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Re: Copy contents of floppy in 8753 VNA to a PC

 

Too bad they don't support X and an Ethernet port, or alternately a serial terminal port. Not a lot of other options besides a LIF formatted disk and GPIB/HPIB. I know hat some HP gear that supports X and also have a serial port, or support HPIB and have a serial terminal port allow the HPIB commands and data to be sent through the serial port as if it was an HPIB port. I have used this with some of my logic analyzers.

- The analyzer can output in serial. Perhaps capture that in a PC and use a simple BASIC or C program to strip and format the data automatically.
- I don't remember what the data printouts look like but wondering if the printer port could be hooked to a UART and data sent to the PC as serial data. Once at the PC, the data could be converted into a list of text values using a simple program in BASIC or C.? For printing, probably want EPSON mode. This could work if the analyzer does not have a serial printer port.
- I think the printer port can be put in GPIO mode and act like a parallel port. Same idea with a UART as above. Probably need a BASIC program to read the data and push it out the parallel port using the "OUTPUT @Nsomething" command. The BASIC commands are pretty powerful. Don't know if anyone has seriously tried this as it is probably not very obvious.

This has been a problem for a long time and most people end up circling back to using some GPIB adapter and custom GPIB software.

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Re: Suffering from RIFA anxiety!

 

I think this thread should have been named "RIFA Madness" (you know, in homage to the old movie...)
Jeff Kruth
Re: Hp 8590a eeprom problem.

 

Ah, I was about to go look that up.

It's not unheard of for 2816 and 2864 NVRAMs to fail.

-Dave

On 9/12/22 19:50, Glenn Little wrote:
The 1818-3499 is a HP part number.
It also crosses to X2864A manufacture code 10572.
Glenn
On 9/12/2022 5:21 PM, Richard Cook wrote:
I understand, but I'm looking to buy a replacement , the part numbers in the manual are NMOS 65536, also manufacturer 1818-3499, and manufacture code 28480.
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Re: Hp 8590a eeprom problem.

 

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The 1818-3499 is a HP part number.
It also crosses to X2864A manufacture code 10572.

Glenn

On 9/12/2022 5:21 PM, Richard Cook wrote:
I understand, but I'm looking to buy a replacement , the part numbers in the manual are NMOS 65536, also manufacturer 1818-3499, and manufacture code 28480.? 

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Re: Looking for Agilent PNA old FW repo?

 

There may have been "snapshots" taken at several times. Be sure to check any snapshots covering the time when you think the SW was listed. Also, if it was on HP FTP site you might look to see if wayback covered that anytime.

Cheers!

Bruce

Quoting "Kevin A. via groups.io" <kevin424@...>:

The wayback machine saved the page (same one I linked), but the actual firmware files are not saved on the wayback machine from what I can tell.
Re: Looking for Agilent PNA old FW repo?

 

The wayback machine saved the page (same one I linked), but the actual firmware files are not saved on the wayback machine from what I can tell.
Re: HP 5342A Microwave Counter and 5344A Source Synchronizer for sale

 

The HP 5344A has been sold. Thanks for looking.
Re: Hp 8590a eeprom problem.

Richard Cook
 

I understand, but I'm looking to buy a replacement , the part numbers in the manual are NMOS 65536, also manufacturer 1818-3499, and manufacture code 28480.?
Re: Suffering from RIFA anxiety!

 

I reached out to Schaffner directly and they said the following:

Our capacitor ratings X1, X2, Y1 or Y2, depending on the filter, and
should fail open. We use ceramic and Metalized Polypropylene Film caps
in our filters.

So, good news, new Schaffner filters should be free from metallized
paper failures.

Matt
Re: Hp 8590a eeprom problem.

 

Those are part numbers and date codes. The numbers ave nothing to do with the programming.

Cheers!

Bruce

Quoting Richard Cook <richardcook331@...>:

Yes I cleaned the contact points with alcohol and q tip, for the female receptacle part I used a acid brush and alcohol.
Well guess what, it worked good, put the cover back on and my friendly fail code 1310 appears again. How aggravating. It indicates eeprom u21. I got the part number off the IC PMI 8639 1826-1048. I'm not sure how to read the chip I see a lot of chip with 1826-1048 but not the first number 8639. Can someone enlighten me on this.
Thanks
Re: Hp 8590a eeprom problem.

Richard Cook
 

Yes I cleaned the contact points with alcohol and q tip, for the female receptacle part I used a acid brush and alcohol.??
Well guess what, it worked good, put the cover back on and my friendly fail code 1310 appears again. How aggravating. It indicates eeprom u21. I got the part number off the IC PMI 8639 1826-1048. I'm not sure how to read the chip I see a lot of chip with 1826-1048 but not the first number 8639. Can someone enlighten me on this.?
Thanks?
Re: 8341B vs 8673B

 

Matt -
AFIK, the source modules are not connected to the 8430 in the same way they are connected to the 8350 (and also, I believe to the 8673).

I'm just starting to play with the source modules (HP series) and will let you know. I believe I will need to use the 8510 multiplier technique.

Cheers!

Bruce

Quoting Bruce <bruce@...>:

Quoting Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@...>:

"Bruce" <bruce@...> writes:

Quoting Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@...>:
Something I've missed also. Where in the menus do you find the
appropriate settings ?? This would be convenient when using the mm
source modules.
I believe it's under System -> More -> EDIT MULT. SRC.

Take a look at Controlling Multiple Sources in the 8510C operating
manual. Forward a few pages there's a section entitled "SOURCE 1 Formula
Use". This allows you to apply offsets and multiplications to a source.

If you have the official HP/Agilent mm source modules, these should have
a bus that does this for you; i.e., you don't need to mess with these
menus.

If you don't have the official modules, then this would indeed be the
approach.

Matt
Re: 8341B vs 8673B

 

Quoting Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@...>:

"Bruce" <bruce@...> writes:

Quoting Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@...>:
Something I've missed also. Where in the menus do you find the
appropriate settings ?? This would be convenient when using the mm
source modules.
I believe it's under System -> More -> EDIT MULT. SRC.

Take a look at Controlling Multiple Sources in the 8510C operating
manual. Forward a few pages there's a section entitled "SOURCE 1 Formula
Use". This allows you to apply offsets and multiplications to a source.

If you have the official HP/Agilent mm source modules, these should have
a bus that does this for you; i.e., you don't need to mess with these
menus.

If you don't have the official modules, then this would indeed be the
approach.

Matt
Re: 8341B vs 8673B

 

Matt -
Sure - I just never thought about it that way - I was thinking that the 8340 would be where the configuration was done.

No problem

Cheers!

Bruce

Quoting Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@...>:

Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@...> writes:

Take a look at Controlling Multiple Sources in the 8510C operating
manual. Forward a few pages there's a section entitled "SOURCE 1 Formula
Use". This allows you to apply offsets and multiplications to a source.
I should clarify this statement as it's somewhat poorly phrased. The
8510C doesn't apply frequency offsets or multiply your RF source
signal. It simply tells the RF source to generate a frequency that is
some combination of offset and multiple or submultiple of the displayed
frequency for a given sweep point. Probably obvious, but worth
clarifying. This is all explained in the manual.

Matt
Re: 8341B vs 8673B

 

Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@...> writes:

Take a look at Controlling Multiple Sources in the 8510C operating
manual. Forward a few pages there's a section entitled "SOURCE 1 Formula
Use". This allows you to apply offsets and multiplications to a source.
I should clarify this statement as it's somewhat poorly phrased. The
8510C doesn't apply frequency offsets or multiply your RF source
signal. It simply tells the RF source to generate a frequency that is
some combination of offset and multiple or submultiple of the displayed
frequency for a given sweep point. Probably obvious, but worth
clarifying. This is all explained in the manual.

Matt
Re: 8341B vs 8673B

 

"Bruce" <bruce@...> writes:

Quoting Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@...>:
Something I've missed also. Where in the menus do you find the
appropriate settings ?? This would be convenient when using the mm
source modules.
I believe it's under System -> More -> EDIT MULT. SRC.

Take a look at Controlling Multiple Sources in the 8510C operating
manual. Forward a few pages there's a section entitled "SOURCE 1 Formula
Use". This allows you to apply offsets and multiplications to a source.

If you have the official HP/Agilent mm source modules, these should have
a bus that does this for you; i.e., you don't need to mess with these
menus.

If you don't have the official modules, then this would indeed be the
approach.

Matt
Re: Suffering from RIFA anxiety!

 

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Yes, the RIFA caps in question are Y and X caps. ?You are not supposed to replace them with some random cap!?


Wilko
Re: 8341B vs 8673B

 

Quoting Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@...>:
Something I've missed also. Where in the menus do you find the appropriate settings ?? This would be convenient when using the mm source modules.

Cheers!

Bruce

"gianni chiodo" <chiodo.gianni@...> writes:

You set the 8340B with x4 multiplier and the multiplier out using an
attenuator goes to the 8517 .
Using the 8340B multiplier feature the 8510 ask for let me say sweep from
26 to 52 GHz and the 8340 perform in accordance so set the correct sweep 4
times lower .
Even using 8340B stand alone the reading is the multiplied frequency.
I use the same approach connecting the Gigatronics scalar analyzer .
If i have to go lower than 26 GHz i connect direct the 8340B to the 8515
without the multiplier or multiplier x1.
thats all.
That's a cool capability I wasn't aware of. Thanks for pointing that out
Gianni. It would be nice if the 8510 could control a switch driver
controlling a pair of switches too. That way, you could get the full 10
MHz to 52 GHz in one sweep. That would be useful for things like time
domain low pass mode. I didn't see anything about that in the manual
though.

Matt
Re: 8341B vs 8673B

 

"gianni chiodo" <chiodo.gianni@...> writes:

You set the 8340B with x4 multiplier and the multiplier out using an
attenuator goes to the 8517 .
Using the 8340B multiplier feature the 8510 ask for let me say sweep from
26 to 52 GHz and the 8340 perform in accordance so set the correct sweep 4
times lower .
Even using 8340B stand alone the reading is the multiplied frequency.
I use the same approach connecting the Gigatronics scalar analyzer .
If i have to go lower than 26 GHz i connect direct the 8340B to the 8515
without the multiplier or multiplier x1.
thats all.
That's a cool capability I wasn't aware of. Thanks for pointing that out
Gianni. It would be nice if the 8510 could control a switch driver
controlling a pair of switches too. That way, you could get the full 10
MHz to 52 GHz in one sweep. That would be useful for things like time
domain low pass mode. I didn't see anything about that in the manual
though.

Matt
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