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Re: Test Downtime Costing You Money?

 

On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 at 14:58, Lothar baier <Lothar@...> wrote:
You are looking at this from the standpoint of a small business, ?how much do you think the contractual penalties are for a company like boeing if they have a committed to deliver a plane by date xy and slip schedule because a critical instrument is down? Or if a company like Nokia agreed to deliver 10000 DTRX units to verizon ?? Any slip in schedule if you produce stuff like this not only has the potential for contractual penalties but in addition you still have to pay employees and utilities to keep equipment on a line running that is idle !?

Obviously losses due to downtime are going to be higher with larger companies, To me, the number is meaningless. What meaning can you attach to what Keysight wrote?

I expect lives have been lost in hospitals due to equipment downtime.

To me it is meaningless crap.

Dave

Re: BS, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

 

On 3/17/22 21:37, Lothar baier wrote:
Dave with all due respect , I been selling microwave parts at local hamfests for over 10 years so I know the crowd that builds stuff , license statistics mean nothing , there might be more hams than 10 years ago but most of them are plug and play !
No, the kids aren't buying microwave parts at hamfests. This is what I was meant when I said "it is DIFFERENT now". They are buying parts from Adafruit, SparkFun, and Amazon, and hundreds of other places. And they are building stuff like crazy.

And yes, ham radio has changed too. I was first licensed in the early 1980s; I've watched it changed quite a lot over the years. A lot of the inventiveness has moved to software, where even people with no money or no mobility can be creative. Have you seen any of these new-fangled digital modes? Some of them are downright amazing. License statistics mean quite a bit; they're not giving them out to people who haven't asked for them.

It is not so bleak as you say. Actually it's not bleak at all. It is wholly unreasonable to assume that nothing in as forward-looking a field as this one will never change, and then complain when it does.

...And I can analyze those signals with my 89441A!

-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Re: BS, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

Lothar baier
 

Dave with all due respect , I been selling microwave parts at local hamfests for over 10 years so I know the crowd that builds stuff , license statistics mean nothing , there might be more hams than 10 years ago but most of them are plug and play !
As far as kids concerns - I worked as a research engineer at the UT dallas eric johnnson school of engineering in the RF and THz lab for 7 years so I been around a lot of students and attented many Highschool outreach events ...... it may be different in other states I cant attest to this ...
Anyway this is getting off topic and I am not beating this horse to death any further

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 8:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: BS, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

On 3/17/22 21:16, Lothar baier wrote:
Nowadays things are different , good luck trying to get kids
interested in electronics or ham radio they rather spend time on
social media ,
Wrong. Electronics as a hobby is far, far larger than it has ever been an ANY time in the past. You're apparently not looking in the right places. It is DIFFERENT now, and that's ok. Kids aren't winding coils on Quaker Oats cans and screwing Fahnestock clips down to pieces of wood (well, some are, but not as many as there were in the 1950s), but plenty of young people are "doing electronics", and they're doing it just fine.

Further, amateur radio is alive and well. I suggest that you look up the statistics on issuance of licenses.

It's very common for older people to say things like this, all the time, all over the place. I hear old farts complaining at each other at hamfest "this hobby's DYIN'!", over and over. They've not looked at the licensing statistics either.

I expect that the same goes for our topic of discussion here, test equipment. Though too many of these kids don't recognize high-quality test equipment when they see it, with the "nano" "oscilloscopes" and such flooding the market for a few tens of dollars. It's up to us to EDUCATE them and help them understand.

Not sit on a mailing list spouting "woe is me, everything I love is disappearing" when, in reality, it really isn't.

-Dave, getting into a very bad mood

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
BS, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

 

On 3/17/22 21:16, Lothar baier wrote:
Nowadays things are different , good luck trying to get kids interested in electronics or ham radio they rather spend time on social media ,
Wrong. Electronics as a hobby is far, far larger than it has ever been an ANY time in the past. You're apparently not looking in the right places. It is DIFFERENT now, and that's ok. Kids aren't winding coils on Quaker Oats cans and screwing Fahnestock clips down to pieces of wood (well, some are, but not as many as there were in the 1950s), but plenty of young people are "doing electronics", and they're doing it just fine.

Further, amateur radio is alive and well. I suggest that you look up the statistics on issuance of licenses.

It's very common for older people to say things like this, all the time, all over the place. I hear old farts complaining at each other at hamfest "this hobby's DYIN'!", over and over. They've not looked at the licensing statistics either.

I expect that the same goes for our topic of discussion here, test equipment. Though too many of these kids don't recognize high-quality test equipment when they see it, with the "nano" "oscilloscopes" and such flooding the market for a few tens of dollars. It's up to us to EDUCATE them and help them understand.

Not sit on a mailing list spouting "woe is me, everything I love is disappearing" when, in reality, it really isn't.

-Dave, getting into a very bad mood

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Re: Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

 

They do, and they have grown significantly in size. They had to move to a bigger place last year.

On 17-Mar-22 13:31, Jeremy Nichols wrote:
Excess Solutions in San Jose may still exist; they ‘inherited’ some/much of the stuff from Wierdstuff and HSC.

Jeremy
N6WFO

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:58 PM paulswed <paulswedb@...> wrote:

Wilco
I think all of my California surplus business cards are bad.
Weirdstuff?went out of business maybe 5-7 years ago. That leaves
only 2 companies left and by now maybe none.
You seem to have on occasion run across fantastic deals.
Enjoy
Paul
WB8TSL
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Re: Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

Lothar baier
 

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Gone are the days of DRMOs and surplus stores ….. yeah I hear dave on that one but lets face it the entire ham /hobby scene has been changing ,? back when I started with electronics at 15 years of age a lot of folks were tinkering with electronics both hams and no hams , we had a company named Conrad Elektronik who sold surplus US Army radios by the pound and they always had a good crowd , helmut singer in Aachen also made good bucks selling all kinds of surplus mostly from US and French armed forces as well as surplus stuff from universities and defense companies and in munich there was a 3 mile stretch going from the main train station to the city center that had tons of surplus stores selling surplus acquired from siemens , rohde and Messerschmitt all located in or around munich !

Nowadays things are different , good luck trying to get kids interested in electronics or ham radio they rather spend time on social media , the few hams that still tinker and build stuff are either working in the industry or are in their late 40s and up so the demand is not there anymore ,? meanwhile ebay and the internet has opened a new much easier sales channel , where companies used to sell their surplus to local dealers they now resort to online auctions and the employees who got their hands on stuff by the way of employee sales to sell it at hamfests are now just putting stuff on ebay , its faster and more convenient !

Beside of the fact that new microwave parts have gotten cheaper every year too so the ones who still tinker just buy new parts

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Seiter via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 7:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

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Annoying- just because a garden variety scope set up was used as part of a test procedure for some fighter in the 70's, it's "controlled".? I got two notices in the late 2000s for Tek auction items that fell into that category (from Govbid, I think).? Fortunately, both had been scrapped due to breakage/abuse.

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-Dave

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On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 02:27:06 PM PDT, <n8zmtwh@...> wrote:

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NO, Uncle Sam's suits implemented ITAR and rather than trying to have bureaucrats figure out what was covered and what wasn't, they just destroy all of it.

Tom, N8ZM

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 4:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

On 3/17/22 14:56, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> Blast.. I am envious! So much nice stuff for sale over in the US of A... And for a song, compared to what we can get over here (in NL that is).
>
> Still have the fluorescent orange business card from Weird Stuff, from when I first visited the
> US ?

? It's nowhere near as great as it used to be; the suits have wrecked
that too.? Gone are the glorious DRMO (Dept. of Defense) surplus
auctions, gone are nearly all of the great surplus stores.? After all,
precious snowflake little Jimmy might cut his finger on something and
the company would get sued out of existence!

? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Re: 8903B Gooey Crystal

 

GUYS. Enough with this. I am getting off-list complaints about off-topic BS. Everyone knows California is insane, there's no reason to beat it to death here.

-Dave, list moderator, getting very aggravated

On 3/17/22 21:09, Dave Seiter wrote:
EVERYTHING causes cancer here in California.? It's honestly a big joke because just about every store/business has the sign posted.
-Dave
On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 02:18:09 PM PDT, n8zmTWH@... <n8zmtwh@...> wrote:
Or it could have been the EPA nixed the good stuff. You know, this crap is known(?) to cause cancer to citizens of California!
Tom, N8ZM
*From:*[email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jim Ford
*Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2022 10:20 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8903B Gooey Crystal
Why a drop in quality in a later model?? There can only be one answer: some suit got a bonus for using a cheaper material.? Can I get a witness?
Jim Ford
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
-------- Original message --------
From: Michael Kellett <mk@... <mailto:mk@...>>
Date: 3/17/22 2:21 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8903B Gooey Crystal
The Analyser's last known address was Cambridge, England. Damp, but cooler than Florida !
I made a mistake in my previous posts. I'm working on an 8903A and the 8903B at the same time. After I discovered the goo in the 8903B I picked up and photographed the pcb screen from the 8903A.
The 'A has brown sticky back foam which looks OK.
But when I looked at the pcb screen from the 'B all was revealed. It has black foam with clear signs of oozing and movement. I've pulled it off. I found the best way to get rid of the residue left on the screen was to warm it with a heat gun and rub it off with paper towels. (IPA turns it into disgusting sticky rubbery balls that are hard to remove.)
The pictures show the pcb screen from the 8903B. I wonder why HP went backwards in foam quality between the A and the B instruments.
MK
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Re: 8903B Gooey Crystal

 

EVERYTHING causes cancer here in California.? It's honestly a big joke because just about every store/business has the sign posted.

-Dave

On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 02:18:09 PM PDT, n8zmTWH@... <n8zmtwh@...> wrote:


Or it could have been the EPA nixed the good stuff. You know, this crap is known(?) to cause cancer to citizens of California!

?

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Tom, N8ZM

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Ford
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 10:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8903B Gooey Crystal

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Why a drop in quality in a later model?? There can only be one answer: some suit got a bonus for using a cheaper material.? Can I get a witness?

?

Jim Ford

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Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

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-------- Original message --------

From: Michael Kellett <mk@...>

Date: 3/17/22 2:21 AM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8903B Gooey Crystal

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The Analyser's last known address was Cambridge, England. Damp, but cooler than Florida !

I made a mistake in my previous posts. I'm working on an 8903A and the 8903B at the same time. After I discovered the goo in the 8903B I picked up and photographed the pcb screen from the 8903A.
The 'A has brown sticky back foam which looks OK.
But when I looked at the pcb screen from the 'B all was revealed. It has black foam with clear signs of oozing and movement. I've pulled it off. I found the best way to get rid of the residue left on the screen was to warm it with a heat gun and rub it off with paper towels. (IPA turns it into disgusting sticky rubbery balls that are hard to remove.)

The pictures show the pcb screen from the 8903B. I wonder why HP went backwards in foam quality between the A and the B instruments.

MK
Re: Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

Lothar baier
 

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We had one in dallas when I moved back in 96 I hated the store with a passion ,? they hardly ever had the items they advertised in the sale flyer and tried to upsell you , they were ok on tools and soldering stuff and some components but I rather took the drive over to tanner

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Seiter via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 8:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

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I don't miss Fry's; for computer items they were ok, but every time I went looking for components, they never had what I wanted, or what they had was seriously overpriced.

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-Dave

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On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:20:33 PM PDT, Ozan <ozan_g@...> wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 03:08 PM, 搁别苍é别 wrote:

Paul-
I think the only two I know in Calif. are Excess Solutions in San Jose area and Apex in So Calif. ( is it San Fernando Valley?), I love Apex! it has been 2 or 3 years since I visited either.
搁别苍é别

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Excess Solutions moved to a new location down the same street but it is still around. Anchor electronics in Santa Clara has some used equipment in addition to a good selection of new and NOS components. They have a small, well organized store. Unfortunately both Halted and Weird Stuff (and Fry's !) long gone.?

Ozan

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Re: Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

 

I don't miss Fry's; for computer items they were ok, but every time I went looking for components, they never had what I wanted, or what they had was seriously overpriced.

-Dave

On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:20:33 PM PDT, Ozan <ozan_g@...> wrote:


On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 03:08 PM, 搁别苍é别 wrote:
Paul-
I think the only two I know in Calif. are Excess Solutions in San Jose area and Apex in So Calif. ( is it San Fernando Valley?), I love Apex! it has been 2 or 3 years since I visited either.
搁别苍é别

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Excess Solutions moved to a new location down the same street but it is still around. Anchor electronics in Santa Clara has some used equipment in addition to a good selection of new and NOS components. They have a small, well organized store. Unfortunately both Halted and Weird Stuff (and Fry's !) long gone.?

Ozan

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Re: Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

 

Annoying- just because a garden variety scope set up was used as part of a test procedure for some fighter in the 70's, it's "controlled".? I got two notices in the late 2000s for Tek auction items that fell into that category (from Govbid, I think).? Fortunately, both had been scrapped due to breakage/abuse.

-Dave

On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 02:27:06 PM PDT, <n8zmtwh@...> wrote:


NO, Uncle Sam's suits implemented ITAR and rather than trying to have bureaucrats figure out what was covered and what wasn't, they just destroy all of it.

Tom, N8ZM


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 4:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

On 3/17/22 14:56, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> Blast.. I am envious! So much nice stuff for sale over in the US of A... And for a song, compared to what we can get over here (in NL that is).
>
> Still have the fluorescent orange business card from Weird Stuff, from when I first visited the
> US ?

? It's nowhere near as great as it used to be; the suits have wrecked
that too.? Gone are the glorious DRMO (Dept. of Defense) surplus
auctions, gone are nearly all of the great surplus stores.? After all,
precious snowflake little Jimmy might cut his finger on something and
the company would get sued out of existence!

? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Re: Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

 

Frys is gone, liquidated completely everywhere.
Dead 2 years most everywhere with no stock in the store prior to that.
Sorry
Jim

On 3/17/2022 4:11 PM, Tom Phillips wrote:
Hey you still have Frys?!?? Here in Austin tx ours is long gone..
Re: Spread the word -- Swap Meet Returns!

 

Hey you still have Frys?!?? Here in Austin tx ours is long gone..


On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 8:23 PM Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:
Thanks!? I was thinking about looking it up as I drove past Fry's the other day, but forgot.??

-Dave (also in Sunnyvale)

On Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 06:15:15 PM PDT, Bruce Lane <kyrrin@...> wrote:


??? The 47-year tradition of the SF Bay Area's monthly electronics swap
meet (the ASVARO event) is back! Spread the word...
Re: OT: Anyone know where to get EDC manuals?

Lothar baier
 

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Helpfulness sometimes depends a lot on your email extensions , I had companies where I did not get any response from my private email but as soon as the email came from my .nsn or later utd.edu email – bingo

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Lee via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] OT: Anyone know where to get EDC manuals?

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Some companies choose not to post their old manuals on their websites, but are happy to email you copies upon request. I've found BK and Krohn-Hite to be incredibly kind, for example. And your requests do not appear to trigger an avalanche of spam, so their policy doesn't seem to be in place to harvest contacts.

So, if googling fails to turn up what you need, sometimes shooting them an email request does the trick.

--Tom

-- 
Prof. Thomas H. Lee
Allen Ctr., Rm. 205
350 Jane Stanford Way
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-4070




On 3/17/2022 15:30, David M wrote:






Paul,

I found the EDC/Krohn-Hite 3200 manual by first Googling for

EDC OR 'Electronic Development Corporation" 3200 calibrator manual



Didn't find anything useful by that search, but since I knew that EDC is now a part of Krohn-Hite, I searched for

"Krohn-Hite" 3200 calibrator manual

and that turned up the??link.



I also have a list of sites that have manuals that I visit when a simple Google search doesn't get any useful hits.

The manualslib site was the only one that had a manual for the 3200 calibrator.? Even Krohn-Hite's site didn't have the correct 3200 manual.



Cheers,

DaveM





On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 02:55 PM, paulswed wrote:








I think I missed it. How would you find EDC manuals please?






Regards






Paul






WB8TSL










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Dear All,

Well more recent far eastern-sourced plastic products have displayed much shorter lifetimes than the hp foam- I have a radio, where the case went gooey in less than 5 years and cable where the jacket has gone gooey in two years.

It is hard to know what is in a plastic compared to specification. A real challenge in product engineering.

Regards,

Alwyn



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SynOptika Ltd.,
114 Beaufort Street,
London,
SW3 6BU,
England.


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Registered Office: 114 Beaufort Street, London, SW3 6BU, United Kingdom.
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    Some companies choose not to post their old manuals on their
    websites, but are happy to email you copies upon request. I've found
    BK and Krohn-Hite to be incredibly kind, for example. And your
    requests do not appear to trigger an avalanche of spam, so their
    policy doesn't seem to be in place to harvest contacts.

    

    So, if googling fails to turn up what you need, sometimes shooting
    them an email request does the trick.

    

    --Tom

    
-- 
Prof. Thomas H. Lee
Allen Ctr., Rm. 205
350 Jane Stanford Way
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-4070


    
On 3/17/2022 15:30, David M wrote:

    

    

				
					
					

					



      
      Paul,

      I found the EDC/Krohn-Hite 3200 manual by first Googling for

      EDC OR 'Electronic Development Corporation" 3200 calibrator manual

      

      Didn't find anything useful by that search, but since I knew that
      EDC is now a part of Krohn-Hite, I searched for

      "Krohn-Hite" 3200 calibrator manual

      and that turned up the??link.

      

      I also have a list of sites that have manuals that I visit when a
      simple Google search doesn't get any useful hits.

      The manualslib site was the only one that had a manual for the
      3200 calibrator.? Even Krohn-Hite's site didn't have the correct
      3200 manual.

      

      Cheers,

      DaveM

      

      

      On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 02:55 PM, paulswed wrote:

      

        

          
I think I missed it. How would you find
            EDC manuals please?

          
Regards

          
Paul

          
WB8TSL

        

      

      
    

    

  


					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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Oh that burns me up!? They reused a model number.? In my world, the Krohn-Hite 3200 is a tunable active filter, not a calibrator.


(And a very useful one, when I use my HP 5210A Frequency Meter, I put the 3200 in LPF mode on the Discriminator output so I can see the deviation instead of the carrier.)


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Dave Wise


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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David M via groups.io

Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 3:30 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] OT: Anyone know where to get EDC manuals?



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Paul,

I found the EDC/Krohn-Hite 3200 manual by first Googling for

EDC OR 'Electronic Development Corporation" 3200 calibrator manual



Didn't find anything useful by that search, but since I knew that EDC is now a part of Krohn-Hite, I searched for

"Krohn-Hite" 3200 calibrator manual

and that turned up the??link.



I also have a list of sites that have manuals that I visit when a simple Google search doesn't get any useful hits.

The manualslib site was the only one that had a manual for the 3200 calibrator.? Even Krohn-Hite's site didn't have the correct 3200 manual.



Cheers,

DaveM





On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 02:55 PM, paulswed wrote:








I think I missed it. How would you find EDC manuals please?






Regards






Paul






WB8TSL

















					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

							Re: OT: Anyone know where to get EDC manuals?
							
						
					

				

				

			
			

				

					


						
							

								
								
							

						
					

					

						
							


						
						 
						
							
							
						
						
					

				

			

			

			

				
Paul,
I found the EDC/Krohn-Hite 3200 manual by first Googling for
EDC OR 'Electronic Development Corporation" 3200 calibrator manual

Didn't find anything useful by that search, but since I knew that EDC is now a part of Krohn-Hite, I searched for
"Krohn-Hite" 3200 calibrator manual
and that turned up the??link.

I also have a list of sites that have manuals that I visit when a simple Google search doesn't get any useful hits.
The manualslib site was the only one that had a manual for the 3200 calibrator.? Even Krohn-Hite's site didn't have the correct 3200 manual.

Cheers,
DaveM



				
					
					

					


On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 02:55 PM, paulswed wrote:






I think I missed it. How would you find EDC manuals please?


Regards


Paul


WB8TSL





					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 03:08 PM, 搁别苍é别 wrote:


Paul-
I think the only two I know in Calif. are Excess Solutions in San Jose area and Apex in So Calif. ( is it San Fernando Valley?), I love Apex! it has been 2 or 3 years since I visited either.
搁别苍é别


---
Excess Solutions moved to a new location down the same street but it is still around. Anchor electronics in Santa Clara has some used equipment in addition to a good selection of new and NOS components. They have a small, well organized store. Unfortunately both Halted and Weird Stuff (and Fry's !) long gone.?

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On 3/17/22 18:04, 搁别苍é别 wrote:
only those that do not know much and are afraid of everything ( they are our elected leaders). Also seems like the regular folks living in the high density population centers have the same tilt......I unfortunately live in the peoples republic of California where even common sense is legislated.
  Guys, I hate topic nazis so I doubly hate being one.  Please, let's call this subject done.

              -Dave, list moderator

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New Kensington, PA

				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
	

	
	
	
	


	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	
	

		
		
		
		
	



	

		

			
	
		

			
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