-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:HP-Agilent-Keysight-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 1:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8566B Battery warning and
broken tabs

I am not so sure about the recharging. As I remember, these are
PRIMARY batteries and are NOT rechargeable.

I have not (recently) looked at the 8566 schematics, but in the 8340,
there is no recharging path for the battery.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:HP-Agilent-Keysight-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 1:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8566B Battery warning and
broken tabs

I am not so sure about the recharging. As I remember, these are
PRIMARY batteries and are NOT rechargeable.

I have not (recently) looked at the 8566 schematics, but in the 8340,
there is no recharging path for the battery.

Those batteries will run down in a few days if unit is not plugged in to power mains. It is just there to support stored setups. Instrument cal data is not affected.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of DW
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 2:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8566B Battery warning and broken tabs

This is happening now each time the instrument is plugged in the Battery indicator flashes on the screen.

I pulled out the A14 controller board on the RF section, the battery appears to be a Tadiran TL5104 3.6V battery, looks like a AA sized battery. I measured the voltage of the battery and found it was 0 volts. I see they are still selling these and plan to buy one with the leads attached. No signs of leakage, I have no idea how old this battery is



Any ideas where to get replacement tabs for A14 front panel interface? I had one break and a few others are ready to break as well.

?

This is happening now each time the instrument is plugged in the Battery indicator flashes on the screen.

I pulled out the A14 controller board on the RF section, the battery appears to be a Tadiran TL5104 3.6V battery, looks like a AA sized battery. I measured the voltage of the battery and found it was 0 volts. I see they are still selling these and plan to buy one with the leads attached. No signs of leakage, I have no idea how old this battery is



Any ideas where to get replacement tabs for A14 front panel interface? I had one break and a few others are ready to break as well.

What sort of quantities of the IC's are you talking about?


On 27/01/22 17:19, Dave McGuire wrote:

Wow, yes that does indeed suck.

But if it's any consolation, it's no longer easy for us over here
in the US either. Well, axial capacitors are easy, but that's about
it. Just about everything else is months out, at best. Many
components are seeing delivery date quotes of mid-2023 into 2024.

I make my living designing specialized boards (usually) for
instrumentation, and then supplying small production runs of those
boards. I am now sitting on three customer purchase orders that I
cannot deliver due to component shortages. On one of my boards, 10
of the 12 ICs won't be available for more than a year.

Those three orders would've kept my family fed for most of 2022.
This literally translates to zero income for my family, so we have
very tough times ahead.

The suits have been allowed to turn the supply chains into a big
house of cards, and now we're screwed. Normally I'd never advocate
government meddling in business, but it seems that's what we need,
because the businesses won't behave themselves.

-Dave

Typically 100-300.

-Dave

On 1/26/22 11:29 PM, Andy ZL3AG via groups.io wrote:

What sort of quantities of the IC's are you talking about?


On 27/01/22 17:19, Dave McGuire wrote:

Wow, yes that does indeed suck.

But if it's any consolation, it's no longer easy for us over here
in the US either. Well, axial capacitors are easy, but that's about
it. Just about everything else is months out, at best. Many
components are seeing delivery date quotes of mid-2023 into 2024.

I make my living designing specialized boards (usually) for
instrumentation, and then supplying small production runs of those
boards. I am now sitting on three customer purchase orders that I
cannot deliver due to component shortages. On one of my boards, 10 of
the 12 ICs won't be available for more than a year.

Those three orders would've kept my family fed for most of 2022.
This literally translates to zero income for my family, so we have
very tough times ahead.

The suits have been allowed to turn the supply chains into a big
house of cards, and now we're screwed. Normally I'd never advocate
government meddling in business, but it seems that's what we need,
because the businesses won't behave themselves.

-Dave

On 1/26/22 10:31 PM, David Hopkins wrote:

Toby,
Problem is this country.
Electronic components are in scarce supply.
The big suppliers here can't even supply a Raspberry Pi mod 3+
Stating several months before delivery.

Fine on Digikey but freight from the USA is very high.

David


On 2022-01-27 12:44 pm, Toby wrote:

On 2022-01-26 9:29 p.m., Dave McGuire wrote:

On 1/26/22 9:00 PM, David Hopkins wrote:

Another problem was the filter capacitors for the supply. Both are
axial 560uF electros. Cannot find them here so used a couple of
1000uF ones.
Again another problem. You can't get axial electros any more so
had to make a couple from PCB mount types.

"Can't get" axial electrolytic capacitors? Well thank goodness
THAT isn't true.

I checked Digikey and they have just one part# of 560?F axial
electrolytics from qty 1, rated 40V. & I didn't have trouble getting
axials for a Tek 602 refurb recently. Don't know how long that
situation will persist so stocking up could be wise.

But David is in Australia, apparently - so presumably he's referring
to local resellers...

--Toby

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

What sort of quantities of the IC's are you talking about?
On 27/01/22 17:19, Dave McGuire wrote:

?? Wow, yes that does indeed suck.

?? But if it's any consolation, it's no longer easy for us over here in the US either.? Well, axial capacitors are easy, but that's about it. Just about everything else is months out, at best.? Many components are seeing delivery date quotes of mid-2023 into 2024.

?? I make my living designing specialized boards (usually) for instrumentation, and then supplying small production runs of those boards.? I am now sitting on three customer purchase orders that I cannot deliver due to component shortages.? On one of my boards, 10 of the 12 ICs won't be available for more than a year.

?? Those three orders would've kept my family fed for most of 2022. This literally translates to zero income for my family, so we have very tough times ahead.

?? The suits have been allowed to turn the supply chains into a big house of cards, and now we're screwed.? Normally I'd never advocate government meddling in business, but it seems that's what we need, because the businesses won't behave themselves.

??????????? -Dave

On 1/26/22 10:31 PM, David Hopkins wrote:

Toby,
Problem is this country.
Electronic components are in scarce supply.
The big suppliers here can't even supply a Raspberry Pi mod 3+
Stating several months before delivery.

Fine on Digikey but freight from the USA is very high.

David


On 2022-01-27 12:44 pm, Toby wrote:

On 2022-01-26 9:29 p.m., Dave McGuire wrote:

On 1/26/22 9:00 PM, David Hopkins wrote:

Another problem was the filter capacitors for the supply. Both are axial 560uF electros. Cannot find them here so used a couple of 1000uF ones.
Again another problem. You can't get axial electros any more so had to make a couple from PCB mount types.

?? "Can't get" axial electrolytic capacitors?? Well thank goodness THAT isn't true.

I checked Digikey and they have just one part# of 560?F axial electrolytics from qty 1, rated 40V. & I didn't have trouble getting axials for a Tek 602 refurb recently. Don't know how long that situation will persist so stocking up could be wise.

But David is in Australia, apparently - so presumably he's referring to local resellers...

--Toby

??????????? -Dave

? Wow, yes that does indeed suck.
? But if it's any consolation, it's no longer easy for us over here in the US either.? Well, axial capacitors are easy, but that's about it. Just about everything else is months out, at best.? Many components are seeing delivery date quotes of mid-2023 into 2024.
? I make my living designing specialized boards (usually) for instrumentation, and then supplying small production runs of those boards.? I am now sitting on three customer purchase orders that I cannot deliver due to component shortages.? On one of my boards, 10 of the 12 ICs won't be available for more than a year.
? Those three orders would've kept my family fed for most of 2022. This literally translates to zero income for my family, so we have very tough times ahead.
? The suits have been allowed to turn the supply chains into a big house of cards, and now we're screwed.? Normally I'd never advocate government meddling in business, but it seems that's what we need, because the businesses won't behave themselves.
?????????? -Dave
On 1/26/22 10:31 PM, David Hopkins wrote:

Toby,
Problem is this country.
Electronic components are in scarce supply.
The big suppliers here can't even supply a Raspberry Pi mod 3+
Stating several months before delivery.

Fine on Digikey but freight from the USA is very high.

David


On 2022-01-27 12:44 pm, Toby wrote:

On 2022-01-26 9:29 p.m., Dave McGuire wrote:

On 1/26/22 9:00 PM, David Hopkins wrote:

Another problem was the filter capacitors for the supply. Both are axial 560uF electros. Cannot find them here so used a couple of 1000uF ones.
Again another problem. You can't get axial electros any more so had to make a couple from PCB mount types.

?? "Can't get" axial electrolytic capacitors?? Well thank goodness THAT isn't true.

I checked Digikey and they have just one part# of 560?F axial electrolytics from qty 1, rated 40V. & I didn't have trouble getting axials for a Tek 602 refurb recently. Don't know how long that situation will persist so stocking up could be wise.

But David is in Australia, apparently - so presumably he's referring to local resellers...

--Toby

??????????? -Dave