If anyone could help me with getting the system software for a (working) Tekmate 2402A, I would be very grateful. Of course, I'd be willing to financially compensate.
Raymond
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--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "Jose V. Gavila" wrote: Hello Harvey,
I have a working Tekmate and software :-)
I bought it from another person who had bought lots of Tekmate items to finally get his 2402A working, so I contributed to pay for the expenses.
So if you want, I can make a copy of it.
Best regards,
JOSE
At 15:00 03/01/2008 -0500, you wrote:
I have a tektronix 2402A Tekmate. It's a single board 286 computer with a 488 bus card.
Nobody on the tektronix group seems to know much about this, and with the hope that someone here has the manual, or has the software, I'd like to make use of it.
MSDOS is not so much the problem, but the custom drivers that tektronix used don't seem to be available, even by calling the factory (did... they didn't have anything).
It would be nice to hook up to my Tektronix scope....
Harvey ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 73 EB5AGV / EC5AAU - JOSE V. GAVILA La Canyada - Valencia (SPAIN) - Loc: IM99SM
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Firmware for HP8714B RF Network Analyzer
HI! Must you have a firmware disc to add new calibration constants in HP8714B? It says so in the service guide, but there is a command in the 8714B by saving data from RAM memory to Eprom memory Dare you click the command or delete the entire Eprom memory then? Does anyone have a firmware diskette to a HP8714B? Thanks/ Goran
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I always assumed that those posts are the same standard ones used in much HP gear, which are threaded, and each individually attached to the assembly. I have a damaged one on a 3455A that I plan to replace. I haven't tried it yet, but I think the trick is getting at the back side of the assembly to unscrew the parts. The front panel can be removed but I'm not sure what it looks like behind that area.
Ed
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--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., d.seiter@... wrote:
About a month ago I got a 3456A that had a few issues (test faults 4 and 7) including a really bent guard binding post. Trouble shooting the test errors had me going in circles, so I decided to look at the post issue. I knew from experience that just trying to bend it back was going to snap it off, but I just had to try anyway, and.... snap there it was in my hand. While the replacement assemblies with 5 binding posts are available, there is no way I'm going to pay for one! I'm thinking about drilling out the balance of the post and fitting a new insulated post in the hole. It doesn't even have to to be a screw post, just a banana jack would do. Anyone had to do this before? Oh, lest I forget, I was trying to remove the PCB behind the connector, but the center snap post wouldn't release, so I grabbed it with a channel lock and gave it a yank. Out it came, but the nice thing was that after I reinstalled it, and powered up the unit (thinking I probably made things worse!) it passed the tests and seems to be working fine. Previously, it did nothing but show "OL" on all functions. -Dave
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Joe,
That's one thing I did forget to do on that board, usually it is the first thing. Only because it is the easiest.... I really could use an extender for this one, not much chance of making one as there are over 100 pins on these cards.
Chuck
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On 1/20/2013 9:56 AM, J. L. Trantham wrote: Chuck,
Just a thought but have you checked all the tantalum caps on the board? I have found some PCB's with 'on board regulators' with downstream capacitors shorted that 'killed' the board without overloading the main power supplies. Hard to detect without an extender board and a schematic.
Might be worth a quick check if you haven't done it yet.
Good luck.
Joe
From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] On Behalf Of ChuckA Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:32 PM To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 3562A
Dave,
The board has only HP numbers and labels and the display unit is a stock 1345A.
The board appears to be divided with the program ROM on the left, display driver in the center, and the global RAM on the right. Maybe with lots of coffee I can read through the A8 "how it works" and try to match it with the new board.
Chuck
On 1/19/2013 10:15 PM, Artekmedia wrote:
Chuck
I just looked and your right.....this has all the fingerprints of being another "3rd Party" drop in like the power supplies starting in the 90's ...a close look at the board and other stuff related to the display assembly might reveal the original / "real" manufacturer and trace it that way?
Dave
On 1/19/2013 8:59 PM, ChuckA wrote:
I recently purchased another 3562A analyzer, this one is late production I believe 1990. I have repaired two other units, earlier production (1984/85). Of course there is a major change between the units, the A8 RAM/Display board isn't used and a new board (A38) is used for the A8 and A3 ROM board.
Problem is there is no display, the display unit is good as I can put it in the setup mode and everything checks out. I have the service manual for the later unit and the meager troubleshooting fix for "No Display" is replace the A38 board. Oh yes, one other thing, there's no schematic for that board in the manual. In fact other then a passing note about the replacement board, there is nothing about the A38 board in the manual.
Does anyone have any experience with this failure mode that could point me in the direction of what part(s) to try replacing first? Or have any documentation on this board?
Thanks Chuck
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Chuck,
Just a thought but have you checked all the tantalum caps on the board? I have found some PCB's with 'on board regulators' with downstream capacitors shorted that 'killed' the board without overloading the main power supplies. Hard to detect without an extender board and a schematic.
Might be worth a quick check if you haven't done it yet.
Good luck.
Joe
From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] On Behalf Of ChuckA Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:32 PM To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 3562A
Dave,
The board has only HP numbers and labels and the display unit is a stock 1345A.
The board appears to be divided with the program ROM on the left, display driver in the center, and the global RAM on the right. Maybe with lots of coffee I can read through the A8 "how it works" and try to match it with the new board.
Chuck
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On 1/19/2013 10:15 PM, Artekmedia wrote: Chuck
I just looked and your right.....this has all the fingerprints of being another "3rd Party" drop in like the power supplies starting in the 90's ...a close look at the board and other stuff related to the display assembly might reveal the original / "real" manufacturer and trace it that way?
Dave
On 1/19/2013 8:59 PM, ChuckA wrote:
I recently purchased another 3562A analyzer, this one is late production I believe 1990. I have repaired two other units, earlier production (1984/85). Of course there is a major change between the units, the A8 RAM/Display board isn't used and a new board (A38) is used for the A8 and A3 ROM board.
Problem is there is no display, the display unit is good as I can put it in the setup mode and everything checks out. I have the service manual for the later unit and the meager troubleshooting fix for "No Display" is replace the A38 board. Oh yes, one other thing, there's no schematic for that board in the manual. In fact other then a passing note about the replacement board, there is nothing about the A38 board in the manual.
Does anyone have any experience with this failure mode that could point me in the direction of what part(s) to try replacing first? Or have any documentation on this board?
Thanks Chuck
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www.myvintagetv.com
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Re: CONNECTOR RECEPTACLE ELECTRICAL SCM22D/7-1HP
he bought the connector board was sunk lower and it cracked in the middle, someone has some this connector to me or sell me indicates it is really like this
Thanks?
Joarez
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? he bought the connector board was sunk lower and it cracked in the middle, someone has some this connector to me or sell me indicates it is really like this
Thanks?
Joarez
________________________________ De: jsiczkoriz jsiczkoriz@...> Para: hp_agilent_equipment@... Enviadas: Sábado, 19 de Janeiro de 2013 16:52 Assunto: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: CONNECTOR RECEPTACLE ELECTRICAL SCM22D/7-1HP
? after buying the item on ebay :
3 pieces very happy I weld it on my HP3586B to put the same plate cracked in half, after he and soldering put another new same split in half to my surprise although 22 pins each route he and thinner to put the board splits in the middle, who can help me with the original connector can be used or direct me to some one who really
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Re: HP 3468 DMM battery change
I love it when it's the simple things.
Joe
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-----Original Message----- From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] On Behalf Of xyloeye Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:07 PM To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 3468 DMM battery change I finally had time to get back to it tonight. Joe mentioned power supply voltages. I had checked random points to make sure the power supply was running but I failed to check all the voltages at the service jumpers. When I did, all but the -15V rails were very low. I disconnected the jumpers one by one but nothing past them was dragging the voltages down. I thought I had it narrowed down to one of the temperature sense resistors. I was looking over the board with magnifiers when I spotted a small piece of solder shorting two pins of the main regulator (U701). I didn't see it before because it was hidden under the heat sink. Must have happened when I did the battery change. So I'm up and running. All I have to do is calibrate it and I think it'll be good to go. So thanks, all of you who made suggestions. I broke the cardinal rule of checking all voltages first. I really appreciate your help. Ken --- In hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com> , "J. L. Trantham" wrote: Did you check the power supply voltages?
Joe
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<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of xyloeye Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:52 PM To: hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 3468 DMM battery change
Yeah, I disconnected the battery overnight and shorted the RAM chip Vcc to gnd to clear any leftover capcitance, etc. That had no effect. I'm kind of thinking maybe something was on the verge of failure and I pushed it over the edge. Problem is, even if I narrow it down to a component, all of the chips are unobtainable now.
Thanks again for your help Jeff.
Ken
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com> , Jeff Machesky wrote:
You may need to disconnect the battery again to allow the RAM to "zero" out. Well at least not be in it's present state.
Just a thought,
Jeff
On 1/17/2013 5:16 PM, xyloeye wrote:
Thanks for your reply. You're right, error 1 is calibration RAM. I tried to calibrate it but since the display is dead, it's hard to do. When the lead fell off I'm positive it didn't touch anything else. I just can't figure out how disconnecting the battery would cause a dead
display.
Ken
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>
, "J. L. Trantham" wrote:
I tried to remove and read the contents of the ROM on my 3478A. In
the process, I apparently shorted the 5 V line to ground, which somehow killed
the contents of the CALRAM. In any event, there was a message about Calibration. I then replaced the battery and went through the recalibration
steps and all was well.
According to the manual for the 3468A, Error 1 is 'Calibration RAM Error'.
Error 2 is 'RAM Error'.
I suspect that the issue is that you lost the RAM contents for the Calibration RAM. Have you tried to calibrate the unit? Have you
checked
the power supplies?
The alternative is once the lead slipped off, it 'connected' to something
else and took out something. Was it the + or - lead?
Sounds like you need to go the service manual and start with the
trouble
shooting section, probably Service Group E, and go from there.
Good luck.
Joe
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<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 3468 DMM battery change
I'm having some trouble with a battery change in a 3468 DMM. You would think
I could handle that without incident! I kept 3 volts on the terminals while
soldering in the new battery but one of the leads slipped off and there went
the calibration. No problem - I can calibrate it again or so I thought. The
display flashed "error 1" (ram error)and then went blank. It's been blank
ever since despite all the resetting procedures I've tried. Could corrupt
ram cause this? Or is could I have somehow damaged the controller?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Great to hear for both you and the meter. It's so easy to have that solder drop from time to time. Good thing is nothing serious happen with the meter.
Jeff
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On 1/19/2013 9:07 PM, xyloeye wrote: I finally had time to get back to it tonight. Joe mentioned power supply voltages. I had checked random points to make sure the power supply was running but I failed to check all the voltages at the service jumpers. When I did, all but the -15V rails were very low. I disconnected the jumpers one by one but nothing past them was dragging the voltages down. I thought I had it narrowed down to one of the temperature sense resistors. I was looking over the board with magnifiers when I spotted a small piece of solder shorting two pins of the main regulator (U701). I didn't see it before because it was hidden under the heat sink. Must have happened when I did the battery change.
So I'm up and running. All I have to do is calibrate it and I think it'll be good to go. So thanks, all of you who made suggestions. I broke the cardinal rule of checking all voltages first. I really appreciate your help.
Ken
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>, "J. L. Trantham" wrote:
Did you check the power supply voltages?
Joe
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[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of xyloeye
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Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 3468 DMM battery change
Yeah, I disconnected the battery overnight and shorted the RAM chip Vcc to
gnd to clear any leftover capcitance, etc. That had no effect. I'm kind of
thinking maybe something was on the verge of failure and I pushed it over
the edge. Problem is, even if I narrow it down to a component, all of the
chips are unobtainable now.
Thanks again for your help Jeff.
Ken
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>
, Jeff Machesky wrote:
You may need to disconnect the battery again to allow the RAM to
"zero"
out. Well at least not be in it's present state.
Just a thought,
Jeff
On 1/17/2013 5:16 PM, xyloeye wrote:
Thanks for your reply. You're right, error 1 is calibration RAM. I tried to calibrate it but since the display is dead, it's hard
to do.
When the lead fell off I'm positive it didn't touch anything
else. I
just can't figure out how disconnecting the battery would cause
a dead
display.
Ken
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>
, "J. L. Trantham" wrote:
I tried to remove and read the contents of the ROM on my
3478A. In the
process, I apparently shorted the 5 V line to ground, which
somehow
killed
the contents of the CALRAM. In any event, there was a message
about
Calibration. I then replaced the battery and went through the recalibration
steps and all was well.
According to the manual for the 3468A, Error 1 is 'Calibration
RAM
Error'.
Error 2 is 'RAM Error'.
I suspect that the issue is that you lost the RAM contents for the Calibration RAM. Have you tried to calibrate the unit? Have you checked
the power supplies?
The alternative is once the lead slipped off, it 'connected' to something
else and took out something. Was it the + or - lead?
Sounds like you need to go the service manual and start with the
trouble
shooting section, probably Service Group E, and go from there.
Good luck.
Joe
From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
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[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...
<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>
] On Behalf Of xyloeye
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:06 PM To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
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Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 3468 DMM battery change
I'm having some trouble with a battery change in a 3468 DMM. You would think
I could handle that without incident! I kept 3 volts on the terminals while
soldering in the new battery but one of the leads slipped off and there went
the calibration. No problem - I can calibrate it again or so I thought. The
display flashed "error 1" (ram error)and then went blank. It's
been
blank
ever since despite all the resetting procedures I've tried. Could corrupt
ram cause this? Or is could I have somehow damaged the
controller? Any
thoughts would be appreciated.
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Re: HP 3468 DMM battery change
I finally had time to get back to it tonight. Joe mentioned power supply voltages. I had checked random points to make sure the power supply was running but I failed to check all the voltages at the service jumpers. When I did, all but the -15V rails were very low. I disconnected the jumpers one by one but nothing past them was dragging the voltages down. I thought I had it narrowed down to one of the temperature sense resistors. I was looking over the board with magnifiers when I spotted a small piece of solder shorting two pins of the main regulator (U701). I didn't see it before because it was hidden under the heat sink. Must have happened when I did the battery change.
So I'm up and running. All I have to do is calibrate it and I think it'll be good to go. So thanks, all of you who made suggestions. I broke the cardinal rule of checking all voltages first. I really appreciate your help.
Ken
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--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "J. L. Trantham" wrote: Did you check the power supply voltages?
Joe
-----Original Message----- From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] On Behalf Of xyloeye Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:52 PM To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 3468 DMM battery change
Yeah, I disconnected the battery overnight and shorted the RAM chip Vcc to gnd to clear any leftover capcitance, etc. That had no effect. I'm kind of thinking maybe something was on the verge of failure and I pushed it over the edge. Problem is, even if I narrow it down to a component, all of the chips are unobtainable now.
Thanks again for your help Jeff.
Ken
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@... , Jeff Machesky wrote:
You may need to disconnect the battery again to allow the RAM to "zero" out. Well at least not be in it's present state.
Just a thought,
Jeff
On 1/17/2013 5:16 PM, xyloeye wrote:
Thanks for your reply. You're right, error 1 is calibration RAM. I tried to calibrate it but since the display is dead, it's hard to do. When the lead fell off I'm positive it didn't touch anything else. I just can't figure out how disconnecting the battery would cause a dead display.
Ken
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
, "J. L. Trantham" wrote:
I tried to remove and read the contents of the ROM on my 3478A. In the process, I apparently shorted the 5 V line to ground, which somehow killed
the contents of the CALRAM. In any event, there was a message about Calibration. I then replaced the battery and went through the recalibration
steps and all was well.
According to the manual for the 3468A, Error 1 is 'Calibration RAM Error'.
Error 2 is 'RAM Error'.
I suspect that the issue is that you lost the RAM contents for the Calibration RAM. Have you tried to calibrate the unit? Have you checked
the power supplies?
The alternative is once the lead slipped off, it 'connected' to something
else and took out something. Was it the + or - lead?
Sounds like you need to go the service manual and start with the
trouble
shooting section, probably Service Group E, and go from there.
Good luck.
Joe
From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...
] On Behalf Of xyloeye
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:06 PM To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 3468 DMM battery change
I'm having some trouble with a battery change in a 3468 DMM. You would think
I could handle that without incident! I kept 3 volts on the terminals while
soldering in the new battery but one of the leads slipped off and there went
the calibration. No problem - I can calibrate it again or so I thought. The
display flashed "error 1" (ram error)and then went blank. It's been blank
ever since despite all the resetting procedures I've tried. Could corrupt
ram cause this? Or is could I have somehow damaged the controller? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Re: 8563E +28V shutdown/oscillates
I was suspecting overheat as well, but wasn't the case. Turns out it WAS low input voltage - there were 2 x 180uF 40V caps going bad in the low voltage side feeding the LM317 regulator. There are 4 of these caps in total, and 3 of them were degraded, so I replaced all 4 with 220uF 50V caps. Things are running properly now. Odd thing is these caps have a useless lead coming out of the top of the can, axial style, and the working leads are radial style. So 3 leads to unsolder. Weird. Thought it might be for shielding. Thanks everybody. Colin VE3MSC
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At 03:35 PM 2013-01-12, Dan Meeks wrote: IF it takes seconds to cycle on and off, suspect that it's overheating and protecting itself. The junction temp would be in the 150-160C range, so the IC would be really, really hot.
From your last post it sounds like the input voltage is what's dropping out? That'll do it, too!
Good luck -
Dan
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Hmmmmm...There are other units that use the 1345A display ...I'll do some poking tomorrow maybe a clue there
Dave
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On 1/19/2013 9:31 PM, ChuckA wrote: Dave,
The board has only HP numbers and labels and the display unit is a stock 1345A.
The board appears to be divided with the program ROM on the left, display driver in the center, and the global RAM on the right. Maybe with lots of coffee I can read through the A8 "how it works" and try to match it with the new board.
Chuck
On 1/19/2013 10:15 PM, Artekmedia wrote:
Chuck
I just looked and your right.....this has all the fingerprints of being another "3rd Party" drop in like the power supplies starting in the 90's ...a close look at the board and other stuff related to the display assembly might reveal the original / "real" manufacturer and trace it that way?
Dave
On 1/19/2013 8:59 PM, ChuckA wrote:
I recently purchased another 3562A analyzer, this one is late production
I believe 1990. I have repaired two other units, earlier production (1984/85). Of course there is a major change between the units, the A8 RAM/Display board isn't used and a new board (A38) is used for the A8 and A3 ROM board.
Problem is there is no display, the display unit is good as I can put it in the setup mode and everything checks out. I have the service manual for the later unit and the meager troubleshooting fix for "No Display" is replace the A38 board. Oh yes, one other thing, there's no schematic for that board in the manual. In fact other then a passing note about the replacement board, there is nothing about the A38 board in the manual.
Does anyone have any experience with this failure mode that could point me in the direction of what part(s) to try replacing first? Or have any documentation on this board?
Thanks Chuck
-- See Early TV at:
www.myvintagetv.com
-- Dave Henderson Manuals@... www.Artekmanuals.com PO Box 175 Welch,MN 55089 651-269-4265
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Dave,
The board has only HP numbers and labels and the display unit is a stock 1345A.
The board appears to be divided with the program ROM on the left, display driver in the center, and the global RAM on the right. Maybe with lots of coffee I can read through the A8 "how it works" and try to match it with the new board.
Chuck
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On 1/19/2013 10:15 PM, Artekmedia wrote: Chuck
I just looked and your right.....this has all the fingerprints of being another "3rd Party" drop in like the power supplies starting in the 90's ...a close look at the board and other stuff related to the display assembly might reveal the original / "real" manufacturer and trace it that way?
Dave
On 1/19/2013 8:59 PM, ChuckA wrote:
I recently purchased another 3562A analyzer, this one is late production I believe 1990. I have repaired two other units, earlier production (1984/85). Of course there is a major change between the units, the A8 RAM/Display board isn't used and a new board (A38) is used for the A8 and A3 ROM board.
Problem is there is no display, the display unit is good as I can put it in the setup mode and everything checks out. I have the service manual for the later unit and the meager troubleshooting fix for "No Display" is replace the A38 board. Oh yes, one other thing, there's no schematic for that board in the manual. In fact other then a passing note about the replacement board, there is nothing about the A38 board in the manual.
Does anyone have any experience with this failure mode that could point me in the direction of what part(s) to try replacing first? Or have any documentation on this board?
Thanks Chuck
-- See Early TV at:
www.myvintagetv.com
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Chuck
I just looked and your right.....this has all the fingerprints of being another "3rd Party" drop in like the power supplies starting in the 90's ...a close look at the board and other stuff related to the display assembly might reveal the original / "real" manufacturer and trace it that way?
Dave
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On 1/19/2013 8:59 PM, ChuckA wrote: I recently purchased another 3562A analyzer, this one is late production I believe 1990. I have repaired two other units, earlier production (1984/85). Of course there is a major change between the units, the A8 RAM/Display board isn't used and a new board (A38) is used for the A8 and A3 ROM board.
Problem is there is no display, the display unit is good as I can put it in the setup mode and everything checks out. I have the service manual for the later unit and the meager troubleshooting fix for "No Display" is replace the A38 board. Oh yes, one other thing, there's no schematic for that board in the manual. In fact other then a passing note about the replacement board, there is nothing about the A38 board in the manual.
Does anyone have any experience with this failure mode that could point me in the direction of what part(s) to try replacing first? Or have any documentation on this board?
Thanks Chuck
-- Dave Henderson Manuals@... www.Artekmanuals.com PO Box 175 Welch,MN 55089 651-269-4265
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I recently purchased another 3562A analyzer, this one is late production I believe 1990. I have repaired two other units, earlier production (1984/85). Of course there is a major change between the units, the A8 RAM/Display board isn't used and a new board (A38) is used for the A8 and A3 ROM board.
Problem is there is no display, the display unit is good as I can put it in the setup mode and everything checks out. I have the service manual for the later unit and the meager troubleshooting fix for "No Display" is replace the A38 board. Oh yes, one other thing, there's no schematic for that board in the manual. In fact other then a passing note about the replacement board, there is nothing about the A38 board in the manual.
Does anyone have any experience with this failure mode that could point me in the direction of what part(s) to try replacing first? Or have any documentation on this board?
Thanks Chuck
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Re: [TestEquipTrader] A Source for Tools Etc
I get my tools from the local pawn shop. They almost always have sockets, wrenches, hex wrenches, screw drivers and pliers. I have found Greenlee power socket testers, cable testers and battery operated power tools. Machinist tools are common. The prices are good: I usually pick out 15 to 20 items and they take $10.00 for the lot. This includes Craftsman and Snap-On tools. The pawn shop offers no warranty, but, Sears will replace a bad tool without question.
73 Glenn WB4UIV
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At 05:47 PM 1/19/2013, J. Forster wrote: This afternoon, I was in the crafts store Michaels and browsed the section for metal jewelery making. They actually have a very nice selection of various kinds of fine pliers, including needle and round nose, and various cutters. For things needing 'a bit of adjustment' they also had a fairly good collection of small hammers.
Prices were not cheap ($10 - $20) but today, there are few places where you can get a good look at tools before buying. Certainly, they have a far better selection than Sears or most chain hardware stores.
They also had some nice, small, thin metal sheets.
YMMV,
-John
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eBay lists the binding post assembly for 99 dollars. I see why you didn't want to pay it.
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----- Original Message ----- From: <d.seiter@...> To: "hp agilent equipment" <hp_agilent_equipment@...> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:07 PM Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Binding post repair? About a month ago I got a 3456A that had a few issues (test faults 4 and 7) including a really bent guard binding post. Trouble shooting the test errors had me going in circles, so I decided to look at the post issue. I knew from experience that just trying to bend it back was going to snap it off, but I just had to try anyway, and.... snap there it was in my hand. While the replacement assemblies with 5 binding posts are available, there is no way I'm going to pay for one! I'm thinking about drilling out the balance of the post and fitting a new insulated post in the hole. It doesn't even have to to be a screw post, just a banana jack would do. Anyone had to do this before? Oh, lest I forget, I was trying to remove the PCB behind the connector, but the center snap post wouldn't release, so I grabbed it with a channel lock and gave it a yank. Out it came, but the nice thing was that after I reinstalled it, and powered up the unit (thinking I probably made things worse!) it passed the tests and seems to be working fine. Previously, it did nothing but show "OL" on all functions. -Dave
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About a month ago I got a 3456A that had a few issues (test faults 4 and 7) including a really bent guard binding post. Trouble shooting the test errors had me going in circles, so I decided to look at the post issue. I knew from experience that just trying to bend it back was going to snap it off, but I just had to try anyway, and.... snap there it was in my hand. While the replacement assemblies with 5 binding posts are available, there is no way I'm going to pay for one! I'm thinking about drilling out the balance of the post and fitting a new insulated post in the hole. It doesn't even have to to be a screw post, just a banana jack would do. Anyone had to do this before? Oh, lest I forget, I was trying to remove the PCB behind the connector, but the center snap post wouldn't release, so I grabbed it with a channel lock and gave it a yank. Out it came, but the nice thing was that after I reinstalled it, and powered up the unit (thinking I probably made things worse!) it passed the tests and seems to be working fine. Previously, it did nothing but show "OL" on all functions. -Dave
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Re: CONNECTOR RECEPTACLE ELECTRICAL SCM22D/7-1HP
he bought the connector board was sunk lower and it cracked in the middle, someone has some this connector to me or sell me indicates it is really like this
Thanks?
Joarez
________________________________ De: jsiczkoriz <jsiczkoriz@...> Para: hp_agilent_equipment@... Enviadas: Sábado, 19 de Janeiro de 2013 16:52 Assunto: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: CONNECTOR RECEPTACLE ELECTRICAL SCM22D/7-1HP
? after buying the item on ebay :
3 pieces very happy I weld it on my HP3586B to put the same plate cracked in half, after he and soldering put another new same split in half to my surprise although 22 pins each route he and thinner to put the board splits in the middle, who can help me with the original connector can be used or direct me to some one who really
Thanks
Joarez
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Re: Foam conductor problems
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Dr. David Kirkby <david.kirkby@...> wrote: No, he is referring to a type of interboard connector which consists of stiff wires embedded in elastomer. It's in the same family as zebra strips, but works for higher current applications. Does it have to be conductive throughout the volume, or would surface conductivity do?
Neither, it's a nonconductive elastomer with wires embedded to provide conductivity along one axis only. I don't remember who made it. Anyway, the OP was saying that it's so unreliable that he replaced it with a hard connector, so he's not looking for a source.
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Re: A Source for Tools Etc
Their (and Hobby Lobby, Hobby Town USA, etc.) brass sheets would appear to make a good substrate for making a 'short' for calibrating 16047x attachments to HP LCR's. I have wanted to do this but haven't yet. The pattern is in various publications for the attachments and meters.
Anyone with experience with this? I have heard that these 'shorts' are available from Agilent for about $30 or so. I just looked on the Agilent website for part number 5000-4226, available at $28.03 but noticed that it has been replaced by P/N 16047-00640 at $8.88. What's wrong with this picture?
I guess you could get one from Agilent, use it as the 'reference', then check the 'home-made' one against it over time. However, for $8.88, why bother?
Joe
From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:47 PM To: ArmyRadios@... Cc: ARC5@...; GenRad@...; hp_agilent_equipment@...; Milsurplus@...; Tekscopes2@...; TestEquipTrader@...; Vintage-Military-RADAR@... Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] A Source for Tools Etc
This afternoon, I was in the crafts store Michaels and browsed the section for metal jewelery making. They actually have a very nice selection of various kinds of fine pliers, including needle and round nose, and various cutters. For things needing 'a bit of adjustment' they also had a fairly good collection of small hammers.
Prices were not cheap ($10 - $20) but today, there are few places where you can get a good look at tools before buying. Certainly, they have a far better selection than Sears or most chain hardware stores.
They also had some nice, small, thin metal sheets.
YMMV,
-John
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