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Re: HP 8551 Spectrum Analyzer FS or trade?
Howdy. ? Nope, only one RF unit covering the range from 0.01 - 12.4 GHz (and higher with external mixers), in multiple bands.
Some of the 8551 units had a mixer diode that could be replaced via the front panel. ?This one does not. I suspect it's the 8552/3/4/5/6 you are thinking of. Dan ________________________________ From: Max Robinson <max@...> To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 8551 Spectrum Analyzer FS or trade? ? Hi Daniel. If I remember correctly, and more and more lately I don't, the 8551 came with different front end modules for different frequency coverage's. What is the frequency range of yours? If it fits my needs I would be willing to pay for professional packing and the shipping charges to get it. Regards. Max. K 4 O DS. Email: max@... Transistor site Vacuum tube site: Woodworking site Music site: To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscribe@... To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscribe@... To subscribe to the fun with wood group send a blank email to funwithwood-subscribe@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Koller" <kaboomdk@...> To: <hp_agilent_equipment@...> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 8551 Spectrum Analyzer FS or trade? Hi folks, Is there really ZERO interest in an HP 8551 spectrum analyzer? Given that I didn't even get any comments from this usually vocal group, and having found some replies to older posts that went into my spam folder, I figured I'd just ask again (copied below). Perhaps a few more people are back from the holidays as well. Please do let me know if the group consensus is that this thing is really just a useless boat anchor even by vintage instrument standards. Thanks and have a happy new year! Dan ________________________________ From: kaboomdk <kaboomdk@...> To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 12:48 PM Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 8551 Spectrum Analyzer FS or trade? Hello all, I have an HP 8551 spectrum analyzer I would like to offer for sale or trade. It works reasonably well, as I describe in more detail below, but I am starting to upgrade my home shop with more "modern" equipment. Cosmetically, the unit is clean, with some sticker residue on the display units. It comes complete with all the necessary interconnecting cables and the oval power cords. It weighs a TON. The RF unit alone is 90 lbs, so I can't really ship it, even in parts. However, I live in Charlottesville, VA, and I frequently travel up the north-east corridor, so if you live anywhere between here and Burlington, VT, I am willing to deliver if you can wait until March or so. Otherwise, perhaps we can make arrangements. Some photos are posted here: 851_1.jpg A screen shot of the analyzer showing the FM band with a dangling wire antenna and the input attenuator at 0 dB. Harmonic n=1. LO signal on left. 851_2.jpg A 1 dBm, 2.4 GHz signal at the input with RF attenuation set to 30 dB. n=2. 851_3.jpg Same signal displayed on band 4, which uses the 200 MHz IF, n=1. 851_4.jpg The FM band again, displayed on the orange-screened 851B. I would prefer not to part this instrument out, and to send all of it to a good, loving home. Please make me an offer. I don't have a good feel for price of this instrument particularly since shipping would normally be a dominant part of the cost. Alternatively I am willing to trade for any of the instruments below, in working or *repairable* condition. Of the highest interest are any of the 141T SA plug-ins listed. Any 8554/8555/8556 SA plug-ins for a 141T based spectrum analyzer, preferably in grey paint. 182T mainframe any 11664 A or B detectors a 8755C swept amplitude analyzer a sweeper covering ~MHz to ~2.5 GHz. So, if interested, please contact me off-list and let's discuss. Thanks and Happy Holidays! Dan 851B/8551B Spectrum analyzer. ---------------------------- 8551B: SN 625-00695 (RF unit) 851B: SN 526-00805 (Orange screen) 851B: SN 526-00339 (spare unit) What works: Mixer, at least at n=1, n=2 and n=3. I don't have sources to test higher harmonics. RF input attenuator Stabilized fine tune - with some care Trace centering is fine at or below 1 mc/cm, alowing one to quickly zoom in on a signal. Both 851B display units, with sharp and bright traces. Fine and course tuning Frequency vernier What doesn't work: Trace centering on the 3-300 MC/cm scales. The signal jumps around when switching scales, though it can still be tuned. I can't follow the manual procedure in section 3-34 to set the spectrum centering adjustment on the front panel. The tracking meter does not respond as it should. As a result, LO scale pointer is ~100 MC off on scales at or below the 1 mc/cm sweep and varies on the 3-300 mc/cm scales. May need to reglue the scale drum at some point, but it's ok for now The orange plastic filter in one of the 851s has cracks in it in the lower left corner just off scale. The tune knob had it's handle broken off, but I kept the original parts and was able to epoxy together a decent looking reconstruction, so it works now and looks ok. I can't figure out if the signal identifier works. It's supposed to shift the signal by n cm at 100 KC/cm, which it does, but when you press the "reference" knob, it should revert to the n=1 state. But instead the trace keeps moving off screen. I suspect this is related to the issues at large spans. What you get: A functional piece of history - the first calibrated spectrum analyzer from HP. A basic, working spectrum analyzer All interconnecting cables and oval power cords One ORIGINAL PAPER MANUAL for the 851B display section A spare 851B display unit (the orange one was originally paired with the 8551, judging from the stickers) Satisfaction of working with a wonderful instrument Herniated disks What you don't get: Any of the sources shown in the pictures The instrument rack, though that can be negotiated separately The 50 Ohm terminator on the back at the LO output. I only have a few of these and I need them, however it seems to work ok without it at the few frequencies I looked at. Paper manuals for the 8551B section - but these are available on-line. The right to return the instrument Medical insurance [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Help in identifying 5083-9025
Norman Thompson
Hello,
I'm hoping a list member can help. I have what looks like a new CRT tube in its original box. The HP part number is 5083-9025 and it has a rectangular face. I had thought that it was for a 141 spectrum analyzer but I cannot find that part number used with a 141. Can anyone tell me the original use for the 5083-9025 tube? Thanks in advance. Regards, Norman |
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Re: HP 11660A Shunt for HP 8556A
Hello Steve,
even using resistors of utmost precision you would neither obtain a 600 ohms input resistance (= load resistance for the TG) nor a 50 ohms output resistance (= source resistance for the 50 ohms load). You may verify this fact by terminating the output into 50 ohms and measuring the resulting input resistance (which will be 575 ohms). Terminating the input into 600 ohms (= source resistance of the TG) will yield a source resistance of approx. 47.916666 ohms for the load. Regards Martin |
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Re: DIY: Repair of HP Step Attenuators
On 12/29/2012 12:51 AM, ffierling wrote:
bad connection(s) to the solenoid winding? --doug |
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Re: 3562A Analyzer
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I did replace the backup cell, in fact one of the first things I did. I'll check the battery again and also make sure I didn't move the jumper to the test (disconnected) header pins while I was testing the unit Thanks Chuck On 12/29/2012 12:47 AM, Ron Wilkinson wrote:
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Re: DIY: Repair of HP Step Attenuators
The drive voltage is nominal under load.
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Are you suggesting I compare the coil resistance to a known good device? By what mechanism would the coil resistance increase - metal fatigue? Fred --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Bob Albert <bob91343@...> wrote:
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Re: 3562A Analyzer
Ron Wilkinson
Hello Chuck,
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That message is usually caused by the A2B1 3.6V Lithium backup cell on the A2 CPU board needing replacement.... Regards. Ron Wilkinson mi-Biz Systems Pty Ltd Perth - Western Australia ==== ChuckA wrote:
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3562A Analyzer
I've been restoring a 3562A analyzer for a couple of months I bought it off ebay relatively cheap as it had some water damage. It's working fairly well now, but I have a couple of startup errors, one I've tracked down to the A4 LO board. When I replace with a known good board the LO errors stop, but I keep getting a "Bad Auto Sequence Table" error on startup and I can't find any reference to that error in the manuals I have. Anyone familiar with this error and have an idea which board might be the cause?
Thanks, Chuck -- See Early TV at: www.myvintagetv.com |
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Re: HP 8551 Spectrum Analyzer FS or trade?
In theory, but I have yet to find one with the YIG mod. Or, to be more accurate, most people selling them only have the main unit, or it and a display, but none of the cables or filter- they don't even know if it works, let alone what it's internal config is. I honestly don't have the room for another set.
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From: "Dave Brown" <tractorb@...> To: "hp agilent equipment" <hp_agilent_equipment@...> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 1:18:20 PM Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 8551 Spectrum Analyzer FS or trade? Once the BWO has been replaced with the YIG upgrade kit thats no longer an issue- does this one have that upgrade applied? 73 Dave, ZL3FJ Christchurch, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: < d.seiter@... > To: "hp agilent equipment" < hp_agilent_equipment@... > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 8551 Spectrum Analyzer FS or trade? Another problem with the 8551 (besides its' weight and therefore very high |
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Re: HP-IB / GPIB Printer Emulator
Martin,
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Before I found 7470.exe, I used to print to a laser printer with a standard parallel port. I used an adapter made by a company called "Intelligent Interfaces". I think it was called Microplot 50 or Microplot 45. It takes GPIB from the instrument and puts out some version of PCL for the printer. I see they have a web site, but on my browser it comes up as a blank page. Vladan --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "martin_u_fischer" <martin.u.fischer@...> wrote:
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Foam conductor problems
I've added some pictures under "3561A repair" to document a problem with my SA. All the electronics check out after replacing some parts but some of the buttons and most of the LEDs were not working on the front panel. After opening the front panel I found that this conductive foam seems to be the culprit. I've repaired LCD displays by cleaning conductive foam but the conductors in this foam seem very small. I cleaned it up with some ISO-alcohol and some of the LEDs started working but some of the key pads quit working. I cleaned it a second time and the same results. Some other buttons are working but some still not. The LED problem is solely the problem of the conductive foam but the keys could also be the conductive pads on the rubber keys. I've measured the resistance on most of the pads and they are about 50 ohms except for some that are 200 ohms and greater (up to about 480 ohms). I'm not sure what the max resistance can be and still make the key function. My solution first is to just solder the two boards with a connection harness to eliminate the conductive foam but I'm not sure how to fix the rubber key problem. I have some conductive paint but the resistance is still high, around 150 ohms. Does anyone have any success repairing this kind of problem?
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Re: 3457a on the way
David Kirkby
On 29 December 2012 03:39, Jeff Machesky <jeff@...> wrote:
So I have a 3457a on the way that passes the self tests. What are theI had one, and it was a good meter. I sold it to a friend, who has never used it, and now I need it, so he is going to sell it back to me. Neither of us can remember what I charged him for it first time around. I did write some software to control that meter. It's only been tested on Solaris with the NI GPIB card, but being command line driven, it should be fairly portable. But I suspect there are much nicer interfaces. I looked up the price the other day to get Agilent to calibrate it. The cost was about ?126 (around $200 I guess). Which is quite reasonable. That price included delivery and collection costs, but not tax. I never had any problems with mine, and when my mate and I were discussing me having it back yesteday or the day before, he done a few quick checks and confirmed it still worked fine. You seem to get quit a lot of meter for your money on that. The 3458A which gives an extra digit costs about 10x as much used. There is a newer Agilent meter than the 3457A, which tends to fetch more, but I recall at one time noticing the calibration cost on that was very most (?40 or so). Dave |
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Re: DIY: Repair of HP Step Attenuators
Bob Albert
Measure the coil resistance and drive voltage.? It may be that the drive is weak and it's not getting enough coil current, either due to coil resistance increase or drive signal decrease.
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From: ffierling <fff@...> Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: DIY: Repair of HP Step Attenuators To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 2:56 PM All, I wonder: I have a sticky microwave relay in an HP 8593A. If the relay has been closed (ie for LOWBAND) for about five minutes and is opened, it won't close again unless it's had a chance to cool down (about 10 minutes at room temp). I can get it to close immediately with freeze-spray. Could this possibly be magnetization? Aside from a sticky relay pivot, how else can such relays fail? Fred --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "i5spo" <piero.soldi@...> wrote: maybe you have one cell stuck, due to magnetization of the small actuator... Can be locked to the ceiling of attenuator case. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: New Spectrum Analyzer Discussion
I think maybe you misunderstood my posting. Or I didn't write it well.
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I mentioned I have an HP and an avcom but they are not what I am discussing in my posting. The spectrum analyzer I am talking about is: RF Explorer it is about $250 and covers 15mhz to 2.7ghz. It is pocket size and has a built in display screen and can be connected to a PC for large screen display and captures of screen shots. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my first posting. You can find details by googling RF Explorer. Thank you, Ken --- On Fri, 12/28/12, David Kirkby <david.kirkby@...> wrote:
From: David Kirkby <david.kirkby@...> Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] New Spectrum Analyzer Discussion To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 10:18 PM The prices I see at: make this an expensive spectrum analyer. You were lucky to get one for $250, if the basic price is $3375 I think I'd rather keep my HP 70000 series spectrum analyzer, though portable it is certainly not. Some of the prices are below. AVCOM Model # ??? Description ??? Cost $US PSA-65C System??? PSA-65C??? Portable Spectrum Analyzer ??? 3,375.00 PSA65Coption??? FM Demodulator ??? 215.00 PSA65Coption??? 10 kHz Resolution Bandwidth ??? 325.00 PSA65Coption??? AM Detector ??? 137.50 PSA65Coption??? Oscilloscope Interface ??? 210.00 ??? ??? PSA-65C Accessories??? PSA65Cacces??? Freq. Extender 1250 - 2500 MHz ??? 650.00 PSA65Cacces??? Freq. Extender 2500 - 3750 MHz ??? 650.00 PSA65Cacces??? Freq. Extender 1250 - 3750 MHz Combo ??? 1,300.00 PSA65Cacces??? Freq. Extender 3750 - 4200 MHz ??? 650.00 PSA65Cacces??? Freq. Extender 1 GHz - 2 GHz ??? 650.00 PSA65Cacces??? Freq. Extender 2 GHz - 3 GHz ??? 650.00 PSA65Cacces??? Freq. Extender 3.7GHz-4.2GHz ??? 650.00 ??? ??? Dave On 29 December 2012 02:44, disklog <disklog@...> wrote: Avcom PSA65C ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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3457a on the way
So I have a 3457a on the way that passes the self tests. What are the odds of it actually working when I get it? What should I look for as a general failure for these devices? I always assume anything I purchase off ebay is going to be in need of repair. Hopefully I'm wrong this time, but I have to say I've never purchased used gear that didn't need some repair. The device is in good cosmetic condition and the seller showed that it passed self tests. No actually readings however. It was last calibrated in 98. Ohh and my apologizes to anyone that was also bidding on the same unit. There was a few.
Thanks in advance, Jeff |
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Re: New Spectrum Analyzer Discussion
David Kirkby
The prices I see at:
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make this an expensive spectrum analyer. You were lucky to get one for $250, if the basic price is $3375 I think I'd rather keep my HP 70000 series spectrum analyzer, though portable it is certainly not. Some of the prices are below. AVCOM Model # Description Cost $US PSA-65C System PSA-65C Portable Spectrum Analyzer 3,375.00 PSA65Coption FM Demodulator 215.00 PSA65Coption 10 kHz Resolution Bandwidth 325.00 PSA65Coption AM Detector 137.50 PSA65Coption Oscilloscope Interface 210.00 PSA-65C Accessories PSA65Cacces Freq. Extender 1250 - 2500 MHz 650.00 PSA65Cacces Freq. Extender 2500 - 3750 MHz 650.00 PSA65Cacces Freq. Extender 1250 - 3750 MHz Combo 1,300.00 PSA65Cacces Freq. Extender 3750 - 4200 MHz 650.00 PSA65Cacces Freq. Extender 1 GHz - 2 GHz 650.00 PSA65Cacces Freq. Extender 2 GHz - 3 GHz 650.00 PSA65Cacces Freq. Extender 3.7GHz-4.2GHz 650.00 Dave On 29 December 2012 02:44, disklog <disklog@...> wrote:
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New Spectrum Analyzer Discussion
I see there is some discussion about an older large spectrum analyzer. I thought I would share my experience with a new very cheap but quite useful spectrum analyzer.
I have an HP 8558B and an Avcom PSA65C but I find myself using most often an analyzer I picked up recently for less than $250.00. It is a pocket spectrum analyzer called the RF Explorer. Google it for details. It covers 15mhz to 2.7ghz, has a built in screen, and also connects to a PC for large screen display and captures. I have no relation to the people that sell it, I just think it is a valuable useful analyzer for field measurements, and want to let others know of its availability. I never see it discussed anywhere nor is it advertised. Hope this posting helps you all with your projects and needs. Thanks, Ken |
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Re: hp 410c manual
Artekmedia
Dave et all
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These manuals are all for the "mixed technology" ( Tubes + Transistors) version of the 410C The all solid state version started at serial number 0982A22339. The Manual Lee needs is 00410-90009 Dave ArtekManuals.com On 12/28/2012 12:10 PM, Dave Daniel wrote:
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Dave Henderson Manuals@... www.Artekmanuals.com PO Box 175 Welch,MN 55089 651-269-4265 |
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Re: HP 8551 Spectrum Analyzer FS or trade?
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 06:44:17 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
Hi folks,I'm one who works with the dark side of the Force, that is, digital. I have no spectrum analyzers at all, although it might be nice to get one one day (and I am sufficiently space limited to not want a 3 or 4 foot 19 inch rack that has it's own 5HP gasoline motor just to move it around....) However, I *may* represent a population of people who would fairly automatically say.... "not right now, don't need one, too large, and I don't have enough space." Now if someone had a really unreasonably cheap one for a Tektronix 7000 series scope, then I'd be interested. For those of you who don't know, unreasonably cheap is about 25 dollars.... I'm not holding my breath.... Harvey
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