so they won't allow me in the building. They are denying me medical service because of my disability. I have talked to ADA but they say that medical groups are exempted from complying. I don't know what to do. This is a death sentence.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 9/16/2020 1:22 PM, David Speck wrote:

Richard,

Then it's time to find a different medical provider.? There are lots of different ones out there.

David D; Speck MD

On 9/16/2020 2:07 PM, Richard R. Pope wrote:
Paul,
??? I appreciate it. The hard part is that I can't get medical care. I am being refuse by my provider.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 9/16/2020 9:05 AM, paulswed wrote:
I had seen the S-100 mention and figured it was something else I did not know. The Altair was my first boxed computer about 1975-6?
It is indeed one and the same. :-)
Rich sorry to?hear the reason for getting rid of everything.
Regards
Paul



Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

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Doctor Speck,
??? The problem is is that I live in a semi-rural area and the next closet provider is 15 miles away. My disability precludes me from wearing a mask but my doctor has entered in to my medical records that I must wear one so they won't allow me in the building. They are denying me medical service because of my disability. I have talked to ADA but they say that medical groups are exempted from complying. I don't know what to do. This is a death sentence.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 9/16/2020 1:22 PM, David Speck wrote:

Richard,

Then it's time to find a different medical provider.? There are lots of different ones out there.

David D; Speck MD

On 9/16/2020 2:07 PM, Richard R. Pope wrote:
Paul,
??? I appreciate it. The hard part is that I can't get medical care. I am being refuse by my provider.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 9/16/2020 9:05 AM, paulswed wrote:
I had seen the S-100 mention and figured it was something else I did not know. The Altair was my first boxed computer about 1975-6?
It is indeed one and the same. :-)
Rich sorry to?hear the reason for getting rid of everything.
Regards
Paul



Re: OT: Looking for recommendations on 3D modeling software

Sandra Carroll
 

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Note what it says
Export from a sketch?
This is not a 3d model being exported for printing

Sandra

7 Plus

On Sep 16, 2020, at 1:40 PM, David Holland <david.w.holland@...> wrote:

?
No, of course not.? ?

I figured (hoped) they were content just having visibility into your data.? ? (Personal use, I don't care if they know I made a 5x5x19mm homemade standoff to be 3D printed.)

I have no intention of giving them (effective) ownership as well.

<Adds Autodesk to the "list">


On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:26 PM Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:
On 9/16/20 1:24 PM, David Holland wrote:
> Speaking of Fusion360..
>
>
>
> The elimination of export options (STL particularly) makes it appear
> AutoDesk?want?sto hold onto your data, and be the only tool you can
> use..? (And will be the reason I uninstall it.)

? ?This is, of course, why such services exist.? I hope nobody actually
thought it was some high-minded civic thinking that motivated Autodesk
to offer that service to the public.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA






Re: OT: old computers, was Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

Dave,
I would like to get my money back out of it.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 9/16/2020 11:50 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 9/16/20 2:47 AM, Daniel Nelson wrote:
Wow...S-100....
Need any Northstar Horizons or Altair Attache's
We do quite a bit of S-100 stuff at LSSM, if you're looking to offload it to a good home.

-Dave


Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

Very sorry to hear that!? I've had family members denied care by insurance companies too.? I'd love to see them abolished so we can go straight to the care providers.

-Dave

On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 11:07:56 AM PDT, Richard R. Pope <mechanic_2@...> wrote:


Paul,
??? I appreciate it. The hard part is that I can't get medical care. I am being refuse by my provider.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 9/16/2020 9:05 AM, paulswed wrote:

I had seen the S-100 mention and figured it was something else I did not know. The Altair was my first boxed computer about 1975-6?
It is indeed one and the same. :-)
Rich sorry to?hear the reason for getting rid of everything.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

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Richard,

Then it's time to find a different medical provider.? There are lots of different ones out there.

David D; Speck MD

On 9/16/2020 2:07 PM, Richard R. Pope wrote:

Paul,
??? I appreciate it. The hard part is that I can't get medical care. I am being refuse by my provider.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 9/16/2020 9:05 AM, paulswed wrote:
I had seen the S-100 mention and figured it was something else I did not know. The Altair was my first boxed computer about 1975-6?
It is indeed one and the same. :-)
Rich sorry to?hear the reason for getting rid of everything.
Regards
Paul


Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

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Paul,
??? I appreciate it. The hard part is that I can't get medical care. I am being refuse by my provider.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 9/16/2020 9:05 AM, paulswed wrote:

I had seen the S-100 mention and figured it was something else I did not know. The Altair was my first boxed computer about 1975-6?
It is indeed one and the same. :-)
Rich sorry to?hear the reason for getting rid of everything.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


Re: OT: Looking for recommendations on 3D modeling software

 

No, of course not.? ?

I figured (hoped) they were content just having visibility into your data.? ? (Personal use, I don't care if they know I made a 5x5x19mm homemade standoff to be 3D printed.)

I have no intention of giving them (effective) ownership as well.

<Adds Autodesk to the "list">


On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:26 PM Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:
On 9/16/20 1:24 PM, David Holland wrote:
> Speaking of Fusion360..
>
>
>
> The elimination of export options (STL particularly) makes it appear
> AutoDesk?want?sto hold onto your data, and be the only tool you can
> use..? (And will be the reason I uninstall it.)

? ?This is, of course, why such services exist.? I hope nobody actually
thought it was some high-minded civic thinking that motivated Autodesk
to offer that service to the public.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA






Re: Is the preamp power connector on HP10855A available?

 

You can modify a 3 pin Binder 719 to fit
uk.rs-online.com/web/p/industrial-circular-connectors/0464397?
You have to cut off the key "lug" and part of the round section to leave a D shape. It's soft plastic and easy to cut with a sharp knife.

Robert G8RPI.


Re: OT: Looking for recommendations on 3D modeling software

 

On 9/16/20 1:24 PM, David Holland wrote:
Speaking of Fusion360..

The elimination of export options (STL particularly) makes it appear AutoDesk?want?sto hold onto your data, and be the only tool you can use..? (And will be the reason I uninstall it.)
This is, of course, why such services exist. I hope nobody actually thought it was some high-minded civic thinking that motivated Autodesk to offer that service to the public.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: OT: Looking for recommendations on 3D modeling software

 

Speaking of Fusion360..



The elimination of export options (STL particularly) makes it appear AutoDesk?want?sto hold onto your data, and be the only tool you can use..? (And will be the reason I uninstall it.)?

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 10:01 AM Sandra Carroll <smgvbest@...> wrote:
I¡¯m surprised no one has mention fusion360. Full CAD/CAM with Eagle now as well.
3D parametric, direct manufacture to 3D printers. I send to both simplify3D and chitubox all the time.

Easy to use. Still no cost to makers.

On open source
Some comments.? I¡¯ve run into countless projects that die or are abandoned in the opensource community.? Yeh some of the big stay around but far greater go nowhere.

Opensource is not this great pancea of perfection.? If your not a developer yourself you can only hope they¡¯ll accept your proposal for a change.? Personal experience is they don¡¯t always do this.? In fact in my experience they rarely do.? It does not fit the authors vision of how it should work.

I love Perl. But the community refused for the longest time to accept ebcdic(mainframe) into the their world.? And only did by making it ascii internally which has its own problems for those of us in the mainframe.

I¡¯m not against opensource, I use it all the time. Like anything it has it¡¯s upside and downside.

Sandra

7 Plus

> On Sep 8, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Chuck Harris <cfharris@...> wrote:
>
> ?Bear in mind that one of the features of open source projects
> is they really never go away.? Commercial projects come and vanish,
> and change their licensing terms with great regularity.
>
> OpenSCAD is used by dozens of other projects, and is a very solid
> package.? The source is available on github, and if you don't like
> the direction the authors are going, you can take it and make it
> your way.? Sure, if you aren't talented that way, you will have to
> hire it done, but that is what you are already doing with the outright
> commercial packages... without any hope of customization.
>
> If OpenSCAD is too hard to learn (it isn't), you can use one of the
> many packages, like FreeCAD, that have incorporated it into their
> graphic interfaces.
>
> We greybeards remember the PC so well, that we wrote GNU and linux
> for it, and emancipated ourselves from Microsoft.
>
> Educator licenses are available to universities to allow them to
> train their kiddies on the package at no cost to the university.
>
> The university professor gives a 1 year copy to each student, and
> they use it for their course work.? At the end of the year, it is
> inactivated.
>
> The companies do that because it is free advertising, and a free
> beta testing of their product.? They also know that once trained on
> a product, students will ask for it where they work.
>
> That is the sole and only reason Apple and Microsoft have such nice
> licensing terms for K-12 schools.
>
> Also, to use a student license, usually you are required to show
> registration at a university.? The rules on student licenses are
> highly restrictive relative to commercial intention.? A product
> designed on a student license cannot ever be commercialized without
> transferring it to a full on commercial seat... at typically $50K a
> seat... and once there, it can never be brought back to a student
> seat.
>
> -Chuck Harris
>
> Tom Gardner wrote:
>> Overall I doubt that members of this group will want to make anything really complex,
>> but they might like it to be available to other members in a decade or so. So have a
>> quick look and choose any tool that feels comfortable without a large learning curve.
>>
>> After a///very//quick look/, it appears that OnShape is....
>>
>> Free for "educators", with a 1 year time limit on the licence - whatever that means.
>>
>> Online only, running in a browser like OpenJSCAD. The standard questions with any
>> "cloud service" are whether:
>>
>>? * it will be there in 5 years time; see Microsoft PlaysForSure(TM), and giggle
>>? * the licence conditions can be changed, e.g. is the company/product changes ownership
>>
>> Greybeards will remember the sighs of relief when PCs became available, because it
>> meant that users' data was not "held hostage" inside silos owned by other companies.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 08/09/20 02:54, Kuba Ober wrote:
>>> OnShape - as long as it¡¯s not for commercial purposes - all your projects are
>>> publicly viewable then. A joy to use. All it needs is an OK internet connection and
>>> a supported web browser.
>>>
>>> FreeCAD is another option.
>>>
>>>> 7 sep. 2020 kl. 10:17 fm skrev victor.silva via
>>>> <daejon1=[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>> ?This is off topic but the end result will be for HP products so please bear with me.
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for recommendation on 3D modeling software (preferably freeware) and
>>>> a company that I can then send the 3D model to
>>>> make a battery holder clamshells.? I propose to make half clamshell pieces that
>>>> would then make a complete
>>>> battery holder by using 2 pieces that would fit together.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Victor
>>
>>
>
>
>




OT: old computers, was Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

On 9/16/20 2:47 AM, Daniel Nelson wrote:
Wow...S-100....
Need any Northstar Horizons or Altair Attache's
We do quite a bit of S-100 stuff at LSSM, if you're looking to offload it to a good home.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: HP 3325A power supply repair

 

Yeah, I was just learning about active filters at the time. Switched-capacitor designs were a bit like black magic to me. :) Neat chip, though.

-Dave

On 9/15/20 11:57 PM, Mike Feher wrote:
Yes Dave, I can see how it can seem to be complex to a teenager. At the time I was in my late 30¡¯s and all I had to do was come up with the transfer functions for the filters that I wanted. In the late 60¡¯s for my senior project for my undergraduate EE degree I built a switched capacitor filter using discrete logic. Regards ¨C Mike
Mike B. Feher, N4FS
89 Arnold Blvd.
Howell NJ 07731
848-245-9115
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair
?? They weren't THAT obscure.? Radio Shack sold them in blister packs back in the day.? I put one on a breadboard when I was a teen just to mess with...definitely complex but it sure was neat to study.
????????????? -Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

Meanwell makes some pretty good-quality PSUs, but in some of the less-expensive ones there can be some quality control issues.? And they're HQ'd in Taiwan, so depending on the ownership (I have no idea), supporting them might actually be against the CCP's wishes.? That said, there are plenty of US-based PSU manufacturers with high quality designs - who mostly design here but manufacture offshore as well - to choose from.? They're just often not in distributorship so it takes a bit more effort to find them, and costs a bit more.?


Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

Somewhere I have a full case of 24 new +5 and +/-15 volt supplies that were tossed at Microdyne after they dropped support for an older model. They are American made, and vry reliable. They were purchased for production, then shifted t repair when production ended. Unlike a Vicor series of power supplies that caused us a lot of warranty work, and costs. Of course, the board that failed in them was in a well in the cast aluminum body that was filled with epoxy.
Does anyone know the current required for each rail? I have three 3325A with missing power supply boards, and a couple more that may not be worth repairing. These supplies should fit inside the case. I don't have the datasheet at hand, It is on a storage system that still has no power available after the recent open neutral.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:14 AM Tam Hanna <tamhan@...> wrote:

Hello Folks,

sorry for making a nuissance of myself, but I have heard of similar substitutions being done.


I know of a fact that someone at EEVblog used a set of Mean Well PSUs on a 53310A. My ex lab gypsy swears her hands that a friend of her did something similar to a Danaher AWG2021 (two channel model) which the friend did not want to give up on.


IMHO, it is possible. But most of these conversions I have seen had the Mean Well bricks outside, as a sort of "power system", and only a small box with LC filters inside the TMI. Also, the usual caveats apply:

Mean Well is probably the most faked brand of PSU in the world...


Tam

With best regards
Tam HANNA 

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On 2020. 09. 16. 4:24, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Has anyone ever tried installing a switching supply in a 3325A/B?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:22 PM Mike Feher <n4fs@...> wrote:

Hi Kuba ¨C

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Well I guess this is off topic, but I am surprised someone even recognized the MF10. I had to be on the phone with the National design engineers as I was blowing them up. They told me that on the early ones I had to sequence the power on them. They eventually put out a little book on the part. They sent me a preliminary copy. I used them to design elliptic filters since in those I can have control of where the zeroes go and they have the best or narrowest transition band. They worked great and we provided a couple of them to the Navy. BTW, your books are still waiting for you. Regards ¨C Mike

?

Mike B. Feher, N4FS

89 Arnold Blvd.

Howell NJ 07731

848-245-9115

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kuba Ober
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair

?

Oh wow - MF10. What a cool part! I used it in various instrumentation jobs. Another one that I still use is the switched cap building block LTC1043 ¨C it did things that were thard to do otherwise, but opamps got really good these days so it finds only niche use. But when you need it - it¡¯s great.

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Cheers, Kuba



15 sep. 2020 kl. 2:18 em skrev Mike Feher <n4fs@...>:

?

I purchased a brand new 3325A from HP back in 1983 or so for a company where I was director of Engineering. I was designing switched capacitor digital filters then using the National MF10 devices. Regardless after I resigned from that company, their engineering dept. dissolved and they called me and asked if I wanted to buy the TE that now they were no longer using. Sure, I bought a truckload for $1000 including the 3325A. The generator worked flawlessly for years and then started having problems. I eventually had to look inside it and found a manufacturing problem. There was an inline Molex style connector from the PS to the rest of the gen. One of the contacts was not crimped well enough and over years of high resistance overheating, melted the connector. Lucky for me, a simple fix. Regards ¨C Mike

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Mike B. Feher, N4FS

89 Arnold Blvd.

Howell NJ 07731

848-245-9115

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Re: Is the preamp power connector on HP10855A available?

 

Szabolcs, do a search on this forum for "probe power".

Vladan


Re: OT: BNC to WHAT?!

 

This is known as the HLN9756, and it is used to be able to service the now discontinued PRO/HT series of portable radios from Motorola as it allows to connect the radio antenna port to the test equipment. There are two versions of these adapters, one that has a conical shaped tip, and the one shown that has the rounded tip. The conical tip should only be used with older serial number radios, and the other with newer radios. Problem was that Motorola changed supplier of the antenna connector sometime during the production run of these radios. Motorola always said that using the wrong adapter tip on a radio that requires the other type might damage the connector on the radio, but I have been using a single tip for all radio repairs over the course of many years and never had any problems. Guess if one is careful, no damage will be done. Still use the adapter now and then, as some customers still have these older radios in service.


Is the preamp power connector on HP10855A available?

 

Hi,

Is there a part number for the power connector on the 10855A preamp? The one that plugs into the preamp power socket on the 5335A for example. The manual for the pream only lists the assembly with the cable as part no 10855-60100, but not the separate plug.

Is this connector available at all from some manufacturer? I'd like to build a preamp for the C channel, as the 10855A is only available for outrageous price on eBay. It would be nice to have a direct replacement instead using the probe power connector.

Szabolcs


Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

I had seen the S-100 mention and figured it was something else I did not know. The Altair was my first boxed computer about 1975-6?
It is indeed one and the same. :-)
Rich sorry to?hear the reason for getting rid of everything.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


Re: Mean Well, etc, PSUs - was(Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 3325A power supply repair)

 

I've had good results with Mean Well power supplies. It's the default
for me when I need an inexpensive, relatively high quality PSU for a
project. Agreed that there are fake ones though. If the price is too
good to be true it probably is...

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 03:08, Wilko Bulte <wkb@...> wrote:

By now that means you should not be buying computers, phones etc. Everything but the kitchen sink is produced in China these days.

Anyway, way OT, lets get back to our beloved T&M kit..

Wilko