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Re: HP8640B

 

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Thank you, Gianni!

MalwareBytes blocked the download, but I got it anyway by using "curl www.k100.biz/zparade/8640b.zip --output c:\temp\8640b.zip"

Regards,
Dave Wise


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gianni Becattini via groups.io <Giovanni.becattini@...>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 12:34 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP8640B
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Sorry for being late, I did not follow the thread.?

However, I put here all the documents I have on the 8640B here:


I hope you can find something helpful.

Gianni


Re: still possible to buy manuals from Artek media

 

On March 25, 2024 4:13:10 PM "Peter Hansen" <oz1lpr@...> wrote:
Hello Are the business still running so it is possible to buy manuals there ?

To the the best of my knowledge, they are up and running, but it would be best to consult their website.

-Dave

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still possible to buy manuals from Artek media

 

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Hello Are the business still running so it is possible to buy manuals there ?
best regards Peter


Re: A document about the 8165A

 

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On 25 Mar 2024, at 15:42, Gianni Becattini via <Giovanni.becattini@...> wrote:

Should someone be interested:

Glad for any suggestion/correction


Re: HP8640B

 

Sorry for being late, I did not follow the thread.?

However, I put here all the documents I have on the 8640B here:


I hope you can find something helpful.

Gianni


A document about the 8165A

 

Should someone be interested:

Glad for any suggestion/correction


Re: HP8640B

 

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Moderator: I will replace my 51MB file with a compressed 3MB file if you want.


From: David Wise <d44617665@...>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 10:26 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP8640B
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Make that "at least five versions".? See the Manual Changes insert for 08640-90186, Change 11 updates A10A2 to 08640-60357.

Dave Wise

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of factory <bobradios11@...>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 5:04 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP8640B
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For your 08460-60370 board you need to use the manual changes sheets pdf from 1984, with the 08640-90197 pdf bought from Artek, good luck with the repair.

David


Re: HP8640B

 

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Make that "at least five versions".? See the Manual Changes insert for 08640-90186, Change 11 updates A10A2 to 08640-60357.

Dave Wise


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of factory <bobradios11@...>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 5:04 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP8640B
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For your 08460-60370 board you need to use the manual changes sheets pdf from 1984, with the 08640-90197 pdf bought from Artek, good luck with the repair.

David


Re: HP8640B

 

In the Manual Changes, at page 7-38 is the PCB and a foldout at 7-39 for the schematic.
The second one is Fig 8-44 , PCB and schematic Fig 8-45.

Hope this helps
Jos


File /All HP, Agilent and Keysight instruments in folders by part numbers/8000 to 8999/8640B Signal Generator Service also Op &amp; Cal also Repair History Information/HP_8640B_Signal_Generator_Service_Manual-8640B_sup_1 Manual changes for 08640-90186 dated 13 Jun 1980.pdf uploaded #file-notice

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The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: Dave Wise <d44617665@...>

Description:
Manual Changes insert (printed 13 Jun 1980) for 8640B Service Manual 08640-90186 printed April 1978. New A10A2 08640-60354 at Change 11 (S/P 1927A), more at Change 17 (1943A).


Re: 11048C feed through termination data?

 

Here is some data from the web on Naming of the connectors. I guess because they were Americans, it is better for others to say, "No, its is N for Navy". However I have been a historical electro-technology guy for years, involved with museums, the MTT, a professional microwave engineer and a college professor and I cannot stress enough the SIGNIFICANT contribution Bell Labs made. Even in something as common as the coax connector. Mil Handbook 216 from the "40's would also be a good reference I would add that the first widespread usage of the N connector was NOT in Navy gear during WWII but in airborne Elint and Jammer equipment, Army Air Force. Jammer stuff! (Of which I have a fairly complete collection, also being a life member of the AoC).
Neill & Concelman should get their due.
The Navy name is laughable as the US Navy, like it British fore-bearer (spl? dont use this much), was VERY "hide-bound" rejecting radar until it was proven out, as an example. In the Naval ASB radar, which I have, they used a (I believe British derived) monstrosity for the coax connector, as it was only 200 MHz or so, so even things like UHF connectors worked! However, detecting and jamming radars such as the Wurzburg and it Giant brother at 550 MHz,needed better gear. You see the APQ-2 and APR-4 fitted with N's from the get go. I have not consulted the Rad Lab series yet (have the whole print set), but Radar detection took precedence in N connectors. Also the Harvard Lab- OSRD part 15 Countermeasure book may be a good source as was all jammer stuff.
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https://connectorsupplier.com/meet-the-connector-coaxial-connectors/
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Popular Coaxial Connector Types

N, C, BNC, TNC, and other coax series have been standardized. The popular SMA started as the BRM (for Bendix Research Miniature) in 1958, followed by SSMA, SMB, SMC, and others. The Type N connector, with a threaded coupling nut with?5/8¡± UNEF 24 turns per inch thread, met the need for a durable, weatherproof, higher power, and higher frequency connector. Type N was named for work by standards committee member Paul Neill of Bell Laboratories (New York City).?Originally for DC to 1 GHz, today versions are available for up to 11 and 18 GHz.?

flange mounted female (jack) N connectors, showing pin and socket center contacts

From left, male, cable plug, and flange mounted female (jack) N connectors, showing pin and socket center contacts. (Photos:?Pasternack Enterprises.)

Neill and Carl Concelman of Amphenol jointly developed the quick-connect (bayonet coupling) BNC connector to meet the demand for smaller connectors to work with the new smaller coaxial cables. The ¡°N¡± and ¡°C¡± came from their initials, and ¡°B¡± was either for ¡°baby,¡± because of its smaller size, or for ¡°bayonet.¡±??

J. Kruth

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Re: 11048C feed through termination data?

 

On 3/25/24 12:24, Robert G8RPI via groups.io wrote:
Yes
Bravo, I'm glad to hear it. Lots of people whine about errors in Wikipedia articles, but almost no one puts their money where there mouth is and corrects them.

-Dave

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New Kensington, PA


Re: 11048C feed through termination data?

 

Yes


Re: Agilent 8510C Nwtwork Analyzer Manuals

 

Has anyone seen CLIPs for the 8510C display unit?

Tom


Re: 11048C feed through termination data?

 

On 3/25/24 04:52, Robert G8RPI via groups.io wrote:
Well,? Wikipedia does not have any reference to support that. As you imply they are not always correct. Certainly entrys on things I have direct knowedge of have errors.
Have you edited the article(s) to make corrections?

-Dave

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Re: Agilent 8510C Nwtwork Analyzer Manuals

 

Contact me off line - how much and where are you located


Re: total newbie into GP-IB

 

If you're clever enough to figure it out, you can do a USB passthrough over ethernet
with Linux. I've done that in the past.

Not recommending that, just noting the point :-)

Paul

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 06:45:54AM -0700, Jan de Jongh wrote:

The main advantage of using Ethernet (instead of USB) is that you can run/develop software/scripts anywhere with Ethernet/IP access. With USB, you'd have to hook up a local machine. Also, TCP/IP sockets and Telnet connections are accessible from environments like Java, whereas USB is not (easily).

On the other hand, there seem to be more USB interfaces on the market than Ethernet interfaces.
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Re: total newbie into GP-IB

 

Hi Ruben,

I guess it depends a lot on whether you want NI compatibility or not. In the latter case, you'll need to do some substantial coding work. I left Windows decades ago, so for me that was a non issue and I went for an original ProLogix GPIB-Ethernet, and coded almost all my equipment in Java.

Before that, I bought an Agilent GPIB-USB interface which lasted one lousy Friday evening. Counterfeit. Lesson learned.

Unfortunately, at ProLogix's current price point, I would seriously consider other options like DIY.

The main advantage of using Ethernet (instead of USB) is that you can run/develop software/scripts anywhere with Ethernet/IP access. With USB, you'd have to hook up a local machine. Also, TCP/IP sockets and Telnet connections are accessible from environments like Java, whereas USB is not (easily).

On the other hand, there seem to be more USB interfaces on the market than Ethernet interfaces.

Anyways, just my 2 cents, admittedly somewhat from a developer's perspective.
Good luck with your choice/purchase,
Jan


Re: HP8640B

 

For your 08460-60370 board you need to use the manual changes sheets pdf from 1984, with the 08640-90197 pdf bought from Artek, good luck with the repair.

David


Re: HP8640B

 

David & GH thanks,
Sorry I replied to Jos before I saw your your answer GH.
Following the excellent suggestion of Jon above I downloaded the "HP 8640 B Service Manual Volumes 1 and 2 INC CCT Pn 08640-90215 May 1991 .pdf"
(Messy indeed! That's why I always prefer to buy the excellent searchable Arteks.)
I thought it was mine but no. It is only partly.
I then knew there were at least three different A10A2. I'll have a good look at the fourth now!
Thanks and I'll report here.
Renaud