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CHECK OUT THE WIKI The purpose of the wiki is mainly to allow you to find information on instruments, either from either
- The model number
- The function(s) listed below. Some instruments have multiple functions - for example, the 4195A is a VNA, spectrum analyzer and an impedance analyzer. Therefore the 4195A is listed in multiple categories
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- Accessory kits - various types
- AC power analyzers - PA2201A and PA2203A
- AC power supplies 6811C, 6812C, 6813C
- Airlines
- Arbitrary waveform generators M8194A
- Amplifiers?493A, 495A?
- Attenuators (optical) 8156A, 8157A, 8158B, 81566A, 81576A,?
- Attenuators (RF) 8494A
- Attenuator set (500 ¦¸) 350C
- Attenuator set (600 ¦¸) 350D
- Attenuator switch driver
- Audio analyzers? 8903A, 8903B, 8903E,? ?
- Base station test sets
- Bit error rate testers (BERTs)
- Cables
- Capacitance meters U1701A, U1701B, 4272A, 4278A, 4279A
- Capacitor Bridge 4270A,
- Capacitor standards 16380A, 16380C,?
- Carrier noise test setsi
- Cesium frequency standards
- Clamp ammeters
- Close field probes
- Crystal Impedance E4915A, E4916A
- Data Acquisition Systems (DAQs)
- DC power analyzers
- DC power supplies 6030A , 6031A , 6032A, 6033A, 6035A, 6131C, 6621A, 6622A, 6623A, 6624A, 6627A, 6255A, 6645A, 6671A, 6672A, 6673A, 6674A, 6675A, 62003A, 62003C, 62003E, 62004A, 62004B, 62004E, 62005A, 62005B, 62005E, 62006A, 62006B, 62006E, 62010A, 62010C, 62010E, 62012A, 62012C, 62012E, 62015A, 62015C, 62015E, 62018A, 62018C, 62018E, 62024A, 62024C, 62024E, 62028A, 62028C, 62028E, 62048A, 62048C, 62048E
- Delay lines
- Detectors
- Device current waveform analyzers
- Digital communications analyzers
- Directional couplers
- Distortion analyzers 330B, 330C, 330D, 331A, 332A, 333A, 334A, 339A, 8903A, 8903B, 8903E,???
- Dynamic measurement DC source
- Electrometers
- Fading simulators
- Femto ammeters
- Filters
- Frequency counters 522B, 5342A 5343A 5352B
- Frequency standards?
- Function Generators ? 3310A,? 8165A,
- GPIB controllers, extenders, cables etc.
- GPS frequency standards
- Harmonic mixers
- High resistance meters 4339B
- High resistance meter fixtures 16008B
- HEV EV Grid Emulators and Test Systems
- In-circuit test systems
- Impedance analyzers 4195A, 4291A, 4291B, 4395A, 4396A, 4396B, 4294A, E4990A, E4991A
- Impedance Analyzer Accessories
- Impedance / Gain Phase analyzer 4194A
- Impedance Meter 4193A,
- Isolators
- LCR meters? U1701A, U1701B, U1731A,? U1731B, U1731C, U1732A, U1732B, U1732C, U1733C, 4191A , 4192A, 4194A, 4195A, E4196A,? 4216A, 4260A, 4261A, 4262A? 4263A, 4263B, 4271B, 4274A, 4275A, 4276A , 4277A, 4284A, 4285A, 4286A, 4287A, 4291A, 4291B, 4294A, 4332A, 4342A, 4395A, 4396A, 4396B, E4980A and E4980AL
- LCR meter calibration devices? 16380A 42030A? 42090A, 42091A and 42100A
- LCR meter accessories
- 2-Terminal BNCs.
- 4-Terminal Pair (BNC connectors)
- Cable extension 16048A, 16048D, 16048E, 16048G, 16048H
- DC current bias accessories 42841A, 42842A, 42842B, 42842C, 42843A
- DC voltage bias accessories 16065A, 16065C,
- Kelvin clips 16089A, 16089B, 16089C,16089E
- Lead Components 16047A,16047B, 16047D, 16047E
- Material 16451B, 16452A
- Probes 42941A
- SMD 16034E, 16034G, 16034H
- 2-port 16096A
- 7 mm (APC7)
- 2-Terminal BNCs.
- LCZ meters? 4276A, 4277A,
- Lightwave clock / data receivers
- Lightwave converter
- Lightwave component analyzer
- Lightwave measurement system mainframes
- Lightwave polarization analyzers 8509B
- Logic analyzers
- Nemo wireless network solutions.
- Noise and interference test set
- Noise figure analyzers
- Noise sources 346A, 346B. 346C ,
- Matching pads (50 ohm to 75 ohm or similar)
- Materials test equipment
- Microwave repeaters
- Microwave downconverters 70427A
- Microwave / THz sources
- Milliammeter 428B
- Milliohm meter
- Mobile communications DC source
- Modular instruments
- AXIe
- Data acquisition (DAQ)
- USB
- PXIe
- Modulation analyzers
- Multimeters 427A, 970A
- Optical attenuators
- Optical heads
- Optical sources
- Optical spectrum analyzers
- Oscilloscopes 120A, 120AR, 120B, 122A, 130A, 130B, 130BR, 130C, 140A, 140B, 141A, 150A, 150AR, 160B, 180A, 180AR, 180CD, 181A, 181AR, 181T, 181TR, 182C, 182T, 183A, 183B, 184A, 184B, 185A, 185B, 1200A, 1200B, 1220A, 1221A, 1703A, 1707A, 1707B, 1710A, 1710B, 1715A, 1722A, 1725A, 1726A, 1740A, 1741A, 1742A, 1743A, 1744A, 1746A, 1980A, 1980B, 5403A, 6000A, 6000L, 16533A, 16534A, 54100A, 5410B, 54100C, 5100D, 54111D, 54120A, 54120B, 54200A, 54501A, 54502A, 54503A, 54504A, 54520A, 54520C, 54540A, 54540C, 54542A, 54542C, 54600B, 54601A, 54601B, 54602B, 54603B,? 54645A, 54654N, 54710A, 54720A, 54750A, 54825N, E1428,?
- Oven controlled crystal oscillators (OCXOs)
- Pattern generators
- PCM terminal test set
- Phase noise measurement
- Pico ammeters
- Printers 2225
- Plotters 7470A, 7475A?
- Probes
- Protocol analyzers and exercisers.
- Power booster test sets
- Power meters 431A, 431B, 431C, 432A, 435A, 435B, 437B, 438A
- Power splitters
- Power supplies
- Pulse generators
- Q-meters 4342A?
- Q-meter calibration inductors 16470A
- Reflection transmission test set
- Return loss module (optical)
- Relays / switches / switch matrices (optical)
- Relays / switches / switch matrices (RF)
- Resistor standards 42030A?and 42100A
- S-parameter test sets
- Scalar network analyzers
- SCSI bus preprocessor interface E2324A
- Selective level meters 3746A
- Semiconductors
- Semiconductor parameter analyzers 4145A, 4155B, 4156B,
- Signal analyzers
- Signal generators / sweep generators / signal sources / oscillators 200CD, 201B, 209A, 204D,? 608A,? 8165A
- Software
- Source measure units
- Spectrum analyzers 4195A,???
- Switch control units
- SWR meter 415E?
- Time interval? counters
- Time mark generator 226A
- Timing and data state modules
- Torque wrenches
- Transmitter testers
- Trigger modules
- Ultrasound transducers
- Universal bridge? 4260A, 4265A, 4265B?
- Vacuum tube voltmeter 410C
- Vector Impedance Meter 4193A, 4800A, 4815A
- Vector Network Analyzers (VNAs) 4195A,? 8510A, 8510B, 8510C, 8753A, 8753B, 8753C, 8753D, 8753E, 8753ES, 8752ET, 8719A, 8719B, 8719C, 8719D, 8720A, 8720B, 8720C, 8720D, 8720ES, 8722A, 8722B, 8722C, 8722D, 8722ES,
- Vector Network Analyzers (VNA) calibration kits 85032B, 85032E, 85033C, 85033D, 85033E, 85050B, 85050C, 85050D, 85052B, 85052C, 85052D, 85054A, 85054B, 85054D, 85056A
- Vector Network Analyzer (VNA) verification kits
- Vector Signal Analyzer 89650S, 89600S
- Vector voltmeters 8405A, 8508A,
- VXI mainframes 70000B, 70000C
- Waveform and function generators
- Waveguide to waveguide and waveguide to coaxial transitions.
- Wireless 58 OTA chambers
- Wireless channel emulators
- Wireless network emulators
- Wireless communication test sets
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Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:36:54PM -0500, Peter Gottlieb hpnpilot@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Hamfests and these groups are looking better all the time.But the chance that one might find something relatively rarely sold that one really wants or needs at the hamfests one can find a way to actually get oneself to is close to zero, while if it is on Ebay you do have a chance of spotting and landing it even if the prices are much higher and sometimes there are problems with the transaction. And at its best, ebay is reasonably fair... hamfests and private sales favor those who are good at playing the required games... the "insiders" who know in advance who is selling what and where and how to get them to give you first dibs ... and who to trust and who is trying to cheat you in an anonymous cash only transaction where recourse may be difficult.. I have many many many items bought from Ebay I have NEVER seen at any hamfest I attended, and they were bought from the comfort of my living room with a laptop and not after a 10 hour drive in frightening traffic and a morning of wandering around in scorching heat and hot sun or cold wet rain or other adverse conditions. Remember a fundamental principle of economics... that absolutely pertains to Ebay... Risk and uncertainly reduces market price... more perfect the information, the higher the selling price. The way I see Ebay is much greater risk of problems results (sometimes) in much lower prices - if one wants, needs or expects hard guarantees and perfect luck with each and every transaction than buy from traditional sales channels and expect to pay 10 times as much or more. But for a lot of us we simply cannot justify spending that kind of MSRP full price bux for hobby or small business related items... and it is nice to have an alternative. -- Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@... DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493 "An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten 'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either." |
Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
On 18 February 2016 at 17:36, Peter Gottlieb hpnpilot@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
I've come to the conclusion you can put very little reliance on feedback, as the system is so screwed up. eBay have a team which remove negative feedback, and in some cases stop it being left, even if it is justified. Some of the worst sellers on eBay have 100% positive feedback, and they know how to play the system. A few examples 1) Someone messed me about, I had to get eBay involve to recover my money. I did get it back, but then left negative feedback, which said something like "Bad seller. Would not correct his error. I had to involve eBay to get my money back". The above seemed pretty fair comment. But apparently one is not allowed to mention involvement of the police, eBay, PayPal or similar bodies in feedback. So the eBay "negative feedback removal team" removed the feedback. I never got the chance to leave it again, 2) As a seller I have over 500 feedback, and 100% positive, but recently made a very rare error. I booked a collection for a calibration kit, uploaded the UPS tracking information, but somehow the kit never got given to the UPS driver when he collected other items. Rather than the buyer ask me where it was, he opened a case, saying the tracking number shows the item has not been shipped. Once I realized my error, I sent it, and apologized. A week or so later I get an email from eBay, saying that it had been resolved in my favor, as I had provided tracking information to show the item had been delivered. It said that the buyer would be prevented from leaving any negative feedback, and if he/she had done so, it would be removed. To be honest, I think that was unfair to the buyer. I would have appreciated if he had made me aware of the problem, rather than open an eBay case, as I could have sorted it out very quickly. But had he left feedback which said the shipping time is long, it would not have been unreasonable. 3) One particularly dodgy seller () has 100% positive, despite they are known to sell HP products in new cases. One person described it as the "HP rebirthing centre". I know a lot of people report being happy with yixunhk, but probably often because they have not looked inside!! I know from private emails, many have received "dodgy" items, but when they get their money back, they seem to just accept it. Anyway, after I left yixunhk negative feedback, they wanted it removed, and offered to give me all items (a bit over $1000) free if I removed it !!!! So its a bribe. I declined to take their bribe, and the feedback remained. But I can see a lot of people do take the bribes. A lot of people don't leave negative feedback, despite having very negative experiences with that seller. So it seems to me the feedback system is rather screwed, as * eBay have a team that inspects all negative, to see if they can justify removing it. * They can stop buyers leaving negative feedback, even if the buyer would have been justified in doing so. * yixunhk, and I suspect some dodgy sellers, are quite happy to pay fairly large amounts of money in bribes to get negative feedback removed. Maybe I am just unlucky, but I reckon about 97% of transactions I have on eBay are a positive experience, and 3% are not. Yet virtually every seller has more than 99% positive feedback. I'm not saying the feedback system is totally useless, but the very high positive values seem unrealistic to me. The odd few times I have purchased items from sellers with questionable feedback, the transaction has gone smoothly! Like the time I picked up a fully working HP 83623A 20 GHz sweep generator for ?568.88 (~$815) from a seller who had dodgy feedback, but that actually got me quite a bargain. Arguably the best buy I ever had on eBay. Dr. David Kirkby Ph.D CEng MIET Kirkby Microwave Ltd Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Essex, CM3 6DT, UK. Registered in England and Wales, company number 08914892. Tel: 07910 441670 / +44 7910 441670 (0900 to 2100 GMT only please) |
Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýStart with making the system easy to use.? Make the rules simple and clear.? Rules which do not favor buyer or seller in a dispute.? Have actual humans review disputes.? Have one more level, for appeal.? TOS that allow courts, not arbitration.? This has all been figured out already by honest marketplaces. ?eBay is trying to build their own environment to manipulate to maximize their profit and it causes both their sellers and buyers grief.? Peter On Feb 18, 2016, at 3:44 PM, 'John Miles' john@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
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Re: 16700B mouse and keyboard compatibility
On 02/18/2016 03:30 PM, sreeb sreeb@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
I just tried to update from an ancient logitech ps/2 mouse with ball toFrom my archives, a post by Martin Hodge on the eevblog forum in 2014: --------------------- It appears that all that is wrong with these units is that they are missing pull-up resistors on the PS/2 ports. There are even unpopulated pads for them directly behind the connectors. (see image) All that I had to do was add 1k resistors in the four locations and the unit recognized an old el-cheapo PS/2 mouse and keyboard. (As expected, a USB mouse or KB thru a PS/2 adapter did not work.) --------------------- -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYou'd need a PhD in game theory to figure out how to do that.? Most likely, you'd end up proving that it's impossible. ? Think of all the "problem child" users a business like eBay has to deal with, on both sides of the transaction. ? -- john, KE5FX ? From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:25 AM To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] eBay buyer protections are poor ? ? It needs to be fair to both.? ? Peter |
Re: 16700B mouse and keyboard compatibility
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 2016-02-18 4:30 PM, sreeb
sreeb@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
?I use a Logitech M-BD58 mouse on my 16700A without any problems.? This is an older optical mouse with a USB-PS/2 adapter on the end.? I do recall reading that some keyboards and mice did not work do to the absence of some pullups on the 16700 PS/2 ports, but I am no longer sure where I saw that.? My keyboard is an ancient compact keyboard from a Compaq portable 486. Paul. |
16700B mouse and keyboard compatibility
I just tried to update from an ancient logitech ps/2 mouse with ball to a new ps/2 laser mouse. My 16700B didn't recognize it.
Same result with a new compact keyboard. My old one, that dates from around 1990, works fine. Both are native ps/2 devices and work on windows machines with ps/2 interfaces. Has anyone else encountered this problem? Ed |
Re: Free for shipping: HP 412A
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The insides look pristine. There is one gentleman who claims to want this, but if I don't hear from him today or tomorrow, you can certainly have it. Thanks Ashley Thank You Kiss-Electronics Ms Ashley Hall 183 N 5th Avenue Cornelius, Oregon 97113 W7DUZ www.kiss-electronics.com -----Original Message-----
From: Bob Albert bob91343@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> To: hp_agilent_equipment <hp_agilent_equipment@...> Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2016 12:22 pm Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Free for shipping: HP 412A Does this unit have a good range switch? I have one I got from you but its range switch is bad and if I can get a good switch (with attached components) from you, I'd be happy to take that off your hands. Bob K6DDX On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:59 PM, "Ashley40@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote: Free for shipping ( We believe this thing will fit into a USPS large flat rate box ($26) to the lower 48: All electronic innards are there, including panel and meter and all panel switches. Outer case and carry handle in good condition . No tubes or test leads or front bezel. AC cord has been snipped off. Thank You Kiss Electronics Cornelius, Oregon Ms Ashley Hall W7DUZ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Free for shipping: HP 412A
Bob Albert
Does this unit have a good range switch?? I have one I got from you but its range switch is bad and if I can get a good switch (with attached components) from you, I'd be happy to take that off your hands. Bob K6DDX On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:59 PM, "Ashley40@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" wrote: Free for shipping ( We believe this thing will fit into a USPS large flat rate box ($26) to the lower 48: All electronic innards are there, including panel and meter and all panel switches. Outer case and carry handle in good condition . ?No tubes or test leads or front bezel. AC cord has been snipped off. Thank You Kiss Electronics Cornelius, Oregon Ms Ashley Hall W7DUZ |
Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
Another thing to remember is that ebay rules are different in other countries and protection differs with auction V buy it now and private V business sellers. Read feedback. I only order from China if I'm prepared to write it off, but so far I've been lucky in that area. As a seller I've had little trouble. Worst is Italian postal service, always send to Italy signed for even if you know the recipient.
Robert G8RPI. |
Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
Jack,
Had I encountered sellers (two) such as you, I would be singing ebay's praises.? Both sellers treated me as though I didn't exist after they collected my money!? Bob, I'm happy for your success with the program but keep your eyes peeled!? I, also, had enough good experiences to, I guess, get a bit "overconfident".? Well...never again! Tom |
Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
Jack Mcmullen
Hi Bob,
Been an Ebayer for over 15 years with close to 5000 feedback at 100%. One thing on selling, be responsive, offer solutions at your cost versus the buyers. Example, if a buyer has an issue, if a return is needed, cover his return cost, and if you have another, send at your cost. Your experiences are from bad or lazy sellers. Rules for selling I go by: Treat every buyer like it was you in the same circumstance. Simple as that
Jack KG6INX
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From: Bob Stewart bob@... [hp_agilent_equipment] To: hp_agilent_equipment Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2016 11:23 am Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: eBay buyer protections are poor ?
Interesting. I've had good experiences with buyer protection: perhaps too good. I recently received a pair of OCXOs, one of which was bad. Ebay compelled the seller to refund me. I had an item arrive with the bag split and the contents missing. The seller wouldn't communicate other than to post copies of "item received" from USPS. Ebay actually refunded me for the lost item. I received the wrong connectors and the seller didn't respond to a message, so I asked for a refund. I got a full refund, even though I had destroyed one of the connectors while removing it. Over the past 3 years, I've had a number of bad experiences with sellers that ebay has resolved satisfactorily other than time lost. I'm near the end of developing a GPSDO that I hope to sell on ebay, and TBH I'm a bit concerned about the possibility of bad buyers. This concern has also caused me to drag my feet on selling numerous Collins items I have that I no longer need. So I guess we all have a different experience with ebay.
Bob - AE6RV -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 2/18/16, wb6dgn_tom@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote: Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: eBay buyer protections are poor To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Date: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 1:11 PM Peter, My experienced with ebay is also bad.? While not electronics related the LAST two items I bought through ebay were grossly "not as described".? Both were rather pricey and both claimed "Buyer Protection" near the pricing information. In the interest of brevity, my experience was that the "buyer protection" claim was not worth the bandwidth used to claim it!? ebay, in essence told me to "go take a hike" in both cases, refused to lift a finger to arbitrate the claim and told me that "I should have known better than to expect "buyer protection" on such old items, the fact that it was clearly stated notwithstanding! Well...I DID take a hike!? I closed my user account, deleted all activities related to ebay and will not even log into their site to use as a price or availability reference. While it is true that the items were old, it was their claim of assistance if needed, clearly posted by the pricing information, that induced me to take a chance on those purchases and BOTH times I got "BIT" For the past 4+ years, ebay has been nothing more than a bad memory for me and I fully expect to keep it that way!? I don't trust them any further than I could throw their entire corporate office complex! 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Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
Bob Stewart
Interesting. I've had good experiences with buyer protection: perhaps too good. I recently received a pair of OCXOs, one of which was bad. Ebay compelled the seller to refund me. I had an item arrive with the bag split and the contents missing. The seller wouldn't communicate other than to post copies of "item received" from USPS. Ebay actually refunded me for the lost item. I received the wrong connectors and the seller didn't respond to a message, so I asked for a refund. I got a full refund, even though I had destroyed one of the connectors while removing it. Over the past 3 years, I've had a number of bad experiences with sellers that ebay has resolved satisfactorily other than time lost. I'm near the end of developing a GPSDO that I hope to sell on ebay, and TBH I'm a bit concerned about the possibility of bad buyers. This concern has also caused me to drag my feet on selling numerous Collins items I have that I no longer need. So I guess we all have a different experience with ebay.
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Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: eBay buyer protections are poor To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Date: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 1:11 PM Peter, My experienced with ebay is also bad.? While not electronics related the LAST two items I bought through ebay were grossly "not as described".? Both were rather pricey and both claimed "Buyer Protection" near the pricing information. In the interest of brevity, my experience was that the "buyer protection" claim was not worth the bandwidth used to claim it!? ebay, in essence told me to "go take a hike" in both cases, refused to lift a finger to arbitrate the claim and told me that "I should have known better than to expect "buyer protection" on such old items, the fact that it was clearly stated notwithstanding! Well...I DID take a hike!? I closed my user account, deleted all activities related to ebay and will not even log into their site to use as a price or availability reference. While it is true that the items were old, it was their claim of assistance if needed, clearly posted by the pricing information, that induced me to take a chance on those purchases and BOTH times I got "BIT" For the past 4+ years, ebay has been nothing more than a bad memory for me and I fully expect to keep it that way!? I don't trust them any further than I could throw their entire corporate office complex! 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Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
Peter,
My experienced with ebay is also bad.? While not electronics related the LAST two items I bought through ebay were grossly "not as described".? Both were rather pricey and both claimed "Buyer Protection" near the pricing information. In the interest of brevity, my experience was that the "buyer protection" claim was not worth the bandwidth used to claim it!? ebay, in essence told me to "go take a hike" in both cases, refused to lift a finger to arbitrate the claim and told me that "I should have known better than to expect "buyer protection" on such old items, the fact that it was clearly stated notwithstanding! Well...I DID take a hike!? I closed my user account, deleted all activities related to ebay and will not even log into their site to use as a price or availability reference. While it is true that the items were old, it was their claim of assistance if needed, clearly posted by the pricing information, that induced me to take a chance on those purchases and BOTH times I got "BIT" For the past 4+ years, ebay has been nothing more than a bad memory for me and I fully expect to keep it that way!? I don't trust them any further than I could throw their entire corporate office complex! Tom |
Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt needs to be fair to both.? Peter On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:11 PM, 'Richard W. Solomon' w1ksz@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
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Re: eBay buyer protections are poor
Richard W. Solomon
If you think it's bad now, you should have been using it years ago, when
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sellers could hit you with retaliatory negative feedback. Claims for non-delivery or not what you ordered were non-existent. e_Bay has come a long way, even to the point where the sellers now complain about unfair treatment. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -----Original Message-----
From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:37 AM To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] eBay buyer protections are poor The purchase was a trivial one, a small item from China. However, my experience with Ebay is indicative of their policies. They gave me an estimated max delivery time of about 4-8 weeks. As 8 weeks is very long even for a Chinese item, I tried to complain at 6 weeks but their system would not allow it. It took until two days after the last expected delivery date before their system would even allow me to open a case. Most of their links are useless help pages and it takes a bit of searching to find the actual link. This seems to be to discourage filing a claim. Today I found out the seller is suspended. But still, I had to send a message requesting a refund and wait 4 days (actually 6 as they don't count weekends) for a response. My previous messages direct to the seller don't count. Once this time passes I am "eligible to escalate" the case. I find this to be poor support of buyers. It seems likely now the seller was suspended for non-delivery, so to make everyone jump through a series of hoops is just a waste of time. Hamfests and these groups are looking better all the time. Peter ------------------------------------ Posted by: Peter Gottlieb <hpnpilot@...> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links |
eBay buyer protections are poor
The purchase was a trivial one, a small item from China. However, my experience with Ebay is indicative of their policies.
They gave me an estimated max delivery time of about 4-8 weeks. As 8 weeks is very long even for a Chinese item, I tried to complain at 6 weeks but their system would not allow it. It took until two days after the last expected delivery date before their system would even allow me to open a case. Most of their links are useless help pages and it takes a bit of searching to find the actual link. This seems to be to discourage filing a claim. Today I found out the seller is suspended. But still, I had to send a message requesting a refund and wait 4 days (actually 6 as they don't count weekends) for a response. My previous messages direct to the seller don't count. Once this time passes I am "eligible to escalate" the case. I find this to be poor support of buyers. It seems likely now the seller was suspended for non-delivery, so to make everyone jump through a series of hoops is just a waste of time. Hamfests and these groups are looking better all the time. Peter |