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Re: HP 6012B volt zero and current regulation

 

Hi

In my experience most bench power supplies show a similar behaviour. ?At one time I suffered repeated damage to equipment that was powered from a bench supply, when checked with a storage scope it went to a high voltage on turn on before settling back to the set voltage.

I still think that for valid measurements you cannot use a light bulb, they are NOT a linear devices if you do an applied voltage plot against observed resistance, from a sixtey year old memory of an experiment they are square law devices

73 George G6HIG ??



On Monday, August 20, 2018 5:50 PM, "wilson2115@..." <wilson2115@...> wrote:


I refined my test...
Instead of ramping the voltage with the knob. I basically set the voltage to 20V and the amperage to 2 amps. I connected the voltmeter in series with the bulb and performed a dynamic load test by opening and closing the circuit by touching the probe lead of the voltmeter to the output of the power supply... I also have the Fluke voltmeter set to peak amperage measurement and these are the results that I found.

With the 6012B set to 20V and 2A, upon closing the circuit the peak amps are 4 amps but quickly settles to 2 amps
With the 6024A set to 20V and 2 A, upon closing the circuit the peaks amps are about 2.5 but quickly settles to 2 amps.

The important observation here is the 6012B settles back to 2 amps, it seems the settle time is longer and the deviation is larger than the 6024A. Although these are two completely different supplies. If anything I could be nit picking here on the 6012B for its regulation settle time and overshoot, which is why I wanted to see if someone else had a similar supply and could see if they could duplicate the same results to see if this is normal...

Thanks for the help



Re: HP 6012B volt zero and current regulation

 

I refined my test...
Instead of ramping the voltage with the knob. I basically set the voltage to 20V and the amperage to 2 amps. I connected the voltmeter in series with the bulb and performed a dynamic load test by opening and closing the circuit by touching the probe lead of the voltmeter to the output of the power supply... I also have the Fluke voltmeter set to peak amperage measurement and these are the results that I found.

With the 6012B set to 20V and 2A, upon closing the circuit the peak amps are 4 amps but quickly settles to 2 amps
With the 6024A set to 20V and 2 A, upon closing the circuit the peaks amps are about 2.5 but quickly settles to 2 amps.

The important observation here is the 6012B settles back to 2 amps, it seems the settle time is longer and the deviation is larger than the 6024A. Although these are two completely different supplies. If anything I could be nit picking here on the 6012B for its regulation settle time and overshoot, which is why I wanted to see if someone else had a similar supply and could see if they could duplicate the same results to see if this is normal...

Thanks for the help


Great move

 

Sincerely,

James L. Hudson
WA5JAT


Re: 8566B SA all PLLs unlocked

 

Hello Calvin,
did you check the 6 power resistors? It did happen to me that a broken one on A1A6 once killed an opamp in the IF/display unit.
best regards,
Peter


so glad to be here!

walter shawlee
 

many thanks to those that moved the group, I hope our new home proves to be a good one.
all the best,

walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca
sphere research corp.


Re: A huge thank you!

 

Thanks for the smooth move!


On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 6:32 AM Keith Monahan via Groups.Io <keith=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks indeed!

I guess there was no problem at all transferring messages?

I scraped the group awhile ago when I thought yahoo might disappear. No
jails, no throttling, no VPN required. It just worked. I think it was a
little slow, maybe overnight for 88K messages.

Glad to see you had no troubles!

Thanks again!
Keith

On 8/20/2018 9:08 AM, James Allen wrote:
> Ditto from me Dave!!!
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> Jim
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Re: Welcome to [email protected]

 

very nice and smooth :-)
congratulations!


Re: A huge thank you!

 

Thanks indeed!

I guess there was no problem at all transferring messages?

I scraped the group awhile ago when I thought yahoo might disappear. No jails, no throttling, no VPN required. It just worked. I think it was a little slow, maybe overnight for 88K messages.

Glad to see you had no troubles!

Thanks again!
Keith

On 8/20/2018 9:08 AM, James Allen wrote:
Ditto from me Dave!!!
Jim


Re: A huge thank you!

 

Can't imagine seeing too many thank you messages. Free at last!
Thanks Dave and others!

Raymond


Re: A huge thank you!

James Allen
 

Ditto from me Dave!!!

Jim


A huge thank you!

 

To Dave and everyone involved for a pretty seamless move to our new home!


The migration of Yahoo -> groups.io is now complete

Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
 

Hi all,
The transfer should be complete. If you have not taken a look, take a look of the homepage of the group at /g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment I received the email (partiall copied below) from groups.io, saying what had happened, and what had not.

Dave

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Re: HP8569B CRT Jitter.

 

All sorted, just the broken switches to address now.

Alan, GI0OTC?


Re: migration test message

 

+1 ;)

First topic ever on the group?
Have all the yahoo topics been copied to for searching the archives?

Virus-free.

2018-08-20 9:54 GMT+02:00 Leo Kroonenburg <castellcorunas@...>:

Ok here



Re: OK ....

 

Works fine!
Thanks!


Re: Welcome to [email protected]

 

Excellent move Sir.

Nice move.

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Re: migration test message

 

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