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Re: FS HP/AGILENT 70205A MMS display

 


I¡¯m in Northern California, near Sacramento.
Mike

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 10:55 AM Pete_G4GJL <g4gjl.uk@...> wrote:
Where are you?

Pete

On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 12:14, jfphp via <jfphp=[email protected]> wrote:
For sale small display for the 70K MMS system. Tested OK but the front faceplate and RFI gasket are missing : front plate of the CRT is directly exposed (like the old 180X oscilloscopese are you), very bright display but don't use a hammer to adjust the tube... PM please.


Re: FS HP/AGILENT 70205A MMS display

 

Where are you?

Pete

On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 12:14, jfphp via <jfphp=[email protected]> wrote:
For sale small display for the 70K MMS system. Tested OK but the front faceplate and RFI gasket are missing : front plate of the CRT is directly exposed (like the old 180X oscilloscopese are you), very bright display but don't use a hammer to adjust the tube... PM please.


Re: HP 182T display/8559A SA - display only visible with beam find.

 

with one BNC cable connect the out D BNC on the back to the ext imput BNC on the front (push on EXT) then cek if retrace

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Sent:?Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:40 PM
From:?"Tony" <tonycox01@...>
To:[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 182T display/8559A SA - display only visible with beam find.
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 14:55, Francesco <realfran@...> wrote:
Hello Tony, when pushing the button "DISPLAY" get a vertical beam?

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Re: HP8903B - Plotting from HP-IB

 

Hello everyone,
I finally got the HP8903B and it works perfectly.
I tried to connect the Prologix interface to the HP-IB connector of the HP8903B and to the PC where I installed some programs for dialogue on the HP-IB bus.
One of the programs works perfectly, but those of Pete Millett that interested me the most, when I press Start the following error window comes out:
Attempted action not supported
Error number: 313
In transaction number 1
Object title: Audio Analyzer (@ 714)
Object type: Direct I / O

I don't know how to correct this error.
Can you help me, thanks.


-- Cheers
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Re: HP 8970B calibration / account for loss during calibration

 

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Are you measuring 50 or 75 ohm devices??

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If 50 ohm devices, then the pad has to go on the output of the noise source, which affects the ENR of the source¡¯s input to the DUT, and needs to be accounted for in the ENR table. If you are using a nominal 5 dB source, that gets the ENR down close to zero, which, for high gain, low noise devices, is actually a good thing so long as it doesn¡¯t go negative. With a 15 dB ENR source, no problem but the table still needs to be corrected for the pad.

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If you are measuring 75 ohm devices, then the pad will go on the input to the NF meter, and the cal will take care of it.

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SF34 is there, as you said, to correct for things that were not present during the cal process. This is always an approximation so best avoided if you can as it increases the measurement uncertainty, which is going to be around .2 dB at best.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marc73
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 2:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 8970B calibration / account for loss during calibration #141-66513

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Is it possible to account for a loss between HP8970B and the noise source during calibration? I.e. to have the same loss during calibration and during the measurement.

The HP 8970B manual says, that special function 34 (loss compensation) assumes that the loss wasn't present during calibration.

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Background: I have 75Ohm noise sources and I would like to use them in combination with the HP8970B. As this instrument has 50Ohm system impedance a permanent 75<->50 Ohm matching pad (5,72 dB loss) has to be used to transfer the system impedance. However this has to be accounted for during the calibration and measurement.


Re: HP 182T display/8559A SA - display only visible with beam find.

 

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 14:55, Francesco <realfran@...> wrote:
Hello Tony, when pushing the button "DISPLAY" get a vertical beam?


HP 8970B calibration / account for loss during calibration

 

Is it possible to account for a loss between HP8970B and the noise source during calibration? I.e. to have the same loss during calibration and during the measurement.
The HP 8970B manual says, that special function 34 (loss compensation) assumes that the loss wasn't present during calibration.
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Background: I have 75Ohm noise sources and I would like to use them in combination with the HP8970B. As this instrument has 50Ohm system impedance a permanent 75<->50 Ohm matching pad (5,72 dB loss) has to be used to transfer the system impedance. However this has to be accounted for during the calibration and measurement.


Re: FS HP/AGILENT 70205A MMS display

 

I¡¯m interested. Did you have a price in mind?
Mike

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 4:14 AM jfphp via <jfphp=[email protected]> wrote:
For sale small display for the 70K MMS system. Tested OK but the front faceplate and RFI gasket are missing : front plate of the CRT is directly exposed (like the old 180X oscilloscopes), very bright display but don't use a hammer to adjust the tube... PM please.


Re: Selling experience, sorry OT again

 

Dr Dave,
Just put a long Dispatch Time in when you list an item. I use 5 Days. (next option is 10) That is the time you hve from the buyer paying and you shipping before it affects your seller ratings. I find 5 days is enough for payment to be cleared into my bank account.

Robert G8RPI


Agilent 86100B recovery operating system software

 

For sale genuine? recovery operating system software ( envelope, CD, licence and recovery instructions --86100-00036-- ) for Infinium DCA 86100B. MP please.


Re: HP 182T display/8559A SA - display only visible with beam find.

 

Hello Tony, when pushing the button "DISPLAY" get a vertical beam?


Re: HP 182T display/8559A SA - display only visible with beam find.

 

FWIW, I've repaired a good number of 182C and 182T in a distant past
and often there was a carbon composition resistor (100 ohms) going
open in the cathode drive circuit.
Frank

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 3:07 PM paulswed <paulswedb@...> wrote:

Well at least the problem is big and bold.
When just beam fid works it will be any of the following.
Blanking Z is cutoff for some reason.
X or Y or both are totally unbalanced. Typically some sort of supply failure if you find the delection all the way to one side.
But if just x or y then most likely a transistor in that deflection circuit.
Generally reasonable to find.
Good luck
Paul
WB8TSL


Re: HP 182T display/8559A SA - display only visible with beam find.

 

Well at least the problem is big and bold.
When just beam fid works it will be any of the following.
Blanking Z is cutoff for some reason.
X or Y or both are totally unbalanced. Typically some sort of supply failure if you find the delection all the way to one side.
But if just x or y then most likely a transistor in that deflection circuit.
Generally reasonable to find.
Good luck
Paul
WB8TSL


Re: HP 182T display/8559A SA - display only visible with beam find.

 

No, I'm in the UK



On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 10:32, Francesco <realfran@...> wrote:
you hare locate on USA?
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Sent:?Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 7:54 AM
From:?"Tony" <tonycox01@...>
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 182T display/8559A SA - display only visible with beam find.
No - I have not been able to work out what is going on at all. I have two units affected in the?same way. Its pretty frustrating!
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Tony
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 23:21, Francesco <realfran@...> wrote:
Hello Tony, I got the same problem when I switch on work for 30 minutes after starting fading, if I push the "find beam" display only visible with beam find. Do you find the fault?
Best regards.
Francesco.

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Re: Selling experience, sorry OT again

 

[quote] I don¡¯t like their new payment system. [/quote]

Same here. eBay Managed Payments is a bookeeping nightmare. But payments have been made the day after shipment quite reliably.


FS HP/AGILENT 70205A MMS display

 

For sale small display for the 70K MMS system. Tested OK but the front faceplate and RFI gasket are missing : front plate of the CRT is directly exposed (like the old 180X oscilloscopes), very bright display but don't use a hammer to adjust the tube... PM please.


Re: Selling experience, sorry OT again

 

PayPal fees for FX are incredibly high, 3..5% worst foreign currency exchange rate, plus fees, etc.

You always have the option to dump epay all together and simply sell on your own website, our firm has done so since 1995, and never sell on epay.

For epay, What about payment via bank transfer? Physical paper bank check? Still.aloowed?

Jon


Re: HP 182T display/8559A SA - display only visible with beam find.

 

you hare locate on USA?
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Sent:?Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 7:54 AM
From:?"Tony" <tonycox01@...>
To:[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 182T display/8559A SA - display only visible with beam find.
No - I have not been able to work out what is going on at all. I have two units affected in the?same way. Its pretty frustrating!
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Tony
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 23:21, Francesco <realfran@...> wrote:

Hello Tony, I got the same problem when I switch on work for 30 minutes after starting fading, if I push the "find beam" display only visible with beam find. Do you find the fault?
Best regards.
Francesco.

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Re: Selling experience, sorry OT again

 

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Worse than that. Bay charges a higher transaction fee than PayPal.

73 de Brian,VK2GCE

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd
Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2022 8:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Selling experience, sorry OT again

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 02:33, peter bunge <bunge.pjp@...> wrote:

I sold something on Ebay but my money was put on hold for 2 weeks. My item is already delivered.
Here is the explanation:

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I may have no option than to accept eBays new terms and conditions, as I am losing sales. But at the minute, I have no auctions for VNA calibration kits on eBay, as I don¡¯t like their new payment system.?

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At least when payments were made via PayPal, you could confirm receipt of payment before shipping goods, we no longer have that.?

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I have definitely lost business as a result of not accepting eBay¡¯s new payment system, but I think it is morally wrong.?

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eBay are now getting interest-free loans on every transaction.?

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Dave

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Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom


Re: Selling experience, sorry OT again

 

On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 02:33, peter bunge <bunge.pjp@...> wrote:
I sold something on Ebay but my money was put on hold for 2 weeks. My item is already delivered.
Here is the explanation:

I may have no option than to accept eBays new terms and conditions, as I am losing sales. But at the minute, I have no auctions for VNA calibration kits on eBay, as I don¡¯t like their new payment system.?

At least when payments were made via PayPal, you could confirm receipt of payment before shipping goods, we no longer have that.?

I have definitely lost business as a result of not accepting eBay¡¯s new payment system, but I think it is morally wrong.?

eBay are now getting interest-free loans on every transaction.?

Dave
--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom